Bradley Chubb And The Bucs
October 31st, 2022
Bucs GM Jason Licht
Joe is unaware of a team that lost its top pass rusher in midseason and still won a Super Bowl.
Tampa Bay lost its top pass rusher on Thursday night when Bucs sacks king Shaq Barrett blew out his Achilles against the Ravens.
Todd Bowles said fourth-year man Anthony Nelson will replace Shaq with Carl Nassib getting more time in a rotation with Joe Tryon-Shoyinka. The trio has combined for 6 1/2 sacks in eight games.
Is that enough of an edge rush to win a Super Bowl? Highly doubtful.
So Joe is wondering if Bucs general manager Jason Licht make a move before the NFL trade deadline tomorrow at 4 p.m.
It appears the Broncos are shopping Bradley Chubb, who has immense talent but is better known as the guy Denver drafted in 2018 when they could have picked Josh Allen. Chubb, 26, has dealt with multiple serious injuries but is healthy now and has 5 1/2 sacks this season while not missing a game.
It is said the Broncos want a first-round pick in return for Chubb, who is in the final year of his affordable rookie contract. Joe wouldn’t pay that much, but Joe probably would cough up a second-rounder.
If you’re thinking that’s insane, then Joe suggests you think the Bucs have no shot at making a Super Bowl run this season.
If Bucs management feels that way, then Joe would advise them to waive the white flag and trade a player or two of their own.
You’re either all-in or you’re not.
October 31st, 2022 at 7:49 am
Where are the turnovers man. Hasn’t been a pick in weeks or a forced fumble. Think the D has held up there end for the most part gotta get a few turnovers though man
October 31st, 2022 at 7:52 am
I would have liked Chubb to replace JTS prior to Shaq getting hurt
October 31st, 2022 at 8:02 am
Keep in mind that a Tampa 2nd round pick is likely to be a pick that will be in the 33-37 overall range. The Bucs are also in cap he!!, so can they even afford Chubb under the cap?
October 31st, 2022 at 8:04 am
We’ll stand still….right now Licht can pin all of this on Bowles and Leftwich. We start trading away picks that then fail to produce and the focus shifts to Licht.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:06 am
The Bucs have no shot at the SB. Tom’s going to the niners next year
October 31st, 2022 at 8:07 am
Jersey, did you miss the last 3 games D held up their own??? Ravens score was 10-3 at the half. Please don’t give me the boo hoo they were tired excuse, Ravens ran right down their throats their first 3 qtr series then the flood gates opened.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:07 am
I can feel the Joe’s pain !
I hope the Bucs are sellers before trade deadline, this season is toast!
Like Kenny Rogers sung in his song The Gambler
October 31st, 2022 at 8:08 am
This team shouldn’t be trading FOR anybody. Ownership should be putting a stop to any major transactions.
This team isn’t a couple of bad bounces away from winning these games, they are losing convincingly. I don’t think the Glazers have the stomach to fire Bowles and Licht and pay out their contracts, but that’s probably what needs to happen at the end of this season.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:09 am
Send Tom to the 49’ers today! so he can finish his career in California and have some fresh stimuli
October 31st, 2022 at 8:11 am
SB, I don’t believe the season is toast. With a more intelligent creative OC Bucs could sneak into the PO’s and who k own what happens from there. Remember Bucs almost (Bowels um) made it to the NFC finals last season and Shaq & LVD were hurt and out for a while plus JPP was useless.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:12 am
Lost season. Start trading for draft picks. We’ll lament Toilet Bowles decision not to cover the best WR not once but twice in the last 40 seconds of the Ram game. That was our shot at another title. Now? I might not li e long enough to see Tampa win it again.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:21 am
Yes. Replace Plan 9 with him.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:24 am
Joe. Are you thinking a Bucs’ Super Bowl? LOL.
The Bucs’ Guard to Guard is weak and a sieve.
Brady to The Gronk was really the key to the offense.
Suh did more than most people thought.
This was a rebuilding year before Brady decided to retire.
Now Shaq is going to IR.
And the Bucs would consider giving up a number one pick (which will be a high pick)!
October 31st, 2022 at 8:24 am
being the fact the team has been playing soft, i think it’s about time we bust out that mean azz all pewter look…
get mean and nasty with the pewter jerseys and pewter pants…
no more of this all white gear for tip toeing thru the tulips
October 31st, 2022 at 8:25 am
it’s time to switch it up and rock the pewter jerseys !
