Pass-Rusher Shopping Seems Imminent
August 15th, 2022
Edge rusher Cam Gill is injured.
[UPDATE: 7:54 PM]
And just like that, Bucs sign Carl Nassib.
Joe has no doubt that GM Jason Licht and his team won’t risk being short of experienced pass rushers on opening day.
Head coach Todd Bowles shared today that outside linebacker/special teamer Cam Gill has a Lisfranc injury, apparently suffered Saturday night in the preseason opener, a game in which Gill had a sack and played well. And Joe will add that those foot injuries are typically significant. That’s what messed up Lavonte David’s season last year.
So is Cam Gill a major loss? Well, he’s the No. 4 edge rusher on the depth chart, which means he was set up to get real action and, potentially, was one injury from a major role.
Gill is in his third season and had a half-sack in the Bucs’ Super Bowl win, and then became the key figure in one of the funnier stories in Bucs on-field history.
Now Licht and Bowles have a decision to make. Former Bucs defensive captain (2019) Carl Nassib is still on the street and the Bucs have cap room.
Carl Nassib, 29, returns to the Bucs after two shaky seasons with the Raiders. Nassib had 6 1/2 sacks in Tampa in 2018, and then 6 in 2019, the first year of the Todd Bowles defense in pewter and red. Nassib cashed in with Las Vegas after that season.
August 15th, 2022 at 4:38 pm
Sign carl nicks
August 15th, 2022 at 4:41 pm
Wasn’t Carl Nicks a Guard?
August 15th, 2022 at 4:43 pm
Suppose you meant Carl Nassib… 🙂
August 15th, 2022 at 4:44 pm
flowers?
August 15th, 2022 at 4:45 pm
Carl Nicks?? Hahaha. Joe needs some more rest after a short weekend.
Carl Nassib.
Carl Nicks last played for the Bucs in 2013.
August 15th, 2022 at 4:46 pm
They like the next guy too, Elijah Ponder… I doubt they’ll be making moves for a guy to replace their #4 OLB if Ponder is coming on. Or maybe they forcefeed Andre Anthony to see if he can be counted on.
August 15th, 2022 at 4:47 pm
Bummer he was looking solid. I was hopeful he was ready to break through after having several outings last season…
Nassib would be a decent depth signing at OLB. Keep Gill on IR until week 6-8…
August 15th, 2022 at 4:47 pm
Carl Nicks………..lolol
August 15th, 2022 at 4:51 pm
There used to be a commenter named “Carl Nicks Toe”
August 15th, 2022 at 4:52 pm
Yeah, seems like Nassib would be a no brainer at this point. Before the Gill injury I’d have argued that we stay put. Gill was coming on, and as the 4th guy in the rotation that’s sufficient. But yeah, lisfranc is a season long injury, even if you make it back to the field you’re still limited.
Nassib knows the system (improved tremendously within it), is a known locker room/character guy, and quite likely is an upgrade.
Sucks for Cam, he worked hard to get a chance.
August 15th, 2022 at 4:54 pm
I still have a bad toe and played guard but screw it, I can come off the edge!
August 15th, 2022 at 4:56 pm
Used to turn off pre existing injuries in Madden to get a beastly Carl Knicks on my Bucs franchise mode to help with the atrocious offensive line. What a time.
August 15th, 2022 at 4:58 pm
Thanks for the MRSA flashback. Lol.
August 15th, 2022 at 5:15 pm
Carl Nassib identifies as Carl Nicks now, so quit dead naming, haters.
August 15th, 2022 at 5:27 pm
There’s a new poster on here called Carl Nassib’s Butthole……. not sure if it’s the same guy though…..
August 15th, 2022 at 5:50 pm
Our players are dropping like flies. What is going on with this. Just in practice. When the real games start we will have to bring in Hawkeye and Trapper and set up a MASH tent with Radar running the roster. Klinger can run the cheering section.
August 15th, 2022 at 5:58 pm
Carl Nassib – YES!!!
August 15th, 2022 at 6:02 pm
Hell no to nassib
August 15th, 2022 at 6:03 pm
Flowers suh jpp..in that order
August 15th, 2022 at 6:04 pm
Lawrence Tynes would have made the game winning kick Saturday night 1 footed.
