Unofficially Official: Give Up Your Dreams Of Ndamukong Suh Returning
August 17th, 2022
Sure sign of unlikely return.
Joe knows there is one guy who comments regularly on this here site who is bound and determined to get former Bucs star defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh back on the team.
This guy, every comment — sometimes the only word in his many comments — is just Suh’s last name.
Well, folks better start embracing the harsh realities of the NFL. If ever there was a sign that Suh is gone for good from the Bucs (unless he wants to work in football operations) is that Suh’s number is now gone.
Last night the Bucs announced what the world knew: That former Bucs reserve outside linebacker Carl Nassib is returning. More to the point, the Bucs announced Nassib’s number in his second stint with the Bucs.
Nassib will wear No. 93.
You got it, that’s Gerald McCoy’s Suh’s old number with the Bucs.
When Joe asked when the Bucs selected rookie Logan Hall in the second round if that meant the door was shut on a Suh return, Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht claimed the door was always open in case there was an injury.
Well, there was an injury. Reserve outside linebacker Cam Gill had foot surgery yesterday. And look who the Bucs brought back (it wasn’t Jason Pierre-Paul or Suh).
As Joe wrote about JPP, given that teams are starting to shave their rosters and Suh is still unemployed speaks volumes.
August 17th, 2022 at 12:06 am
#8 punching the air right now… Poor guy
August 17th, 2022 at 12:15 am
I would love to see Suh piss off Karen Rodgers one more time
August 17th, 2022 at 12:33 am
As much of a sentimental favorite Nassib has become around these parts…truth be told he was a tremendous bust here in Las Vegas…and would have been cut after one year if not for the PR nightmare that would have ensued.
August 17th, 2022 at 12:33 am
Been over with Suh as soon as they paid another large body Hicks. Wouldn’t be possible to pay them both and Hicks has the ability to get to the QB and collapsing the pocket next next to Vea.
August 17th, 2022 at 12:49 am
Hicks signing should have put all the Suh talk to rest. But the daydreamer still daydream. Loved him when he was here and appreciate all he did. He was the anti McCoy. But as has been said many times already, 31 other teams aren’t busting his door down either. I try to never fall too hard for a player, especially a free agent. Obviously Brady being an exception. But I have trust in the brain trust here. Certainly more than a few fanboys who can’t help but name drop.
August 17th, 2022 at 1:21 am
That’s hilarious that #8 comments so much about Suh that he got the first part of this post dedicated to his relentless comments lol
August 17th, 2022 at 1:55 am
WinnyT is correct. Nassib was a huge bust for the Raiders, and mediocre anyway.
Best seasons with the Bucs benefitted from playing with JPP, Suh, Gerald Mc , etc. Now he’s a committee rotational again, with less talent around him. I fear another season of Shaq getting picked off, other guys struggling with blockers and not getting to the QB down after down again.
It is hard to get past how good any defense would be with prime or even just-past prime JPP and Suh on the roster—and what a loss when both are gone, and it is not replaced with anything close to as good.
Hicks doesn’t replicate prime Suh. I was all for Hicks as part of a set of new veterans, that were available (some for cheap) that the Bucs failed to bring in. Guys like Jerry Hughes and Carlos Dunlap were still there, even a few weeks ago in free agency, and Trey Flowers and Attaochu still are.
August 17th, 2022 at 2:03 am
It should be a tradition to remember and try to replicate the 2002-2003 defense with Spires-McFarland-Sapp and especially Simeon Rice, who had 15-sack seasons. I don’t see this.
Meanwhile, Ravens, Steelers, Giants always recognize and stockpile a certain kind of defensive talent.
August 17th, 2022 at 2:37 am
Once Carl elected himself to be the Gay ambassador for the NFL. His quality of play fell off or his opponents didn’t want to be clowned.
Just stating the obvious.
August 17th, 2022 at 3:58 am
There was a report yesterday in on a Vikings’ website that they really want Suh but that he’s asking too much (they’re currently in worse CAP shape than we are … $7.9 vs $8.2 mil). Supposedly the Raiders are also quite interested, and they do have money to play with ($22.9 mil).
As long as Suh is available, the door back to the Bucs isn’t closed. Nassib getting #93 means about as much as Chris Godwin wearing #12 … UNTIL Tom Brady arrived. Personally don’t think that money is a huge issue (we’re already paying Suh $6.8 mil THIS YEAR in Dead CAP and a new contract would give us a chance to ‘creatively modify’ that).
And for the record, I’m with #8 … Bucs NEED Suh. Oh not right now in Training Camp, but we will. Our ultimate success (or failure) this year will depend upon our ability to ‘hold the line’ & stop teams in the 4th qtr (the same was true in 2020 & 2021 BTW). We’ve already got TWO behemoths to man the interior, but that’s the same as what we had in 2020 … UNTIL Vea went down. We survived that very successfully because of (1) Suh with the help of McLendon coming onboard; and (2) because of COVID (lots of other teams were losing key guys because of that during the season & playoffs, but we actually did VERY well … thanks to BA’s approach). The key then was DEPTH, just like it’ll be this year.
Suh will be in the HOF one day. Money to guys like that represents RESPECT, and he won’t sign for the veteran’s minimum like many have suggested. But IF injuries happen to our interior DLine, and we end up losing games because our defense can’t ‘hold the line’, lots of those very same fans will be screaming ‘Why didn’t we re-sign Suh when we had the chance?’
