“He’s Never Done It”
February 16th, 2023
New Bucs offensive coordinator Dave Canales.
Dirk Koetter played quarterback in college, so did Bucco Bruce Arians.
Byron Leftwich was an NFL quarterback and other former Bucs playcallers Greg Olson, Marcus Arroyo and Jon Gruden were college quarterbacks.
New Bucs offensive coordinator Dave Canales, however, has never played quarterback. So it’s interesting that the Bucs chose him as they appear eager to develop a young player at the position.
It’s rare in the NFL to have an offensive coordinator with no experience calling plays or experience playing quarterback. That doesn’t make Canales a bad hire, but certainly one that’s extra intriguing.
This has Joe expecting that Canales soon will hire a quarterbacks coach who played in the NFL.
In the coming days, Canales is sure to name a QB coach and fill position-coach vacancies at running back, tight end and receiver. Co-offensive line coaches Joe Gilbert and Harold Goodwin were retained by Todd Bowles.
Joe has been researching when Canales was under consideration for a promotion to QB coach in Seattle to work with well-established Russell Wilson. There were naysayers, including Seattle media guy and former NFL quarterback Brock Huard. He argued of Canales, “He’s never done it.” Former Seahawks Pro Bowl QB Jim Zorn also was under consideration at the time.
This all reminded Joe of when former Bucs commander Greg Schiano explained publicly that then-QB Josh Freeman didn’t need a former quarterback as a position coach or an offensive coordinator because Freeman already knew how to throw well.
No, Joe isn’t comparing Canales to Schiano, but Joe sure hopes Canales brings in a QB coach with a lot of experience.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:13 pm
You know what they say, “No risk-it, no biscuit!”
February 16th, 2023 at 2:14 pm
Thaddeus Lewis may be a candidate. He played QB in college, but doesn’t have experience coaching the position. Probably good to put him at receivers coach and hire the more experienced for QB coach.
Anyone have ideas that might have a Canales or Pete Carroll connection?
February 16th, 2023 at 2:17 pm
JOE: “It’s interesting that the Bucs chose him to presumably develop a young quarterback.”
Didn’t he develop Russell Wilson and Geno Smith at Seattle?
February 16th, 2023 at 2:21 pm
No. Russell Wilson had led the Seahawks to two Super Bowls by the time Canales took over as quarterbacks coach. You can certainly give Canales props for helping resurrect Geno Smith’s career.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:22 pm
So Canales will be the perfect excuse in 2024 as to why the Bucs have a losing season!… Got it!
February 16th, 2023 at 2:23 pm
Look on the bright side. At least we finally found somebody willing to take the job. Lol.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:25 pm
At least he’s not Leftwich, so there’s that.
He could be a failure as OC, but still better than the last guy.
It’s a low bar.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:29 pm
Wonder if Seattle’s former QB coach (Austin Davis) would get back into coaching? I always read how both Canales and Davis got promotions at the same time so the Seahawks wouldn’t lose them.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:33 pm
The negativity continues to astound me. I’ve suffered with this team from the beginning, and losing used to gut me. Then I grew up.
Whining and complaining may be some people’s way of enjoying the off-season, but for sane people, thinking about positive possibilities and being open minded makes the sport more enjoyable… I b!tched and complained during the season, and now I’m moving on. They got rid of Lefty, and they’ve hired a young guy with energy and experience coaching in a winning organization as a QB coach, WR coach, and passing game coordinator. And yet the b!tches gonna b!tch b!tch b!tch b!tch b!tch b!tch…
February 16th, 2023 at 2:34 pm
Leftwich was a failure? The man won a superbowl and had a great season following that. You can’t call that a failure unless of course you are living in an alternate universe.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:36 pm
He’s an interesting hire for sure. Could be an awesome OC, or flame out. Only time will tell.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:39 pm
They just hiring anybody because next season they will fire everybody!
