How Angry At Jameis Winston Was The Bucs Defense?
September 19th, 2022
After Sunday’s rant by Devin White, it sure seems like the Buccaneers’ defense was a bitter crew when it came to how Jameis Winston gave the ball away like mini-Snickers on Halloween during the 2019 season, his last in Tampa.
Joe couldn’t blame defensive players for being demoralized by how Jameis tossed 30 interceptions that year, before the Bucs didn’t welcome him back for 2020. The defense too often was jolted back onto the field by all those turnovers, many of which proved costly.
Yeah, 30 picks is that bad in the modern era. Consider that only one other quarterback has thrown more than 20 since 2017. That would be DeShone Kizer, who is 26 years old and an unemployed in the NFL.
After Jameis threw three interceptions to the Bucs yesterday, a glorious stroke of irony, White spoke up after the game on the FOX broadcast.
Joe can’t capture White’s tone of voice, but Joe certainly can bring fans the words.
“I mean when Jameis left our team, everybody know what he did that last year,” White said. “And we feel like we had a great defense then and, you know, he threw 30 picks. You know, and we just knew he would give us the ball [Sunday]. We knew the running backs, you know, cough it up. You know, that’s something we came in talking about. We want 30 turnovers as a ballclub ourselves. So it just was another game to to attack the ball.”
Video of White’s chatter can be seen below.
It reminded Joe of old school Bucs like Warren Sapp talking about how the Bucs would have one multiple Super Bowls in the Father Dungy era if they had quality quarterback play.
Players are always seeking motivation, an edge to fire them up, even if it’s manufactured. It smells to Joe like White was leading a charge of payback on Jameis for how those 30 picks he threw a few years ago led to the defense being overlooked, overworked and underappreciated.
White’s rant also jibed with Jamel Dean’s comment last week about Jameis not being a very responsible QB during the 2019 season. And it even meshed a bit with Jameis himself telling the Truss Levelz podcast that his mindset wasn’t focused enough on winning during his Tampa days.
Devin White on Jameis Winston: "When Jameis left our team, everybody knows what he did that last year," "He threw 30 picks."
"We just knew he was going to give us the ball."
Winston threw 3 INTs and had a pick-6 today in the 4th quarter. (@JCAllenNFL)pic.twitter.com/1LdBQeNIo2
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) September 18, 2022
September 19th, 2022 at 12:20 am
Also on Fournettes IG live Godwin seemed mad at Devin White him for saying that about Jameis.
September 19th, 2022 at 12:28 am
Yup, Godwin is quite upset at Devin for those comments. But Devin is telling the truth
September 19th, 2022 at 12:32 am
They were probably about as angry as the fans who also watched him turn the ball over 111 times in 72 games as a Buccaneer….
America’s Turnover Machine
September 19th, 2022 at 12:35 am
Godwin is wrong to take Winston’s side over his won teammate. Devin seemed pissed that he did as well
September 19th, 2022 at 12:43 am
Despite what a handful of vocal posters here proclaim…Hot Rod Mulch, OneLilBuc, NDong and others…Winny was a malignant tumor in Tampa. He fools people…he has a big arm, some charisma ( although he gets weirder by the day and W eaten ) and stats disguised as fool’s gold. I wanted him to succeed in Tampa but it just didn’t work out. It likely won’t work out in Sewer City either.
September 19th, 2022 at 12:44 am
F Jameis.
September 19th, 2022 at 1:00 am
Is Godwin mad at White for telling the truth about Jameis because he considers JW a friend and wants to protect his feelings or is he mad because he knows JW and the Stains will use those remarks as extra motivation for the rematch at Ray Jay on Dec. 5th?
September 19th, 2022 at 1:01 am
Maybe a little bit of both, huh?