August 15th, 2022 at 6:06 pm
Donald Igwebuike never missed a kick inside of 37 yards.
August 15th, 2022 at 6:12 pm
Nassib?
Robert Quinn?
August 15th, 2022 at 6:25 pm
Licht will find the right guy
August 15th, 2022 at 6:27 pm
Nassib should been signed a while ago.
August 15th, 2022 at 6:28 pm
Too bad for Gil. He played well in the game vs Miami (as did Nelson) and was likely on his way to some significant snaps this year if not for the injury.
Gil will go on IR and I’m sure the Bucs will be looking for a suitable if not upgraded replacement.
Seemed like Ira was hinting at (without being able to “report” or give details) the Bucs signing a pass rusher soon – but that was on a podcast like 2 weeks ago…
August 15th, 2022 at 6:29 pm
This is about the time JL and crew find a gem we didn’t even consider…
August 15th, 2022 at 6:33 pm
Such is not an edge rusher and JPP was not resigned when we had a chance. It won’t be them.
August 15th, 2022 at 6:37 pm
From 2021, Flowers Lions edge rusher Trey Flowers ruled out for 11th time in 13 games. Sounds like we can really count on him.
August 15th, 2022 at 6:58 pm
Nassib (ie Nicks) has just been signed, according to The Athletic.
August 15th, 2022 at 7:02 pm
I think there’s some vets that become available in another week or so….if we run with the young guy at kicker, maybe we make another splash before the season.
August 15th, 2022 at 7:05 pm
Carl is back!
August 15th, 2022 at 7:10 pm
Never understood Nassib. He earned a number of awards in college, has the size and athleticism, just haven’t seen him take it to the next level. Maybe Bowles and his staff can coach him up. He just turned 29 in April.
August 15th, 2022 at 7:12 pm
Joe, tell me why the Bucs wouldn’t give JPP a shot? He knows the defense and with a repaired shoulder could provide the presence the Bucs need. Even with a bad shoulder he still seemed to play the run well, he just couldn’t get after the passer like he used to. Maybe he doesn’t want to play for the Bucs anymore or maybe the Bucs worked him out and didn’t like what they saw. It couldn’t hurt to give him a look and maybe he could give them valuable productive minutes.
August 15th, 2022 at 7:14 pm
Bucs just signed Stevie Nicks
August 15th, 2022 at 7:19 pm
We just signed Carl N… Great Move…
August 15th, 2022 at 7:21 pm
Well Nassib is another Nealon. We drafted Nelson as he was most like Nassib physically so this was a good move.
August 15th, 2022 at 7:22 pm
Nice!
August 15th, 2022 at 7:29 pm
Nassib is great depth. Smart move by Licht.
August 15th, 2022 at 7:30 pm
Flowers, Flowers and more Flowers. If this off-season has shown us anything, it’s that Mr. Licht isn’t afraid of injury riddled vets. Flowers is under 30, and has had some tough luck in the injury department. What can it hurt? BTW I was pissed he didn’t go after Dunlap. Who knows, maybe they can swing a trade with a 0-4 dumpster fire.
August 15th, 2022 at 7:34 pm
@Doosh – OUCH ! Too damn funny
August 15th, 2022 at 7:35 pm
Good job signing Nassib! Thank you, Mr. Licht!
August 15th, 2022 at 7:42 pm
Hot Carl it is…meh.
August 15th, 2022 at 8:01 pm
Hopefully it’s not a locker room distraction now that it’s out
August 15th, 2022 at 8:03 pm
Great pickup!
He’s hungry for a ring, and nobody cares about his orientation.
He’s a proven teammate and produced for us.
Go Bucs!
August 15th, 2022 at 8:16 pm
Painful and slow to heal injury.
Good move assuming Nassib is the same player before he left.
August 15th, 2022 at 8:20 pm
Don’t remember much about the player. It seems like Licht is throwing poo against the wall, and hoping something sticks. I’m all for that philosophy. One of these guys actually might surprise
August 15th, 2022 at 8:36 pm
GOB Says:
Don’t remember much about the player
Because you weren’t watching the Bucs when Nassib was here – because you aren’t a Bucs fan….
