Peter King: Preseason Will Be Kyle Trask Season
August 8th, 2022
Preseason starter?
Should we somehow blame Peter King?
Last Wednesday, the Daylight-Savings-Time-scared, crossword-puzzle-puzzled, Elon-Musk-peeved, Barstool-Sports-triggered, almond-milk-sipping, hot-dog-eating-contest-protesting, mock-draft-scowling, L.L.-Bean-wearing, tennis fans’ advocate, Second Amendment abolitionist, Mike-Florio-arguing, parrot-insensitive, chewing-with-his-mouth-open, soup-gulping, California-train-romancing, anti-football proliferation, outhouse-admiring, airline-napping, steerage-flying, Yogi Berra-worshiping, urinal-picture-taking, video-game-playing, Taylor-Swift-listening, pickpocket-thwarting, Bucs-uniform-frowning, Allie LaForce-smitten, Big-Ten-Network-hating, pedestrian-bumping, olive oil-lapping, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, craft-beer-chugging, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, college football-naïve, baseball-box-score-reading, NPR-honk, filthy-hotel-staying, fight-instigating, barista-training, Budweiser-tolerant, baseball-scorecard-keeping, pasta-feasting, vomit-dodging scrooge, Kay-Adams-following, Coors-Light-souring, pineapple-upside-down-cake-eating social activist and NFL insider of NBC Sports fame, Peter King, arrived at Bucs training camp for his annual drive-by visit.
At practice that day, Bucs coach Todd Bowles gave the Bucs a break and had an underwear football session in the Glazer Shed. Bucs backup quarterback Kyle Trask hasn’t been the same since.
That practice began a four-practice stretch where Trask went from possibly pushing Blaine Gabbert for a second-string gig to looking like he may be no Ryan Griffin. It’s been a stunning and sad if not disturbing spiral for the former Gators star.
King watched the practice sitting maybe 10 feet from Joe before bolting a couple of hours later. So he didn’t see the aftermath.
However, King, as he does each year, is brought into the bowels of One Buc Palace where he has private sitdowns with Bucs players and shot-callers. So this intel Joe is convinced is accurate.
Trask, types King, will get the majority of QB snaps this preseason.
I think I feel pretty confident about this preseason opinion: Kyle Trask will play the most snaps of any quarterback on the Bucs. Tampa wants to see what it has in the second-year second-rounder, and there’s no time like meaningless August games to do so.
The next three weeks could make or break Trask’s days with the Bucs.
After watching Trask meltdown this past week, it is very difficult for Joe to believe Trask is your starting quarterback next season. And the way he is gagging, Gabbert has the backup job locked up. While Trask is pointing way down, Gabbert has actually thrown the ball better the past few days.
A second-year quarterback in the same offense with the same coaches should not be regressing, certainly not this badly. After watching Trask run from the pocket on three straight plays yesterday in a practice period following one of the most ghastly picks-sixes you will ever witness (from Trask’s arm), Joe is certain Trask is rattled.
For Trask to start next year — assuming Tom Brady is gone — Trask would have to make substantial improvements. A good preseason could save Trask’s career with the Bucs. A bad preseason and continued rotten practices, he could be unemployed in a month.
So yeah, it makes sense to Joe for the Bucs to throw Trask in the deep end of the pool the next three weeks and see if he can swim.
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August 8th, 2022 at 4:05 am
Practice? are we talking about practice lol… cnt wait for Trask to play decent preseason football to hush Joe up lol..
GoBucs!
August 8th, 2022 at 4:33 am
C’mon you should have learned with Ronald Jones. But I’m not surprised
August 8th, 2022 at 4:51 am
I don’t believe Peter King chugs craft beer, bc there’s no link to that claim! 🤪
August 8th, 2022 at 5:05 am
Its is put up or shut up time for Trask.
TB12 will be leaving after this season or by some miracle 1 more year.
So the Bucs need a QB, for the time is soon coming.
A lot of comments have been made by posters since the moment Trask was drafted, but no one actually knows if this guy can cut it at the NFL level.