October 31st, 2022 at 8:27 am
Uh, Superbowl? Did you mention a Superbowl, for the Bucs? Lucky if we sniff the playoffs. The Rams are coming into town having dropped eight regular season games to the 49ers, they are going to be anxious to blow up the pirate ship. I hear the voice of coach Jim Mora hollering Playoffs, Playoffs? It is sad how quickly we have fallen. I thought the Glasers would have canned Leftwich after another subpar performance Thursday night. But no, apparently ownership wants us to suffer right through the first game in Munich. I can picture now Seahawks dive bombing the pirate ship, viva sauerkraut.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:30 am
Even if you add a talented player but the inept and incompetent coaches does not know how to utilize them, then it’s just a waste. Fire Bowles and LEftwich first.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:31 am
Sell, don’t buy. You have assets. Build the next team while you can Licht. The Brady Effect is over. Nostalgia is expensive.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:38 am
I’m not there yet for the simple fact that the Bucs are not mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. The 2011 Giants lost 4 games in a row, ended up .500 at that point, and still won the Super Bowl. The Glazers and Jason Licht need to do a gut check before they consider this.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:40 am
There’s nothing worse than a team that gives up. They aren’t worth your time or money. Especially when they continue to cash their checks. Get rid of anyone who doesn’t want to be there, no matter who it is.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:46 am
I like the idea of trading Brady to the 49ers. Jimmy G stinks and Brady would be a much better option if it’s a all in year. Read this morning Giselle will be living in MIAMI and Tom Tampa. Belichicks text to Flores sure blew those plans up plus the Bucs holding him hostage for this cluster f@#k of a team.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:48 am
Doesn’t matter if the front office is all in, coaches and players don’t seem to be all in
October 31st, 2022 at 8:53 am
Don’t temp me with a good time Joe.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:56 am
Bucs never do stuff
October 31st, 2022 at 8:59 am
I see no way we trade for Chubb. He will not get us to a Super Bowl and neither would have Shaq Barrett.
The Rams look very beatable, especially with Cooper Cupp injured.
But, then come the mighty Seahawks ……
October 31st, 2022 at 9:00 am
Super bowl??? Seriously? Now is definitely the time to bring back some sage advice from Mr. Jim Mora. “PLAYOFFS?! Don’t talk about—playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs!?!”
October 31st, 2022 at 9:01 am
Trade Brady to the PAckers and ROdgers to the Bucs and lets see between those 2 who can resucitate both teams. 🙂
October 31st, 2022 at 9:07 am
Can we trade for a #RealGM ?
October 31st, 2022 at 9:20 am
Chubb was selected #5 in the 2018 draft by Denver. Got me thinking about the rest of that draft. Bucs traded out of the #7 pick to get the #12 pick from Buffalo plus TWO 2nd Rnd picks. With those 3 picks we grabbed Vea, then MJ Stewart then Davis. Buffalo drafted their QB of the future, Josh Allen with the #7 pick.
Instead of moving down & getting Vea, Bucs COULD have stayed pat at #7 & drafted Allen (but hey, we had Jameis so we good). OR we could have drafted ILB Roquan Smith, T Mike McGlinchey, S Minkah Fitzpatrick or DT Daron Payne. BUT … we wouldn’t have gotten Carlton Davis as a freebie IF we’d stayed at #7. (Or MJ Stewart, but we won’t go there).
Hindsight’s always perfect, but the only one of that whole group I’d rather have than BOTH Vea & Davis is Josh Allen. Of course, IF we’d drafted him, we never would’ve gotten Tom Brady AND Lefty would’ve found a way to neuter him by this point. So we good.
October 31st, 2022 at 9:29 am
Jmarkbuc
Right on with you as far as the dunderbox GM here in Tampa
Go get Chubb, this GM was terrible without Bruce Arians picking the groceries
October 31st, 2022 at 9:29 am
We need two guards and a center
Another corner and saftey
We need a dt and2 outside linebackers
We also need a tight end
Then we can make a run
October 31st, 2022 at 9:30 am
Ha!
Super Bowl? Are you kidding? We have no shot. It’s over. I wouldn’t be spending capital on acquiring other teams’ unwanted crap.
J03 would be correct in suggesting that I think they have no chance of making a Super Bowl run. As things appear now, we will struggle to win the division. Frankly I’d be unloading players, namely Devin White and anyone else who gives us nothing… Rudolph, Hicks.
