Does The Signing Of Carl Nassib Mean Jason Pierre-Paul Is Done?
August 16th, 2022
Did JPP turn down Bucs?
One of the greatest thefts of Bucs’ AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht’s tenure was when he swindled Jason Pierre-Paul from then-Giants general manager Dave Gettleman for a third-round pick in March of 2018.
That third-round pick turned out to be such a huge foundation in the Bucs’ 2020 Super Bowl team.
A little more than a year after the Bucs won that Super Bowl, JPP was gone. And here we are in mid-August with teams starting to whittle down their rosters, and JPP is still unemployed.
Yesterday, the Bucs brought back a guy who did really well for them in 2018 and 2019, Carl Nassib. In those two years at outside linebacker, Nassib played in 29 games (17 starts) had 12.5 sacks and 38 quarterback pressures. He left as a free agent and Chucky swooped in.
With the Bucs looking for a backup outside linebacker in the wake of Cam Gill’s foot injury, Nassib was brought back yesterday.
It made Joe wonder a few things:
Did the Bucs even attempt to sign JPP? Did JPP even want to return to the Bucs?
Joe remembers when JPP hopped on a private jet as he packed up his belongings to head back to South Florida, JPP had a video on his Instagram stories account where he was laughing hysterically and hollering, “Bye-bye, Tampa!” And then JPP referred to the city as a “‘ho.”
Shortly after Joe posted an article linking to that very video, JPP took it down. What was he ashamed of?
Joe has no idea if the Bucs reached out to JPP, who this offseason had surgery on his rotator cuff which pretty much rendered him useless last year. But if the Bucs chose to bring in Nassib over JPP, Joe wonders if that is a sure sign that JPP’s NFL career is shot?
August 16th, 2022 at 12:06 am
Jpp also made a post on his instagram less than a month ago saying he gave Tampa 4 good years. Must have known there was zero percent chance of returning
August 16th, 2022 at 12:10 am
$$$ likely a factor — JPP will go play for anyone for the minimum now, if he wants to play — certainly Licht got Nassib for less than JPP’s ask.
Now…………….Suh.
August 16th, 2022 at 12:10 am
JPP wouldn’t want to come back as a rotational piece, IMO. Like the Nassib signing. Good depth piece. I enjoyed his game when he was here.
August 16th, 2022 at 1:08 am
Is Nassib going to need to take a day off if some mean emails get leaked?
August 16th, 2022 at 1:31 am
@Joe, Ho is slang word. For example, if I was in Vegas, and I posted a picture of me with the city in this back drop, I would say, “I’m up in this ho”. If I see some shoes I like, I would say, “Them Hoes are nice”. It’s the same as saying “them joints are nice” or “them thangs are nice”. It’s not used in a derogatory way. Hope that helps a little bit. I don’t personally use the word in that way, but much of the young generation 40 and under do!
August 16th, 2022 at 1:36 am
The answer is yes, but shouldn’t be.
Nassib is not a great pass rusher. Low single digit sacks in all seasons except his two slightly better (6) with Bucs. Avg of 3.6 sacks. Absolutely mediocre. And remember he was famous for missing tackles when he left the Bucs.
He didn’t make an impact for the Raiders, and teams were not clamoring to sign him. He’s most famous for coming out, an LGBT hero.
If Bowles/Licht is serious about contending, they need another. Trey Flowers, Attaochou, someone better than single-digit sack Carl.
August 16th, 2022 at 1:37 am
JPP was done long before the Nassib signing. Giving his number to Logan Hall was a clue don’tcha think?
August 16th, 2022 at 1:47 am
There’s been chatter the team was worn out with JPP. When healthy he was a gamer, unfortunately he was often hurt….sometimes from his own blunders in the offseason. He freelanced on plays….wasn’t as disciplined as one might hope. The Bucs have a culture with a very high standard, not sure JPP meshed all that well with the Brady way. Someone will pick him up….just not us.
