Kacy Rodgers Defends Logan Hall
December 23rd, 2022
Props from coach.
Earlier this week, Bucs coach Todd Bowles defended rookie Logan Hall, which seemed weird.
Hall, a second-round pick at defensive line, has been darn close to invisible the past few games. He’s had his snaps slashed from earlier in the season.
It almost appears that Hall hit the dreaded rookie wall.
Well, defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers spoke yesterday and he too defended Hall. Referring to Hall’s lack of production, Rodgers hinted that it’s hard to make a tackle if there isn’t a tackle to be made.
“This guy is going to be a really good player in this league,” Rodgers said. “He has a tremendous future, that’s the thing I’m harping on.
“I think he played 21 snaps the other night, but he had no production. But me as his position coach, also looking at everything, he had no opportunities to make plays either.”
Rodgers added that it’s just a matter of time before Hall regularly makes big plays.
“He has what we would term ‘big play ability,'” Rodgers said. “So, that’s the next step for him is to realize that we expect him to turn big plays and really, really be disruptive.
“But I’m telling you, the sky’s the limit for that guy.”
Joe understands it may be unfair to expect a bunch of production on the defensive line from a rookie. Generally, rookies don’t dominate their in their first NFL spin.
That stated, the Bucs really need Hall to contribute. Now. The Bucs are fighting for their playoff lives and with injuries to many on the defense, including Bucs sack king Shaq Barrett, the team desperately needs production from its top draft picks on defense from the past two drafts.
Production, as in beginning Sunday night.
December 23rd, 2022 at 8:07 am
Coach speak basically…can’t be truly honest as it might crush the players psyche and be an indictment on the actual position coach giving the quote.
December 23rd, 2022 at 8:10 am
He needs the offseason diet and weight lifting along with time for his man weight to arrive with age.
December 23rd, 2022 at 8:11 am
Said same thing of Tryon. Bottom line we need to get better and faster at the edges and linebacker. We are not physically able to deal with teams like the 49ers. Bc were soft. Mentally and physically.
December 23rd, 2022 at 8:12 am
Licht may have a future as a music manager…The boy band duet of Tryon Hall ( Pass )…soft rock pop to go with his affinity for guitar rock. Talk about versatile!
December 23rd, 2022 at 8:14 am
To early to tell what kind of pro he’ll become.
December 23rd, 2022 at 8:16 am
If he could make big plays he’d be making them
December 23rd, 2022 at 8:41 am
That fool cost Tampa a season when he cheap shot Jensen.Ugly mo fo
December 23rd, 2022 at 8:58 am
Winny … I think that some coaches us ‘coach speak’ in responding to media questions partly as a mechanism for getting the media off their backs (put an end to the ‘hunting expeditions’ like Jenna Laine was on recently with Gio) AND as a means of motivating some younger players especially.
I’m as frustrated as anyone with Hall’s lack of impact plays, but like Hodad said, it’s too early to tell what he’s really capable of. I know one thing he’s not capable of though, ‘cheap shotting Jensen’. Accidents do happen but to even think that a rookie would do something like that to his own teammate is bizarre.
December 23rd, 2022 at 9:07 am
Hall needs to replace Hicks next year
December 23rd, 2022 at 9:15 am
What’s to apologize for ? He’s a rookie. Very few rookies especially d lineman make an impact.
December 23rd, 2022 at 9:17 am
Coaches will cover for under-performing players every time….especially rookies that are high draft picks.
They don’t want to shake their confidence and will exhaust every opportunity before calling them out….
But, fans know….it’s quite obvious we aren’t getting much production out of Hall…..and JTS is not meeting expectations.
You’ve got to take the good with the bad……Rachaad White, Kade Otton, Ko Keiff & Jake Camarda are doing quite well.
I also believe that after more experience Zion will do well. Hopefully he can replace SMB because we won’t have the money to sigh both he and Dean.
December 23rd, 2022 at 9:23 am
DR…all fair points…especially that Jenna Lame ambush of Gio Bernard…having just lost to the team who drafted him…but enough about that. I share your frustration in general as this season…ripe for the picking/plucking…is slipping away. I’m one salty Scrooge this holiday season. Yet I’ll watch every play until the bitter end.
December 23rd, 2022 at 9:37 am
3 splash plays a game and allows 200 yards rushing each week is his future
Is way to small to be dominant at DT
December 23rd, 2022 at 9:38 am
I wonder if these coaches are all bored in the 4th quarter.
December 23rd, 2022 at 9:41 am
What did you expect Rodgers to say, he’s a bust. It was a wasted pick.
