Brady 2023 Talk Blooms
November 4th, 2022
Yes, Joe saw the report of chatter from well-connected Sports Illustrated NFL insider Albert Breer regarding Tom Brady playing for the 49ers next season.
Joe figured the speculation (pure speculation) would fire up about midseason when it comes to pending free agent Brady’s future after this year’s Bucs campaign.
Breer thinks Brady would want to be close to his parents and play for a solid run-first offense and crafty playcaller like Kyle Shanahan.
Joe can’t buy into any of this chatter because Joe can’t pretend to know what Brady wants. For example, it sure looks like Brady’s ex-wife will be living in South Florida with his two young kids. If Brady wants to be the dad he claims he wants to be, then he won’t move 3,000 miles away from his children, his high schooler son in New York.
If Joe were to play the Brady 2023 game, and Joe is 199 times more concerned about Brady 2022 and the struggling Buccaneers, then Joe would assume Brady only would want to play where he knows the personnel (Tampa) and/or where the distance between him and his kids is reasonable (Miami or Tampa).
November 4th, 2022 at 2:11 pm
Joe, we need you to focus on this year still!
Unless we lose Sunday. Lol.
November 4th, 2022 at 2:12 pm
If only he were rich and had access to private jets……..
November 4th, 2022 at 2:23 pm
He needs to be around coaches that know their backsides from a hole in the ground. These two idiots aren’t the answer. If I was him I’d either retire or seek life elsewhere. Then you will see how truly awful a Bowels lead team can be.
November 4th, 2022 at 2:24 pm
Using Brady’s name for clicks. It never stops. They’re invested in Trey Lance. Brady’s not playing for SF next year. I think he’s done after this year. He doesn’t want to learn a new playbook.
November 4th, 2022 at 2:30 pm
Even though his stats don’t show it, his body appears in games to be slowing down a bit. I know he wants to go out on a winning note but has to beware of going out on a losing note.
November 4th, 2022 at 2:33 pm
So with Bosa new deal and McFarrery on the books? They didn’t trade all of those picks for their qb and rb to take Brady. At least I wouldn’t think.
November 4th, 2022 at 2:34 pm
Bert is a big Shanahan guy. I think the 49er thing was real, but Kyle couldn’t swallow his ego. It’s Miami or retirement IMO. Like Joe said, Brady wants to be close to his kids with G, and his other son is in NY I believe. A lot depends on Tua. If he gets them deep into the playoffs and plays well, it’ll be hard to dump him for one, two years of Brady at best. I have no doubt that Brady would make them an instant Superbowl contender. The roster is loaded from top to bottom. I’ve never been a believer in Tua. Internally, I don’t think Miami does either
November 4th, 2022 at 2:38 pm
I am ready for the new era in Tampa. I am not down on Brady, but ready for potential new franchise blood. This year’s draft looks very promising for that regardless of our final draft slot! Finish strong Brady and move on…
November 4th, 2022 at 2:39 pm
Brady could be in a lot of places next yr–except one -Tampa
November 4th, 2022 at 2:39 pm
“If Brady wants to be the dad he claims he wants to be …”
he wouldn’t have chosen a game over his wife and children.
November 4th, 2022 at 2:39 pm
We have @ $50M of dead cap space next season. $35M of that is Tom Brady’s…
If he wants to restructure things and push that $35M into later years it would probably be the only way we could stay competitive next season.
What are the alternatives? Matt Ryan, Blaine Gabbert, Baker Mayfield or Derrick Carr? Teddy Bridgewater or Jacoby Brissett? Ewwww…
No thanks. I will roll the dice with Tom Brady one more time before I would accept any of those guys as QB.
November 4th, 2022 at 2:51 pm
IF Brady plays in 2023, I think it’s here. I don’t think he wants to be going from team to team ala Fitzmagic or other journeymen QB’s.
Next season Bucs play the AFC South and the NFC North so the schedule would be less stressful.
