Tom Brady And Team Glazer
December 12th, 2022
“Ed, you know we can reason with Tom.”
Joe has been shocked seeing a bunch of references in the comments the past two days of folks pining for Kyle Trask, a guy the Bucs think so highly of that the lone game he has ever dressed for since being drafted in the 2021 second round was because the Bucs were forced to by NFL gameday rules.
Trust Joe, you don’t want that. Not even if you wear orange and blue underwear and wake up in the morning next to your Tim Tebow life-sized doll with your autographed photo of Aaron Hernandez on the wall. You don’t want that.
So in the next six or eight weeks, a cool puzzle will be trying to determine what team Tom Brady plays for in 2023, if he plays at all.
In a double-team effort by Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero of NFL Network, they reported a big factor for Brady is how close he is to Team Glazer and the Bucs organization.
Citing multiple sources, Rapoport and Pelissero say a Brady return to the Bucs is very much on the table.
… Brady has great affection for the organization and the Glazer family ownership group, whose franchise he instantly returned to glory with a Super Bowl LV win to conclude his first season with Tampa.
His friendship with Team Glazer brings to mind the old saying that it’s good to have friends in high places.
Joe has to believe what he has heard over the weekend and what Joe has already typed about, that a condition for Brady to return is the removal of failing Bucs offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich.
Base on his awful performance, Leftwich should have already been jettisoned weeks ago. Bringing him back would be an unmitigated outrage to Bucs fans.
For Bucs fans who have blown out their ACLs stomping on the floor hollering about the offensive line, consider Ryan Jensen will be back next year — unless the team trades him. If that happens and Brady bolts, the Bucs may as well grease their loins for a tank job and start Trask.
You know, #CollaspeForCaleb.
Here is the problem if the Bucs want to tank for a quarterback. Bucs coach Todd Bowles and Leftwich are a combined 0-3 developing quarterbacks drafted in the second round or higher (Sam Darnold, Christian Hackenberg and Josh Rosen). Why would Joe expect that record to go to 1-3 outside of the law of averages?
We got a great episode of 'The Blitz' cookin' where Keepin' it a Buc has returned. Though, Byron Leftwich made me and @Deacon_Schiele a bit speechless this week.
We define our favorite 'Byronisms' — here is just a snippet from the segment. #GoBucs pic.twitter.com/nZYvfxBkix
— Evan Closky (@ECloskyWTSP) December 10, 2022
December 12th, 2022 at 7:16 pm
Because Jason Licht is pretty good at drafting, and your QB coach is the one largely tasked with developing a QB. Shots fired at Clyde?
December 12th, 2022 at 7:19 pm
I think Jensen signed a 3 year deal because Brady is coming back. (Hopefully with a new coaching staff.) If you were Jensen, would you sign a 3 year deal in the big money years of your career if you didn’t have some assurances from your star QB? Would you risk playing for a rebuilding team? I wouldn’t. I’d sign one year deals if I didn’t know what my QB was doing.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:21 pm
It’s easy to criticize a coach and say to fire him, but it’s better to say who you should replace him with
December 12th, 2022 at 7:21 pm
Fire leftturd now..we know now that Bruce was actually calling the shots with the red pen..what a shame that leftturd has ruined Evans as well.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:23 pm
I think you are wrong about Trask Joe.
Purdy is better than Trask you think?
That said, I am not pining for Trask.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:24 pm
@Jack Clark
Right now I have more faith in YOU than I do Byron Leftwich so what is the difference who comes in?
December 12th, 2022 at 7:25 pm
The last time the Bucs tanked for a qb, it turned into a 5 year horror story…
Bucs don’t develop qbs…
Not sure the options of qb vets but sure don’t need a rookie!