February 16th, 2023 at 2:39 pm
Pete Carroll is a hell of a coach and Canales wouldn’t have been with his staff for so long if he was bad. We all saw what Wilson has done since he left Seattle. So while Canales might not have developed Wilson, he certainly helped keep him at a high level or even improve.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:45 pm
They can’t be serious. But they are. Bowzo does it again. A recoving Alkie with no experience. Perfect. This could be worse team ever. 0-17 beating John McKay record and far away worse than Lovie. Bottom of the barrel. I hope no one starts trying to put lipstick on this pig.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:46 pm
Lefty was here 4 years and still could not call plays or develop quarterbacks.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:48 pm
Pete Carroll already popped that virgin……he took a shot with Canales & it paid off…..that’s good enough for me.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:48 pm
Dang,
Does the Bucs Brass want Bowles to 100% fail or what??????
This reeks!!!!
February 16th, 2023 at 2:50 pm
@Sasquatch
The only former coworker of Canales that I can find w/o a job in the league as of today is Jeremy Bates, who unfortunatley has ties to Bowles stint in NY, BUT was also on Gruden staff from 2002-04 in Tampa. Remains to be seen if Bates will even be considered, but I’d be all for hearing Doug Baldwin announced as our WR coach as he was a route running machine when he played.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:51 pm
This is definitely avant-garde
Probability suggests it’s not going to work but what if it does? Let’s get behind him.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:52 pm
OK, so Canales did not technically “develop” Russell Wilson, but Pete Carroll certainly thought he was good enough to be Wilson’s quarterback coach, and Canales certainly turned Geno Smith around in one season (2022).
February 16th, 2023 at 2:54 pm
Dumbasses be dumbassing with the default negativity because, well, they’re Bucs “fans”.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:57 pm
With the salary cap budget Bucs have available to spend at QB position, perhaps a ground-n-pound offense is the only option. Evens and Godwin are excellent blockers, which is good because the OLine can’t. It’ll be boring af, lucky to win 4 games, but look at the bright side…there will be a big house-cleaning at season’s end. Maybe even hire a GM who can draft and develop talent.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:57 pm
This guy is unfit for the job.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:57 pm
Bunch of crybabies.! I feel bad for your wives, or husbands..the guy hasn’t even coached one game or put a staff together and you losers do nothing but cry!
February 16th, 2023 at 3:05 pm
@MJ: Leftwich is a failure. ALL the “success” was because of BA. When BA gave Leftwich the keys, he drove it immediately into a ditch.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:06 pm
This is so bad they will have to canvass local high schools for assistant coaches.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:06 pm
Dolphins head coach was a QB in college?
February 16th, 2023 at 3:09 pm
Micheal J – let’s see what BL does moving forward to prove you right or wrong. He’s gone, part of coaching. There is a new guy, let’s see what he does with most likely less talent and a number of spots.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:10 pm
So –Bowles now has ” His” guy ,, No more of those no risk it / no biscuit guys around to annoy him anymore .. ..lets see who he throws under the bus next january
February 16th, 2023 at 3:15 pm
everything in place for a total disaster.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:20 pm
So we’re supposed to jump up and down with excitement for landing a QB coach who’s never called a play in this league to now run an entire NFL offense?
Give me a break. Did he even get an interview with any other team before landing here?
February 16th, 2023 at 3:22 pm
Gruden played quarterback in college, and couldn’t find or develop a quarterback if it killed him … which it did kill him, or at least end his career with the Bucs.
Playing a specific position and coaching a specific position are two entirely different things. He proved he could coach quarterbacks with Russel Wilson and with Geno Smith as either QB coach or passing game coordinator.
You don’t hire assistant coaches because they’ve already done the same job at another NFL team, unless he was a failure with that team. Those who succeed in that position on another team either stay coaching at that position, or move up in the coaching ladder somewhere.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:24 pm
The Bucs have given me a NFL lobotomy
I have been a Bucs fan since strolling into the Ole Sombrero out of curiosity for the first preseason game.
I have been a longtime ST holder and seen 250+ games
I don’t go anymore other than on a rare occasion.
There is absolutely nothing to be encouraged by with what has happened in recent years.
They managed to catch Brady’s coattails and that was fun 2020 & 2021 , last year was the most bizarre chapter in the franchise history.