August 16th, 2022 at 2:06 am
Even in Nassib’s best two seasons with the Bucs, his sacks and a lot of his splash plays were secondary-impact. Typical: QBs flushed out of the pocket by others, and Nassib, who is blocked, happens to be in the right place to tackle him. He’s got a motor but is hardly ever the first to get to a QB.
It is too late in FA to get anyone great, too many guys washed or underperformers like Carl, but I would have preferred some creativity. Everson Griffen, Trey Flowers, Takk McKinley etc all better pass rushers.
This roster needs better than a rotational backup, which is what Carl is.
August 16th, 2022 at 2:06 am
Nassib was the best we could do? Hope he still has a motor cause he did nothing for Raiders.
August 16th, 2022 at 2:10 am
JPP was a great player. He’s done.
August 16th, 2022 at 2:12 am
Bobby M, I don’t see the Bucs doing a lot of things “the Brady way”, except placating him with Julio and Kyle Rudolph.
They’re doing it the “Bowles/Arians/Leftwich” way, treating Brady as just any starting QB. No special treatment, he gets what is, too bad. Risky OL and DL. Rookies and question marks. “Continuity”.
Losing this season is less important, it appears, than the continuing progress of Hainsey, JTS, Trask, Logan Hall, etc.
August 16th, 2022 at 2:15 am
JPP and Suh are two of the biggest reasons this team was even good
It’s ridiculous garbage to not have both of them on the team.
And the team deserves to suck because of its arrogance on this matter.
I like Nassib as a player but heard he acted like a clown all the time.
I’d rather have two angry old beasts than a clown.
Get your head right Licht!!
Bowles…don’t turn this into Jets south
August 16th, 2022 at 2:20 am
JPP was an absolute warrior for us.
Whatever happens, he will be missed here.
I wish him the best.
August 16th, 2022 at 2:29 am
Cleanhouse, get a grip
August 16th, 2022 at 2:49 am
Like, a Hell “Ho,” or “Ho,” as in… Tampa, That Place Is A Real “Ho?” Hmmmm…
August 16th, 2022 at 2:57 am
Nassib was probably cheap by comparison to JPP. Still need to sign SUH.
August 16th, 2022 at 3:06 am
JPP never comes off the field –does he want to share snaps with Tryon?
At this point, there’s no room for JPP.
August 16th, 2022 at 4:30 am
JPP was great when healthy. He’s a 33 year old woth a torm rotator cuff and doesn’t want to be 4th string. Nassib is a solid depth piece who could easily be the number 3 de or start of necessary om a very good defense. We should all be happy to have him as the #4. For those clamoring for SUH. He probably wants 10 million a year and a chance to start which is the reason he is no longer here. How many old guys are we gonna get. We have to think about the now and the future. This team is set up for success all over the field….as long as Trask or whoever starts after brady doesn’t throw 30 interceptions a year we will contend for the division title for years to come.
August 16th, 2022 at 5:16 am
yeah maybe JPP and Suh dont want to be rotation players. aside from $
August 16th, 2022 at 6:15 am
JPP can still ball when healthy, probably wanted too much money.
August 16th, 2022 at 6:16 am
I’m really liking the defense moves. Suh would be a great addition.
August 16th, 2022 at 6:39 am
Nassib was average when he was here. Doubt an older version will help much.
August 16th, 2022 at 6:46 am
JPP is a Playoff specialist and does not need to play the first 13 weeks of the season
August 16th, 2022 at 6:59 am
Carl Nassib replaces Cam Gill, assuming he makes the final 53 of course. I like Gill, but in the 25 games he got into over 2 years he had a total of 1.5 sacks, 3 QB Hits & 1 TFL. It’s not exactly like he set the world on fire & was poised for a huge year.
Nassib hasn’t exactly set the world on fire either (22 sacks, 53 QB Hits & 39 TFLs in 6 years), BUT … his 2 years with us were by far his most productive (12.5 sacks, 25 QB Hits, 20 TFLs). Carl cashed in on those 2 good years (don’t blame him), so now let’s see if he can get back to those kinds of numbers. Obviously hope he does; we’re the beneficiaries.