I hope he can, it would solve the QB riddle that the QB position is after Brady leaves.
But as of right now, nothing is solved.
GO BUCS!!!!!
August 8th, 2022 at 5:18 am
Yup, time to find out what we have.
August 8th, 2022 at 5:32 am
We talking about practice!!! Maybe Trask just doesn’t play well until the lights come on. He had to sit at the gators and didn’t shine until he actually played in a real game.
August 8th, 2022 at 6:08 am
Maybe Trask needs to be in a more controlled scheme like New England or SF. I wonder how Mac Jones would do down here. Btw read that Jones is having a tough camp thus far.
August 8th, 2022 at 6:09 am
‘The next three weeks could make or break Trask’s days with the Bucs.’
Undoubtedly it will be. Not a big believer in any QB not ‘playing well until the lights come on in the actual games’. Doubt that Tom Brady is either. That might work in college for a few, but not in the pros.
Personally I’m rooting for him because the Bucs NEED him to succeed. We don’t have the $$$ to buy a top-quality starting QB, and we don’t draft high enough to get one of the better ones in the draft. Gabbert & Griffin aren’t the answer long-term, so here’s HOPING that Trask can get his act together this summer.
August 8th, 2022 at 6:36 am
There is No hope in football
But I sure hope Trask works out as the future QB
August 8th, 2022 at 6:37 am
Leighroy, do you mean the “circle jerking” does have a link?!? 😳
August 8th, 2022 at 6:42 am
Hard to believe we have the best QB ever….. and we do not have a viable long term back up ??
August 8th, 2022 at 6:46 am
“A second-year quarterback in the same offense”
There you go again. Falsely suggesting he has a year of playing experience. He has none. He’s basically a rookie.
August 8th, 2022 at 6:56 am
Jason Licht completely and utterly failed miserably with this Trask (Trash) pic. A valuable 2nd rd pic flushed down the toilet. He’s made some great pics in the past but when he misses he misses big.
August 8th, 2022 at 6:59 am
I think that’s the smart move by the Bucs. Since Tom is most likely gone after this year, we need to see if we have the next starter on the team or if we need to find one. Cuz, I do not see Gabbert as our next starter. Or at least, I sure as hell hope he is not our next starter. Stewart McClown 2.0.
August 8th, 2022 at 7:01 am
Joe, why don’t you do a statistical comparison from your practice notes of all the quarterbacks? Yes, it wouldn’t be perfect, but better than your subjective commentary after each Trask (and only Trask) miscue.
Completions – Attempts – TDs – INTs.
Of course, that would require accurate notes on Brady miscues too, but those likely weren’t fully noted.
August 8th, 2022 at 7:01 am
*Josh McClown…not sure where I came up with Stewart
August 8th, 2022 at 7:12 am
Defense you said it perfectly. I’m rooting for him too. We need him to get better. He’s got all season to keep working at it.
August 8th, 2022 at 7:14 am
I’ve just about given up on that guy
August 8th, 2022 at 7:28 am
I don’t doubt Joe’s evaluation of Trask’s performance at TC……but it is entirely possible he can have a few bad days and still turn it around.
August 8th, 2022 at 7:33 am
Like i said after last preseason, i didnt like what i was seeing….we’ll be qb shopping or drafting one in the first…id like will levis but thats gonna cost us trading up….could be worth it though.
August 8th, 2022 at 7:42 am
Sounds like more reps, the more we find out how big of a mixed bag Trask is at this point in his development. Should benefit just as much if not more from the joint practices than he would just getting a few series per preseason game, especially with 1 less game this year. Still way too early to right the book on the kid.
August 8th, 2022 at 7:51 am
It’s not just about reps. It has to be reps with the first team. Putting him out there with insurance salesmen – after Gabbert and Brady are done playing with the first team – won’t tell us much.
August 8th, 2022 at 7:53 am
It’s not just about reps. It has to be reps with the first team. Putting him out there with insurance salesmen – after Gabbert and Brady are done playing with the first team – won’t tell us much.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:00 am
“A second-year quarterback in the same offense”
Sounds to me like he’s just suggesting that he’s been learning the same offense for two years. Doesn’t say anything about playing time.