It’s pathetic… look up the definition
February 16th, 2023 at 3:25 pm
Would love to see Dave Canales take Austin Davis with him to Tampa. He is out of the NFL right now but he has been praised by the football brain he has by the likes of Brett Favre and Jon Gruden.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:31 pm
Tye^ hilarious brother..haha
February 16th, 2023 at 3:32 pm
Offensive coordinators who never played quarterback in college or the NFL
1. Eric Bieniemy, Kansas City Chiefs (former running back)
2. Pete Carmichael Jr. – New Orleans Saints
3. Brian Daboll, Buffalo Bills (former defensive back)
4. Nick Sirianni, Philadelphia Eagles(former wide receiver)
5. Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland Browns (former defensive back)
6. Greg Roman, (former offensive lineman)
7. Pat Shurmur, (former linebacker)
8. Arthur Smith, Atlanta Falcons (former offensive lineman)
9. Shane Waldron, Seattle Seahawks (former tight end)
10. Mike McDaniel, Miami Dolphins (former wide receiver)
11. Josh McDaniels, Raiders (former wide receiver)
12. Ken Zampese, Washington Commanders (former offensive lineman)
13. Joe Lombardi, (former tight end)
An there’s tons and tons more….
None more important that the “father of the modern passing game,” Sid Gillman
Sid Gillman played wide receiver in college at Ohio State University and professionally in the NFL for the Cleveland Rams and Detroit Lions.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:36 pm
Carson HS (CA) (2004–2005)
Offensive coordinator
El Camino College (2006–2008)
Special teams/tight ends coach
USC (2009)
Assistant strength coach
Seattle Seahawks (2010–2017)
Wide receivers coach
Seattle Seahawks (2018–2019)
Quarterbacks coach
Seattle Seahawks (2020–2021)
Passing game coordinator
Seattle Seahawks (2022)
Quarterbacks coach
February 16th, 2023 at 3:38 pm
So where does it say anything about running backs?
February 16th, 2023 at 3:38 pm
Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs (former Left Tackle)
February 16th, 2023 at 3:39 pm
Gotta love all the “optimists” calling out the naysayers
Facts are facts my friends and the facts are after multiple experienced OC’s passed on the job, we settled for a guy with “potential”
Adding him to a HC that has one winning record in 5 seasons of trying and the worst STC in the NLF means we are likely screwed in 2023 – not a fact, but a supported hypothesis based on the previous stated facts
Oh, 22 free agents and 50+ mil over the cap with one QB on the roster that has never started a regular season NFL game
So much to be optimistic about…..
February 16th, 2023 at 3:41 pm
We have a wealth of experience in the QB room with 84 yr old Tom Moore coming back. Some combo, 41 yr old first time O.C., 84 yr old seen it all, done it all working together. I hope the kid can keep up!
February 16th, 2023 at 3:46 pm
Pep Hamilton’s the OC candidate turns down Bucs’ request for interview
Why? Hamilton has a son who is a standout high school quarterback in Houston and had two years left on his deal with the Texans.
So…..
February 16th, 2023 at 3:46 pm
I’m going to give the guy a chance. Why wouldn’t we?
February 16th, 2023 at 3:47 pm
Caneles was OC for a California high school team in 2004, so at the very least he might have experience calling plays at the high school level.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:47 pm
I don’t want to hear Tom Moore’s name again, bless his heart.
This is 2023 and everyone got a good look at the stereotypical NFL QB and offense that the rules dictate, ring up the scoreboard!
February 16th, 2023 at 3:51 pm
Assholes gonna asshole.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:56 pm
The point is that we just don’t know. Unfortunately, some of us take his too seriously. For us, it is just a game, isn’t it?
February 16th, 2023 at 3:59 pm
Candies and sunny skies vs. dark clouds and misery. The reality is probably in between. Better to be comfortably numb and watch things unfold. We haven’t even had official confirmation that he is the OC. So chill.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:02 pm
B!tches be b!tching.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:06 pm
WR coach is probably:
http://www.buccaneers.com/team/coaches-roster/thaddeus-lewis
One of the few holdovers on the offensive coaching staff because they think very highly of his football acumen, and think he could be a future OC.
Someone threw out the name Doug Baldwin to coach WR. I don’t know if he’s into coaching, but he was a good one, and a smart guy in Seattle.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:09 pm
Sas mon
Gonna be a painful lesson for you to learn
February 16th, 2023 at 4:11 pm
Joe in Michigan Says:
February 16th, 2023 at 3:46 pm
Because people who love their negativity can’t see out of their cave.
Whiners be whining.
Haters be hating.
