“Chunky” Bucs
November 10th, 2022
Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner has been a vocal critic of the Tampa Bay offense and Tom Brady this season.
Warner has carved up Brady on film (YouTube and NFL Network ) for not throwing to open receivers — in atypical Brady fashion — and he hasn’t liked the feel of the Bucs offense.
That hasn’t changed, Warner said in Germany today, where he’s been studying the Bucs to call the game on NFL Network.
Warner described the Bucs offense as “chunky,” as in not smooth. Joe is sure most Bucs fans would agree. But Warner holds out hope because Brady looked so comfortable in the pocket and the offense had rhythm late in the game against the Rams.
He believes if the Bucs can get back to playing comfortably on offense, then they have enough firepower to put up points near the level they have in past seasons.
The Bucs averaged 30 points last season and are at 18 this season, the largest dropoff in the NFL. It’s a mind-boggling number considering how much better the Tampa Bay kicking and punting game is this season.
November 10th, 2022 at 6:09 pm
Warner was my favorite QB before TB12 beat him in the Super Bowl. I am pretty annoyed with Warner’s analysis because as a QB he recognizes the issues with the interior line push, poor running game, poor separation, poor play calling, and LEAGUE LEADING pass drops. To not speak on those aspects when evaluating Brady is f#ckin’ irresponsible. Disappoints me in Warner honestly. I get Brady hasn’t looked his best, but if the team played well as a whole you would honestly probably wouldn’t even notice.
November 10th, 2022 at 6:17 pm
Went from 3 all-pro receivers and all-pro line to less-than average line and ONE all-pro receiver
November 10th, 2022 at 6:19 pm
Maybe they are just waiting to turn it on come playoffs? Naw they aren’t that smart. Go Bucs!
November 10th, 2022 at 6:25 pm
This is a crazy year, we have more than enough weapons to be better. Effort and horrible play calling is doing this team but Brady must love the way leftwich calls the game
November 10th, 2022 at 6:33 pm
Antoine Winfield Junior making the trip thank God
November 10th, 2022 at 6:57 pm
The offense is not designed to play at a snails pace. The reason the final drive was so successful last week is because the Bucs were forced to play up tempo. Result? They looked like their old(er) selves. May be they’ll try doing that sooner rather than later this week.
November 10th, 2022 at 7:13 pm
There are REASONS why the Bucs offense has performed well below expectations this year. Multiple REASONS. And they all factor into our offense putting up a lot fewer points than in the past 2 years.
Injuries are real. Mike Evans has been hurting for awhile now, and he probably hurts even worse after the Rams game. Chris Godwin still isn’t 100%; I don’t think he’s even close to being 100%. Russell Gage has been hurt since Training Camp, even though he plays (sporadically). Julio Jones has been hurt all year. I’d still contend though that the biggest injury loss our offense suffered was Ryan Jensen (this OLine desperately misses his leadership & attitude).
Personnel losses are real. Losing Gronk was a major blow to our offense, with losing Marpet coming in a close second. Losing Suh, JPP, McLendon & Whitehead has been detrimental to our defense too, especially since 2 key replacements, Akiem Hicks & Logan Ryan, have each missed the majority of the season thus far due to injuries.
Bucs’ salary CAP situation is real. It’s tied our hands to the point that we had to by-pass signing some guys who might’ve really helped us weather the storms. But instead, we’re having to play a lot of inexperienced youngsters & there’s a price to pay for that in terms of on-the-job training.
Brady’s family life situation is real too. Don’t care who you are, divorce has an impact. It’s also quite obvious that he’s skittish about his OLine protection (don’t blame him) and that’s impacting his performance.
Offensive coaching isn’t helping to mitigate those realities. When your best performances each game occur in the 15 or so scripted plays run at the start of each game, something’s bad wrong. And when the greatest QB of all time has to knit together a 35-second TD drive in the last minute of a critical game to pull a victory out of the hat, something’s also bad wrong. This coming game against the Seahawks though will show everyone what we’re made of … good or bad. Might be crazy, but I’ll put my money on the Bucs to pull out a victory & set the stage for a 2nd half of the season run for the gold.
November 10th, 2022 at 7:16 pm
After watching Kurt warners analysis on the ravens game it was clear to me Brady has trust issues with the offensive line by sliding and moving in the pocket when there is no pressure. Also Brady being hesitant on his reads missing open receivers. Has leftwich’s playcalling been predictable this year absolutely but he’s calling plays that has receivers open.
What are your thoughts Joe?
November 10th, 2022 at 7:36 pm
The Bucs will have more of a chance to make major changes during the bye week coming up after the game in Germany. If there’s any hope for their offense I would expect to see significant progress after that break.