September 19th, 2022 at 1:08 am
Yeah that eating his fingers BS did it for me. I was a BIG TIME supporter of his until he did that. This despite his flaws and personal issues/mistakes. Than we he doubled down on it as a THIRD string QB standing next to the greatness that is/was Drew Breze. I totally started hoping for him to get run out the league.
As far as Chris Godwin goes. Not sure of the context or what he even said. However, I can understand IF it rubbed him the wrong way for DW to clown on his old QB. JW probably got CG paid as much as TB did. So yeah, CG would not like someone dissing his friend.
That being said, they play on opposite sides of the field. SO its only natural they would see things differently. These guys are teammates and really strong PROS. No harm no foul.
September 19th, 2022 at 3:45 am
The Houston game in 2nd to last week of the 2019 season is a Case in point about Jameis pissing off the defense.
The Bucs were down 10-0 and had not even given up a 1st down, I repeat had not even given up a first down and they were down 10-0 because the first 2 possessions Jameis threw 2 picks.
Something also said by Suh when he signed to come back in 2020 was, with Brady they would get more rest, because Brady was not careless with the ball, so there would not be those super quick times of getting off the field after making a stop, only to run right back out there because Jameis throwing another pick.
Jameis first pass in 4 games was intercepted, and another game he threw a pick on the first drive.
Nothing like starting 4 games with a pick on your first pass to get your team mates pissed off at you.
All the people that defended Jameis at the time, were just not thinking about things from a players perspective.
I stated this before in 2020 and a poster here just thought I was nuts, no I am just being honest about what it is like when you are a team mate and someone keeps letting you down.
Sooner or later guys get pissed, about how they bust their tails out there, and you are chucking interceptions like you are throwing out candy at Gasparilla, it will not cut it with the players.
Now what I said 2 years ago about this, is coming out of Devin now. I hope Jameis figures it out and does well, just not against the Bucs.
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 19th, 2022 at 4:16 am
I mean, the only reason we didn’t hear BA say this same exact thing is because he was the figurehead and him saying WHAT WE ALL KNEW in 2019 would’ve cause more waves in the media than Devin White parroting it 2 seasons later. It’s the truth, defense enjoys being able to catch their bearings while the offense moves the ball, the opposing sentiment of the offense wanting the D to get the ball back to provide another opportunity to put point on the board. The complimentary part between those two phases of the game and if your defense is on the field more than your offense, guess what? You’re more likely to be having somebody else’s will being imposed on your team.
September 19th, 2022 at 4:29 am
Your defense is only good as your offense in terms of keeping you rested in not put in bad situations.
September 19th, 2022 at 4:52 am
I told y’all the players like jameis but they knew.
September 19th, 2022 at 4:58 am
In 2019 the Bucs defense was balling. And don’t give me that end of the season crap. Week 1 against the 49ers they set the tone we all know what happened in that game. Of there’s bumps it’s football but the body of work speaks for itself in 2019. That defense even scored more tds in the regular season than the 2002 Bucs. They have been top five in turnovers since 2019. In 2019 with a QBs with less turnovers their in the playoffs easy. The organization knew it!
September 19th, 2022 at 5:08 am
He won’t be the Saints qb next year either. I want him to go to the AFC next year so we don’t have to go through this twice every season. He’s tearing us apart, man!
September 19th, 2022 at 5:46 am
He is who we thought he is; Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde.
The statistics on TOs is unquestionable in terms of win/loss records. And, because football is complementary, TOs tax the defense too. So, understandably, Devin was frustrated.
Godwin probably just doesn’t want the bulletin board stuff.
September 19th, 2022 at 6:01 am
Lol 🤣🤣 yeah the defense was great being ranked 32 in just about every stat . Ok I remember the Seahawks game we was up 21 to 3 and we lost 34 to 38 . It’s been a lot of games this defense gave up . Again he do a lot of talking but his play don’t match up with his talking on the field. Without those 2 sacks he didn’t do nothing out there. He so far he’s not been playing like a top 5 pick .
