Todd Bowles Talks “Bloodbath”
December 2nd, 2022
Bucs fans can sort of throw out all the analysis of the critical upcoming Monday night game against the slimy Saints at The Licht House.
Joe will put it simply. If the Bucs want the “W” more, if they’re willing to fight for every blade of grass in every moment, then the talent edge Tampa Bay has on the Saints should be enough for victory.
But it will be a dogfight because the rosters don’t like each other. It’s a nasty rivalry, one that featured a mini-brawl in Week 2 as the Bucs snapped the Saints’ regular-season stranglehold.
Joe heard references to the nasty rivalry from Bucs coaches this week and that was extra clear when head coach Todd Bowles told the Buccaneers Radio Network that he expects “a bloodbath” on Monday.
Joe wonders if the Bucs are up for a bloodbath? Their performance in Cleveland didn’t give Joe confidence. So Joe hopes Bucs coaches are up for a bloodbath.
One could say playing scared is a poor plan for a bloodbath, and keeping noted bullies Akiem Hicks and Vita Vea on the bench in key moments is also bad form for a brutally physical matchup.
The Bucs are favored to win Monday and should be against a dreadful Saints team. But the Bucs still have to play a brand of ball they haven’t showed consistently if they’re going to come out on top.
December 2nd, 2022 at 12:29 pm
when you can only score 17 points a game…every game is a dog fight.
December 2nd, 2022 at 12:29 pm
Brian Flores or Eric Bienemy.
December 2nd, 2022 at 12:36 pm
There’s been 11 contests so far, and 6 of those have already been “bloodbaths.” Why should Mon nite be any different?
GO BUCS!!!
December 2nd, 2022 at 12:37 pm
In a blood bath, I wouldn’t want coward and morons on my side calling the shots.
December 2nd, 2022 at 12:40 pm
Just hope Brady can get in synch with those 3 (or is it 4?) all-pro wide receivers in this game. Why not?
December 2nd, 2022 at 12:41 pm
Casual Observer – Brady leads the NFC in passing.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:06 pm
I prefer conservative defense and aggressive offense, exact opposite of Todd Bowles.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:12 pm
In a blood bath you better be the aggressor or you’ll get your teeth kicked in.
Todd Blowes playing scared is not the answer here.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:15 pm
Bucs 6-Stanks 9 ??
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:15 pm
This thread will be a bloodbath lol
shut your hol tb
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:17 pm
Brady will start throwing picks this week in an effort to make up for incompetence in coaching
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:17 pm
Your Mom, My Mom wants the same thing. So OT last Sunday when Winfield & Wirfs went down wasn’t bloody enough? Let’s all cross our fingers and hope Bowles plays for at least a tie.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:20 pm
It would only be a bloodbath if the stadium sells bottled beer so the fans can throw them on the field. Saints 2 Bucs 0. Why should I expect anything else?
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:23 pm
2-0. It’s all good no matter who wins in Bowles mind. Bowles has Brady take a knee down 2 on the 10 yard line to end the game.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:24 pm
ACTUAL QUESTION (not rhetorical) – You people on this forum who call coaches morons, cowards etc. – how old are you?
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:30 pm
Enough with the talent discussion on this team. They seem over the hill so go and prove it. Also throw everything out with this game. It’s a division game against a hated rival with a division on the line. The last time we beat the saints at home was 2017 (also the last time it was actually competitive). Their heart is on the line this Monday. I’m petrified with wirfs out. This team has had zero killer instinct.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:37 pm
i just hope our receivers and secondary don’t get knocked down. we’ll have to carry them off the field. It’s seems like this is the game plan. Punt returners and kickoff returners run straight ahead for 1-3 yards and the head for the sidelines. If we need 8 yards for a first down, stop the route at 7 yds. If the clock is about to run out, just stare straight ahead like you coach does. ALSO would someone with an i.q. higher than you’re age please tell Bowles he doesn’t get to keep unused timeouts like he’s trying to win a Subway sandwich
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:41 pm
Every word written by Joe’s staff should be writing for Bowles and Leftwich’s firing. What transpired up in Cleveland was beyond incompetent. Bowles single handedly gave that game away.