If they can somehow figure out how to make opponents fear their running game again that would make a tremendous difference. And they need to sit Gage for some weeks and get him healthy. If he could play close to how he played during training camp he would make a tremendous difference.
All I want for Christmas are those things and also to bring back Ryan Jensen.
November 10th, 2022 at 7:42 pm
Warner is omitting that fact that Brady doesn’t have time to look for the second and third receiver . The offensive line is being thrown around like rag dolls .
November 10th, 2022 at 7:51 pm
Brady is def not throwing some open # 2 and three routes ……… have seen it numerous numerous times !! Biggest Problem is Fournette just really having lost his vision and running with now power or assertiveness at the line of scrimmage ……. Warrick Dunn was a far better power runner !!
November 10th, 2022 at 7:52 pm
Fantastic video critique by Kurt, QB confidential on youtube, Brady in week 8, very tentative, shows many missed throws and some good ones. Tommy needs to speak with Aqib and get some medical M to calm his nerves ! Then he can hang in the pocket and make some of these throws.
November 10th, 2022 at 7:53 pm
I think all of it comes back on Bowles. I think he told Brady and Lefty he wanted to run the ball and don’t take chances throwing the ball. If they do it the D will hold and they win. I think that’s why Brady has 1 pick and not going down the field. Arians would tell Brady to push it and a turnover here and there doesn’t matter. Bowles has neutered the offense because he is a defensive guru and thinks his D can win the game. It’s killed Brady’s confidence and the offense has suffered.
Joe’s, I’m still waiting on the story of Ira leveraging his friendship with Arians to get his thoughts on why everything has stalled and why his role with the Bucs hasn’t put him front and center on fixing the mess Bowles has made. I think this should effect Arians legacy if he does nothing to help fix the mess he left.
November 10th, 2022 at 7:53 pm
I had a chunky girlfriend once. I kinda liked it!
November 10th, 2022 at 7:54 pm
I disagree George. Watch Kurt Warner’s video, he calls it when Brady should be letting the ball rip, and seconds later he is getting sacked, or Brady gets the jitters in a pocket that is OK and starts to move rather than throwing the ball.
On all of Kurt’s video Tommy has the time to let it go, says Kurt.
November 10th, 2022 at 7:59 pm
Give Brady a few more seconds of security and he could check his alternate receivers…..and they would have more time for the play to develop as designed….ATTN: OFFENSIVE LINE….PAY ATTENTION……BTW….a better line could make a few holes so the ball carriers could do more than a few yrds per carry as well…..
November 10th, 2022 at 8:18 pm
Kurt Warner? So many of these Brady haters have axes to grind. It’s hard to take much of what they say seriously. @macajubav has it right on. His line can’t block the run, his recievers have been riddled with injuries and Todd Bowles and BL are his coaches. Still the goat (with a shoulder injury and a bad finger) is among the league leaders in passing. BTW Warner has never publicly denied the false and retracted story, that the Patriots taped their Superbowl walkthrough. Losing to a 14 point underdog, with essentially a rookie QB must burn. Dome quarterback
November 10th, 2022 at 9:18 pm
It was a great film breakdown, and the best thing is it’s free. A HOF QB breaking down the struggles of another active HOF QB and Warner pretty much outlined how Bradys’ play effects the play. Very rare to get a long form breakdown of that gives you (1) How a play is drawn up (2) the QBs choices based off how it’s taught to be executed against the coverage the QB sees (3) what happens on the play that determines the success/failure of the playcall.
Lots of fansplaining going on in the comments, some of you are even going out your way and donning capes to defend what are otherwise legitimate critiques of Brady’s performance and how it’s stymied the execution on certain plays. Warner repeated “un-Tom Brady like” at least five times and his assortment is pretty spot on. Plays where Brady has time, but because he’s tepid about absorbing a sack, he does what defenses aim to do and moves himself off mark. The endzone pass Brady high-pointed Evans instead of leading him left against the Ravens, accurate critique. It seems, some not all, hear an objective take on Brady’s performance and instead of seeing the light you dig in and rehash the same regurgitated rhetoric the and excuses as to why Brady isn’t performing at a higher level than he is. To me, some of the points Warner made explain Brady going 4-10 for around 20 in the entire 3rd quarter of the Rams game.
November 10th, 2022 at 9:23 pm
Trust but verify. Maybe if Leftwaste just lets Tom have the comm, it can work out. Pass pro seems to be not bad. Run blocking is awful, but listening to Goodwin, it’s due to an eggplant trying to evolve into an amoeba. Leftwaste.