August 15th, 2022 at 8:37 pm
Mike
He’s much more than great depth. Watch how Shaq becomes more consistent. Like he was when a certain Carl was here before! Welcome back Carl and welcome out. We missed your coming out party. Way to be yourself!
August 15th, 2022 at 8:41 pm
Now just have to sign Tretter.
August 15th, 2022 at 8:45 pm
Lisfranc.. yeah… bad deal. Just hope everything still lines up and it isn’t too bad.. maybe just healing and not requiring surgery, hopefully. Pins, plates, and screws put into one’s foot to line things up again… no picnic. Anyone ever having this injury, even the lesser injury just has to wince.
August 15th, 2022 at 8:47 pm
SB…painful to say the least. The stability of the foot can be at risk.
August 15th, 2022 at 8:57 pm
What the Fock is going on???? We just signed a COMPLETELY unknown RB from Miami.
Who the F is Patrick Laird? He can’t rush the passer can he?
August 15th, 2022 at 9:04 pm
Suh
August 15th, 2022 at 9:06 pm
Gill was about to burst, and then gets a Lizfranc. Nassib was good when here then got paid and never did as well with Raiders. So we’ll see but, DEPTH.
Suh.
August 15th, 2022 at 9:11 pm
Sb
Barner put on IR. And Gio injured ankle. So need extra back for carries in meaningless preseason with 2’s and 3’s
August 15th, 2022 at 9:11 pm
Pooh
August 15th, 2022 at 9:14 pm
LakelandSteve Says:
August 15th, 2022 at 7:12 pm
Joe, tell me why the Bucs wouldn’t give JPP a shot?
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I’m going to guess pay is the issue, not sure JPP is going to play for league min.
August 15th, 2022 at 9:14 pm
DooDooDouche <- My biggest fan! God bless.
August 15th, 2022 at 9:32 pm
Don’t support this
August 15th, 2022 at 9:35 pm
Awesome! Nassib is a solid player.
August 15th, 2022 at 9:38 pm
Speedy recovery to porno gil
August 15th, 2022 at 9:43 pm
They already signed Nassib. He’s a known quantity, but not a great pass rusher at all. Only 22 total, low single digits each season except one outlier with Bucs, 6.5. Never got 10 sacks, and won’t. The pass rush is significantly downgraded with unknowns and middlings like Nassib.
It’s so late in free agency that there are few good ones left. J. Attauchou, Trey Flowers would have been far better, and begging JPP to take a pay cut would have been better than Carl. He’s JAG, a camp body.
August 15th, 2022 at 9:48 pm
Yep. Jason Licht screwing up again, getting a guy he knows, the team knows, and who has produced for the team, allowed the Raiders overpay for him, now has him back home for less than he would have cost to stay in the first place, what a bonehead that Jason Licht is.
August 15th, 2022 at 10:00 pm
Suh and JPP if healthy. Never was impressed with Nassib, but the Bucs probably got him for the veteran minimum?
August 15th, 2022 at 10:01 pm
Good move to bring in a relatively young guy who had success previously in the Bucs organization. Carl will be highly motivated to show his value
August 15th, 2022 at 10:11 pm
Were they really expecting Cam Gill to be their pass rusher savior for the season?
Wow.
If I’m Tom Brady, I’m regretting my decision. Instead of loading up surefire talent for my final all-in, they’re staying cheap and in-house, and even bringing in former in-house mediocrity as if it’s a normal season with normal expectations.
If I’m Tom Brady, I’m looking at getting blitzed to oblivion, while my defense doesn’t touch the opposing QB, who runs up the score easily.
August 15th, 2022 at 10:16 pm
Don’t know how good Carl will be with the Bucs this time around but he had his best season in 2019 in Todd Bowles defense, so it appears that he was more than just a guy that season. That is why he got a three year 25 million contract in free agency.
I would not hate on this pick up. There is a reason that JPP is still not signed. His injury is significant.
