Logan Ryan Gives Bucs Receivers Props
August 19th, 2022
“Mike, tell me about Jalen Ramsey.”
When the Bucs have a healthy receiving corps — you may have heard Mike Evans and Russell Gage are nursing hamstrings and Chris Godwin is not yet 100 percent back from knee surgery rehab — Joe is comfortable saying no team has a better top-four receivers in the game.
Maybe in history.
So when Julio Jones, Evans and Gage were able to get on the field, Logan Ryan told Joe recently that those guys prepped the Bucs’ secondary like no other.
“Yeah, 100 percent,” Ryan said. “Even the quarterback we have at No. 2 is pretty good.”
The Bucs defensive backs had to be ready to ball every time they stepped on the practice field, Ryan told Joe. Because no one wants to put up practice film like this guy.
“It is competition every single day,” Ryan said. “We have a really good secondary and covering our guys in practice, if you can cover our guys in practice, you should be equipped to cover other guys in the league. We see the best of the best every day.”
Unfortunately, the Bucs are not seeing the best every day these days. With Evans and Gage nicked up, Joe wonders if this will diminish the otherwise sharp play of Bucs defensive backs.
Yes, iron sharpens iron. So long as iron is used and not lead.
August 19th, 2022 at 12:07 pm
Glad your link wasn’t another photo of Rosie. Nothing is more scary than an unprepared viewing of the Rosester.
August 19th, 2022 at 12:09 pm
Thought the link was gping to be Hargraves. Maybe it is?
August 19th, 2022 at 12:15 pm
I’m sure they will see different groups of these guys each week as injures occur.
I like that we cover the gambit of receiver styles on this team.
If you are going against Tyreek Hill, you need to see a lot of Miller and Darden and Thompkins in practice.
If you are going against Treylon Burks or AJ Brown, then practice against Mike Evans all week etc.
These DBs “should” have their best year yet as a group if healthy.
Logan Ryan is so cerebral, his value in lining people up to make plays is so crucial. Will be interesting to see our starting lineup because NOT having him on the field is a mistake.
August 19th, 2022 at 12:26 pm
Wow. Logan said even the QB at number 2 is good. Looks like the players have moved on from Brady. It’s interesting he made it a point to mention Gabbert. The players are definitely feeling angry about his absence
August 19th, 2022 at 12:26 pm
Yep, Goat, I was relieved the photo link today was going to be something awful like Rosie. I breathed a sigh of relief when I viewed it.
ROFL, Joes! Burnt toast, indeed!!!
August 19th, 2022 at 12:28 pm
*sorry – worried, not relieved in first sentence. I guess I started day-drinking a tad too early today. Oh wait, it’s past noon, I’m good.
August 19th, 2022 at 12:30 pm
I don’t think we know the level of resentment some teammates may have toward Brady for missing camp. I really think the players think they can win the SB with Gabbert in at QB. He’s had a pretty good camp from all reports.
August 19th, 2022 at 12:34 pm
Julio: “Mike, what did Ramsey look like in that Rams game?”
Mike: “JJ – click the link, homie.”
Hilarious.
August 19th, 2022 at 12:51 pm
Please leave Rosie alone, otherwise Sasquatch will get his Antifa panties in a bunch. He is already upset that his boy toy Brian Stelter got let go by the Commie News Network. Be respectful in his time of grieving.
August 19th, 2022 at 12:57 pm
They also sharpen their skills going up against the Mighty Kyle Trask everyday
August 19th, 2022 at 1:00 pm
Why are players talking up our QB2 if there isn’t doubt? We get Gabbert is probably a top 10 backup but what is going on? I hope we can all shut up on Monday but whats being said and not said is very concerning.
August 19th, 2022 at 1:19 pm
@Josh Exactly! That comment by Logan Ryan has been a bit nervous. I think we can win games with Blaine. He’s a gunslinger who can make every throw. The problem is he’s a turnover machine. Winston would be a better option that Blaine. Blaine also doesn’t have a very good football IQ.