It’s what they do. Negativity is the air they breathe. The thought of having an open mind and seeing what happens never even occurs to them. They have to have an opinion, and they think if we don’t hire one of the popular names for OC, that the guy must suck. It’s stupidity. My guess is half of them beat their wives.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:11 pm
Let’s be open minded and give this guy a shot.
Biggest thing that scares me is this guy coming in and not be able to run HIS offense because Bowles will put the restraints on him like he did with Leftwich and the OC’s that he had with the Jets.
This guy is coming from a team that likes to run the ball and ground and pound so we will see.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:16 pm
Voice of Truth Says:
February 16th, 2023 at 3:39 pm
Calling out the naysayers doesn’t make me an optimist. It makes me capable of identifying boobs with overbearing opinions based on the delusion that they know more than they do and can see the future.
I’m not an optimist. I am open minded and curious, willing to give it a chance… some might call it sanity… whereas taking a negative interpretation by default is called being an asshole.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:19 pm
Assholes be assholing… they think they a the “voice of truth”… Funcking hilarious.
The voice of reason knows we can’t see the future. Intelligent fans don’t buy into the kneejerk complaining. Have some ph0uecking perspective, people. Jeezus, you people suck.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:23 pm
At least he was brave enough to take the job. I wish him the best, however, with Bowles as HC we’re all doomed. Tampa will be once again where careers go to die. Hopefully, the Bucs can get rid of all the cap hits and concentrate on 2024 and beyond.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:29 pm
I really don’t understand why alot of you are already nailing Canales coffin shut. And I’d like to point out some things here.
1. We’re 55mil over the cap with a HC on the hot seat. And alot of spots to fill.
2. Nobody knows if our offense is gonna suck yet or not til we see the product
on the field.
3. We don’t know who will be the QB next year. Trask could very well be a
franchise QB, and people already say he’s trash, when the plan was to sit
him a couple years while Brady and Gabbert(if Brady got hurt) chased the
SB. He never went on the field with the 1st or 2nd stringers.
4. Literally the worst case Scenario is the Bucs suck, and get Caleb Williams or
another talented QB in a QB heavy draft, and get a new coaching staff. With
ALOT mor cap spaceto work with.
5. If the worst case Scenario doesn’t happen, then something is working right?
And the extra cap space can help further improve.
So I say just sit back and see what happens. Even if we’re trash this year, we’ll be in position for a new coach and a talented QB in the draft next year.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:33 pm
SasMon
The voice of reality is all I am
Cap man cometh
Glazer’s own the team
Jason Lightweight has not addressed the state of the Bucs since the team slinked off the field in the Wildcard game
Todd Bowles is the head coach for a team without a quarterback and a roster full of holes
February 16th, 2023 at 4:35 pm
There must be a ton of new posters on this site that have only been with the Joe’s for the last three Brady years. So much pissy pantsing.
Most of us that were here through the lost decade and before lost all feeling in our grizzled thick skin.
Canales is an unknown and that excites me. I knew what Byron was before he ever stepped foot on that coaching staff and I knew I wouldn’t like it. I want to see what fresh eyes can do to maximize Mike Evans remaining good years. I want to see if he can figure out how to get Chris Godwin the ball without forcing him to take ultimate punishment after every catch. I want to see if he can actually scheme for a running game rather than slam bodies against a wall.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:36 pm
Find the YouTube and the Pat MacAffee show from last week when he interviewed the Tennessee QB recovering from knee surgery
Impressive interview, kids got his head screwed on right.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:37 pm
Mike Johnson Says:
February 16th, 2023 at 2:34 pm
Leftwich was a failure? The man won a superbowl and had a great season following that. You can’t call that a failure unless of course you are living in an alternate universe.
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Sure we can, a lot of people include some Tampa sports media doubted Leftwich was running the offense. BA retired, the whole thing crashed and burned. That’s pretty good proof. Now we’ll never really know since Brady retired and Leftwich probably won’t ever find work again. If new OC guy and new retread QB manage to put a worse offense on the field this fall than we’ll know it was all Bowles and maybe we’ll cut Leftwich some slack. The good news for him even if he never finds work again is he’s not the worst OC the bucs have ever had. He probably doesn’t even make the top 5.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:38 pm
The truth is, we don’t know. I remember all those cheerleaders and lollypops when Lovie was hired. The greatness of the Dungy era was just around the corner. Right? Well…didn’t work out that way. I suggest we just wait and hope for the best.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:42 pm
Bucfan94 Says: “Trask could very well be a franchise QB, and people already say he’s trash, when the plan was to sit him a couple years while Brady and Gabbert (if Brady got hurt) chased the SB. He never went on the field with the 1st or 2nd stringers.”