August 15th, 2022 at 10:24 pm
Suh????
JPP?????
LoL 😂 Why are so many people so ignorant? Did you not watch the games last year? JPP is a walking mash unit. He’s done. If he wasn’t they’d probably give him a chance, for a lot less money than what he probably wants.
SUH is also done. All you had to do is watch last year and realize he got worse and worse as the year went on against the run and he was almost nonexistent in the pass rush the whole year.
They were great while they lasted but come on people, get real
August 15th, 2022 at 10:36 pm
SB Says:
August 15th, 2022 at 8:57 pm
He’s our 5th running back, essentially a camp body with Barner injured.
Jeezus. Take a ph0uecking xanax.
August 15th, 2022 at 10:37 pm
steele Says:
August 15th, 2022 at 10:11 pm
Uh, no… he was #4 at OLB… Are you ph0uecking stupid?
August 15th, 2022 at 10:39 pm
Kody Says:
August 15th, 2022 at 8:41 pm
No. We don’t. Hainsey is doing a good job, and he’s our center of the future.
August 15th, 2022 at 10:49 pm
LakelandSteve Says:
August 15th, 2022 at 7:12 pm
They’ve moved on. You should probably do the same.
If he had anything left, somebody probably would’ve signed him already.
August 15th, 2022 at 11:05 pm
Carl Nassib was one of our captains in 2019 as voted by the players.
I think he will be well accepted.
August 15th, 2022 at 11:06 pm
The only reason the Bucs had a chance to come back in the Todd Bowles Bowl was Suh.
Suh.
And regarding his alleged diminished performance — check Bowles’ own comments about him, check the astute Defense Rules for the performance stats, and try watching a game instead of the highlights once in a whil.
August 15th, 2022 at 11:07 pm
Thanks Bird.
August 15th, 2022 at 11:16 pm
Wait a few days. If Trask plays another good game we can trade Gabbert for a better DT than is currently on the market.
August 15th, 2022 at 11:27 pm
Bring the graham crackers and marshmallows and make you a Colorado campfire s’more.
August 15th, 2022 at 11:41 pm
Suh was very solid last year. JPP may be injury prone, but he’s the fastest healer I’ve seen.
As to Nassib, I was sorry to see him leave before, so glad he’s back for another shot.
I think the Raiders were around the 23rd ranked defense last year…maybe worse? The point is that Nassib wasn’t exactly well coached after he left.
August 15th, 2022 at 11:43 pm
Nassib thrived in our system.
We didnt cut him- he left as a FA for more money.
In our defense, He’s good for 6-8 sacks, and solid run defense.
Welcome back Carl!
After Saturdays game, I think Andre Anthony might have some talent as a Pass rusher.
August 16th, 2022 at 12:05 am
Wow i liked Cam Gill as a 4.. arrow was pointing up
Nassib is Trash!
1 more edge rusher gets injured we have a problem
Same with the o-line
Injury Bug needs to Bounce
August 16th, 2022 at 6:02 am
This was a budget-driven signing.
August 16th, 2022 at 6:33 am
I think the Raiders signed Nassib to be a starter, and I think Nassib works best in a rotational role. His only year in Bowles def, he was solid. For all those that are looking at Nassib stats…stop it, you won’t find his effectiveness in the stats, the game film will say it all. Comparisons? Nassib is a more athletic, more consistent version of Anthony Nelson. The guy is high motor and he was disruptive and for the most part healthy the time he was in Tampa. Along with stopping the run and of course pressure on the QB, Bowls like his ends to sometimes drop in coverage, Nassib can do that as well, much better than a guy like Nelson. Nassib is a gem if he returns to us anywhere close to when we had him.
Love this signing, be waiting for them to pull the trigger on him.
August 16th, 2022 at 12:49 pm
Lol pickgrin. Nailed it!
August 17th, 2022 at 11:46 am
A couple of months ago the Ravens had JPP in for a visit and did not sign him, which means there was something they did not like. Maybe his asking price, maybe his health, or maybe his willingness to be a team- first player and take a reserve role. Maybe some combo of these reasons. I think the Bucs brass have the same reservations.