It’s Not Just Jameis Winston
September 16th, 2022
Not a focus for Todd Bowles.
Joe knows a sect of Bucs fans cannot sleep at night because they want so desperately for the Bucs to pound the slimy Saints for one reason and one reason only.
That’s the opportunity to kick dirt in the face of America’s Quarterback, Mr. Entertainment, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
Bucs coach Todd Bowles doesn’t think that way. After glowingly speaking about the former Jameis today, Bowles basically said focusing solely on stopping Jameis is a dangerous trap if the Bucs hope to break a seven-game regular-season losing streak to the slimy Saints.
“I don’t think we prepare for Jameis, I think we prepare for the team,” Bowles said. “He is only one guy. If we prepare [only] for him, the other 10 guys on offense are going to kill us.”
Bowles added that the slimy Saints are a complete team, capable of burning an opponent if left unchecked.
As for as a rivalry, Bowles said there is no rivalry. Like he said earlier this week, a rivalry requires both sides beating up on each other. For the Bucs and the slimy Saints to have a true rivalry, the Bucs have some catching up to do with victories; Tampa Bay has lost seven in a row in the regular season.
September 16th, 2022 at 1:03 pm
Bowles is a late comer to Tampa. Hell yes there is a rivalry. I hate them period. Don’t care the QB. They are still fuming from being the first team to lose to the Bucs 45 years ago. I watched that game and still savor the moment. So yes I want my boys to kick their tails.
September 16th, 2022 at 1:08 pm
Don’t play possum Coach Bowles with the rivalry down play unless you got a lil’ something extra special for their arse. They are as dirty as their below sea level/underwater city. Not one redeeming quality…coach, player or fan. Sewer City Saints…
September 16th, 2022 at 1:10 pm
Add former Buc 2nd round pick Justin “Bustin’” Evans to the mix as well. He’ll be lurking in the secondary on Sunday.
September 16th, 2022 at 1:14 pm
I hope we win but I still wish the best for Jameis after seeing all the issues Watson has it makes Jameis look like a Saint oh he is a Saint.
September 16th, 2022 at 1:19 pm
It’s his defense that is never ready for the trick play. So maybe he should prepare for him. To do the what we know he will do when it will even is shown on the field it is coming.
September 16th, 2022 at 1:21 pm
I tire of fans with a woody for ATM.
Move on. He’s somebody else’s problem now.
September 16th, 2022 at 1:36 pm
Todd was great with those comments. Praise the former player and respect the team you are facing.
See that, Luke? Instead of announcing you’ve arrived, how about a little common sense?
September 16th, 2022 at 1:37 pm
I know there is a sect of alleged Bucs fans that would love nothing more than to see the Bucs lose to the Saints for one reason and one reason only. So they can spike the proverbial football on this ridiculous idea that Jay-Miss could have led the Bucs to the Super Bowl in 2020 if he had one more year and was properly coached.
Some people out there think the Saints are going to win the division. Hold on then, if the Saints are that good then what drove Sean Payton to leave the Saints? Why is it rumored that he wants to return to coaching with the Dolphins? The reason is because he couldn’t stomach coaching Jay-Miss for one more season.
I’m kidding……..but am I?
September 16th, 2022 at 1:43 pm
This is specious logic. It can’t be a rivalry because the Bucs have lost seven in a row? That’s exactly why it’s a rivalry!
I love New Orleans. It’s a great place to visit, sight see, and party. The people are friendly, there is nothing wrong with New Orleans.
Now just imagine we had defeated the Saints seven times in a row but lost to the Panthers seven times in a row. Which team would be the Bucs rival then?
September 16th, 2022 at 1:59 pm
Jameis is the perfect heel.
In professional wrestling, a heel (also known as a rudo in lucha libre) is a wrestler who portrays a villain, “bad guy” or “rulebreaker” and acts as an antagonist to the faces, who are the heroic protagonist or “good guy” characters.
Tom is the perfect good guy or face.
In professional wrestling, a face (babyface) is a heroic, “good guy” or “fan favorite”
September 16th, 2022 at 2:02 pm
Going to the game! Excited to see JW vs TB. Epic
September 16th, 2022 at 2:08 pm
The people triggered by Winston are mentally ill nutjobs.