I’d take Chubb in exchange for a 4th rounder, or straight up swap with D. White.
October 31st, 2022 at 9:32 am
Listnfrmafar … ‘I like the idea of trading Brady to the 49ers.’
Step back from the edge for a second, take a breath, then tell me WHY the 49ers would even consider trading for Tom Brady (they did purportedly pass on him in 2019). They’re 4-4, but Garappolo has actually been playing reasonably well (not great, but good enough to win). Handing the reins halfway through a season to a QB who doesn’t know your offensive system MIGHT possibly be a little risky?
October 31st, 2022 at 9:40 am
I feel ya Joe but just an edge rusher isn’t going to fix us, no tight end, no offensive line, and a screwed up Devin White. I’d trade his ass right now for that crap performance Thursday night and for that matter several other games where he disappeared. He reminds me of Barrett Rudd, ten tackles a game but all of them 10 to 20 yards down the field.
October 31st, 2022 at 9:41 am
This season can be summed up Clint Eastwood style. ‘Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining’ !
October 31st, 2022 at 9:43 am
I hear Jim Mora in my head when reading this article,
Playoffs? Playoffs are you kidding me? We’re just trying to win a game!
October 31st, 2022 at 9:47 am
This would be a great move… I know it’s doom and gloom right now. But I’m always in support of the Bucs getting great players and Chubb is a beast. Can’t have enough great pass rushers. Just because we may not be Super Bowl contenders this year doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep trying to build the trenches.
October 31st, 2022 at 9:49 am
You can’t will a Super Bowl with the coaching we have.
October 31st, 2022 at 9:53 am
Bucs gong NOWHERE thanks to the GIANT Todd Bowels Movement
October 31st, 2022 at 9:56 am
Watched a lot of games yesterday- we are on par with the Texans and Jags
The rest of the league is light years ahead of us
It couldn’t have gone any worse than this
Lovie Smith and Todd Bowles have the same amount of losses after 8 weeks
That is the level we have become in one off season
October 31st, 2022 at 10:01 am
Marpet, Jenkins, Capp
anything else you don’t understand
October 31st, 2022 at 10:06 am
Trading top draft picks is not the way to go. Bucs made mistakes investing in Julio Jones and Hicks. Injuries have taken a toll. Think about the future- Jensen back, Godwin healthier. Bucs need to focus on upgrading TE’s , DLine and OLine and pay Dean next year. Now about next year’s QB situation ……
October 31st, 2022 at 10:08 am
@ DR
LOL!!!
Can you imagine Brady trying to run the read option offense?
I realize they would change things up but that would be hilarious to watch…
October 31st, 2022 at 10:10 am
The Bucs are not going to do squat before the trade deadline.
This season is swirling around the toilet bowl like my morning dump…
October 31st, 2022 at 10:22 am
@Marine and DR,
Having Brady run an RPO would be something he would fail at, everytime, in spectacular fashion. It would look about the same as a roll-out, LOL.
I love me some Brady but that would be hilarious to watch.
As for the Bucs this year, I’m still (slightly) optimistic change can occur and we start playing more competitively. It would take a Herculean TEAM effort though.
I’ve seen enough football in my last 4+ decades of watching/playing to know it’s possible, but very unprobable.
Still, the season isn’t over, and on the off-chance they wake up and make a season of this, I want to be there to watch the turnaround, and will be proud of them IF they turn things around.
Not giving up on this season yet….GO BUCS!!!
October 31st, 2022 at 10:23 am
Bowles said something about “ a fair trade”
LOL
beggars can’t be choosers
Pick this roster to the bones today!
October 31st, 2022 at 10:39 am
@ D-Rok
LOL!
This team needs to focus on three games… New Orleans, Atlanta and Carolina.
If we win those three games we have a chance at the playoffs.
The Bucs should rest up all the injured and elderly players and allow the younger back ups to get some playing time during the rest of the season…
If we win those three games and get healthy towards the end of the season who knows what can happen.
The NFL is crazy and this year is no exception…
October 31st, 2022 at 11:03 am
Put white on as outside linebacker, if you have to play him. He’s killing us on the inside.
October 31st, 2022 at 11:05 am
White, the worse player on defense, is our Captain? Thanks, Bowles.
