The Logan Hall Pass Rush
August 22nd, 2022
Logan Hall made his mark up the gut Saturday night.
Joe’s heard lots of Bucs fans moaning about not seeing the Bucs’ top draft pick this season make a play.
Defensive tackle Logan Hall has made plenty in the eyes and minds of Bucs coaches, and one was on display Saturday night against the Titans.
See the screen shot above, Hall beat Titans right guard Jordan Roos cleanly early in the second quarter on a 4th-and-5 play. That’s Hall (No. 90) in the face of quarterback Malik Willis, who had to resort to a sidearm-ish throw to avoid Hall. The throw was nowhere near complete.
Great play by Hall, who is quick for a beastly big man. However, Joe can’t go crazy considering that Roos, an undrafted veteran, has never started an NFL game.
But that’s preseason. You look for small wins and hope they translate to when the competition is top shelf and the pressure is on.
August 22nd, 2022 at 11:24 am
That’s the one play I’ve seen him make in two preseason games.
August 22nd, 2022 at 11:35 am
Hall is as quick off the ball as advertised, but he does need to realize he can’t sacrifice leverage and beat guys with just strength and athleticism like he did at Houston. Also looks like the staff may have told him to chill out with the spin move. Hall’s effectivity should increase once he’s lined up with our starting talent, but he’ll be learning on the fly well beyond his rookie season, but he’s been doing a solid job getting his feet wet.
August 22nd, 2022 at 11:43 am
He looks fine to me, quick, big and surrounded by a Super Bowl caliber team. Coaches and the vets like him he’s just a rookie and it takes a little time.
August 22nd, 2022 at 11:46 am
Even the coaching staff has a hard time drawing conclusions from PS “games “
So much is out of sync on every play compared to how the game is played for real.
August 22nd, 2022 at 11:48 am
Man, I said it before and I’ll say it again. Bucs fans act like we weren’t the worse franchise in American sports just 2.5 short years ago. The expectations of our fanbase is ridiculous. They expect 7th round guys to be all-pro contributors 1st year. 1st and 2nd round guys should be enshrined into Canton right away.
Hall is going to be fine. I was fine with him starting before we got Hicks and I’m really good with him in his current position. The way some folks here critic some and then give other far more terrible players a pass because they like them is just silly!!!
August 22nd, 2022 at 11:52 am
SB~LV
If any player makes a team based off of their preseason game contributions, then that team needs to fire the entire coaching staff. I remember last NBA preseason, the Lakers Talen Horton Tucker was eating everybody alive, including NBA starters. He was playing so hard and nobody else really cared about the outcome. Regular season started and he basically disappeared for 82 games. NFL is the same. Captain plays can have a negative impact, but for most part, guys are typical working on things, even in games, and no real coach takes anything away from them.
August 22nd, 2022 at 11:52 am
Maniac you are far too logical for life in today’s world.
Only instant outrage at all things is acceptable, no matter which side of the street you are on.
August 22nd, 2022 at 11:56 am
Maniac,
Problem is that is in the PAST now, the Jameis Winston, Leeman Bennet, Steve Deberg, Josh Freeman days are in the rearview mirror, now its time to EXPECT the bucs to be in the hunt every year, iof other teams can do it in the NFL, then so can the Bucs. Dont want the bucs to sink back to the Lions and Browns level again
August 22nd, 2022 at 12:06 pm
It’s the O-line I’m most concerned about. Have The GOAT call Marpet.
August 22nd, 2022 at 12:20 pm
I know it’s common knowledge at this point, but defensive tackles are usually slow to develop.
August 22nd, 2022 at 12:41 pm
@Dusthty, I understand that. High standards are fine. However, unrealistic expectations don’t raise your standards, it actually lowers them. I don’t think Mike Tonkin is a great “football” coach, but he’s a great “people” coach who surrounds himself with great football guys. The reason he stays so consistent is his patience with players. People are ready to give up on Darden after 1 year, trashed JTS after 1 year, down talking Hall, etc etc. Dumping on and criticizing players like that is not how you build a sustainable winner. Players have to develop. Our fanbase expectations are beyond anything I have seen in football. It’s just crazy to me considering how bad we’ve been for a long time. In fact, the fact we were bad for so long may be the reason they don’t know how to act.