Winston wasn’t the reason the Bucs were losing, having LITERALLY the worst defense in the NFL from 2015-2019 and LITERALLY the worst kicking game in the NFL from 2015-2019 while LITERALLY playing the hardest schedule in the NFL from 2016-2019 is why the Bucs were losing, not because of Winston. In fact, get this, Winston is the 2nd best QB in team history, only behind Brady. In fact, Winston set nearly all offensive passing records for the team before Brady, with one exception, that being turnovers, where he did not set any team records.
Winston was never the issue here, and if you think otherwise, you’re an idiot. You can hope he throws 5 INTs while we’re playing him, I have no issues with that, I hope it’s a blowout on Sunday in favor of the Bucs, but to want ‘revenge’? For what? For delivering a good offense for the FIRST time in team history? For making games exciting to watch, when the defense is giving up 28 points in the first half and yet it’s coming down to the last seconds of the game. You morons are the same idiots that praised Mike Glennon for not turning the ball over when we’d lose a game 31-6. Screw off.
Any real Bucs fan, and not just bandwagon rider that came over during the 1st or 2nd SB years, knows what a bad QB is that costs you games – and Winston was worlds better than Testaverde, Chandler, Dilfer, and yes, Williams and Johnson.
Boo all you want during the game – but shutup with the fake narrative that Winston was to blame for all the years that Ryan Smith and Chris Conte were starting on defense.
September 16th, 2022 at 2:09 pm
Jameis is easy to figure, stay in his face and his decisions falter.
Outside backers have to be alert for Hill, and Michael Thomas needs a permanent safety over him. Kamara has bruised ribs, so probably not a big deal.
Big problem is getting our offense into the game.
September 16th, 2022 at 2:26 pm
Knock the stupid out of him on Sunday!
September 16th, 2022 at 2:37 pm
Are we railing on buc fans who want to beat winston? Why do we always have to divide buc fans
September 16th, 2022 at 2:41 pm
Craig Says:
September 16th, 2022 at 2:09 pm
Jameis is easy to figure, stay in his face and his decisions falter.
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Just shows how people literally don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
For literally his entire time in Tampa, Winston was one of the very very best QBs in the NFL versus the blitz. In fact, he was #1 at numerous points in a bunch of seasons.
Blitzing and getting pressure are two different things. Winston seems to be his best when you blitz and move him out of the pocket. You’re actually best to just sit back and play a boring game where you try to get pressure with just 4 rushers while playing a boring game, mixing up man and zone and trying to bait Winston into taking unnecessary deep shots.
September 16th, 2022 at 2:49 pm
@Rod Munch
That’s alot of typing to gloss over the fact as it stands Jameis Winston has thrown 91 INTs in 84 career games and only threw 3 of those 91 picks as a member of the Saints. What point are you even trying to prove? If points off turnovers were tracked better as a stat in the NFL(they aren’t because it’d diminish the QB driven narrative around the league) Winstons’ time as a Buc would look even worse and there’s now way to revise history that was THAT mediocre for any Buc fan that lived through that GARBAGE! You’re polishing a turd, and guess what it still stinks and it’s only thrown 1 pass in a postseason game in a 7-8 year career. Just STOP, you sound ridiculous outchea
September 16th, 2022 at 2:54 pm
BTW, going more and more into stats, this is remarkable as it’s never talked about.
Winston’s stats in the red zone…
169-321, 1382 yards, 93 TDs, 4 INTs
45 rushes for 124 yards and 11 TDs
When using play-action…
89-135, 1519 yards, 9 TDs, 1 INT
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Just for fun, here’s Brady’s stats in that same situation…
Red zone,
941-1590, 6520 yards, 439 TDs, 23 INTs
Rushing, 158 att, 270 yards, 27 TDs
When using play-action…
218-349, 3031 yards, 25 TDs, 7 INTs
How in the world has Tom Brady only ever ran 349 playaction passes in his career? That’s an unbelievably low number.
September 16th, 2022 at 2:55 pm
Dooley – Marino never won a SB, so he stinks. Joe Flacco is a much better player.
You’re an idiot.