September 19th, 2022 at 6:02 am
Sure sounds like winning a SuperBowl without JW was not enough for Devin or the defense.
They wanted those interceptions against JW to prove their point.
Thank you Devin and the entire Bucs defense.
September 19th, 2022 at 6:04 am
Bucsfanman … Great take on this; agree 100%.
September 19th, 2022 at 6:26 am
Book reporter relax
September 19th, 2022 at 6:40 am
Oneilbuc, any comments on #3’s play yesterday? See anything that looked familiar? Since you are the QB expert around here, it’d be interesting to hear your thoughts on your boy.
September 19th, 2022 at 6:49 am
Ok Oneilbuc, I will repeat this for you….. I am stating what happened, not an opinion about Jameis.
The Houston game in 2nd to last week of the 2019 season is a Case in point about Jameis pissing off the defense.
The Bucs were down 10-0 and had not even given up a 1st down, I repeat had not even given up a first down and they were down 10-0 because the first 2 possessions Jameis threw 2 picks.
Something also said by Suh when he signed to come back in 2020 was, with Brady they would get more rest, because Brady was not careless with the ball, so there would not be those super quick times of getting off the field after making a stop, only to run right back out there because Jameis throwing another pick.
Jameis first pass in 4 games was intercepted, and another game he threw a pick on the first drive.
Nothing like starting 4 games with a pick on your first pass to get your team mates pissed off at you.
All the people that defended Jameis at the time, were just not thinking about things from a players perspective.
I stated this before in 2020 and a poster here just thought I was nuts, no I am just being honest about what it is like when you are a team mate and someone keeps letting you down.
Sooner or later guys get pissed, about how they bust their tails out there, and you are chucking interceptions like you are throwing out candy at Gasparilla, it will not cut it with the players.
Now what I said 2 years ago about this, is coming out of Devin now. I hope Jameis figures it out and does well, just not against the Bucs.
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 19th, 2022 at 6:51 am
Godwin is probably mad because statements like that come back to haunt you
September 19th, 2022 at 7:12 am
Oneilbuc you will find anything to defend this guy, I just don’t get it bro
September 19th, 2022 at 7:49 am
Winston is not fixable. He’s been saying the same things at the post game press conference in New Orleans he said in Tampa. “I gotta protect the football”
Absolutely nothing has changed. Devin was right, coldblooded but 100% correct.
September 19th, 2022 at 7:51 am
Devin White’s quote was a little surprising but he spoke the truth. Devin White’s statement should SLAM THE DOOR on any absurd discussion by the slack jawed mouth breathers that the defense was the problem in 2019. It wasn’t. The only people who thought the defense was a problem are the Jay-Miss apologists.
That 2019 defense was pretty much the same defense and players that Tom Brady won a Super Bowl with. You know, those same guys that prevented the Chiefs from scoring a touchdown in the grandest stage, the Super Bowl.
The mouth breathers who point to defensive statistics fails to realize that fumbles, interceptions, and pick 6’s completely change the dynamic of the football game. It’s obvious by Devin White’s statement that the 2019 Buccaneers, especially the defense, believed they had more than enough players on that side of the ball to win and make a run. They proved it with Tom Brady.
Andy Dalton will be the eventual starter in NO. Jay-Miss showed yesterday who he’s been his entire career but let me guess, he needs one more year in Dennis Allen’s system.
September 19th, 2022 at 7:58 am
Yo, check yo sheet!
September 19th, 2022 at 8:02 am
I really think it’s the former. My criticisms on Jay-Miss have always been about his on the field play. Going back to the 2018 season there are at least 7 guys I can think of who played with him as part of that lost decade who are still on this team. I would guess most of those guys think very highly of him.
I watched most of that video and Devin White’s statement at the end should shut the door on any controversy. He stated that he’s “on the other team”. His performance yesterday slams the door on any discussion or idea that he’s somehow going to turn it around as a QB. He’ll never be better than what he is.