August 22nd, 2022 at 12:45 pm
@8, I learned early in my coaching career that responding dramatically and emotionally to situations surrounding this game is the absolute biggest detriment to success!
August 22nd, 2022 at 1:04 pm
Buczilla … A DT who used to play for the Bucs named Ndamukong Suh developed pretty quickly as a rookie, scoring 10 sacks, making the Pro Bowl, 1st Team All-Pro and oh ya, Defensive Rookie of the Year back in 2010. Sure would be nice to have someone with those credentials around to teach rookie Hall a trick or 2. As I recall, he did quite a bit of ‘advising’ to Vita Vea & Will Gholston while he was with us. For free too.
August 22nd, 2022 at 1:16 pm
It looks like Suh is holding firm on his $9 million ask. When someone gets injured mid-season I wonder if he’s prorate that or if he’s said to himself “if I can’t get 9 large I’ll just retire.”
I miss him and so will the Bucs. Leadership. Production. Clutch.
August 22nd, 2022 at 1:35 pm
Whether media is correct or not is always in doubt. 9 million seems like too much for a guy Suh who had his career low in solo tackles while still playing over 700 snaps last year. He did some solid things last year but is not the Suh of his 1st or even 8th season.
Personally glad we moved on, if he was looking for 6 million or more from us. Time will tell.
Hope that Hall and Hicks are impactful. Maybe I am dreaming but I think interior defensive line will be a strength
August 22nd, 2022 at 1:54 pm
@Geno711
If you add in the OLBs that can line up inside and how solid our underneath guys on the interior like Nacho, O’Connor, Senat, & Mike Greene have looked in 2 preseason games, it’s not far fetched to think the IDL or our front 7 period can be the engine of our defense. Even Nassib looked like he hit the ground running. Wouldn’t mind seeing a Nassib-Hicks-Vea-Nelly front, just to see how badly they’d demolish an OL for a rep or two.
August 22nd, 2022 at 2:59 pm
Great job finding a Logan Hall highlight, Joe!
Too bad you werent looking for a pic of him being pancaked!
Wouldnt have taken no digging at all.
August 22nd, 2022 at 3:07 pm
If you know anything about football, if you’ve been watching it for any length of time, you know there are two positions where you never ever should expect production from rookies. The defensive line and tight end.
If you’re not an idiot, all you hope to see are flashes, just signs that whoever you picked isn’t a bust.
Yes, occasionally, a rookie might be OK their rookie year, and like once every few years you might have a rookie who is actually productive at one of those positions, but that’s is by far the exception to the rule.
More importantly, I think, is that JTS had a nice night, although it was against nobodies, but he’s looking more comfortable, which is what you want to see.
August 22nd, 2022 at 4:32 pm
Maniac,
I think the issue is we have a lot of new Bucs fans that have no idea who Steve DeBerg is.
August 22nd, 2022 at 10:02 pm
It keeps coming back to the same question: is this an ordinary season, or is this an all-in go-for-broke final Tom Brady Super Bowl campaign?
If the former, sure, mess around. Experiment with rookies, developmentals, set your time horizon forward 2 seasons, set your expectations low, and see what happens.
If the latter, you do not put Brady on the field with ANY newbies or question marks on either side of the ball. Even if you love your own recruiting and scouting so much that every rookie is viewed as a generational instant impact talent, you still refrain from the risk as long as Brady is the priority.
Until they are completely ready, rooks should get situational looks and get incorporated gradually. For their own sake as well as your Tom Brady team.
August 23rd, 2022 at 12:34 am
I saw him flashing to the quarterbacks face twice in the first half from a DT position.
Play of JTS in the first half got me excited. He looks great
August 24th, 2022 at 9:27 am
I thought that was the pass that was intercepted right?