Offensive Line A Work In Progress
September 2nd, 2022
Center Robert Hainsey.
For the first time in a long time, there isn’t consistency on the Bucs’ offensive line.
That’s what happens when you have three new starters in the interior, two of which will be making their first starts in their NFL careers.
Joe has stated that the line will improve as the season grows older. Bucs coach Todd Bowles pretty much said the same yesterday.
“You know they’re out there working, the chemistry will come over time – it’s not going to be exact Week 1 – but it will be good enough,” Bowles said. “And if they keep working together, the chemistry is going to grow.”
That’s just it. Chemistry will develop. And Robert Hainsey at center and Luke Goedeke or Nick Leverett at left guard won’t be green by the time December rolls around.
By the time the bye rolls arrives in November, these guys should be veterans.
September 2nd, 2022 at 12:03 am
One can only hope
September 2nd, 2022 at 12:06 am
I’m not seeing any progress to bolster depth. Now is the time to fortify. Don’t wait until Shaq or Tristan go down. Act now, Jason.
September 2nd, 2022 at 12:13 am
***THIS JUST IN***
Water is wet!
This is the most blatantly obvious post I have ever seen on this website
September 2nd, 2022 at 12:33 am
Thinking about the massive crater and center-left guard make me green.
And no depth signings for the Brittle Bunch. Nice.
September 2nd, 2022 at 12:33 am
Think T-Dog needs to change his username to Hot-dog. He’s heated lol.
The O-line is definitely going to be the ‘make it or break it’ group.
Thinking the DBs don’t mind it that way by the way last year ended. 🤔
September 2nd, 2022 at 1:44 am
being new HC , Bowles may be reluctant to push Jason to get some experienced vets.. But I’m surprised that Arians has not pushed REALLy hard ..by the time they get their chemistry right -we could be 2-7 .
that’ll make Brady really happy & not regret, he created all the “s–t in his life for that
September 2nd, 2022 at 2:08 am
Thanks, Coach Obvious. For admitting that the line is “inexact but good enough”. Removing the PR filter, (and the refusal of this “Next JAG Up” fan bunch to admit anything) that means “not good”, period. And they continue to “not panic” aka not really care, as their guys lose their battles.
So they’re going to spent this entire final Brady season letting this “work in progress” stumble around.
As for “by the time the bye rolls around in November”, the season could be lost well before then. Our 45 yr old QB could be battered, frustrated and looking at an ugly ending.
This is not win-now/all-in at all. This is not a team with an elite, powerful SB-caliber team built specifically for the GOAT’s final bow. No, it’s a midgrade team full of question marks, that is worse than it was.
September 2nd, 2022 at 2:27 am
I feel Goedeke will grow throughout the season as well. I saw Tom getting plenty of time with that starter oline against a difficult defense in Indy.
September 2nd, 2022 at 2:35 am
Bottom Line:
Todd Bowles, while clearly a good defensive coach, has never demonstrated an ability for evaluating offensive talent. His offenses while head coach for the Jets were predictable and ineffective. His record as a coach there was abysmal.
W-24, L 40 only one season in four with above 5 wins. I sincerely hope TB will somehow save us but with that offensive line I fear I’ll just be spitting in the wind.
September 2nd, 2022 at 3:03 am
MarkR … ‘His (Todd Bowles) record as a coach there was abysmal. W-24, L 40.’
Any leader is only as good as the people they surround themselves with. As the old saying goes ‘It’s hard to soar like an eagle when you work with turkeys’.
Bowles had very little to work with when he was Jets’ HC. Look at his 4-year list of starting QBs: Ryan Fitzpatrick (13-14), Geno Smith (1-0), Bryce Petty (1-6), Josh McCown (5-11), Sam Darnold (4-9). Smith was a rookie; Petty was a rookie; Darnold was a rookie; and the other 2 were well-traveled journeymen QBs. Bill Belichick couldn’t have won with those as his starters. The REAL problem with the NY Jets at that time was their GM, Mike Maccagnan (who was hired in 2015 with Bowles and fired in 2018 with Bowles).
Bucs have an excellent coach, an excellent coaching staff, and a very talented roster. None of it’s perfect, but it’s light-years ahead of what we suffered with prior to BA & company coming onboard. The grass really isn’t always greener on the other side of the fence.