September 19th, 2022 at 8:02 am
Mike C . Jamies played bad so what I’m not surprised that he had a bad game every quarterback or any other player regardless of the position not going to have a good game every game. That’s first bad game Jamies had since he’s been with that team and it won’t be the last . But it’s amazing to me when Brady has bad games it’s always some one else fault. I told y’all last year against the saints in the first and second game and even against the Rams that ain’t no such thing is the perfect quarterback every player regardless the sport will have bad games. Brady will have bad games this year and it’s cool but to act like Brady played good every game with the bucs is just crazy and it’s a lie . Watch the first bad game Brady have this year you get to response one going to say he should have stayed retired and the others will blame everyone else but him just because he had a bad game 😂😂 .
September 19th, 2022 at 8:12 am
Joe has posted on this Blog in the past about the huge difference in the defensive secondary after Vernon Hargreaves was cut in Nov 2019
And the Bucs Run defense in 2019 was the 4th best since the merger in 1970.
Again, the Bucs run defense was 4th best since the merger in 1970.
The Bucs finished with a top 5 defense in 2019
I had to check the sheets!!!!!!
So when you got guys bustin their tails out there and you as the QB are not carrying your weight, you piss teammates off.
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 19th, 2022 at 8:13 am
Joe has posted on this Blog in the past about the huge difference in the defensive secondary after Vernon Hargreaves was cut in Nov 2019
And the Bucs Run defense in 2019 was the 4th best since the merger in 1970.
Again, the Bucs run defense was 4th best since the merger in 1970.
The Bucs finished with a top 5 defense in 2019
I had to check the sheets!!!!!!
So when you got guys bustin their tails out there and you as the QB are not carrying your weight, you piss teammates off.
gotta keep this real
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 19th, 2022 at 8:13 am
Not Jameis played bad
Jameis IS BAD !
September 19th, 2022 at 8:21 am
WE ALL KNOW Oneilbuc assessment on Jameis.
I ask that we just don’t forget his assessments on BA and Brady.
Oneilbucs Says:
April 25th, 2020 at 2:33 pm
Bruce Arians was the wrong coach . He came not to develop any players and when this is over rather we win or lose we will be the Cardinals . I hope we win but Bruce Arians got to go . We don’t have nothing for the future of this team .
Oneilbucs Says:
March 20th, 2020 at 8:48 am
Man all this Brady stuff is going to hurt us in the next year are 2 . Why don’t yall realize this guy is 43 years old when the season starts . B.A. is destroying this team and yall still don’t see it . What makes yall think that Brady is going to come in here and ball out?
If I see an Oneilbuc post, I go in with a preconceived notion that it is going to be wrong.
I ask you, are there many guys that know less about pro football than Oneilbuc?
September 19th, 2022 at 8:29 am
DUDE Brady is the best QB ever! Your dude is a Turnover machine! How can you be so blind?
September 19th, 2022 at 8:54 am
Geno. And in 4 months yall will be back beginning Brady to please stay or you might be one of those Patriots fans that will be gone. Then we will see about the future because they’re going to have to develop a quarterback because as of right now they’re messing Trask career up as we speak. He hasn’t taken one snap with me starting offense since he been here . Who’s going to be the next victim is the question ❓
September 19th, 2022 at 9:05 am
Oneilbuc, us Buc fans are enjoying the post-#3 years and the winning that’s come with it. Unlike butthurt #3 fans like yourself that just wanna whine about stuff.
September 19th, 2022 at 9:06 am
@GENO
LMAO none of those comments aged well
September 19th, 2022 at 9:24 am
Winston’s problem is a lack of immaturity – The NFL is for mature adults and using your head to win games.
September 19th, 2022 at 10:05 am
Oneilbuc or we pick up Lamar Jackson and are fine, your argument that winning with a superbowl with a qb that your team did not develop is some how lesser is flat out dumb. Brad Johnson was a FA, the Saints super bowl does not count, GB didn’t draft Farve! Ravens didn’t draft dilfer(lol) all of you points are angled to put Jay Miss in the correct light, the worst kind of blind ignorance is on display here.