He’s been an absolute, unequivocal disaster! But that’s enough for good Ole Bowles. He has the gall after the game to get up on that podium and state ” We need to stop pissing away games”.
I would of fired him on the spot.
Mr Accountability my a$$.
He’s a disgrace.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:43 pm
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December 2nd, 2022 at 1:46 pm
torontobucfan; i’m 71. i’ve been watching the NFL since Lombardi, Hank Stram. Y.A. Tittle and you damn right i feel qualifed to say that Bowles is the poorest and stupidest coach i have EVER EVER seen. He needs to sit his worthless aese on the bench along with Leftwich and give the keys to Tommy Boy. 23 years, 10 SB appearences winning 7. yes that’s 70%. Tom brought us back and had a chance tho win the NFC champ last year. Now Toronto i’ll let you say what happened in that game. I’ll give you a hint. Todd Bowles
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:46 pm
NO has the 7th ranked pass D, and the 22nd run D. Just ahead of Cleveland. If they couldn’t run on the browns, I don’t see how they’ll be able to against the Saints. The defense is going to have to win this one. I’m talking multiple turnovers and a defensive score. I just can’t the bucs generating much offense. I don’t care about the talent gap. IMO these teams are roughly the same, with an obvious advantage at QB. Go Bucs??
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:55 pm
Are you sure Bowles didn’t didn’t say Bubblebath? That is more like how the Bucs play against NO.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:55 pm
Shawn King, the elite quarterback in that 99 season where we lost the championship game….. Our offense was so bad, I remember them saying if we could just average 17 points, we would have won nearly every game that season
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:56 pm
Two words: MAX PROTECT. We need to give Tom time to hit those late developing routes. Brady wasn’t actually bad against the Saints last game. There were a ton of drops, especially by Miller. We’ll have Godwin and Julio as targets this game. I believe there were seven drops that game.
December 2nd, 2022 at 1:57 pm
Same game last year we were shut out so you think if they are legitimate coaches they have to go back and look at the film last year. I still haven’t lost that comatose feeling after going to that Cleveland game last weekend but who knows. Go Bucs.
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:01 pm
Toronto, great city. Have you listened to Bowles and BL speak? It doesn’t exactly inspire faith in their intelligence. IDK their SAT scores, or their IQ. But, I know the game, and I know what I’ve seen. You can have a great football mind, without being a Rhodes scholar. Brady has said Gronk and Moss were the two smartest football players he ever played with. Nobody has nominated them for mensa membership. I don’t think either Bowles or BL are particularly smart football minds, or smart in general. I’m no Alfred Einstein, but that appears to be the general consensus around here.
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:02 pm
Saints D line is going to feast on this offense.
My prediction: lots of runs for no gain or loss of yardage on 1st down, followed by predictable screen pass behind the LOS on 2nd down for a 1 yard gain, followed by 3rd down incompletions and sacks. Which is Byron 3-and-out Leftwich’s game plan every week.
Brady prob gets sacked 2 – 3 times, Leftwich gives up on the run game bc he only tries it on every 1st down. Bucs lose 23 – 13, season is officially, officially over.
Hope im wrong.
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:04 pm
@Redeemer – I think Bowles is incredibly intelligence. I just don’t think he motivates people. No fire, no passion, and as his game management has demonstrated- no balls to go for the kill. That deflates a team pretty quickly.
Don’t get me started on Leftwich… clueless and stubborn as can be.
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:04 pm
*intelligent
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:05 pm
Off topic MacJones just called out offensive play calling… Brady should do the same
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:09 pm
alton d green – I’m 66 and have been watching the NFL almost as long as you.
My wife and I drove down to the Cleveland game. Loved our seats – 2nd row upper bowl around the 30 yard line!
I was about as flabbergasted as I’ve ever been at a sports event when Bowles didn’t call a time out near the end of regulation time. In my opinion Brady is pretty close to being the most clutch (yes I do believe “clutch” is a real thing) player in sports history. I can’t imagine a coach not giving him the chance to get into FG position. He’s done in routinely in multiple Super Bowls!
Unless Brady doesn’t get an offer from a major contender (my guess is Tennessee) my guess is that decision is the “beginning of the end” of his time with the Bucs.