August 19th, 2022 at 1:26 pm
Blah blah blah
August 19th, 2022 at 1:31 pm
What’s the over/under on the number of games our top 4 are all healthy? 8-9?
August 19th, 2022 at 1:35 pm
Judging by social media, and even some people here, it’s going to be a lot of fans upset when the final roster come out. The Bucs aren’t keeping 7 receivers. It serves no purpose when the top 4 are going to command 85-90% of the snaps. The final 6 has been set. Evans, Godwin, Gage, Jones, Johnson, Darden. They’ll keep 4 TE and 4 RB. They will be able to keep 1 or 2 guys on the practice squad, including I believe Grayson if he’s willing. Sterns and Gieger also. Thompkins is going to get snatched up for sure and Miller I believe will eventually be traded for a 7th rounder.
Being that they’re going to have to keep 3 QB, 4 RB and 4 TE, there is no room for an extra receiver. Carrying an extra receiver would put them at 27 offensive players and leave them only 23 spots for defense. I don’t see it, but we’ll see.
August 19th, 2022 at 1:39 pm
I think what Logan meant is that this team is so deep with receivers and quarterbacks, no matter who is out there, it’s a challenge for the defensive backs.
August 19th, 2022 at 1:43 pm
“Even the quarterback we have at No. 2 is pretty good.”
I’m not sure what his name is, but he’s pretty good.
August 19th, 2022 at 1:43 pm
Joe before we get to low because of the star 🌟 receivers being banged up let first take a fresh breath in the depth we currently have in the wideout room…the Dbs will still have their hands full with the back up who all have remarkable speed and as the adagtage goes..speed kills
Miller,darden,perriman, thompson,Grayson and so on all have burners I doubt one is below 91 speed and accel on madden.
Yes julio Evan godwin gage all are veterans and have a tool box of moves to go into but if they are smart their working their top body’s to get top strong-willed their legs heal. Also coaching up the young guys not just on the wr side but our dbs too.
If they have intelligence they should be going to lunch breakfast dinner sharing notes and pushing growth on both sides.
August 19th, 2022 at 1:43 pm
Well, with Brady out. Isn’t our QB2 Kyle “The Marksman” Trask?
Things that make you go…….. F-Brady, until he is back of course!
August 19th, 2022 at 1:46 pm
Can’t assume he was talking about Gabby as QB2.
Just saying, if you’re going to get on the speculation bandwagon. You got to be ORIGINAL.
Or not, do you
August 19th, 2022 at 2:39 pm
Too much cockeyed optimism concerning this receiving corps, and not enough realism. The bucs pass catchers are weaker than last year. Gage isn’t AB, Rudolph isn’t Gronk, Godwin won’t be the Godwin from last year. It’s anyone’s guess what Jones will give them, and if he can stay healthy. I’ll admit, it looks great on paper, but last year’s offense was historically great. That’s an awfully hard thing to replicate. Plus, the injuries are starting to pile up. Many of you here are whistling past the graveyard.
August 19th, 2022 at 3:01 pm
Thought we were supposed to KNOW Something 100% “this week” about Jensen, & STILL NOTHING… WTH!?!?!?! STILL NOTHING a on Brady… And, what about this big news we were all supposed to be waiting for (“worth the wait,” I believed it said, from yesterday), from you, Joe!? What The Hell Is Going On Here!? Absolutely, NOTHING Seems ‘Right.’ :/
August 19th, 2022 at 3:01 pm
I think I saw Rosie hiding in the graveyard. Very frightening.
August 19th, 2022 at 3:09 pm
OK my friend GOB, I can understand WHY you are saying this year’s crop of catchers isn’t as good as last year. I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that our WR corps was decimated at playoff time…and STILL, the final score of the Rams game was competitive.
The optimism from this fan, from Joe, and from other fans likely stems from the potential of this group. If (a huge IF) our WR’s can stay healthy or near healthy for 15-17 games, the talent indicates even a better year than last year. Yes, I know, IF EVERYTHING IS PERFECT.