November 4th, 2022 at 2:55 pm
Breer is clown saw him on beattle zolak.. Brady is keeping mansion being built. I love Brady but no one is going to want to sign. He knew he getting divorced so he thought he would come back and have another great season. I am not a offensive guru but Andy Reid runs plays. Giants coach does Pretty sure the entire league schemes up easy plays to get into rythm
Bucs offense is me and my friends played tackle. Mike Godwin the only receivers.and there is a guy 1 mississippi
November 4th, 2022 at 2:59 pm
Brady can afford to fly his parents here first class and even buy them a house down here.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:00 pm
Joe – flying in from toronto for the game this sunday. will you be there and where can i get some big storm beer near the airport/stadium?! any recommendations. not my first game here but excited either way.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:00 pm
If I were him, I love to get away from the clowns coaching the Bucs too.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:07 pm
Jason Licht and the Bucs did an incredible job of bring everyone back in 2021, and bringing back a lot of guys this year. But next year, with the cap, it’s going to be extremely difficult, I think, to keep the team that is left, more or less, restock it.
YES, the cap can be manipulated, but the Bucs, I believe, have nearly manipulated it to death – that’s how we got this far when no one thought Licht could keep the team together after 2020.
With that said, here’s how you might be able to do it…
Brady, $35m – but NOT on the roster. He’s just a cap hit. So you’d have to do some trickery to keep him, probably a vet minimum deal, with a bunch of void years or perhaps a very backloaded guaranteed contract. In any case, he’d cost you at least $36m.
Donovan Smith, $18m – you’d probably do a post-June 1st cut, that frees up $15m. However, you’ll then need a new tackle. With that said I’ve always thought they’d move Wirfs to left tackle at some point, so you’d need a right which is a little easier to find.
Lavonte David, $6m – he’s NOT under contract, that’s just a void year hit. If the Bucs resigned him, again, they could do some trickery with a backloaded deal, but he’d still cost at least $7m to keep.
Shaquil Barrett, $21.6m – the team would have to eat $6.6m in dead cap space, but can free up $15m with a post-June 1st cut.
Russell Gage, $12.1m – the team would have to eat $7m in dead cap space, but can free up $5m with a post-June 1st cut.
Ryan Succop, $4m – can regain $3.25m in cap space with a $750k cap hit, post-June 1st.
Leonard Fournette, $8.5m – the team would have to eat $3.5m in dead cap space, but can free up $5m with a post-June 1st cut.
Shaquille Mason, $9.5m – the team would have to eat $1m in dead cap space, but can free up $8.5m with a post-June 1st cut. This is living on the edge, but if Jensen is back, perhaps you move Hainsey to guard. Risky.
Cameron Brate, $5m – $1m cap hit, $4m free on a post-June 1st cut.
According to over the cap, the team is already $41m over, doing everything above would leave you… $14m under the cap.
So it could be done, but with a large roster turnover. But lets say JTS steps up and looks great, we get the LG situation handled so Hainsey can move to guard, you swap Wirfs to LT and draft a guy to start day one at RT – and you get a fast coverage LB to replace David high in the draft. Do all that, and you could, in theory, stay at a pretty high level I think.
In any case you keep the Brady window open as long as possible. Once he leaves, people aren’t even going to remember Tampa has a team and it’s another decade of losing. Don’t be so eager to get to that stage you dummies.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:11 pm
Bowels doesn’t look at stats, this explains the Satfford blitz in PO game. Brady would be perfect for 9ers this season, he’s done after this year and the dipshat twins soiled his legacy. Thanks BA for emptying your garbage on the Bucs.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:17 pm
Brady is most likely going to RETIRE after this season.
Why would he go to another team and start all over yet again with no guarantees of making it back to the Super Bowl?
His LEGACY now has a great ending with leaving the Pats for the Bucs and winning a Super Bowl with the Bucs. Leaving the Bucs for another team and not winning another ring doesn’t make his overall story as amazing (to most people).
As of now, Brady has won Super Bowls for ALL the franchises he has played for. That’s a pretty amazing fact. If he leaves for another team, the odds are very high that will no longer be true when he retires.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:20 pm
Oh, the other way the team might be able to sign Brady and David to new deals, and keep them ultra cheap, would be for them to have vet min deals, then with bonuses that are basically guaranteed. So, for example, Brady has to be on the opening day roster and he gets a $40m bonus – I believe, in that case, the entire bonus rolls over to the following year.