On a side note – is it just me or does Trask look a bit like Trent Dilfer?
August 8th, 2022 at 8:00 am
The Boston Herald has been reporting on 2021 first round pick QB Mac Jones’ 2 bad days of training camp. And Jones actually took every snap for the Patriots last season. Guess he’s a bust too and Belichick needs to dump him.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:03 am
“Tim Says:
“A second-year quarterback in the same offense”
Sounds to me like he’s just suggesting that he’s been learning the same offense for two years”
Mac Jones is a second year quarterback in the same offense (and he’s had a few bad practices). Kyle Trask is not.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:09 am
@IrishTony interesting point and there may be some merit to what you write. The Bucs offense has weapons but it’s very pass happy. And you can’t just dink and dunk in this offense either. Also no dominant run game for a rookie to just rely on as he eases his way into the league. So his arm and scheme reading is heavily relied upon and tested immediately in this offense. This offense isn’t the most qb friendly; especially for younger, more inexperienced quarterbacks… No training wheels in this offense…
August 8th, 2022 at 8:18 am
I think Trask took a nasty camp dump before Joe went in and didn’t flush !!!
August 8th, 2022 at 8:18 am
He’s playing for a franchise that never developed a quarterback. And a coaching staff that has never develop a quarterback either. Andy Reid is the real quarterback whisper because every quarterback he drafted he developed them into good quarterbacks. Kyle Trask will fail just like every quarterback the bucs drafted. And what makes it even worse he had a chance to learn behind a hall of fame quarterback for 2 years and they still don’t have clue how to develop a quarterback lol 😆 🤣. I hope the bucs don’t draft no more quarterbacks because they’re going to ruin those young guys career.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:19 am
Boston media has been reporting that the Patriots’ 2021 first round pick QB Mac Jones has been struggling in training camp. Jones is a true “second-year quarterback in the same offense”, having played every snap in the Patriots’ 2021 season. Guess he’s a bust too and the Patriots need to dump him.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:21 am
The Patriots’ 2021 first round pick QB Mac Jones out of Alabama has been struggling in training camp too. Jones is a true “second-year quarterback in the same offense”, having played every snap in the Patriots’ 2021 season. Guess he’s a bust too and needs to be dumped.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:32 am
It was a bad pick, but there are a large percentage of bad picks in the draft.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:47 am
Is he simply inaccurate, like Carson Wentz?
Is it unfamiliarity with the receivers?
Can he not grasp the playbook?
Can he not read defenses?
Some of those things can be fixed, some cannot
August 8th, 2022 at 8:52 am
Oneilbuc….He’s playing for a franchise that never developed a quarterback.
As I stated before in a post, Doug Williams was drafted and developed in Tampa.
It was because an owner that would not pay Doug market Value, and the fact of Doug’s wife dying, that Doug left to join the Oklahoma Outlaws of the USFL.
{Oklahoma Owner Bill Tatum said ‘I think we’ve acquired the best quarterback in professional football,’
Williams, who spent five years at Tampa Bay, said he as ‘no hard feelings’ toward the team, although the Bucs met his request for $875,000 a year with an offer of $400,000.
Terms of his Outlaws contract were not disclosed but Williams said the USFL team owners beat Tampa Bay’s offer. He also is said to have received a $250,000 bonus for signing with the Outlaws.}
If Culverhouse would have paid Doug Market Value, he would never have left.
So the Bucs did develop a QB.
But the Bucs like most NFL teams, it is just not common, to see NFL teams develop a QB, as evidenced by the 1,000’s of players have been either drafted or signed as free agents to be a QB in history of the league since September 17, 1920,
Very few of that number have ever been developed into a really good QB and even less have developed into a great QB.
Hopefully Trask can actually become something, as of now know can say with certainty what Trask will do, because we have never seen him play 1 snap in a real NFL game, not a preseason game. I do not care who it is that plays QB for the Bucs, all that matters to me, is find one, Trask or someone else.