December 23rd, 2022 at 9:42 am
Bucs have gotten little to no production out of the last 2 years top draft picks. Not good folks.
December 23rd, 2022 at 10:08 am
He’s a rookie. Most rookies don’t have immediate impact. Wirfs and Winfield are the exception to the rule. Also he’s a 2nd rd pick. Not Aiden Hutchinson here..
December 23rd, 2022 at 10:23 am
There are only a few freaky athletes that can produce on D-line as a rookie. The rest of them take a couple of years to age into the position.
Those that develop slowly seem to have more longevity than the freaks that are that fast or that big and can make a splash as a rookie.
This has always been a transition season, from Arians to Bowles, so we will have to wait and see, and not just on the D-line youngsters. This whole team will be switched around.
December 23rd, 2022 at 10:27 am
This was supposed to be an all in year for TB12’s Last Dance.
We didn’t need our 1st round pick to be a developmental player.
We needed our first round pick to make an impact and replace JPP’s and Suh’s production and leadership. Coach speak is that he had potential. We needed production.
Logan Hall is a bust.
The only impact Logan Hall has had on the Bucs is being a practice team superhero and being a part of injuring our Pro Bowl Center Ryan Jensen on the second day of training camp.
December 23rd, 2022 at 10:33 am
Logan Hall is a bust.
The Bucs needed Logan Hall to help replace Suh’s and JPP’s production on the front 4.
Anybody who says that he has is blowing smoke up your tail pipe.
The Bucs needed production from their 1st rounder for TB12’s Last Dance.
All we hear is potential, which is worthless on the playing field of today for a league that has the nickname of Not For Long.
The only significant impact that Logan Hall has had on the Bucs is that he was a practice player superhero that was a part of injuring the Bucs Pro Bowl Center Ryan Jensen on the second day of training camp.
December 23rd, 2022 at 10:34 am
Bust.
JTS bust.
Sure glad we didn’t hold onto JPP and Suh. This team obviously doesn’t need any players who have outstanding leadership qualities.
C’mon Diva White, talk some more, then allow the game tying touchdown pass on 4th down. Let’s hear it.
December 23rd, 2022 at 10:47 am
To season ticket holders this wasn’t billed by the Bucs organization as a transition year.
The Tampa Bay Bucs billed this season as a reload season where the Bucs would be making a Super Bowl run, stating that we you needed to buy two seasons worth of tickets to be season ticket holders because of that.
December 23rd, 2022 at 10:49 am
Joe neglects to point out that this sieve was the 33rd pick in the draft, not a bonafide second round pick. The Bucs did have the 27th overall before trading down for this “guy”. At least the team got Cade Otten with the Jags pick in the 4th round via this trade. Still a pseudo-first round pick should not be a bench warmer. Epic fail as the dude contributes nada.
December 23rd, 2022 at 11:05 am
Has anybody seen Aiden Hutchison ? He’s producing like a MF’er
December 23rd, 2022 at 11:15 am
People bashing rookies are boobs.
The end.
December 23rd, 2022 at 11:18 am
Winny … I’m like you; I’ll be watching to the bitter end too. This season’s been kinda like watching a multi-car wreck … in slow motion. Still, although much stayed the same, there were some major changes this year in terms of coaching & personnel. Even with 45-year-old Tom Brady as our QB, that was all bound to have a major impact, especially when all the injuries are factored in.
What I THINK I’m seeing is a transition in terms of team identity that hasn’t been very well thought out & isn’t being executed very well. Bucs morphed from a defensive identity under Raheem & Schiano to no real team identity under Lovie (we didn’t do anything well), to an offensive identity starting with Koetter then full-blown under BA.
I’m tending to think that the Glazers picking Bowles to be HC & DC is an attempt to become ‘more balanced’ in terms of team identity. As I look at teams like Buffalo (well-poised IMO for several years of success) I see a very ‘balanced’ team … good offense (currently #4) and very good defense (currently #2) … led by a very good defense-oriented coach (Sean McDermott). What’s making that work IMO is that he has a strong DC AND strong OC PLUS an excellent young QB in Josh Allen. Even they’ve had their ups-and-downs, but still 11-3 isn’t that shabby.
December 23rd, 2022 at 12:00 pm
Sorry but, if you were expecting the kid to make an immediate impact, that’s on you. It’s rare for DL rookies to make an impact.
That said, it would be an ideal time for him to explode on the scene. Him and JTS!
Lets go guys, we need you!