December 12th, 2022 at 7:26 pm
These coaches aren’t gona survive any more than the last game of this season. You can already see it in bowles face. Dead men walking. Glazers won’t do it in season unfortunately
December 12th, 2022 at 7:28 pm
Keep Licht and hire Todd Monken. it’s his time.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:31 pm
Well that’s another uplifting story 🧩
December 12th, 2022 at 7:33 pm
I’m pining for Trask!! I know solid qb play when I see it.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:34 pm
Plus, Brady’s isn’t making a lot of throws he used to make. It remains to be seen whether its because of his arm or his discomfort behind the line
December 12th, 2022 at 7:35 pm
Qbs with a lot less credentials than Trask have kick the Bucs behinds.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:35 pm
The glazer’s are gonna go after Payton or Jim Harbaugh. Bowles pissed away a great opportunity because of his stubbornness to make changes. I understand he wants to be loyal like Bruce but he simply doesn’t have the time nor the resume that Bruce has. The defense is ok but showed no heart yesterday and that’s on the head coach who calls the defensive plays as well. It’s been a great run though.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:38 pm
Trade our 2nd to san fran for Purdy….use our first on LT and move DS to LG.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:38 pm
We’re lucky to have Brady and we put with him with Todd bowles lol. What a joke.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:43 pm
#6: We do what we do.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:47 pm
Umm yall are crazy if you want kyle freaking trask over brady or gabber either. Trask will be ten times worse. He will be tossing picks left and rigjt and with this oline, just running around in circles taking sacks. Believe me, if you think they look bad now, the backups will take the breath right out our lungs. Right now brady is giving us cpr and reviving us when we need it. Id take an injured 45 yr old brady anyday over these guys. If this team was serious about winning, bowles and leftwich would be canned by now. Plus arians is really the one who gave bowles the job. If licht or the glazers chose the coach this year on their own, it would be diff.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:50 pm
Good luck seeing Jensen again. Like I said before. To much never said about that knee injury. Everyone else you always get the full story. This one we never have. I would not be surprised to see an injury settlement or something before it is over.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:56 pm
How could anybody want to watch this again, seriously? I don’t want to see Brady with a different coaching staff either. It’s done. The run is over. They’ve destroyed the salary cap the last two years to make runs and let Brady play with his buddies and bucket list guys.
Sell the scrap, play cheap and young for a couple of years, and then see what there is to build on.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:58 pm
Wishful thinking Joe. Brady holds the cards this time. The ownership may gladly bump off the staff, but this roster isn’t as strong as we’ve been lead to believe. I don’t see how they make the team appreciably better. Dean is almost assuredly gone, and the defense will probably take a major step backwards. The defensive line is another issue. If a Superbowl ready roster is what Brady wants, it ain’t here anymore. The window closed last year. We just didn’t realize it. Nope it’s fox, SF (if they don’t win it all) or possibly the raiders, maybe Tennessee. I put the odds of a Brady return to Tampa at around 20 %
December 12th, 2022 at 7:58 pm
…and no good coach or GM is going to want this mess. We’ll have a draft pick in the teens and no cash to play with.
December 12th, 2022 at 7:59 pm
I swear I still don’t know. The way Brady (who I still have tons of faith in) hugs and smiles with Leftw. makes me feel it is all Bowles. The way Leftw. talks, so unintelligibly and unintelligently I just know it is him. I am confused. Brady isn’t paid to be the OC and call plays and develop schemes, for football-god’s sake. Bowles has said some pretty stupid things, as well. I hope the Glazers can figure this out, as they are the best owners we have had.
December 12th, 2022 at 8:06 pm
Well can we agree that we have the worst talent at offensive line the entire nfl ?
Courtesy of Jason Licht
December 12th, 2022 at 8:06 pm
At best, Bowles will develop a dink and dunk quarterback, which defeats to purpose of even drafting a talented prospect. He seems to want to play Dungy ball minus the Dungy. Not a good fit for a team stacked on offense. He doesnt even have any reference in what to do even if he identifies that Lefty is an issue. If they are really serious in salvaging this season, they relieve Leftwich of his duties and find a work around to get BA calling the offense for the rest of this season.
December 12th, 2022 at 8:07 pm
Unless both Todd and Byron are gone next year, I’m going to have zero hope for the 2023 season. Perkins, Williamson, Bennett, and more have all had horrible seasons, but they had horrible talent as well. I’ve been watching football for a long time and I’ve never seen a team underachieve as badly as this one. From all that I’ve read, Todd is a good dude, but I have plently of friends to drink beer with. I want a competent head coach who gets the most out of the talent that he has and not some wannabe who drags the team down with his ineptitude. Barring a freaking miraculous turnaround, Todd has got to go man.
December 12th, 2022 at 8:08 pm
We have to play the short game due to the fact that we have THE worst line talent in the nfl
If you can’t run or give your qb time….
It’s
Over
December 12th, 2022 at 8:17 pm
So much crap being thrown around on this site. I hate listening to losers!!! Anyone who knows Brady and what he is about knows Brady IS not retiring after this year. No he will not go anywhere else either. That is not who he is!! This season IS NOT OVER!!!! The Bucs will make the playoffs. They will go to the super bowl! That is right I said it. See you in February!!!!
December 12th, 2022 at 8:22 pm
Tim Tebow, out of retirement, would be a more promising Gator QB than Kyle Trask. And I’m a Gator.
December 12th, 2022 at 8:28 pm
Brady has the most pass attempts of any QB in the league at 45 years old with 579 attempts with 4 games left. That’s ridiculous. Second is Herbert. Both those teams have awful running games. The bucs have to magically find a way and run the football.
