What’s Going On With Logan Hall?
December 9th, 2022
Drop in playing time explained.
The Bucs’ first pick in the 2022 draft, defensive lineman Logan Hall, has seen his snap counts drop drastically in recent weeks.
Have the Bucs soured on him that much? No, said Bucs defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers. The reason Hall’s snap counts have dropped is a confluence of two things, Rodgers said.
“Actually, it’s just the way it’s kind of played out in the games and Akiem [Hicks] is really doing a good job for us in the last couple of weeks,” Rodgers said. “Going back to Cleveland we were having a lot of physical type games and that’s just the way it played it out.
“But we’re very happy with Logan – the last couple of weeks – he had a sack a week ago and [is] really doing a great job, it’s just a good problem for us to have.”
If Hall really did see his snap counts drop because Akiem Hicks got healthy, that’s smart. When Hicks is in there, he eats up bodies well and allows Devin White and Lavonte David to fly.
It is no coincidence that White stepped up his game right about the same time Hicks returned.
December 9th, 2022 at 8:32 am
he’s going to Disneyworld!!!
December 9th, 2022 at 8:34 am
I’m not worried about Hall right now. If next year at this time this is still an issue, then I’ll worry. Like what’s happening with Joe creampuff Shoyinka. Dude is soft. And if you’re a lineman, you won’t play long that way.
December 9th, 2022 at 8:46 am
Hicks impact is very similar to Suh….both are a steady force that free up the LBs. Suh was much more reliable and for what was being asked of him, very effective/consistent. Hicks has a bit more burst but he routinely gets hurt and when he’s out, the dynamics of the defense changes.
December 9th, 2022 at 8:48 am
Well if someone is good they play right ?
We passed on a lot of dudes that are playing well right now to draft him
December 9th, 2022 at 8:53 am
Is Hall a better D end than Three Name ( JTS) ….. I truly think the answer is yes and actually I believe it s yes on all three downs. JTS is a gifted shorts guy but he just doesn’t like football , he likes Status …. What are those clown sleggings on his lil soft arms !!! Jeez Dude !! …….. again , is this defense better with Neal replacing White on passing situations and Hall replacing JTS ………. Again Bowles just isn’t a strong decision maker ………. Who is the Defensive Coordinator of the Bucs ?? Answer that and You know that Bowles isn’t head coaching material !!
December 9th, 2022 at 8:57 am
JTS and Logan both deserved to be benched.
Next year I’ll be watching both of these duds closely.
As of today they’re nothing to write home about.
Very dissapointing in a year of many dissapointments.
December 9th, 2022 at 9:07 am
Both Hall and JTS lack functional strength still – they both need to add bulk and have a stronger base
They both get physically manhandled unless they win with quickness
Nelson and Nassib – Both appear smaller than JTS and play far more physical, he should emulate them
Hall doesn’t have the frame for 300lbs – don’t think he was a good pick at all for this D style unless he is really a WG replacement – but Will was a 4th rounder we developed and grew over time
December 9th, 2022 at 9:11 am
Same with jts last year
December 9th, 2022 at 9:18 am
ClwJB, agreed. Outside of Anthony Nelson who is mediocre, we have no pass rushers that are able to push his lineman into the QB with a bullrush if he cannot get off the blocks. Vita Vea was destructive against the Rams, but has gone fully invisible since. JTS is a paper flake flying around the air that rarely manages to beat his man with speed over the edge. I don’t even know what Logan Hall does. I totally forgot that we drafted him. Outside of the Packers game, I don’t remember one play made by him. Even the back up back up OLB that wears 59 flashes every now and then.
December 9th, 2022 at 9:20 am
By NFL standards he’s weak. He’ll need three years to blossom into a man. The potential is there. He just needs muscle mass.
December 9th, 2022 at 9:30 am
I think this team is causing me to have a permanent palm print across my face.
December 9th, 2022 at 9:31 am
Yeah true, granted ClwJB usually god coaches adapt their defense or offense to players they have.
I’m not even going to say the next part because it’s just a broken record at this point.
December 9th, 2022 at 9:38 am
Did he say Hall is not playing because the games are more physical?
Sheesh
December 9th, 2022 at 9:50 am
He’s a rookie so he can get better but he is a complete non factor at this point. I don’t take Pff as gospel but he actually has a lower grade than Luke Goedeke at this point. Ouch.
December 9th, 2022 at 9:50 am
It is a very rare creature, the D-lineman who is really productive in his first year and forever more.