December 23rd, 2022 at 12:06 pm
Michael Strahan was an early second round pick too and had one whole sack in his rookie year. This kid has more than doubled that. I’m not saying he’ll be anywhere near as good as Strahan, just that it’s way too early to knock the dude.
Bowles and Leftwich are the exact opposite. There is more than enough damning evidence on these guys showing that they are not cut out for the jobs that were handed to them on a silver platter. I’m actually damn jealous of the lions. I don’t think that their head coach is any better than average at this point, but he at least has them prepared and playing hard. Seems like the huge excuse this year is “we have to communicate better”. That’s just another way of saying we aren’t prepared and don’t know what the F to do on a given play. This is easily our most underachieving team ever. I’m not trusting anything coming out of these coaches’s mouths unless it’s an apology for this putrid season.
December 23rd, 2022 at 12:16 pm
Hall shouldn’t be playing DT he should be playing the Richard Seymour DE role
December 23rd, 2022 at 12:43 pm
Its there a defensive lineman that has been developed by this coaching staff. The past 3 seasons. Via was 2018. Maybe this staff should go veteran if they cant evaluate or develop talent at his position.
December 23rd, 2022 at 12:54 pm
I know I’m getting off topic, but to see Jenna Laine say those things to Bernard was disgusting and she finally apologized? She grew up in a very privileged background in St Pete, but I don’t know how she’s the voice of the Bucs or fans with her woke attitude, but she needs to go and let Joe or Ian report
December 23rd, 2022 at 12:58 pm
Todd Bowels believes in high-risk high-reward when it comes to defense because he likes blitzing so I don’t know why he doesn’t believe in high-risk high-reward when it comes to offense like Bruce Arians did
December 23rd, 2022 at 1:14 pm
Good point when has a lineman been developed since McCoy ?
December 23rd, 2022 at 1:18 pm
Vita Vea?
December 23rd, 2022 at 1:27 pm
Vea developes anymore he may never see his feet again.
December 23rd, 2022 at 1:34 pm
Hall will be fine. He’s a rookie learning to play in the NFL. It’s a big step up from Houston.
JTS came into the league raw and is still developing. He’s not a great player yet, but he’s got great tools and does make an impact, just not often enough, but I still think the arrow is pointed up for him.
Impatient fans who like to drop the bust label on any drafted player that doesn’t make an immediate impact are annoying AF.
December 23rd, 2022 at 1:37 pm
Ed Ingram was a stud lineman at LSU, and was NFL ready from day 1. The Bucs passed on him. Ingram is starting and playing at an extremely high level for the Minnesota Vikings as a rookie.
Marpet retired in February before the draft. Alex Cappa left as a free agent in March.
There were those of us who were begging the Bucs to resign Suh and draft a stud guard like Ingram for TB12. Those of us who know you have to replace a Pro Bowl guard like Marpet with line quality to ensure TB12’s success. The game is won in the trenches.
Wonder what would have been better for the Bucs during TB12’s Last Dance?
Suh and Ingram vs Hall and Goedeke?
December 23rd, 2022 at 2:31 pm
He’s a rookie. Give him a break. Although it would be nice if he played well on Saturday
December 23rd, 2022 at 2:36 pm
coaches are protesting toooo much..Only thing Hall contributed was to take out Jensen in a NO -contact practice–he took advantage of that opportunity !!. He wanting to impress everyone –now they defend him ???
December 23rd, 2022 at 3:07 pm
It’s almost to late now!! This defense and offense best step up and play to their capabilities or they will be watching the playoffs from home! Like I am!!
December 23rd, 2022 at 10:17 pm
Blame? I blame OneBucs for unrealistic expectations and hype pumped up for developmental draft reaches like JTS and Hall. Both of whom were raw, not NFL ready and in need of years of work. I blame them for not being smart or creative with free agency, and for failing to fill large roster holes left by genuine impact veterans.
December 24th, 2022 at 12:22 am
Maybe Kacy Rodgers isn’t a very good coach. Or maybe Bowels is telling him what to do and it sucks. Or maybe Hall just sucks. Or maybe not having a true leader in the front 7 hurts a young player. Or all of these things.
December 24th, 2022 at 11:40 am
What a waste! Like a previous post here, this was to be the BIG SEASON with TB and almost all the rest. The 33rd pick should be considered a significant contributor to THIS season- -not some day in the future. I know we have lots of OL injuries. More to fault our GM in NOT going out and bringing in more OL talent.
Say goodbye to our recent “salad days”, this team is headed for the rocks for years. Maybe Logan can man the lifeboat. (if there even is a lifeboat)