September 19th, 2022 at 10:07 am
And instead of talking about 4 months from now ,why don’t you talk about those comments about BA? And Brady? Not a good look bro.
September 19th, 2022 at 10:15 am
Winston won’t be starting long there. I imagine fans are already screaming for his head.
Once the Saints fell behind and Jameis had to pass, you just knew the defense would capitalize.
September 19th, 2022 at 10:34 am
Oneilbuc 10 years after Jay Miss is out of the league ” He would have been the greatest ever IF the defense, kicker, coach, fans, owners, refs had just helped him out!!!”
September 19th, 2022 at 10:44 am
I was a HUGE Winston fan. I hated that he couldn’t get it together in Tampa and would’ve been our QB for at least 10-12yrs. Once he went to New Orleans I was like damn he’s gonna get his game together and then be a thorn in our side for the next 10-12yrs I even told friends that he was gong to be the come back player of the year. After yesterday I think he’s going to always be a guy that can give you great games, good games, BUT when he has a bad one it’s REALLY BAD.
Oneilbuc is correct when he says Brady hasn’t played perfectly and no player will BUT your QB can’t be the one that accounts for time after time you losing games. Yes a kicker is going to miss a kick (Matt Gay) but I also grew tired of the roller-coaster that was Winston as the Bucs QB. As for our future I honestly believe we’re doing things correct with Trask I’m not a fan of throwing rookie QBs in their 1st year and if you can get 3yrs behind a great than that’s even better for you and your development. Call me old school in that way but I believe Trask or I hope Trask is going to be a great QB for us once The G.O.A.T hangs up his cleats.
September 19th, 2022 at 12:01 pm
Just one last thing Buc fans; did you recognize that trademark Jameis look? You’d definitely have recognized it if you were a fan during his five-year reign.
The deer in the headlights look!!!
September 19th, 2022 at 12:18 pm
Winston will NEVER change.
How many times in his career have coaches told him to PROTECT THE DAMN BALL11!!!1!!!1?
A bazillion?
Now he’s an 8-year pro. 3 years in college. 4+ years in HS. 15+ years playing QB…and he STILL makes the same mistakes? Still acts the fool? Still says the same things after every loss? “This is on me.” “My fault.” I have to protect the ball.””I have to do better.”
In the words of another guy with dubious success: “C’mon, man!”
And let’s not forget the sideline fight with his coach in the college National Championship game!
Look: he’s not the first chucklehead with a great arm who was a loser everywhere he played. Does anybody remember Jeff George? Now Winston isn’t an a$$wipe like George, but the results are very similar. (BTW: Like ATM, George also had a sideline fight with his head coach.)
There will come a time, very soon, when ATM wears out his welcome with Saint’s fans…and the Saint’s defense. That loss was on Winston, and every member of the Saint’s D knows it.
History repeats itself.
The Saints are hurting at QB…and they know it. There is not enough lipstick to put on that pig.
September 19th, 2022 at 12:21 pm
“Everywhere” as a pro.
I was a big Winston fan for years.
Then he ate his W…and I saw the bewildered look on the faces of his teammates when he did that.
I knew he was done in Tampa.
And so did the D.
White is just saying what the vast majority of players and fans think.
September 19th, 2022 at 6:06 pm
Mike C. Lamar Jackson will be a good sniging for the bucs but I that’s not happening. 1 we don’t have the coaches to put a play book in for him. 2 we don’t have the money.
September 19th, 2022 at 7:24 pm
If Winston thought of the ball as crablegs I’m sure he’d be protecting it pretty good then.
September 22nd, 2022 at 3:52 am
Oneilbuc you are probably wrong, like you were about Brady. And Jaymiss. You have zero cred.