The issue is, I believe, is that you can’t do anything with void years. So that $35m cap hit by Brady, I don’t think you can move that or reduce it, so anything you do with him is on top of that. Keep in mind, it’s also why Brady is only a $12m cap hit this season. So any new deal is on top of that $35m, from what I understand. If anyone knows anything different on void years, let me know, as I haven’t seen any real good writeups on them.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:26 pm
Will be at the game, almost always am. It’s a work day for Joe.
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Have fun!
November 4th, 2022 at 3:30 pm
If the Bucs keep playing poorly, there will be CHAOS in Tampa. Certainly Bowles is gone. And if they don’t convince Arians to come back–and he probably won’t want to without his defensive coordinator–then there will be a total upheaval to a new coach’s new system. Brady won’t want to take any part in that, and I wouldn’t blame him.
Not to mention, if there IS an upheaval, why would you want to start to build a team around a 46-year-old QB?
I’m pretty confident no matter what happens, Brady will not be a Buc next year. Tua is playing very well in Miami, and the 49ers are heavily invested in Trey Lance. My gambling money says Brady will retire.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:33 pm
Who cares? If he stays, he stays. If he goes, he goes.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:40 pm
Brady is probably already rethinking his playing this year (why did I get divorced for this?). So he will actually retire at the end of this season.
Bowles really wants a run first team, so we will see either Gabbert or Trask as QB next season. Trask has more upside.
Free agent money will go for another O-line and a D-line guy. Draft will be predominantly defense with one O-lineman in the mid-late rounds.
If Brady wants pleasant dreams for the rest of his life in football, he will settle in and make the rest of this season work, otherwise this season will be a nightmare.
November 4th, 2022 at 3:42 pm
Hate to say it, but, it may be time to move on after this year. If he wants to play, so to SF. We will be in cap hell for a year or 2. Maybe get a cheap Baker Mayfield type to compete with Trask and if we havea top 10 pick in next years draft, draft a qb for the future. May be time to rip the bandaid off and pay the piper for the Superbowl. If we bite the bullet we may be able to rebuild and be a good team in 3 years???
November 4th, 2022 at 4:19 pm
SF ultimately traded 4 high picks to the Fins for the opportunity to draft Trey Lance, they aren’t shifting to Brady for a single year. That said, I’m the less than likely event he plays next year, there’s a few people here who re-signing solely at the Goat’s urging
November 4th, 2022 at 4:23 pm
I would not be surprised at all if the locker room is divided on Brady –he can audible anytime he wants -but the 3rd down & long stats ; 5 out of 50 or 10% conversions is more than horrible if when u have Brady @ qb……
November 4th, 2022 at 4:28 pm
He will go to SF and he’ll win another SB. Great D and fabulous coaching. Just what Brady needs.
November 4th, 2022 at 4:41 pm
Deebo Samuel, George Kittle, Brandon Aiyuk, Christian McCaffrey – that’s alot of offensive weapons to work with…
November 4th, 2022 at 4:49 pm
Regardless of Brady’s decision, we’ll be in the same mess if we still have Leftwich calling the shots.
November 4th, 2022 at 5:03 pm
I don’t really see it. I can’t imagine he’s want to start over with another team at this stage. I also can’t imagine he’d come back with the Bucs unless he was able to help pick the O-coordinator, or at least get veto power.
November 4th, 2022 at 5:13 pm
Brady will sign a 2 or 3 year contract with he Bucs in February.
November 4th, 2022 at 5:14 pm
If they weren’t interested in Brady 3 years ago I don’t think they would be interested him when he is 46 years old, unless the Bucs could somehow do a 180 and win the Super Bowl this year. Then they may have some interest but it’s doubtful.
November 4th, 2022 at 5:43 pm
I’m still sticking to my belief when we had guys this past offseason resign for multi-year deals they have belief Brady will be here for one more year. The divorce only makes me feel stronger about that. I’m still upset about the Trask pick last year when we are “all in”, could have a solid guard or corner with that pick. Can’t wait to be in town this weekend! Go Bucs.
November 4th, 2022 at 5:44 pm
Save money by letting Darden go and hire my grandmother for that position. Get rid of BL and let Brady call his own plays,there is some money. Or if he retires hire him for BL’,s position
November 4th, 2022 at 6:06 pm
Tom Brady would instantly be a better OC/HC than our current crew.