December 12th, 2022 at 8:38 pm
Trask had sucked before college. He sucked in college before the gift of NFL caliber receivers against scrubs. And even then he’d stare them down to attract double and triple coverage, his guys would bail him out. He threw 3 pick sixes against Georgia in his “signature win” – Georgia’s problem was the guys caught worse than me after a case of Big Storm.
He sucks now.
He will suck as an NFL QB.
And when he goes on to a successful career as a reals estate magnate or tycoon, he will have sucked at QB.
December 12th, 2022 at 8:39 pm
Sean Payton as next year’s coach with Brady at QB, I’ll take it!
December 12th, 2022 at 8:39 pm
I never watched Trask at Florida, is he that bad? Joe mentioned 2 awful quarterbacks that no one could develop and a 3rd that is still up in the air so that point makes no sense. I think if they got a competent OC that is sure that Bowles wouldn’t stifle them creatively then they will be fine.
December 12th, 2022 at 8:44 pm
Joe, why are you always hating on Trask?
December 12th, 2022 at 8:48 pm
: the problem if the Bucs want to tank for a quarterback. Bucs coach Todd Bowles and Leftwich are a combined 0-3 developing quarterbacks drafted in the second round or higher”
That’s why you get rid of both of them.
December 12th, 2022 at 8:48 pm
Joe
Why all of the hate for Trask?
I’m an FSU guy but I watched Trask in college and thought he was very good. And if he can help the Bucs then great.
Plus, the Bucs don’t just need a new offensive coordinator they need a new offensive playbook as this offensive play system sucks.
The run blocking schemes and fits are just so totally basic and there are just way too many pass routes where the receivers just run straight downfield and stop and turn around.
Way too many times it looks like the defense already knows what the play is
December 12th, 2022 at 9:04 pm
I’m all for Brady without Byron……I could even stomach Bowles…..but something definitely has to change……
Chances are Byron is gone no matter what else happens…..Bye, Bye Byron!!!
December 12th, 2022 at 9:14 pm
We are totally screwed
December 12th, 2022 at 9:23 pm
This team has too many problems.
Poor talent level.(Jason Licht) Bloated ineffective coaching staff. Salary cap issues.
And a 46 year old QB.
December 12th, 2022 at 9:25 pm
I never really listened to him, he sounds like such an idiot.
December 12th, 2022 at 9:39 pm
No hate for Trask. He simply sucks, that’s fact not hate.
December 12th, 2022 at 9:41 pm
I’m beginning to think that this Bucs’ fanbase (I use the term loosely) is more dissatisfied being in 1st place than it ever was being in last place. I can still remember the good old days of talking up the draft … in October … and disregarding all the losses as they piled up since they were ‘expected’. Hope sprang eternal … always for the next year, until it arrived.
December 12th, 2022 at 9:42 pm
Hey Joe maybe a lot of us want to see Trask just to see what we have in him. We already know that Gabbert sucks and we already know Tommy is on his way out the door. So why not see what is behind door number 3. Especially if we are out of playoff contention. Which will most likely be the case by time we play Carolina or Atlanta.
December 12th, 2022 at 9:43 pm
And BTW Joe, none of us has even the vaguest idea of how well Kyle Trask will do IF and when he ever gets a chance to start, here or elsewhere. Comments like ‘Bucs may as well grease their loins for a tank job and start Trask’ seem rather jaded and petty.
December 12th, 2022 at 9:48 pm
I feel like its deeper than just coaching. What was deal with brady having to ride evans?
December 12th, 2022 at 9:55 pm
The plot thickens. Brady didn’t want BA out he wanted Leftnut which went up BA’s arse sideways. It wasn’t TB12 saying I’m out if BA is back it was BA saying I’m out if TB12 is back because of Leftnut. Crazy shat going on at One Bucs Place. What is it with this team and the drama?
December 12th, 2022 at 10:02 pm
Ok, I’ll play. Brady is not going to SF. They have Trey Lance, Jimmy G, and after two weeks, perhaps the second coming in Purdy. Brady has maybe one year left. He’s not moving away from his family. He plays here or retires.
Assuming Jensen comes back, and Wirfs is healthy, the line will return to top tier, even with D. Smith. At worst, draft a LT and coach him up.
Godwin and Evans are still a top five tandem. Gage will be healthy. White is a budding star. Fournette is signed for two more years. The two TE’s will be better.
Here’s where you will say I’ve jumped the tracks: Bowles agrees to return as DC. His career as a HC is over, and both he and Arians must know it. See Leslie Frazier. JTS is heading toward bust status, but we still have a Pro Bowl Safety in Winfield. Ryan and Neal return with Carlton Davis, White, Vea, Hicks, Nassib, Nelson and probably David for at least one more year. Barrett hopefully returns healthy. We are gonna lose Dean and probably Edwards but we still have SMB, and a couple of young corners who’ve played a lot.