100% accurate. Well stated. Brady came to Tampa to win Super Bowls, not to develop a future quarterback, and he wanted a veteran as his backup. And you’re right, Trask not once took the field with the 1st team or even the 2nd team, even in two pre-seasons, even in the meaningless regular season final game against the Falcons – that was shockingly gross mismanagement and poor coaching.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:42 pm
Bowles destroyed the Jets.
We severely nose dived when he replaced Arians.
No more GOAT.
Lightweight OC.
Yeah this should work out great.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:45 pm
Outside of the box, young offensive minds are the fad in the league and some of them enjoy success. This guy already has a lot on his plate. Definitely not on anyone’s radar. I respect him for taking his shot, because his stock rises with any success. Really hoping he doesnt bring a ball control offense to Tampa.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:48 pm
They are in to win! Bring on 2023!
February 16th, 2023 at 5:04 pm
Clueless Todd strikes Again! Ever call plays at any level? No? You’re hired! Lol! Here comes another decade of irrelevance!
February 16th, 2023 at 5:12 pm
He was probably as good as anyone else they interviewed. He doesn’t have any experience calling plays could be a good thing our opponent want know what to expect. I am sure Pete will give him a few plays and hes a smart guy he will come up with the rest.
February 16th, 2023 at 5:15 pm
considering what a dumpster fir he is walking into…..surprised he took the job.
good enough for me considering he is coming from Seattle. but we all know this year will be ugly…..
shooting for the number one pick is the best we can hope for with toilet bowl as coach.
February 16th, 2023 at 5:17 pm
If Lefty could have been more balanced with his play calling I think things would have been different. I didn’t expect us to land an experienced play caller due to our situation and while I was leaning towards Pitcher from the bengals I’m curious to see this guy’s philosophy and hopefully resurrect the running game
February 16th, 2023 at 5:24 pm
Playing the position matters little as far as I’m concerned.
Frankly I’d rather even have a nerd calling plays than a jock. We want smarts, not the ability to throw a nice pass.
February 16th, 2023 at 5:28 pm
Sometimes thats the price you pay for living on paradise he is from California you know.
February 16th, 2023 at 5:36 pm
@Joe Swanson: how “creative” does he need to be working under “run, run, pass, punt” Bowles?
February 16th, 2023 at 5:45 pm
All anyone needs to know is that he speaks proper English. At least we will have press conferences where we can understand and relate to what he is saying.
That alone is a HUGE improvement over the last guy. PERHAPS we wont have those “communication” issues anymore???
Bottom line, he is an improvement DAY 1. At least for me, I can go back to ENJOYING hearing what the coaches have to say between games. I hated not being able to do that these past few years. In fact, I have been skipping all of the coach interviews and articles as much as possible.
Again, thats a HUGE improvement for me and enjoying my past time activities.
February 16th, 2023 at 5:52 pm
Slow your roll buckaroo’s
He may be the OC but he damn sure will not have free reign!
He will be compromised by second guessing HC… that is a recipe for career disaster!
I hope I am wrong but can’t imagine Bowles giving a inexperienced coach calling plays in the NFL.
February 16th, 2023 at 5:58 pm
SB~LV
To your point, he will be our next HC should he overcome TB.
His job is not to run the team, his job is to do what he is asked to do and to be great at it.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:02 pm
Send a shipment of Rose Color Glasses quick. ROFL
February 16th, 2023 at 6:05 pm
All seriousness this is the perfect hire. If he turns into a brilliant, upcoming coach maybe our next head coach next year will retain him in some capacity. Let’s face it, no one was interested in the position. I hope we don’t turn into the Browns or Jets of the last decade as an organization. Interested in seeing who our head coach is next year and the direction the organization goes.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:12 pm
What in the Jeff Jagodinski is going on here?
February 16th, 2023 at 6:13 pm
Young guy with an awful lot to prove as a play caller. hopefully hes youngry…
February 16th, 2023 at 6:14 pm
Are the Buccaneers going to get a defensive coordinator?