I’m not worried about our receiving corps. They will get the job done. I’m more concerned right now about our O-Line, cuz there won’t be too many passes completed if QB1 gets consistently harassed, harangued, molested and mauled game in and game out.
Still, I think this Bucs team does have a good chance at going deep in the playoffs. That’s my story and I’m sticking to my optimism. Life is too short to be too worried about things out of this fan’s control.
August 19th, 2022 at 3:29 pm
Maniac Buc
You could be right about keeping only 6 receivers……and…you left Perriman out…..he has a guaranteed salary of $1,047,000…..but they could eat it…or maybe trade him.
I’m starting to think that Thompkins makes the roster….even over Scotty…..
Tyler Johnson should also make it.
August 19th, 2022 at 3:45 pm
I would disagree with the statement about wr not being as good as last year.
For the reason Mike evans is the heart of this offense that’s before brady gronk godwin ab or any other name people can dial up from last year.
I would argue Lenny was as valuable to the offense as brady but bradys leadership and ability to throw so many passes with out arm fatigue edges him out on my list of importance.
Yes brady is what made them believe but Mike is what dictates defenses.
Taking double and triple teams at times depending on the team.
This allows so much to be done in the offense but technically anyone.
My example to that is the rams game which we lost.
No wr is out there of value..other then a beat up Mike who dominated the best arguably best I should say cb I’m nfl right now Ramsey.
Injured scotty Miller n idk who else way playing with him.
Says a lot bout brady not giving up..and Mike being a goat at receiver.
So to my point tho…
Mike still are number 1 wr n red zone threat.
Godwin will return this yr..game 1 maybe but he will be back to form I’m som compactly they will not risk him.
Gage is he ab no he’s not..in ways I would argue he might be better for this team. I think he’s more of a 3rd receiver then ab who was more of a splash play diva. I don’t see his numbers here being impossible for gage to beat because he’s already built a relationship with brady and has impressed the defense on his escape n cuts.
Now let’s dive into the rest…
Julio jones what julio does the bucs get..all reports say he’s back and healthy..we seen what brady does with aged great wr..to rattle 1 off randy moss..
I wouldn’t doubt julio feels rejuvenated loved and respected here.
Brady calling for him has to feel good and push to make him want to be his best.
Has he lost a step or love for the game? How will he be used?
Julio is a question mark at this time but at this moment I see h as a strong back up to mike evans and a nightmare for any 3rd or 4th string cb.
Now the rest of the guys been on the roster so to explain them would be pointless but I will say most came back in shape Miller n johnson..Johnson…
All know the playbook more for1yr and know bradys expectations
Oline-this is the most scary part because they look blah at lg n center is sketchy..Will see bout those guys n they could be the reason the pass gane looks worse..
Finally te…losing gronk is a hit no question…but will gronk be back is the question I honestly haven’t closed that door yet.
Rudy has been underwhelming as per Joe’s reports
Brate has shown he can do it with winston but will he do it this year,
2 rookies fighting for a 3rd spot and playing time..I guess Otton could make some catches idk…
Yes the te room took a drop..went from A+ to b- maybe c+
So your argument could be oline drop off and n less dynamic te room but I strong believe health permitting the wide outs will be much better then precious years.
August 19th, 2022 at 3:48 pm
Excuse the typos… this phones really sucks since I crack its screen.
August 19th, 2022 at 5:16 pm
Goobert.
Read the “Watch daddy sling it” memoir of one of his offensive linemen. It was hilarious as he threw a pick 6 right after he said it.
Ryan Griffin might play some games this season.