I’m also not sure how Arians was able to effectively name Bowles the new head coach.
Back to my original question – I don’t think the non-timeout makes Bowles an idiot or coward etc. I does make hime a bad head coach!
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:18 pm
Unfortunately, the Saints defense will only need to rush four to get to Brady. Both sides of our Oline will need to step up or get stepped on. Our defense will contain the Saints offense and our offense will contain itself.
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:19 pm
Todd Bowles job could be on the line. They won’t fire him during the season, but he has to beat our division foes, and make the playoffs to keep his job I would think. A loss Monday would be another nail in the coffin for Bowles coaching future.
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:34 pm
Hope Evans is smart enough not to let Saints bait him into a fight and then get kicked out of the game.
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:35 pm
That was a bad@SS offensive line that we had the last couple of years including Gronk. IMO that is the biggest difference now
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:39 pm
The Saints are always a problem for us, because they can effectively rush Brady with only 4 people.
This leaves plenty of defenders back in coverage, so when Brady is under pressure, he has few options.
Buffalo just massacred the Patriots like this, only rushing 4 and left the Patriots Quarterback with very few options.
The Elite Teams in the NFL play this way, and it is hard to play against, especially if we let the Saints get up on us. I am very concerned with Wirfs out, because surely the Saints will be bringing the heat.
LOL, we can bring the heat too, but we have to blitz to do it, and that leaves our secondary exposed way too often.
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:40 pm
the bloodbath should be in Licht’s office when he fires Bowleszo & Lefty….
December 2nd, 2022 at 3:06 pm
@Chris – 100%
If you can generate a pass rush with only 4 guys, you’re going to win a lot of games.
We could barely do that even when we still had Shaq. Without him? No way.
Gonna be a long Monday night I fear.
December 2nd, 2022 at 3:07 pm
@Toronto,
Regarding Todd Bowles:
bad head coach + bad results + fan disappointment + fan frustration = Idiot
@Bucsfan13,
I was thinking the exact same thing; MAX PROTECT. How about putting another tackle next to Wells and call him a TE. Keep a TE next to Smith on almost every play. That way there’s no tipping off a run or pass. Also, 1 back on every snap, no empty sets. That only leaves 4 receivers; 2 WR, 1 TE, and the running back. So what, only one receiver can catch the ball on any given play. In that formation the defense would be dumb to stack the box with the max protect look so that should open up the running game. Put a receiver in motion on every play to give Brady a read. Brady will have time to find the open receiver or dump off to the RB. Hey, that may be as dumb as anything BL runs but it can’t be any worse.
December 2nd, 2022 at 3:07 pm
Hey Toronto Bucs Fan, Did you watch last week’s game? Just wondering!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2022 at 3:10 pm
BOWLEZO head bags 2.99.
December 2nd, 2022 at 4:09 pm
Love the Brady trolls think they have 4 all pros . They have zero. Mike Evans has been borderline. Bad, CG coming back from injury. Jones/Gage might not be an NFL rosters in a few years. Mix in a bottom of the league running game /TE group ,and the incompetence of Byron Leftwich. Brady performing miracles once again
December 2nd, 2022 at 4:13 pm
Rod Munch … ‘Brady leads the NFC in passing’.
True statement, but now tell the rest of the story Rod instead of cherry-picking stats. Brady has also thrown more passes than anyone else … 471 passes in his 11 games. Since I’ve already witnessed your math skills Rod (it wasn’t pretty), I’ll do it for you: that’s 42.8 passes thrown per game average.
Next in line would be Justin Herbert with 463 passes in 11 games (42.1 passes per game), followed by Josh Allen (443 in 12 games … 36.9 per game) and Patrick Mahomes (442 in 11 games … 40.2 per game). All 3 of them BTW are in the AFC, just to give credence to your picked cherry.
Yet despite throwing the most passes, Brady ranks #4 in Total Passing Yardage with 3,051 yards. Reason? His Yards Gained Per Attempted Pass (Y/A) is only 6.5 this season, well below his lifetime average of 7.4 over 22 years (2nd lowest of his career in fact). And yes, that 6.5 Y/A ranks him #27 among QBs this season. His TD percentage is also at an all-time low of 3.0% this season, ranking him #29 among QBs, just below Daniel Jones, Joe Flacco & Cooper Rush.