September 16th, 2022 at 3:05 pm
Rod Munch
You’re the only person on this entire site singing the praises of the human turnover machine that was Jameis Winston. LMAO I’m the idiot, but here YOU are acting like a propagandist for a QB who in his last year in Tampa threw 33 TDS AND 30 INTS! Here you are 3 years later trying to convince people who by my estimations have been following this team much longer than 3 years we’ve been w/o Winston about still trying to explain what didnt work without mentioning the 88 turnovers Winston was responsible for, just shut up. Stick to critiquing “runs up the gut” because we know you barely know how to dissect what you are watching. Jamies Winston isn’t even Doug Flutie or Joe Flacco, let alone Dan Marino gtfoh! LOL
September 16th, 2022 at 3:38 pm
I’d be more concern if it were Hill or Dalton… JW we all know is prone to playing to the defense!
September 16th, 2022 at 3:56 pm
@Dooley
Just an outsider reading but how can you say a QB is Jameis the only QB responsible for all of their interceptions? If that is what you are saying, how can you engage in this conversation with an objective eye? (I thought film actually showed a good chunks were on the receivers)
And the take about the 33 TDs/ 30 INTs is always funny to me because historically, the first season in a real Arians offense will usually produce a QBs highest INT rate but drops as they understand the system more. Only casuals would think he wouldn’t get better in another season in that system and with proper coaching. (Remind me; how long Koetter lasted with Atlanta and how the Browns looked with Monken as their OC?)
Anyway, I doubt Jameis’ interception rate ever going over 2.5% again considering the coaching, the scheme, and personnel, as those things are just as important to success as skill. *shrugs*
September 16th, 2022 at 4:04 pm
ROD wins the battle.
JW is a great QB and he plays for the Saints.
Hey ROD, do the stats for Mahommie, A-Rod and all the rest while you are at it.
The one state that I care about regarding JW is the W-L total for him while he was in Tampa.
Other than that, WHO CARES? Just like McCoy, they never did anything to help the Bucs win as the LEADERS of this team on the field and OFF
September 16th, 2022 at 4:12 pm
I do find it a bit Ironic however, that the Bucs had a historically bad QB at the same time that they had a Historically bad defense.
Thats what you call, A BUCS LIFE.
Wonder if the two go hand in hand. IF one does not affect the other and vice versa???
Things that make you go HMMMM, GLADD it is no longer something that we have to stress about, however.
ITS A NEW DAY TAMPA BAY!!!
September 16th, 2022 at 4:12 pm
Dooley Says:
September 16th, 2022 at 3:05 pm
…I’m the idiot…
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Correct.
September 16th, 2022 at 4:15 pm
CrackWise – Maybe read the full comment and you’ll see I compared the stats to Brady.
On Sunday I hope Winston throws 5 INTs and we win 45-0, but you morons that think that it’s a given, who don’t even know the basics, like Winston excels against the blitz, you’re just idiots who have no idea what you’re watching and what is happening on the field.
As stated, the way to beat Winston is to bore him to death, and to get pressure by only rushing 4. Maybe read to the bottom next time instead of just being triggered and you wouldn’t be so stupid.
September 16th, 2022 at 4:18 pm
Literally! Sorry, LITERALLY!
September 16th, 2022 at 4:46 pm
Teams win games, and teams lose games. Jameis scored more TDS than any other QB in team history before Brady. Too bad that Smith’s defenses surrendered more points than any other defense in team history. Not all of his interceptions are on him, and nobody can fault him for lack of effort. He had one season with a decent ground attack, one great WR, and a sieve for an OL for most of his tenure here. He had ONE he said she said incident while with the Bucs. Big damn deal. He was drunk and horney and grabbed a boob. It wasn’t rape. There was no police report, no charges, no arrest, no trial, and certainly no conviction, and yet Buc “fans” act like there were 24 women lined up with sodomy accusations. I have no doubt the roster we have right now would win games with Jameis at QB. The problem is, we wouldn’t have this roster without Tom Brady. Jameis is not our enemy. His team is.
September 16th, 2022 at 4:57 pm
The Falcons blitzed Winston with great success. He had negative 2 passing yards at halftime(bot a typo) lol. No idea why they callled off the dogs in th 4th Quarter. No way Bowles quits calling the blitz if its working.
Saints looked really bad against the run. The threat of Marioota running looked like it opened up the running lanes. We dont have the same threat so I wont be suprized if they are much tougher to run on this week……..We’d be foolish not to try some runs but its no guarantee we can match what the Falcons did.
September 16th, 2022 at 5:59 pm
Faking, Munch. Who pooped in your lunch box?
September 16th, 2022 at 6:00 pm
Not faking. I typed dang. I hate auto correct.