And he probably knows more people in the league than Bowles and will have little difficulty building a staff. And if anybody has more cred to become the defacto QB guru, I’d like to know who that is.
November 4th, 2022 at 6:21 pm
captivajim get back on your surf board. You can’t audible if you have the wrong personnel grouping. You also can’t audible if you have no running game, opposing DC’s do look at stats and know Brady can’t check down to a run. As far as the locker room there has been nothing written or spoken that supports your idiotic theory. The guy is and has been the ultimate teammate and we haven’t heard anything different from any players for 23 yrs with the exception of AB. Maybe that’s who you follow and where your information stems from. Nice.try HATER!! How about Thanks Tom for 2 great fun seasons. Dbag.
November 4th, 2022 at 6:54 pm
Tom kept the Miami real estate, with Gisele keeping the Coats Rica crib … So, Miami seems more likely than San Fran
November 4th, 2022 at 6:55 pm
Lol 🤣🤣 Brady is done after this year so get over it he’s looked like a 45 year old quarterback regardless how much you want to believe he’s played like he’s 25. It’s not BL fault that he throws the ball in the dirt I hope he retires next year so most of you can go away and start rooting for the teams you come from. If Brady does resign with the bucs I will not be watching this team next year or the NFL as a whole. Because it will be worse next year and all you will hear it’s some one else fault why he’s playing bad just like this year. So if he plays bad Sunday it will be BL fault but if he plays good then it’s all Brady lol 🤣🤣 hypocrites!!!
November 4th, 2022 at 6:58 pm
I see no way Brady comes back to Tampa, if he decides not to retire.
Brady is not playing Football to be playing Football, he wants Super Bowl Rings.
Now quick, ask yourself, will Tampa be a Super Bowl contender next year ?
Of course not!
So WHY does Brady come back to Tampa, if he does decide to play ?
Like people have already posted, it will be between San Francisco and Miami, if he does decide to play.
They say if you want to dance to the music, you must pay the Piper.
Well, we had our Dance, we won a Super Bowl, by selling our Soul, and now we must pay.
IMHO, it is time to rebuild, and start over. And that means really starting all over, with a new head coach and a new General Manager.
Before anyone gets all teary eyed about my call for Licht’s dismissal, let’s all remember he is responsible for unleashing Todd Bowles on us. Licht did not have to approve Arians suggestion of Bowles as head coach, but he did!
Some people around here seem to forget that Licht was in real trouble here in Tampa, until he got us Arians. Then he got another gift when the 49ers rejected Tom Brady.
I hope we move on from Licht, Bowles and company next year, for our rebuild.
November 4th, 2022 at 7:11 pm
Yup Oneilsuckyall ALL Bucs woes are due to Brady. You probably should quit watching the NFL because you have NO clue how the game is played. Let’s reunite when Bowles and Leftwich are indicted in the HOF.
November 4th, 2022 at 7:44 pm
Let’s not forget why Brady came here. It had nothing to do with him looking for greener pastures. It had all to do with a clash of egos between coach and player and Brady feeling disrespected. This is not the case in Tampa. He stays here until he is done.
Second, the coach is unimportant when it comes to Brady. Don’t call for the coach’s head – Brady practically made a below average coach (see Browns) to the best coach ever (allegedly). Bill is not winning anything without Brady. He is not even winning his division.
Don’t blame the players around Brady. He’s won with less.
It is all about his divorce. He is not mentally there. Hopefully he puts all this stuff. Shine him and concentrates on winning games.
November 4th, 2022 at 8:14 pm
Sgr, even the best need a running game. This is 100% on BL not scheming correctly and making in game adjustments. Same goes for Bowles & the D. Run it until it works is for pop Warner not the NFL.
November 4th, 2022 at 8:37 pm
What if Brady went to the owners and said. I will come back but you have to get rid of the crap coaching staff and hire Sean Payton. Bet Brady would stay then even if you had to give the saints a small ransom for the rights.