October 31st, 2022 at 11:20 am
Carl L agree on white as an edge guy. but that is on Bowels and this dumb coaching staff, Move the dude around, they have to see the film I hope to see what a liability he is out there. Figured he would be the next Luke Kuechly or Patrick Willis, but he plays like a entitled guy who cashed his check and is looking to ride horses in Louisiana not tackle football players in the NFL
October 31st, 2022 at 11:45 am
This is a fringe WC team (at best), can you trade for a new OFC?
October 31st, 2022 at 11:46 am
If Licht/Bucs makes no trades, does that mean the Bucs brass are giving up on the season?
October 31st, 2022 at 12:09 pm
The Lost Season
October 31st, 2022 at 12:27 pm
Chubb would be an excellent addition 4 years in HIGH altitude going to sea level his motor will be unstoppable!!! And he is a great player to cough up a 2nd rounder for, he would be as good as Barrett in my opinion!
October 31st, 2022 at 12:29 pm
The Broncos would have to convert his base salary into a big signing bonus and I guess use void years for 5 years in order to bring his base salary down to like $2.5, but if I understand it correctly, that would mean the Broncos eating the rest of that money.
I can’t really see a team carrying that kind of dead cap space, for years, for a 2nd round pick.
Maybe if the Joe’s have some contacts in they team they say if there is any possibility of a deal with this.
Again, the cap is very flexible, but that flexibility has been used to keep the team together this long. Looking at the roster, if the online cap sites are correct, there really isn’t much the Bucs can do to create cap space at this point. Maybe they could sign David to a long-term deal, but they’re also already going to be carrying $7m in dead cap space for David for next season, and then $2.5m in dead cap for years after that, so any deal would be on top of that salary.
The other one, maybe, would be to sign Brady to a long term deal, but he’s already a $35m cap hit next year, then $10m for another 2 seasons, that’s just dead cap space and any extension is on top of that — I believe.
I will say, however, I’ve never seen a good breakdown of how void years work with restructures or extensions, so maybe in that situation the hits are pushed back? But I don’t believe so – I believe it’s all added to the salary.
Also, for those that don’t know, you do not get back salary cap space for injured players.
Getting Chubb, with his $12m base salary, would be very difficult unless he signed an extension as part of the deal, and pushed pretty much all of his money into the future.
October 31st, 2022 at 12:35 pm
Why waste anything on a rents ? I love Joe and fellows Joes thinking this season is going to magically turn around with a 3-5 team, but after they comeback from Germany they will be 3-7 ?? Start the rebuild and get what you can, but I will bet anyone a $100 that they won’t beat the Rams ( who took their pride and soul ) and a well coached Seattle team. Did you see Pete motivate his decimated team that beat the Giants. I will give someone 5-1 odds that they go to 3-7, so $500 or $100.. dead serious because most people know how bad this group ( that can’t be called a team ) is !!!
October 31st, 2022 at 1:15 pm
Chubb for JTS and a 4th
October 31st, 2022 at 1:19 pm
Not going to lie I’m pretty down on the Bucs too but seriously there is still a lot of football left. I do wish leftwich would be canned and bring back BA to run the offense. This team still has a lot of talent. Get the offense right and the defense will perform better too. 3 n out after 3 n out will wear down even the best n most fit defenses out there. We seriously need gronk to get the offense a jolt. Until we are fully eliminated it’s still let’s go Bucs for this fan
October 31st, 2022 at 2:03 pm
Naw, keep losing gor Willie Anderson. Hes a true pass rusher. Chubb was good before the injuries. No way for a 2. He’s a rental.
October 31st, 2022 at 2:58 pm
Works for me.
October 31st, 2022 at 3:37 pm
Chubb can keep Hicks company.
October 31st, 2022 at 7:06 pm
Drafting is so much easier 5 years later. Anybody claiming they knew the Bucs should have drafted Josh Alan should cut and paste their comment saying it at the time. It’s just 20/20 hindsight.
October 31st, 2022 at 10:17 pm
This team has needed several new upgraded starters on D and O for months. Now it’s too late, they wasted what resources they had. Do any of you get the feeling that these guys will do anything except “next JAG up” practice squad guys? Or bring back more former underperformers who are on the street?
October 31st, 2022 at 10:37 pm
LOL
Someone said Tom is going to the 49ers next year. Why would the 49ers want to do that???? Jimmy G has been playing well and their QB of the future comes back next year.
If Brady decides to play next year it’s going to come down to Jensen and another receiver on offense and needing, as usual, more pass rush.
If that’s not sorted out he might go elsewhere but his options of the 49ers and the Miami dolphins no longer exist