August 19th, 2022 at 5:26 pm
@TampaBayBucFan, If the Bucs do keep 7, Perriman will be the guy. Miller literally has no shot at the roster, and at this point I’m sure he knows it. He’s the one I’m almost sure won’t be a Buc this year once the regular season starts. That’s less of a knock on him and just the way the cookie crumbles. Your not keeping Miller over Grayson, Perriman or Julio, the other receivers with 1 year deals. You’re not keeping him over Darden or Johnson for control reasons. Clearly Evans, Godwin and Gage are going no where. And somebody will definitely claim him on waivers, so he’ll never make it to the practice squad.
That means Miller is almost certainly gone.
August 19th, 2022 at 5:27 pm
I love Julio, but he looked slow out of his breaks against the Titans. I do think he’s built up some chemistry and trust with Brady. Brady is big on trust. The same with Gage. He was very complimentary of Gage at his last press conference. Brady’s sacred trust circle currently includes, Lenny, Gio, Godwin, Evans, and Brate. Gage and Julio might join after a couple of games if they can prove themselves.
August 19th, 2022 at 5:54 pm
Blaine Gabbert is gonna win MVP with that arsenal of receivers.
August 19th, 2022 at 6:06 pm
@Maniac. Perriman has done anything to justify his spot on the roster. Fans are living off that one off season where he was productive. He didn’t have much production last year, and he’s had the injured bug.
August 19th, 2022 at 6:29 pm
Well if the Glazers sell Manchester United to Elon Musk and the Bucs have a Bowles Blunder season maybe Elon will buy the Bucs. This season is on Bowles Blunder or Best Ever.
August 19th, 2022 at 6:34 pm
Bucsfan, He has a guaranteed contract. While that doesn’t give him an advantage against the 6 clear favs to make the team, it gives him an advantage over everyone else. Also, he has been solid when he’s had to be, and that’s what you look for in a guy way down the depth chart.
August 19th, 2022 at 6:52 pm
@Maniac This was in stat line last year:11-167-1. I would hardly call that solid. Remember, he was a desperation pickup after we suffered injuries. He’s BA favorite. That’s the only reason he’s still on the open. Oh, the guy has buttery hands.
August 19th, 2022 at 6:54 pm
Give Rosie a try at guard. She might be effective by scaring the defense.
August 19th, 2022 at 7:22 pm
How about we wait until the regular season starts before we start worrying about sinking into another lost decade Hmmm?
August 19th, 2022 at 7:27 pm
@bucsfan13…
… Bliane may be a turn over machine . Did u forget 30-30+? Who’s dat?
Give KT a chance to prove himself.
August 19th, 2022 at 7:30 pm
You think bucs are worried about 1 mil guaranteed for perriman. Nah. When they can keep a young / up and comer for basically nothing . They have 2-3 young kids that have a huge Upside on the team right now. Plus Perriman had one good game. one big catch. Not sure all the love. And you dont see his 4.2 or 4.3 speed on the field. Honestly , Not sure any team would sign him if bucs cut.
August 19th, 2022 at 7:35 pm
Yes iron sharpens iron, but bullets are lead and you never bring a knife to a gunfight 😂
August 19th, 2022 at 7:47 pm
Top 4, I still think the Bucs a few years ago might have had a better lineup.
Evans, Godwin, D-Jax, Humphries.
Evans, Godwin and Humphries cancel out Evans, Godwin and Gage.
Then it all comes down to D-Jax vs Julio. If Julio was Julio from a few years ago, then it’s a no brainer. But don’t underate D-Jax, the guy was/is a diva, but he was one of the top WRs in the NFL and still playing at a very high level.
Now take this lineup of Evans, Godwin, Julio and add Antonio Brown, now you’re talking an absolutely insane lineup, then you still have Gage at #5, just think of him working on backup safeties and LBs. What a mismatch.
Of course none of that matters if Leftwich just runs it up the middle, which is how it would all play out without Arians there to yell at him to open things up.
August 19th, 2022 at 7:49 pm
Inquiring minds want to know what his character is going to be on that stupid show he is rumored to be shooting.
Gagging
This is football in 2022 ?
August 19th, 2022 at 7:52 pm
Rod, I agree with many of your takes. But no way is Humphries better than Gage. Not in any universe.