GO BUCS!!!!!
August 8th, 2022 at 8:53 am
@DR: Gabbert *could* be the ~short-term~ solution if Trask poops the bed.
No need for panic. Yet.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:56 am
The best part of every season is theres always a couple starting caliber quarterbacks available in free agency
August 8th, 2022 at 8:58 am
Apparently RoJo is not doing well in KC
August 8th, 2022 at 8:59 am
Well there goes old Debbie Downer , Hater Joe , doing his thing again, crucifying anyone who would dare have the temerity to suggest that maybe We should take a look at the object of Joe’s hate , Kyle Trask, in game situations! I guess Tom Brady was really lucky that the hate man wasn’t in New England when Tom came up as a lowly sixth round draft choice ,who had not been a full time starter at Michigan , and had to sit as the backup to Drew Bledsoe , the Patriots reigning hundred million dollar quarterback before getting hurt and Tom had to come in and play, ( Tom lost that game by the way),with all those negatives to work with ,can you imagine the hate that would have flowed from Joe’s pen then! Yes, it’s a good thing for football Joe wasn’t there. So maybe , just maybe, We should take Peter Kings advice and watch what Kyle does in a few games , who knows what will happen , nobody! Until he gets his chance.
August 8th, 2022 at 9:00 am
Ummmm…take a look at Doug Williams’ numbers in Tampa and tell me exactly who and how he developed here.
August 8th, 2022 at 9:02 am
If needed, I think after his time with the Bucs and Brady, that Gabbert can be at least as good as Jared Goff was when he was with the Rams.
If everything else is good — a playoff team. If other things not quite as good, a 9-7 team. Kinda like what New Orleans might be this year with their QB.
August 8th, 2022 at 9:23 am
Trask looked way better than Griffin in preseason games last year. It’s surprising to read that he’s struggling this year.
I have a gut feeling he’ll look good in this year’s preseason games. Maybe he’s one of those QBs that look like crap in practice and play well when the lights come on.
August 8th, 2022 at 9:30 am
Scotty…the Bucs went to the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years Doug was the QB.
He was a winner, and the team followed him.
When he left the Bucs, the team totally disintegrated and it began the first lost decade for the team.
He went to the USFL until it folded then back to the NFL and won a Super Bowl with Washington, Doug threw 4 TD’s of the 35 points in the 2nd Qtr that Doug led the offense to score and win the MVP.
The Bucs were a run first team, because that the way John Mackay wanted his offense to be.
Doug would have had ridiculous numbers in today’s NFL. I think about the Playoff game against the Eagles in 1979, the first playoff game the Bucs ever played.
Doug’s stats were something 4 of 9 for the first half. That just shows what a different offense that was played back in the day for John Mackay.
Back in the day, Doug was basically everything for the team at that time. As the Bucs Radio guy at the time Mark Champion would say “And there goes the franchise” while making the call as Doug was executing a play, either throwing or running.
So yes Doug was developed in Tampa. The Bucs had won 2 games in their first 2 years. They Draft Doug in 1978, and in 1979 Doug had the Bucs in the Playoffs, and in 81-82, before leaving to go to the USFL.
August 8th, 2022 at 9:31 am
Preseason should help determine if Trask is an NFL caliber QB which I doubt and hope I’m wrong. Why Licht drafted a QB from UF in the 2nd round is beyond me . UF does not produce NFL quality QBs. It looks like the Bucs will be in the same situation again when Brady does actually retire. They are probably going to need to try to trade for a quality veteran.
August 8th, 2022 at 9:48 am
“Buc4evr Says: UF does not produce NFL quality QBs.”
Rex Grossman. Steve Spurrier.
By your logic Brett Favre was not NFL quality because he came from Southern Miss, right?
Dumb.
August 8th, 2022 at 10:02 am
Mebbe NFL quality backup QB’s
August 8th, 2022 at 10:06 am
It is practice jesus!!! If we stood behind Jameis for all these years let’s give the guy a chance! For the most part it is a FSU vs UF thing. So Trey lance, Lawrence, and Mac Jones struggled this years camp let’s dump them right? 🤦🏽♂️
Let’s not forget how horrible Manning was his early years they should of dumped him right?