November 4th, 2022 at 9:21 pm
Oneilbuc, is it Brady fault his recievers can’t get separation? Go look at the next gen stats. You have this opinion with absolutely nothing to back it up. Is it Brady’s fault they can’t run? Is it Brady’s fault his defense can’t get off the field on third down?(25th in opponent conversation rate) Is it Brady’s fault Jason Licht signed a bunch of old, injury prone vets? Bowles is in over his head, and you can’t admit it. It must also be Brady’s fault that Godwin hurt his knee, AB lost his mind, and Bowles continued to blitz Stafford.
November 4th, 2022 at 9:21 pm
I don’t believe that “ divorce “ is set in stone.
I think he will retire and mend things with Gisele.
November 4th, 2022 at 10:01 pm
Here we go again with the 49ers jabber.
When there actually was an opportunity, Brady met with Shanahan and Lynch. Shanahan didn’t like what Brady thought and said, Brady mocked his playcalling esp. in the SB, and the deal was off. Bucs should be thankful.
Brady left and would later refer to a team taking a QB instead him.
“They took THAT MF over me?” Some say Derek Carr (Raiders), but I believe ‘that MF’ was Jimmy G.
Given that Shanahan/Lynch is still running the 49ers, it would take both sides patching up their intense dislike to even consider a Brady regime in SF, much less a 46 yr old Brady. It would also entail SF giving up on Trey Lance, and Jimmy G is still there too.
Brady would, however, find it quite easy in SF, which is stacked with talent (Deebo, McCaffrey, Kittle/)and the similar kind of smashmouth+defense system that protected Elway and Manning in Denver.
November 4th, 2022 at 10:14 pm
If this any other quarterback not name Tom Brady the blame will be on the quarterback on offense and yall know it. But I get it if Brady plays well Sunday it’s all Brady. But if he plays bad than it’s BL fault and that’s just crazy but ok lol 🤣..
November 5th, 2022 at 1:42 am
Oneilbuc I think your getting lost in the Blame game..
What I mean is yes Brady has not play outstanding according to previous years but he’s dealing with some interesting circumstances and we both know he’s not a mobile qb.
So then we look to how the play call and game management is effecting the outcome of the game.
You can not tell me you believe this game plan has been adequate or strategic in the least?
Predictable and no separation…
How many times do we get wide open receivers..almost never..Brady putting it in windows and keeping turnovers very low.
Unfortunately touch downs have been low.
Honestly I feel like Brady has been playing it safe to much and looking for check downs like a fresh out college qb.
It’s obvious he’s missing gronk and any resemblance of a run game.
Does Brady deserve to own the losses thats absolutely a yes.
Qb moves the offense and well this offense can’t move.
If we compare him to a few current qbs I think he’s very close to their numbers and has had to deal with a injured wideout room and lack luster run game…3 at time 4 new line men..only wirf has played all games.
Tight ends that ain’t jumping out the box..which if you have a pocket qb you have to have a receiver tight end.
Personally if I was the bucs I ask Mike evans to play te ..put julio at his spot assuming he’s healthy..Godwin n gage at the 2 n 3…
Have Mike high pointing balls using his td red zone skill to extend drives.
Godwin is a great 3rd down receiver but his health still has him questionable on every play or drive.
This year is a new roster and I honestly feel creativity is lacking from the coaches.
I like to see some more risk it biscuit style n red matter on the play boom Personally.
November 5th, 2022 at 8:45 am
Dear Joe,
Tom Brady will play for the Miami Dolphins next season.
Gisele Bundchen’s new home in Miami tells us many things.
Tom Brady got the mansion being built in Miami in the divorce settlement.
Don’t forget about the KIDS!
November 5th, 2022 at 10:39 am
Tua is one of the best QB’s in the NFL, Niners have a MOUNTAIN of picks invested in Lance, absolute stupidity to suggest Brady goes to either of those teams. (assuming he continues at all) As for Darden, he’s the #10 punt returner in the league, seems to have found his niche. In the less-than-likely event he plays another season, I’d think it would be here, along with the guys like Jensen, Lenny and Godwin whom he urged to re-sign for multiple years
November 5th, 2022 at 1:09 pm
This is why I didn’t buy the speculation in the offseason. He wants to near his kids. That’s a major reason he signed with Tampa in the first place.