A lot more need a year or two to age into the position, in the NFL. Hopefully that is what is necessary for Hall and JTS. Anthony Nelson needed three years, but now he does well.
Give the boys a year or two to become men and maybe we will see something.
Oh. Hall’s hair is about him still having a boy’s outlook.
December 9th, 2022 at 10:09 am
Johnny
I was saying on another Bucs blog how I noticed Genard Avery (59) has been noticeable in the very small amount of snaps he has received.
December 9th, 2022 at 10:10 am
Jane Shoyinka is a bust,,,, this guy is trending in that direction… bad draft choices.
December 9th, 2022 at 10:18 am
And Nassib can definitely be matched up with Anthony Nelson.
December 9th, 2022 at 10:21 am
I haven’t even thought of Logan Hall since like week 3. Completely forgot about him 😬
December 9th, 2022 at 11:17 am
More of Licht and his BS drafting thinking he is the smartest dude in the building just like the guy in Tennessee that drafts and trades like a drunk frat boy
December 9th, 2022 at 11:35 am
Nothing dumber than bashing a rookie because of lack of playing time. People expect too much of rookies a lot of times. When they play big in year one, that’s great, but D-line is a place where rookies don’t often excel in year one.
December 9th, 2022 at 11:48 am
The rookie is fine. The lower snap count is clearly because Hicks is back in the lineup.
December 9th, 2022 at 11:59 am
He needs to bulk up that’s pretty much it
December 9th, 2022 at 12:14 pm
At least Hall has a little dawg in him. JTS on the other hand is soooooft.
December 9th, 2022 at 12:34 pm
The Bucs having the makings of a boy band with Hall, Barely Tryan and McCollum. Sweet hairpieces and oh so soft.
December 9th, 2022 at 12:41 pm
He wasn’t doing squat when Hicks was out either. Probably another Adrian Clayborn.
December 9th, 2022 at 12:45 pm
2.5 sacks and 9 tackles he probably couldn’t hold Clayborns jockstrap
December 9th, 2022 at 1:18 pm
He’ll be fine dude just need the off-season to bulk up
December 9th, 2022 at 1:21 pm
I pushed for us to draft him….Come on Hall!
I see him more as a Gholston role when Big Will retires. Just let him backup Big Will and learn from him.
December 9th, 2022 at 1:31 pm
I remember when people were down on Gholsten..He took a few years and the right scheme. Hes grandpa buc right now!! From what I understand dline is tough for a rookie.
December 9th, 2022 at 1:35 pm
this is the guy who put down Jensen during a ” no contact ” practice .. I guess thats when he’s at his best ……
December 9th, 2022 at 2:15 pm
Hate to say it but JTS and Logan Hall look like busts
December 9th, 2022 at 2:58 pm
He is a rookie Dt that’s what’s going on with him.
December 9th, 2022 at 5:37 pm
Hall has looked good. I think he is going to be excellent down the road. Seeing how little he played last week made me wonder if he could be used in the rotation for edge rusher on obvious passing downs. He’s got the ability.
December 9th, 2022 at 8:03 pm
I have actually seen Hall make a bunch of pretty dam good plays and he also stays off the ground and def has a lil dawg in him . I also don’t see him as getting over powered that often but I think he can def get allot stronger but I think he a pretty decent player .
December 9th, 2022 at 9:06 pm
Not much should be expected from rookies. Or even yr 2s. The problem is, this Bucs regime not only pushes their early investments into starting roles, but makes questionable draft decisions on developmentals (who need 2-3 yrs, or aren’t that good to begin with) and furthermore touts these developmentals as instant impact.
It’s only after they are exposed that their snaps are reduced, towards finally getting benched as they deserve, and then back to where they belong. The practice field, the weight room, the film room. Or they’re left out there to help lose games, while being praised to the skies. Hall, Goedeke, Otton, Hainsey, JTS, Rachaad, McCollum….
Going full blown youth and experimentation is what you do in rebuilding mode, with a 2 yr time frame with no expectations. It’s not what you do if the goal is all-in with a 45 yr old QB on the way out.
December 10th, 2022 at 12:15 am
#ThatRookieWallGotHimGood
December 10th, 2022 at 8:25 am
I’m more worried about JTS, that dude disappears at times. It makes you wonder, you can see his athleticism but maybe he just doesn’t have the heart, doesn’t have that dawg mentality.