August 8th, 2022 at 10:06 am
Responding to those that likely were not even born when Doug played for the Bucs is a Fools errand August. I was fortunate to know some folks that were plugged in to the organization and Doug and his agent were told during his rookie contract negotiation with with Herr Krueger that the Bucs envisioned Doug holding a clipboard for a few years to gain the seasoning that was required to be a starter in the NFL, however when Doug went to the first practice and got to the sidelines holding a clipboard , McKay quickly barked ” Williams-put down that clipboard and get in there “. Doug was the franchise.
August 8th, 2022 at 10:16 am
Joe is just calling them as he sees them. It’s crazy how people cannot separate editorial from facts. The fact is that Trask is performing poorly in camp.
I hated the pick, and was outspoken on draft night. The Trask pick stank strategically (Super Bowl windows don’t last long) and it stank tactically (Trask looked like a tail-end 3rd rounder to mid 4th rounder). Nevertheless, I want Trask to succeed. But sugar-coating a poor performance? You’re judging Trask on your heart and not your head.
If Peter King is right, there will be ample opportunity to see how Trask performs. I’m sure his defenders will mention that he’ll be throwing to second-team receivers, but then he’ll also be working against second-string defenses as well. The key challenge to Trask, at least in my mind, is how quickly he can read the defense and how quickly he can get rid of that ball. Meeting this challenge will speak volumes on Trask’s future in Tampa Bay and the NFL as a whole.
August 8th, 2022 at 10:30 am
BucBoy – you’re seriously trotting out Spurrier and Grossman as examples of NFL quarterbacks?
ROTFLMAO!
Spurrier couldn’t get off the bench behind John Brody and it’s hilarious you would pick him.
Grossman showed some promise but turned to suck just like every Gator QB does in the NFL.
The morons are out in this thread, OSqueel telling y’all jokes and BucBoy sounding like an ignorant four year old girl.
August 8th, 2022 at 10:38 am
Your right BucsFanSince1976 lol about it being a fools errand lol, but in the end, just giving Doug some due respect, stating how it was for the Bucs with “The Franchise” Doug Williams during his time in Tampa.
GO BUCS!!!!
August 8th, 2022 at 11:04 am
Goatass,
Rex Grossman played 9 seasons in the NFL.
Rex Grossman took the Bears to the Super Bowl. Fewer that 40 players in history can say that. Only 1 player on the Bucs roster can say that, and he’s not really a Buc, he’s just a short-term hired gun (ask Dolphins).
Steve Spurrier played 10 seasons in the NFL.
The average carrer length of NFL quarterbacks is 4.44 years.
9 > 4.44
10> 4.44
You’re a moron. LMAO.
August 8th, 2022 at 11:04 am
I about cried when they cut Doug loose–he was the heart and soul of the team. He had that THING, like Brady–if he’s on the field his teammates believe they can win.
We traded a #1 or a 2 for Jack Thompson, “the Throwin Samoan” (Bengals knew he couldn’t play, we found out later) They turned that pick into Chris Collinsworth. We next spent #2 on Steve Deberg, a serviceable player, but not a franchise qb. We finally spent an overall #1 on Vinny….. THAT didn’t work out. Then spent a #1 on Trent Dilfer…sigh . Doug could have been our QB thru all those years
August 8th, 2022 at 11:10 am
Cobraboy … ‘Gabbert *could* be the ~short-term~ solution if Trask poops the bed’.
I agree that Gabbert COULD be the short-term answer Cobra, but I wouldn’t be expecting to win any Super Bowls with him at the helm. Matter of fact, I doubt seriously we could make the playoffs in 2023 or 2024 with him at QB (we’ll be losing a number of other key players due to $$$ when Brady leaves).