August 17th, 2022 at 4:53 am
Perhaps if Suh will come off his salary demands the Bucs will sign him for depth. It has been reported that the Vikings were interested but didn’t have enough cap space. As far as Nassib , the Raiders dumped him and I never understood why Bucs fans like this guy. Lousy player with lousy stats. Waste of roster space.
August 17th, 2022 at 5:48 am
Flowers
August 17th, 2022 at 5:52 am
Nassib is replacing Cam Gill, not Lawence Taylor. The reality is he’s a good vet back up, that knows the defense, and players on it. For us as a team, the best of what’s out there. Good signing.
August 17th, 2022 at 6:54 am
Pooh
August 17th, 2022 at 6:54 am
EVERYONE on this board will be missing Suh once Hicks goes down with an injury. Suh has been one of the best investments in Bucs history because he has never missed a game, and despite some of the criticism on this board of his supposed decline (Btw, 6 sacks for interior lineman each of the last 2 seasons), he doesn’t disappear in big games, always stout against the run. Suh gave the line an identity. I hope Hicks turns out to be a significant improvement over what Suh has provided over the last 3 seasons.
He is asking for too much money at his age, and that’s pretty much what this has come down too…I’m bummed we couldn’t retain him, I wanted him to retire a Buc.
August 17th, 2022 at 7:07 am
Suh;)
August 17th, 2022 at 7:21 am
Some people will believe the world is flat not matter the facts.
August 17th, 2022 at 7:25 am
Suh
August 17th, 2022 at 7:31 am
When we drafted Hall, I thought Suh was gone…..when we signed Hicks….I knew Suh was gone.
August 17th, 2022 at 7:42 am
As Hodad said, Nassib is replacing a backup. He will be a fine addition. Still, it’s sad they couldn’t find a place for Suh. Someone will sign him and he doubters will see he still has gas in the tank.
August 17th, 2022 at 7:45 am
It was way overdue for both of them
August 17th, 2022 at 7:58 am
Sorry everyone–early to bed & early riser.
My wife tells me I am hard-headed. so….
Suh.
It ain’t over til its over!! Bring in the 3rd man-beast for rotation!
Joe–seriously made me laugh reading this as the first thing I read this morning. And by laugh, I mean cry.
August 17th, 2022 at 8:08 am
If you think Suh is coming back you might also think Trump tells the truth or that Santa Claus is real.
August 17th, 2022 at 8:52 am
I’d have said it this way:
If you think Suh is coming back, you might also think politicians tell the truth or that Santa is real.
Pewter–if you think only Trump is a charlatan, then you are part of the problem my friend.
Annnnnnd que comments getting stopped.
I do believe in Santa-Gronk. And Suh.
August 17th, 2022 at 8:55 am
Nassib’s value isn’t just his on field ability, it’s also his leadership skills in the locker room/shower area, where he is a real hands-on teacher to other essential skills many young players are lacking.
He’s a born trainer.
August 17th, 2022 at 9:07 am
Please cut someone we got from the falcons an RESIGN NDAMUKONG SUH PERIOD PLEASE.
August 17th, 2022 at 9:13 am
Resign Ndamukong suh.Resign Ndamukong suh.Resign Ndamukong suh.Resign Ndamukong suh.Resign Ndamukong suh.Resign Ndamukong suh. Please
August 17th, 2022 at 9:22 am
My Momma says: Suh getting into Aaron Rodgers head was worth his weight in gold (and two wins).
August 17th, 2022 at 10:35 am
If Hicks, Vea, Gholston or Nacho goes down, and Suh wants to play for backup money, the number issue isn’t an issue. Nassib would just change numbers and plenty will be available as the season closes in. When you have 85 guys there aren’t many spare numbers to go around.
The reason Suh isn’t signed is he’s likely still asking for 8 large for one season. If he were willing to play for 3 large, he’d be on a roster.
August 17th, 2022 at 10:50 am
Defense Rules explained it quite well.
In other un-signed news, the Browns are down two centers and Tretter is still a FA. Maybe there really is something wrong with that guy.
August 17th, 2022 at 11:21 am
Suh can wear a different number or pay Nassib for it. I think he is a grown man who would be able to cope with that.
August 17th, 2022 at 12:34 pm
I always have been a middle of the road guy on Suh once we drafted Logan Hall. Never minded him coming back but always felt that it might not happen.
We can use more depth at every position. These are not 90 player rosters, they are 53 player rosters.
Is our defensive line depth a problem? Not in my opinion.
We have Vea, Hicks, Hall, Gholston, Nunez-Roches, and Pat O’Conner who will all primarily be inside the tackle guys on this Bucs defense. I like that combo better than a lot of teams.
August 17th, 2022 at 2:42 pm
Suh was awesome for us, he’s my daughter’s favorite player, and he deserves to go into the ring of honor (despite it being tainted by the holier than thou glazers, whom like so many other backward a$$ buffoons are trying to erase history) before Gerald. He was fun to watch and I’ll miss him.
August 17th, 2022 at 3:56 pm
Boring!
August 18th, 2022 at 1:16 am
Suh was great, but no way is he ROH material.
Takes a bit more time with the team to be eligible for that.