Could get into the REASONS why his Y/A & TD% are so low this year (things like his OLine not protecting him well enough), but hey, that’d be a huge waste of time Rod so I won’t bother. I’ll just let you carry on calling coaches morons & idiots.
December 2nd, 2022 at 4:16 pm
Buccos Says:
December 2nd, 2022 at 2:35 pm
That was a bad@SS offensive line that we had the last couple of years including Gronk. IMO that is the biggest difference now
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And you’d be completely wrong. While the offensive line is a big downgrade right now, that isn’t losing games. What is losing games is an ultra-predictable OC who doesn’t make adjustments and calls the same plays, in the same situations, over and over and over again. Defenses just sit on the playcalling, know what is coming, and now there won’t be any adjustments.
December 2nd, 2022 at 5:11 pm
Rod, The line is ranked 30th and 29th respectively, in run block/pass block win rate. While I agree that BL is a big problem, I wouldn’t minimize the trouble on the O line. I also agree about the lack of adjustments. Against Cleveland, midway through the third quarter, the browns were flowing to every run action. They were ripe for a play pass on several occasions. Yet, no play action was called.
December 2nd, 2022 at 5:42 pm
Bathing in his own blood more than likely – what a horrible choice of words
We have been watching our offense bath in blood all year and he hasn’t done Jack squat about it
Hope he bleeds slow and painful, just like our season
December 2nd, 2022 at 5:58 pm
The only blood bath scene will be Bowles head on a plater when the Glazers grow a few and fire him ASAP.
December 2nd, 2022 at 6:46 pm
Byron leftwich never schemes the offense to match who we’re playing. He uses the same set of garbage plays every week and never adapts to game conditions. He has one template and that’s it.
He has no business running this offense. He’s not intelligent enough to adapt and change depending on your opponents strengths and weakness. It’s really as simple as that. Ariens conned the Bucs. Bowles and Leftwich are garbage and we are going to miss the playoffs. Prepare yourselves accordingly.
December 2nd, 2022 at 6:46 pm
I guess Todd read my post as I wrote about a bloodbath. I agree this will be a horrible game for the Bucs. Several will end up on IR, several more will be out for several games. The Bucs will be physically beaten and will lose. The Pirate Ship will sink. This pathetic excuse of a coaching staff will show their ineptitude once more.
December 2nd, 2022 at 10:59 pm
DR, those teams have running games.
December 3rd, 2022 at 5:58 am
I TOTALLY CONCUR WITH CANADIAN FAN ALTON D. GREEN..BOWLES COST US THE GAME WITH HIS DECISION MAKING..TIMEOUTS WERE NEVER CALLED AFTER BIG CHUNK PLAYS OR WHEN THE BROWNS HAD THE BALL AT 1:10 & LET IT GO DOWN TO WHAT WAS IT 32 SECONDS ?…GIVE TOM BRADY ALL CONTROL OF THE CLOCK WHEN THE GAME IS IN THE BALANCE..YOU FOOLS !..JUST 3 WEEKS PRIOR , YOU SAW WHAT HE DID TO OUR OTHER NEMESIS ( THE RAMS)..NO RISK IT, NO BISCUIT WHEN TOM’S ON THE FIELD ! COME ON ! SHOW SOME BRUCE ARIANS & BILL BELECHEK TYPE GUTS ! ! !
December 3rd, 2022 at 6:16 am
BY THE WAY…TOM BRADY WOULD MAKE A GREAT HEAD COACH WHEN HIS PLAYING DAYS ARE OVER IF WANTED THE POSITION..IF I WERE THE GLAZERS & JASON LIGHT, I’D THINK LONG & HARD ABOUT IT & EITHER FIRE BOWLES & HIRE TOM AS THE NEXT HEAD COACH OR AT LEAST EXTEND HIS QUARTERBACK CONTRACT BEFORE WE LET HIM GET AWAY FROM THE BUCCANEERS ORGANIZATION..HE HAS BEEN SPECTACULAR FOR THIS TEAM EVER SINCE THE DAY WE SIGNED HIM ! ! !