September 16th, 2022 at 6:27 pm
JimmyJack – If they do blitz it’s really important to make sure it gets there and you’re not just moving him out of the pocket where he has a clear view down the field, that’s when he’s literally at his best. Again, stats prove it, when blitzed Winston is one of the very best QBs in the NFL. Under pressure, which is not the same thing, he’s around 12th or so, which still isn’t bad.
But a boring game where he’s being forced to be a game manager, that’s not Winston and I think eventually you frustrate him into making a mistake – or he just isn’t that effective.
September 16th, 2022 at 6:36 pm
Literally!
September 16th, 2022 at 7:50 pm
Rod Munch whatever stat your looking should be taken into account. But you cant use that to just ignore what just happened. The Falcons pressured Winston from every angle and he crumbled. He was unable to move the ball for an entire 3 Quarters. The only time he did move the ball was in the 4th when the Falcons called off the blitz.
Theres no way Bowles should be not trying to destroy the Saints pass attack the same way the Falcons did.
September 16th, 2022 at 9:09 pm
Can have all the regular wins you want aints, see you in the playoffs
September 16th, 2022 at 9:23 pm
Rod Munch has the most sense by far in this comment section.
September 16th, 2022 at 10:10 pm
BTW In all the mention of health why nothing about JW. I’m sure he’ll start but he did not look very spry or mobile by the end of Falcons game.
They had to pull him with the back injury but more disturbing to me and the TV guys was how JW seemed to favor the bum knee.
JW will be a statue back there if the pass rush gets past the OL.
September 17th, 2022 at 1:44 am
Rod Munch been checkin’ dem sheets! Most Buc fans are allergic to any common sense arguments about Bro. Winston
September 17th, 2022 at 5:03 am
Hilarious to see the Saints described as “dirty” and “slimy” when the Bucs are led by known cheater, panic-and-smash-cellphones-to-destroy-evidence, Brady. Lmfao. Also, I know y’all are insecure about it, but the Bucs are not the Saints rivals. The Falcons are. Deal with it. Everyone including Bucs fans knows that the Bucs are just a raft for Brady to sail off into the sunset on and then it’s back to irrelevance. And he didn’t even want to play for y’all this year. He wanted to go to the Dolohins with Payton. Lmao. What a mess.
September 17th, 2022 at 7:58 am
DannyDuvall Says:
September 17th, 2022 at 5:03 am
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What rock did you slither out from under? Go slither back, troll.
September 17th, 2022 at 9:24 am
Winston is such a fake idiot!! He’s got the IQ of a field cricket!! Constantly making noise and destroying his own crops!! Lol
September 17th, 2022 at 10:16 am
Hey Dan how did that playoff game between the bucs and saints go?
September 17th, 2022 at 2:32 pm
@ Rodrigo Munchito:
wow those jameis stats are scary good…yowzers!
but dude………………marino was a really dam good qb
September 17th, 2022 at 2:50 pm
Y’all are some sad, sad people. Nobody in New Orleans considers this a rivalry outside the fact that we are in the same division.
And the childish trash talk only makes you sound whiney.
September 17th, 2022 at 4:41 pm
1sparkybuc Says:
“Big damn deal. He was drunk and horney and grabbed a boob.”
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Not the boob. The booboo. 😆
September 17th, 2022 at 5:44 pm
Dooley People like Peyton threw even more picks than Winston in the same amount of games. Peyton able to have two winning seasons because he had a hall of fame running back. Bucs fans who bring up the 30 interceptions have a funny memory. They forget about picks threw OJ Howard’s hands, the behind the back pick, Perriman and Godwin messing up on routes so bad Arians called them out after the game. That’s why I hope every time Winston plays the Bucs not only do I want him to win, I want him to destroy them. That man gave his all for the team and ungrateful fans, who put all the teams failures on him. It’s a damn team game. If they had just Succop in 2019 it would of made a difference in the outcome. Brady tossed Arians philosophy out for a reason.
September 18th, 2022 at 10:24 am
Jaywill, have you ever watched this guy play? He is TOO F%@$^%# careless with the football!!!! Yeah it’s great when he pulls it out of his you know what, but that is not consistency. Hero ball will win some games but it takes alot of stars to line up for one of these high volatility quarterbacks to win a super bowl.
September 18th, 2022 at 10:25 am
Jaywill, we’re you ever a bucs fan or always just a jaymiss jock sniff?