August 19th, 2022 at 8:00 pm
And before too many reach for their cyanide capsules, watching the Pud-Panthies game. The Puds had their ones on offense in against Panthie scrubs. Couldn’t even get a first down until the second quarter.
Pud fans are lining up to dive into the harbor and get run over by a lobster boat.
That offense looks bad, the OL without Shaq is terrible.
August 19th, 2022 at 8:03 pm
Goatfarmer – I didn’t say better, I just think they cancel each other out. Humphries was a great #4 WR, very productive. Humphries was hurt as he went up the depth chart, as a #3 WR he was OK, and he stunk as a starter. But against backup safeties, and depth corners, he could get open and make plays. I was not in any way a big fan of Hump, the dummy lost us that game in Buffalo that basically destroyed an entire season and I never forgave him for that. But, in that #4 role, he was great.
For Gage, we just haven’t seen him yet, and as a #4 WR, I think they’ll do about the same – which means I think he’ll be great.
I’m completely open to being wrong however, if Gage has a breakout season, and is an unstoppable weapon because defenses have to guard everyone else first, I’ll love that.
Also, just a look at the stats…
2017 Humphries, 61-631-10.1 1 TDs 73% catch rate
2018 Humphries, 76-816-10.7 5 TDs 73% catch rate
2020 Gage, 72-786-10.9 4 TDs 66% catch rate
2021 Gage, 66-770-11.7 4 TDs 70% catch rate
The stats really aren’t that far off.
We shall see.
August 19th, 2022 at 8:05 pm
Goatfarmer – Why are the stupid Panthers thinking they’re good enough to not have to play their starters? They have a new starting QB, and yet they’re doing a battle for their #3 and #4? What morons.
August 19th, 2022 at 8:06 pm
@Tom. Winston has a better win and lose record than Gabbert. The Gabbert hype reeks of hypocrisy
August 19th, 2022 at 8:12 pm
@SB Do you believe every Reddit theory? If so, I feel sorry for you. Tom never responds to rumors. It’s been that way it’s entire career, so his silence invites speculation, rightly or wrongly. The thing is Tom absolutely does not care about these rumors. Him not responding rumors is totally on brand and not out of the ordinary. Remember, he never responded to those BA rumors until he was asked directly.
August 19th, 2022 at 8:59 pm
I am a Gage fan over Humphries easy.
August 19th, 2022 at 9:04 pm
Why are you talking about Winston Bucfan13?
We have Brady as a quarterback. He is way better than Winston.
Is Blaine Gabbert a better backup than Andy Dalton?
Maybe not, but their comparison is a lot closer than the Brady v. Winston comparison.
August 19th, 2022 at 9:24 pm
This Packers-Saints game is nearly unwatchable, they go to commercial like every 90 seconds it seems like.
Also Jordan Love doesn’t look like an NFL QB. If they could flip him for anything of value, they should.
August 19th, 2022 at 9:36 pm
Rod – both are pretty unwatchable, but after watching the Pud scrub WRs dropping bombs hitting them right in the gut, chances are whoever we end up cutting from the WR room will be signed as their #3 and #4!
Also not sure what to think or interpret when one team wants to look at their starters while the other side is playing the backups. And then the starters blow!
August 19th, 2022 at 9:40 pm
Mike Evans(22) = Mike Evans(18)
Chris(22) > Chris(18)
Gage > Humpries
Julio > Jackson
It’s not close
August 19th, 2022 at 9:40 pm
Jordan Love isn’t bad. Actually, Trask should be on the Jordan Love trajectory. Love sat his first year, and then became the backup the next year. Trask is still trying to beat out Gabbert for the backup job in his second year.
August 19th, 2022 at 9:46 pm
Love is way more of an athlete than Trask, but to sit for some years before playing — yeah. It worked out pretty well for Rodgers and now since QBs play into their golden years, he’s got plenty of time to soak it all in. Trask has always been a late bloomer. Those that want to see him on the field now are in effect hoping for total disaster, both for the Bucs and Trask.