February 16th, 2023 at 6:15 pm
Canales is a start! Seeing is believing!!
February 16th, 2023 at 6:19 pm
Ha Ha Ha, don’t they already have joint(dual) DCs and Bowles calling the D plays!! Unless that has changed.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:20 pm
As long as 1st down isn’t run up the gut for 1 yd, I’ll be happy. If he incorporates more play action to give whoever is our QB a bit of extra time, that would be a bonus. Why Lefty ignored all the analytics re play action I’ll never know.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:22 pm
I don’t care if someone played QB or not if they’re there to call plays, but I do prefer my OC to have actually called games before.
That’s a huge leap of faith to just take someone who has been stuck as a position coach for 13-years, then give them an OC job when they’ve never done it at any level.
At the same time, Leftwich allegedly had playcalling experience, and he was literally as bad as you could be at it. See the Seattle game when he runs the same trick play only a few plays apart. That’s what an idiot 12-year old does when they’re playing Madden, not what an NFL coach is supposed to do.
So if the idea is this guy just has to be better than Leftwich, then that’s as low of a bar as there is at the NFL level.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:31 pm
Rod Munch
WELL, you cant completely dismiss Leftnut was/is a Super Bowl winning OC. So the bar is not as low as your unfortunate perspective.
This coming from someone who so couldnt stand Leftnut that I literally had to put my fandom on hold, just cause I am a nice guy. I refuse to dog Leftnut until I literally couldnt hold my breath anymore.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:33 pm
Bottom line is we don’t know if he’s going to be good or not so why don’t you geniuses at least see a preseason game before you start burying the dude. This website is 99% trolls. Most of y’all are pathetic angry losers.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:46 pm
CrackWise Says:
WELL, you cant completely dismiss Leftnut was/is a Super Bowl winning OC. So the bar is not as low as your unfortunate perspective.
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I disagree, I believe you can completely dismiss it, the exact same way people completely dismiss Eric Bieniemy as being anything more than Reid’s lacky. Now I have a lot more faith in Bieniemy to actually do something with the Redskins, but everyone just thinks Bieniemy was doing what Reid told him to do. Also with Leftwich, he’s just an a-hole. I still can’t get past the fact that he turned down the Jags job because he actually thinks he’s the best there is and that every team would be knocking down his door to hire him. I mean how clueless can you possibly be?
But we saw what Leftwich is without Arians, in 2018 and 2022. The absolute worst offense in football, and one of the worst offenses in football. That’s what everyone else sees as well, which is why Leftwich is unemployed.
And that idiot thought every team would be begging him to take their head coaching job this offseason. God, what a dumb f—.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:52 pm
I’m pretty confident that Bowles and Licht had a long conversation with Carroll.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:55 pm
We all started to REALLY see the demise of Byron Leftwich this year… and then in press conference after press conference…. people bringing up VERY legitimate questions… things we were ALL wondering about…. his response would be some extremely snarky, “this isn’t Fantasy Football everybody”, as though we were all children who did not know better.
With Dave Canales…. let’s give him a chance. Let’s see what he’s got. We talked to a WHOLE lot of people, and really liked what he brought to the table.
Russ…. the last time he was GOOD… was with this guy. And Geno Smith, who none of us EVER thought would be good…. was with this guy.
Let’s give him a chance.
February 16th, 2023 at 7:08 pm
Crazy how next year bucs will probably score more points and be a worse team …. only the bucs baby
February 16th, 2023 at 7:15 pm
assholes gonna asshole
February 16th, 2023 at 7:16 pm
HA-HA-HA … ‘Are the Buccaneers going to get a defensive coordinator?’
I wish they would, but I seriously doubt it at this point. Gut feel is that Bowles will be the DC yet again, with Rodgers & Foote as co-assistant-DCs. That can work as long as Bowles lets Canales have near-total control of the offense. And of course as long as Canales gets results.
February 16th, 2023 at 7:36 pm
DR
That was the plan when BA was sitting in the golf cart all day. Byron was a joke then and BA and Tom were able to adjust.
It could work.
NEED TO BLOCK ALL THESE FAKE B!TCHES hating on the Bucs(might have to shut down the page)like we didn’t win the division in Bowles first year and the Super Bowl was less than a week ago. No positive emotions for this monster truck bandwagon. No money is our largest problem.