November 10th, 2022 at 9:35 pm
@Dooley. Warner had some valid points in the Ravens game, but Brady looked much better against the Rams. He looked much more comfortable in the pocket. The receivers let him down that game. He could improve. There’s no doubt, but he’s not the problem. Constantly putting your QB in third and long situations isn’t sustainable. Defenses can just tee off. The Ravens and Packers both called out our play calling. They knew exactly what was coming. Brady has to be damn near perfect for this offense to have a damn chance. The receivers can’t separate consistently so he’s often asked to make tight window throws. This is offense can be fixed, and needs to start by getting too more manageable downs. There’s not a QB in the league that doesn’t have bad throws. It shouldn’t be the end of the world if our QB is off a game, but unfortunately it is because we have the worst run game historically in the history of the NFL. How about we start fixing that issue?
November 10th, 2022 at 9:44 pm
I expect there’s every chance Brady has gotten spooked/hit too many times this season, need more series’ like that last 38 seconds to set his mind right
November 10th, 2022 at 9:45 pm
Listen .. rough season start for many players. Biggest is Brady with his personal life. I mean the dude will live with it all his life football over keeping his family together. Other players learning (first season ) and others injury like c. Davis. Smb. Jensen. Stinnie. Godwin. J. Jones. Etc.
Imo since levertte took over. Brady looks smooth in the pocket, problably both trusting leverette over a rookie and his divorce is final. We will beat Seahawks.
November 10th, 2022 at 10:55 pm
Dooley
You are ignoring the fact that all the bad plays by the OL, all the poor/misread routes by the receivers, etc. creates a situation in which Brady plays nervous. You clearly have not followed Brady throughout his career. This is VERY Brady-like. Screw Warner. I can tell you that Brady sees ghosts when he doesn’t trust his line. Always has and always will. F Licht for this OL mess. Leftwich truly is a POOR excuse for a play caller, but the OL is the root of all Brady’s evil. Pressure up the middle regularly he doesn’t step into his throws and moves his feet too much. He has never had this bad of an interior line ever. So Im guessing that at 45 he is even more nervous. Break that down Warner… you quit after you got hammered in a playoff game and I was very strongly rooting for you. His breakdown lacks the depth to truly understand the situation. It simply points out poor plays. Im guessing he never had poor plays? Wrong… he sat on the bench in SL and NY because he was playing so poor for a few years BECAUSE HE WAS SEEING GHOSTS AFTER GETTING HIT TOO MUCH! I watched it all. Again… irresponsible to not properly put it in context Kurt
November 11th, 2022 at 12:29 am
Kurt Warner is saying to no one in particular but Tim Brady specifically — “YOU. Move the needle.”
His lame scared numbnut coiches can’t find their way out of a paper bag with scissors and a lit match.
November 11th, 2022 at 2:11 am
I bet Kurt Warner is getting a buncha hate-mail now too.
November 11th, 2022 at 5:11 am
OUR RUN GAME HASNT BEEN A STRENGHTH OF THIS TEAM SINCE 2015! Dirk Koetter and BRUCE ARIANS BOTH run Air Coryell style systems and we’ve statically been in the bottom 3rd of the league rankings in terms of rushing attempts and rushing yards since 2016. Again, excuses aren’t accepted for coaches, so stop making them for the 22 year get QB
November 11th, 2022 at 5:43 am
“He’s not passing to open receivers” Kurt? So he must be passing to the covered ones, right?
Then please enlighten us, Mr. QB who was beaten by Brady in the SB—HOW IS IT THAT HE’S PASSING TO ALL THESE “COVERED RECEIVERS” AND HAS ONLY ONE INTERCEPTION??
Kurt, if I were you I’d study up on THAT before you start spouting off during the broadcast Sunday. We WILL be watching……
November 11th, 2022 at 5:43 am
Hey I’ll tell you once upon a time I was a cracker Jack defensive lineman and inside linebacker I can tell you even though my leg was totally different the principles are the same Brady getting hit the way he has gotten hit he’s going to see ghosts clear into the playoffs if he makes it. I wish it wasn’t true because I’m a big Brady fan.
November 11th, 2022 at 8:35 am
It’s Christmas season for Brady haters and trolls he’s only scoring 18 points a game leaving out the fact that he’s thown for the second most yards in a league , lowest interception ratio, highest downfield throws, most tight window throws, with an atrocious off line historically bad running game, and absolute imbecile calling the plays and piss poor receiver play the fact that he doesn’t break this down depth with the issues is laughable. EVERY QB every week misses throws. This guy still thinks the Patriots filmed the walk-through 20 years ago!! More sour grapes
November 11th, 2022 at 9:21 am
Brady does not look comfortable with the guys in front of him. Plus too many guys that he’s throwing to just aren’t making plays. Even Evans has been inconsistent at times. Brady needs that one guy he can count on to always catch the ball when he throws it to him. So far no one has really stepped up to be that guy.
November 11th, 2022 at 12:06 pm
Chunky Bucs because the coiches blow chunks.