So in absence of Brady, watch daddy sling it!
August 19th, 2022 at 9:55 pm
I’d like to comment more but Rosie and her/his wife just showed up at my door with a case of Old Mulewaukee, a can of shaving cream and a bag of razors.
August 19th, 2022 at 11:10 pm
Joe in Michigan
Hey Joe. how ’bout you keep your pie trap shut if all that’s gonna come out of it is a mouthful of @^$%
August 19th, 2022 at 11:22 pm
@Goatfarmer Please don’t compare Rodgers and Trask ever! Rodgers is in a league of his own, and he played in an era where QBs were allowed to sit. Moreover, Rodgers was much more talented than Trask coming into the league. No way he would’ve been relegated to a redshirt year.
August 19th, 2022 at 11:32 pm
joe where did you go???????
August 20th, 2022 at 1:32 am
13 — Bwaaahaaahahahaaaa! Don’t worry man. I’m drunk but not insane.
I was not attempting to compare the talent level of the two! Simply that Rodgers got to incubate behind a hall of famer and turned into Rodgers. If Trask were super lucky, he’d get to incubate behind Brady and whoever, and in another 5 or 6 years, maybe Brad Johnson.
August 20th, 2022 at 2:39 am
Maniac Buc – I don’t know if I agree with that.
Evans is still great, but like any WR, their peak years generally are more towards the middle of their career. Mike, in ’18, had a line of 86-1524-8, with a league leading 17.7avg per catch and played all 16 games. Again, I’m not down on Mike and if the Bucs didn’t have the receiver depth they do now I think he could put up similar numbers (probably lower avg but more TDs), but it’s hard to say he’s better now than he was then.
For Godwin, you could say he’s better now, except for he’s coming off the injury. I fully think he will be better, but it’s still a bit of an assumption until he’s in the game. It was a major injury after all — but in 2022, it’s not something that normally negatively affects a player.
To me, these two cancel each other out.
So then it’s D-Jax vs Julio. Again, in 2018, no question, it’s Julio, but we’re comparing the 2022 Julio, and he’s coming off two down seasons in a row. This isn’t 2018 Julio we’re getting — I don’t think. If we do get 2018 Julio, then sure, this is a no brainer. Also, in 2018, regardless of the issues D-Jax had stomping all over spineless Dirk, there is no question that he was still one of the top weapons in football. To me, again, these cancel themselves out, and depending on Julio’s health, by the end of the year, it could very well be a runaway victory by D-Jax. I hope I’m wrong there and we get Julio who is able to stay healthy, perhaps by limiting his snaps.
So in my mind it is just Humphries vs Gage, and again, statistically, Hump was better and Humphries excelled in that role as a depth WR. Gage should have every chance to make this one look silly however, and again, I hope he does.
But we shall see. This isn’t a hot take or one I stand firm on, I’m willing to move based on the evidence we see.
August 20th, 2022 at 3:19 am
Uhhh Joe’s? Why didn’t my comment about the Brady theory go through? If I missed it and it did then it’s my mistake entirely. Just me being a curious Bucs fan and reader
August 20th, 2022 at 6:52 am
Maybe one day JOE will incorporate a proper comments system into the website so his loyal followers can comment on specific comments and not just post a pointless out of context comment. Need the ability to upvote the comments JOE! Do you have any idea how many more repeat visitors you would generate? It just can’t be that cost prohibitive to do this the right way. And JOE, won’t you make more advertising dollars with 20 to 50% more traffic? It would make your site a whole lot of fun.
August 20th, 2022 at 5:19 pm
I csn understand why the GOAT wouldn’t want to come back to a team whose trainers and conditioners haven’t been able to keep its top receivers properly HYDRATED and PLIABLE for the third straight training camp. Preventable injuries again hobble Tom Brady’s team from the start. Unprofessional and grossly negligent.