August 16th, 2022 at 6:59 am
Bring the marshmallows and graham crackers and nassib will whip up a Colorado campfire.
August 16th, 2022 at 7:26 am
Nassib replaces Cam Gill….not JPP….or another top edge rusher….
I think it’s a good point that JPP not only wants to start…he wants all the snaps…..I’m not sure if JPP would respond well to a backup role.
We needed another edge rusher before Gill went down….we still need one.
August 16th, 2022 at 8:06 am
Gill might be back. If he can clear waivers put him on IR after final cuts like Jenson.
August 16th, 2022 at 8:09 am
One BUCS site is slobbering all over Nassib as though he’s an All Pro or something. He’s ok, I guess, but no superstar.
August 16th, 2022 at 8:30 am
Any chance we bring back Suh? As far as Nassib, seems like he regressed with the Raiders. I’d like to see Anthony Nelson get more snaps this season.
August 16th, 2022 at 8:40 am
I like Nelson too. I thought Gill was coming on too. Ponder looks ok. Ponder and Nassib better be ST ballers. No Carl, NOT that kind of baller.
August 16th, 2022 at 8:47 am
Thanks maniac buc for the urban slang lesson. Reconfirms my belief that the world needs less people, not more..
August 16th, 2022 at 8:51 am
Nassib is a good player. Good to see him back on the team.
August 16th, 2022 at 9:04 am
Nassib was a part time player and he had 12 1/2 sacks in the two years here. That’s pretty good. We would be happy if Gill got 6 sacks this year in a part time roll
August 16th, 2022 at 9:17 am
Glad we finally signed Nassib.
August 16th, 2022 at 10:04 am
Ever see Dick Butkus try to play in his last year? Very sad… the attitude to clean up the pile was still there, but everything was in slow motion compared to his glory years. It’s better to burn out, than fade away. Glad we didn’t have to watch JPP fade away.
August 16th, 2022 at 11:10 am
Mark2001. Good point. I agree.
JPP surgery probably makes him ineffective, and all of the NFL knows that.
August 16th, 2022 at 11:13 am
JPP was done before the halfway point of last year.
This is a business and JPP was giving us negative equity most of last year. His explosiveness is gone and so are the big checks. They go hand in hand.
Nassib has always been better as a rotational player. That’s just some guys niche. They aren’t all built to be full time starters.
August 16th, 2022 at 11:13 am
CleanHouse Says:
August 16th, 2022 at 2:15 am
“I like Nassib as a player but heard he acted like a clown all the time.
I’d rather have two angry old beasts than a clown.”
I doubt you have a source that suggest that Nassib acted like a clown.
In fact, in 2019, the Bucs players voted him a team captain.
August 16th, 2022 at 12:06 pm
Great now we got a locker room drama.
August 16th, 2022 at 12:25 pm
Just prove it again, Mr. Nassib. Best bet on the table. Sorry for being charmless.
August 16th, 2022 at 12:49 pm
I thought JPP said “We outta this hole”
August 16th, 2022 at 12:53 pm
Nassib is great… A super high effort guy that’s plenty strong and fast enough. Offers versatility at both OLB spots, occasionally at the 3 tech, and also DE on four man lines. Very good signing if he’s the same old Carl. He knows this D backwards and forwards.
August 16th, 2022 at 6:12 pm
As much as I love him and willing to prove doubters wrong, he was done last year
August 16th, 2022 at 8:22 pm
Nassib should be a solid contributor . Also has the respect of Bowles. Glad the team picked him up.
August 16th, 2022 at 8:31 pm
Nassib hasn’t contributed that much lately. This was a knee jerk signing by Licht. I think Bowles valued familiarity over production. One thing i hate about this signing you have social justice warriors nagging the team about what they think of his sexuality. I already read an article saying that Brady hasn’t spoken up about the LGBTQ community.
August 16th, 2022 at 9:53 pm
It has been said that JPP is flipping houses these days, to make money.
I would expect him to sign with Mark Spain Real Estate before he signs with the Bucs, or any other NFL Team.