LFG BUCS!!!
February 16th, 2023 at 7:53 pm
Guys are in here complaining, Canales just poached a colleague from Seattles staff in Brad Idzik(John Idzik worked for Tampa) to be our WR coaches. We’ll have a RB Coach by lunch on Saturday, Dinner time tomorrow at the earliest lol
February 16th, 2023 at 8:02 pm
Cobraboy Correct me if I am wrong is a 4-yard run + 4-yard run + a 3-yard pass, not a first down, and no need to punt? Do you and any of these other Prophets and Oracals on JBF Know the winning lotto numbers, the next biggest best stocks to buy, and the next big tech to invest in? If you do could you share them with us JBFers? The fact is none of us know what the 2023 Buccaneer’s record will be. How well our new OC will be at his next step in his profession, or how well our 2nd round pick from two seasons ago will be. Without actually letting them get after it in real NFL game action, not JBF posters’ personal beliefs of what they think will happen.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:04 pm
Looks like he picked the wrong team to stop drinking.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:08 pm
That’s actually hilarious ! How did Canoli become Russell Wilson’s QB coach. Seems absurd ! No experience playing the position , or coaching the position before and he coached up Wilson , lol !
February 16th, 2023 at 8:19 pm
I saw some idiot comment “I don’t want a ball control offense”…
Apparently this person doesn’t realize that ball control means controlling the clock and not turning it over. In order to do that, you have to get first downs. It also means you’re giving the opponent less opportunity to score.
What does ball control NOT mean? It doesn’t mean running into the middle of the line pointlessly hoping to gain yardage when the opponent knows exactly what you’re going to call. It doesn’t mean not passing… And if the OC knows anything about analytics they know that getting chunk plays is an easier way to sustain drives than pounding and pounding stubbornly.
So, when an OC wants to play ball control I say HELL YES. Control the ball, control the clock, score touchdowns, and make the defense’s job easier. Gimme 25 ppg, win time of possession, minimize turnovers, and play good defense. That is a winning formula. In the end though, you gotta have play designs that work, play calling that keeps defenses off balance, and players who can execute.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:22 pm
Hopefully Canales is smarter than Bowels and goes to Arians to mentor him and help him develop into a winning coach… Toilet Todd just wanted to do it his way which was the losers way!
February 16th, 2023 at 8:38 pm
Dooley
You are on fire
February 16th, 2023 at 8:39 pm
Sasquatch. You gave out advice you need to take. To paraphrase. Quit b!itching because it is not going to happen. You are not going to change it
February 16th, 2023 at 9:39 pm
DBS Says:
February 16th, 2023 at 8:39 pm
Well, at least I’m trying to contribute something instead of sh!tting on everything the team is doing.
February 17th, 2023 at 12:24 am
So, A$$quatch, with all her disdain for reality, which she discredits as “negativity,” will be the one special case in the Den of Cremation cheering Kyle Trashk’s lone TD pass to some scrub no one’s heard of in a 41-7 loss.
Attagirl A$$quatch! There’s plenty of room for you on Keith Armweak’s special teams’ bus after the game.
My team lose or lose! Yay!
February 17th, 2023 at 4:59 am
Oh come on SasCrotch, your complaining about people complaining is exactly what your complaining about. Give them a chance…
February 17th, 2023 at 7:57 am
We are fortunate that we had two Super bowl winning seasons. Many fans have not had the experience. Looking like it may be another 15 to 20 years before we have another one. I am content with a competetive team that is at least entertaining. Doubt they will be as long as bowels is running the show!
February 17th, 2023 at 10:54 am
I would rather go into a season not expecting to be very good and wind up exceeding our expectations,than like last year expecting to be good and have a total team collapse.
February 17th, 2023 at 7:41 pm
Linemen make some of the better head coaches.
QB not so much. Unless they were backup type players.
February 17th, 2023 at 7:56 pm
Defense Rules
My concern is, Todd has too much on his plate. He need to decide if he wants to be a head coach or a DC. A head coach is a full time job, so is a coordinator. His record with the jets is not inspiring. TB needs to have a like minded DC so he can learn to be an effective HC. Maybe after enough success, TB can return to calling defensive plays.