September 2nd, 2022 at 3:26 am
Sign a fn lg..it’s just stupid to run it with 2 rookies next to each other..I’m the spot Tom climbs the pocket at
September 2nd, 2022 at 4:45 am
The season begins in a week and Bowles doesn’t know his starting LG.
September 2nd, 2022 at 6:55 am
Sorry but that rationale is ludicrisp as mike tyson would say
If there is a breakdown with oline in weeks 1 , 2 or 3 and a Dtackle sacks and lands on brady knee for example , its season over. So who cares what happens in november.
I think hainsey will be fine. A Decent player. Goedeke will likely be fine in time. But the people on here acting like we good and take a chill pill are delusional. Heck, hainsey looked like he was done for extended period of time from the sniper shot last preseason game only for cameras to catch him later on sidelines having a good time. Dude aint tough. Brady will save them some face with 2.2 seconds. But brady may not to get a chance to use his 4 receivers and dump a ton of balls in the dirt to avoid a hit this season. But keep fingers crossed that these guys get it rolling by week 8 or 9 or 10. Dumbest thing ever.
And leverett…nah…walton please… really bad non move by licht. Lets hope jensen is like a month or two away and not end of December
September 2nd, 2022 at 7:10 am
MarkR, that winning percentage would put Bowles near that of this organization’s best coaches, sadly.
September 2nd, 2022 at 7:27 am
Laurent Duvernay Tardif is out there and wanting to play. If anyone knows how to reach Jason Licht I can get the 2 in touch as he is working in the hospital where I am located right now!
September 2nd, 2022 at 7:31 am
We need quality depth on the O line…. Jason L was a Oline man in college he knows how to find and develop Line man … we have to trust his record
September 2nd, 2022 at 7:48 am
Has Laurent Duvernay-Tardif had a decent year since 2017??
September 2nd, 2022 at 7:56 am
I have to agree with PassingThru on this one. Not to mention even if they know who will start at LG and Hainsey is completely healthy and fine, we still lack depth now. On top of that Josh Wells is still on this team ffs.You really wanna count on him if a T goes down? I sure as hell don’t. Brady no doubt wouldn’t either.
September 2nd, 2022 at 9:23 am
Since I started watching the Bucs in 2020 I haven’t seen any evidence that the OC knows how to scheme receivers open or pass block. I suspect that Brady changed the offence after the 2020 bye and he seems to refuse lots of plays coming from the sideline.
How about keeping Kieft in the backfield as a fullback to block? Or, two running backs to block then one releases as a receiver? Also, run more play action and never ever leave Brady in an empty set (can’t believe they have ever done that with Brady under center).
September 2nd, 2022 at 10:08 am
The OL will get plenty of help from the new TEs and RBs. They will be good enough for plenty of wins!! Let the season begin!!!
September 2nd, 2022 at 10:56 am
How Wells is still here is beyond me. He really looked like a Well lubed turnstile when his number was called last year. A PS is the best he should play for and it doesn’t necessarily need to be ours.
If Joes’ Earl of Watford is still available, he would be an upgrade at depth. Hell, his name alone can block better than Wells or the others. We need good depth, not just depth.
September 2nd, 2022 at 11:55 am
Don’t get behind in the downs.
We should see a lot more runs. A lot of play action. Willingness to punt.
September 2nd, 2022 at 2:04 pm
It absolute malpractice that Licht has not brought in two experienced interior offensive lineman . The two guys they have are not NFL quality starters . The Bucs have Bradynfor one year and need to make the most of it .
September 2nd, 2022 at 9:21 pm
All this tells me is there has not been any good deals being offerred..
I guess the price will be high.
Im thinking we will have Brady more than a year so we need high standards
September 3rd, 2022 at 3:41 am
Defense Rules,
I completely agree that Bowles had little to work with in his four years with the Jets … but whose fault is that? Does not the head coach possess significant input and say on who gets drafted and traded and how those players are used and developed? I’m originally from NY. The Jets won 10 in (Bowles) year one and four in year four. His offenses were sad.
TB needs only one thing to contend for the superbowl, one thing … a good interior OL. To ignore that reality is criminal. We cannot afford to lose 3-4 games in the early season. Based on Gisele’s comments this is almost certainly Tom’s last season.