Bring in a new, young Offensive minded HC, and if Bowles leaves, bring in Wade Phillips.
I know, I know…
December 12th, 2022 at 10:03 pm
Glazers to sort it out. They have practice.
December 12th, 2022 at 10:39 pm
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I appreciate the effort but that’s a S T R E T C H.
We have one actual food young player on D, and he can’t stay on the field. LaVonte, Ryan and Neal are a lot closer to the end of their career than the beginning. Vea plays 50% of the snaps on a good day, JTS doesn’t belong in the league. Hicks is JR Sweezy, part Deux. Don’t even get me started on the shoulder pad wrangler. The corners are sub par too. Add to that, zero depth behind all that subpar talent. That’s just the D.
No HC is going to take a demotion in the same organization. Unicorn offensive geniuses, if there were one, couldn’t be expected to turn around this absolute mess.
December 12th, 2022 at 10:42 pm
Brady learned a new offense the year Bucs won the SB. Bring in Todd Monken or Frank Reich and let the new coach focus on revamping the defense.
December 12th, 2022 at 11:09 pm
Brady only comes back if 49, titans, raiders, saints,patriots or even the jets refuses to hire him.
December 13th, 2022 at 12:19 am
So, after looking into Sean Payton, he is still under contract with New Orleans, a franchise in desperate need of draft picks to rebuild its roster. For the Saints to even seriously entertain allowing another team to hire Payton, it will likely cost a first-round pick. Paying $20-plus million per season and sacrificing a first-round pick is a hefty price…and I doubt the Saints will deal with us.
So…even though I prefer Payton…
• Hire Ken Dorsey as Head Coach
• Hire Jim Caldwell as Offensive Coordinator
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December 13th, 2022 at 12:22 am
Some of you are waaaaay off on player evaluations, lol.
December 13th, 2022 at 3:07 am
Can’t trade picks for a coach anymore I don’t believe.
December 13th, 2022 at 3:17 am
Mike C Says:
December 13th, 2022 at 3:07 am
Can’t trade picks for a coach anymore I don’t believe.
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Pretty sure that is not correct, unless I missed something huge. A quick search doesn’t show any articles saying the rules have changed. I think you’re mistaken on that.
December 13th, 2022 at 7:12 am
Agree Joe BUT the Bowels and Leftwich plan would be to jettison them both after they got us that first overall pick. It’s like hiring Josh McClown to be your starter….it’s so you secure the first overall pick
December 13th, 2022 at 7:40 am
Three Blind Mice
December 13th, 2022 at 8:27 am
Trask was a wasted 2nd rd pk will never be a starting qb in nfl unless he plays for lovie smith
December 13th, 2022 at 9:28 am
Agree Jack. You’re just btching if you don’t have a solution.
December 13th, 2022 at 11:06 am
Not going to get Payton with him under contract with Saints. Harbaugh would be excellent
December 13th, 2022 at 11:24 am
Todd Bowles’ current head coaching record:
6 seasons, 3 teams
32 wins
48 losses
0 playoff appearances
That is who Arians dumped on the Bucs. They should seriously think about revoking Arians ring of honor placement, just over this.
December 13th, 2022 at 2:47 pm
You are all way off with the coaching retreads. Bucs need to get a younger head coach.
John Harbaugh is one of the few older coaches that has adapted to his personel. Todd Bowles at 59 coaches like he is 79. In the past 5 years the teams that made a run at younger coaches have all been more successful than Bowles:
Sean McVay Rams- 36 years old
Kevin O’Connell Vikings- 37 years old
Mike McDaniel Dolphins- 39 years old
Arthur Smith Falcons- 40 years old
Nick Siriani Eagles- 41 years old
Robert Saleh Jets 43 years old
Kyle Shanahan- 43 years old
Mike Vrabel Titans- 48 years old
I’d take any of these guys over Bowles and frankly I believe you have to go younger to get the energy and the understanding of the modern game in the NFL. The Glazers have to get some brilliant and energetic young coach to run the program.
I’m old myself and I know that these younger guys are more on the ball with the current generation of players than Bowles would ever be.
December 13th, 2022 at 6:19 pm
Jack Clark Says:
“It’s easy to criticize a coach and say to fire him, but it’s better to say who you should replace him with.”
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Todd Monken.
December 13th, 2022 at 6:35 pm
Goatfarmer Says:
“Tim Tebow, out of retirement, would be a more promising Gator QB than Kyle Trask. And I’m a Gator.”
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I am also a Gator fan, and I’m pretty sure that you are eating too much fruit cake.