QBs like Gabbert (and Trask) can do OK I think IF they have a very strong team behind them. Part of that is a strong defense, but I think it also takes a strong running game to keep the pressure off. I look at Buffalo’s Josh Allen and his first 2 years were nothing to brag about. In his rookie year (2018) he only threw for 52.8% completion percentage & had a sizable (3.8%) INT percentage. Improved some in 2019 (58.8% completion percentage) and halved his INT percentage. It wasn’t until 2020 that he REALLY took off (69.2% completions). I’m betting that the Bills are glad they hung in there with him.
PERHAPS Trask would follow a similar progression. Or not.
August 8th, 2022 at 11:37 am
“Mike Giardi (NFL Network)
Mac Jones had some moments of uncertainty a yr ago in training camp but not nearly as many as you would expect for a rook. This summer? Far more. Yes, it is early August. There’s time. However, the install started back in the spring & you’d like more comfort & success. #Patriots
9:46 AM · Aug 6, 2022”
I guess they gotta get rid of Mac Jones, huh?
August 8th, 2022 at 11:41 am
Gator fan here who is completely unbiased once those guys graduate or move on. Tebow a great example. I got mauled by fellow gator fans for saying Tebow was not an NFL QB. Trask’s story at UF started pretty much the same as it has here. Not very good until he was suddenly very good. Hard to explain and was hard to say predraft if Trask simply benefitted from elite skill position players on that UF offense or if he was the catalyst himself, but those guys basically scored at will most of the time against some very good SEC defenses. Trask looking bad at camp is no surprise at all, but if he came out and played a great preseason it wouldn’t surprise either. I’m rooting for the guy and the Gator fan in me can only acknowledge that he’s pulled himself out of similar holes before. So I guess we’ll see.
August 8th, 2022 at 2:20 pm
Trask is going to do great during the preseason. Bucs fans will be clamoring for him to take Brady’s place. Watch!! Go Gators!!
August 8th, 2022 at 5:54 pm
Man, I had high hopes for this kid and the recent articles regarding him are pretty damn bleak. Hopefully, he pulls his head out of his butt and kicks a$$ in our preseason games.
August 8th, 2022 at 6:43 pm
I think Trask is overthinking things and stressing himself out. Maybe he needs to relax with a good massage. Call DeShaun Watson, I think he knows somebody.
August 8th, 2022 at 8:17 pm
I’m pretty sure there is a psychological element to this. He cannot be this bad. The Bucs had a highlight they posted of Trask throwing a pick. The intent was to showcase the Buc defense, but then they deleted it after people made fun of the wobbly, wounded-duck pass by Trask. It seemed to be a communication problem; there wasn’t a receiver anywhere near where Trask threw that pass.
It’s on twitter. The suffix is /eric_crocker/status/1556333180050821120
August 8th, 2022 at 9:25 pm
“He cannot be this bad.” Actually he can. And is.
August 8th, 2022 at 10:07 pm
Three practices doesn’t make a career. Ask Terry Bradshaw.
August 9th, 2022 at 12:45 am
Many of bad qb’s actually have good practices. The great qb’s have good games and when lights come on. He is practicing with players whom will not be playing for NFL when season starts. Trask played with third and fourth string players last pre-season also. Trask knows no matter how well he plays in the training camp Gabbert be qb2. That is not a real confidence builder for a young qb who has never played in real nfl game. Trask will shine as always.
August 9th, 2022 at 2:07 am
I watched every home game when Williams was here and I thought he stunk. He’d get nudged and go out of play because he was “injured”. I will never think he was any good, and we also had some of the worst kickers ever during that time. Due to our history, I will agree with those who say we never developed a QB, and I have tons of reservations about Trask, but I hope he proves me (us) wrong. Because he was cheap, I bet the Bucs keep him no matter what.
August 9th, 2022 at 8:17 am
…and with the QB whisperer still on staff?
August 9th, 2022 at 11:26 am
Cricket, say whatever, but Doug was 1 of only 4 QB’s thier in their first 4 years to throw for 10,000 yards in the history of the NFL at that time. And he did it with several games to go that season. So say whatever, but the “Franchise” Doug Williams was the first QB developed in Tampa.
GO BUCS!!!!