Joe Tryon-Shoyinka Fighting Bucs History
July 19th, 2022
Time to buck Bucs history.
Draft history is not kind to Bucs edge rushers.
Joe was talking yesterday morning with his good friend Sean Sullivan, the general manager of Tampa’s first family of Ford, Bill Currie Ford, about pass rushers. The topic was how few Bucs defensive ends the team drafted ever turned out to be decent pass rushers.
The subjcect became sorrier and sorrier.
So Joe looked it up.
Since the great Lee Roy Selmon, Mr. Buccaneer, was drafted first overall in 1976, the Bucs have drafted just two defensive ends who have recorded double-digit sacks in a season. And Selmon was the very first player drafted in Bucs history!
So think about that: In 46 years, the Bucs have drafted three defensive ends who had 10 or more sacks in a season. Along with Selmon, who is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, are Marcus Jones and Chidi Ahanotu, who both played for the Bucs in the 1990s.
(Yes, the Bucs have had several players reach 10 or more sacks in a season. But either they were not drafted by the Bucs — Simeon Rice, Shaq Barrett — or they were not defensive ends/edge rushers — Warren Sapp, Santana Dotson.)
That is just an awful history. Three in nearly a half-century?
Now Joe likes edge rusher Joe Tryon-Shoyinka, the Bucs’ first round pick from 2021. Joe likes his quickness to the quarterback and his attitude. After his rookie season, JTS stayed in Tampa rather than return home to Washington on the west coast in order to work out with the team. JTS also went to a pass rushing camp this past winter.
Based on his Instagram photos, JTS appears to have rocked up, too. Joe would love nothing more than for JTS to p!ss on this awful Bucs history of drafting edge rushers and have a monster season.
July 19th, 2022 at 9:39 am
I firmly believe he is going to be a double digit sack guy… It needs to start this year. LFG!
July 19th, 2022 at 9:56 am
He had 4 sacks last year in a largely backup role. If he stays healthy I think double digit sacks are easily within his grasp…his grasp of the QB that is!
July 19th, 2022 at 10:00 am
The history of the Bucs changed when Bruce Arians came out of retirement and changed how the Bucs look at things.
Licht has, slowly, arrived at some insights that make Bucs drafts relevant; something that has never before been real.
I think JTS will be a great pick, but DEs always take a couple of years to get in the swing of things. Part of it is getting their man weight and balance. JTS has done that.
July 19th, 2022 at 10:30 am
I feel more comfortable if you would put up a pic of the bulked up JTS.
July 19th, 2022 at 10:33 am
Have low expectations. Easier to exceed those.
We should be more confident in Nelson’s development. He looks like he understands that going super wide and 10 yards past the QB isn’t good.
July 19th, 2022 at 11:16 am
Pessimism vs Optimism
A. No Buc draft pick has recorded 10 sacks since Selmon
B. JTS has the opportunity to be the first pick since Selmon to get 10 sacks
Maybe try B for a change. The sky isn’t always falling.
July 19th, 2022 at 11:21 am
You’re leaving out Marcus Jones and Chidi Ahanatu.
July 19th, 2022 at 11:23 am
We’ll find out how good our coaching is…and time to improve
July 19th, 2022 at 11:26 am
Joe,
I would like to see comparisons in weight of players from their rookie year to years 2 and /or three, as you stated in this posting JTS has started to put on his man weight…but no mention to what the gains were.
Thanks
July 19th, 2022 at 11:45 am
Joe you ain’t lying. Booker Reese. Remember him anyone?
Tryon is going to be great. No doubt. This Defense will be one of the best in team history this year. With Skinny Lenny getting 1,000+ yards rushing and the rookie offering the change up. Be like Alstott and Dunn. Less time for Defense on field and fresher. Dominant up front. Great pass rush. Will make some DBs rich.
July 19th, 2022 at 11:49 am
We certainly didn’t invest much draft capital in edge rushers……look at how we passed up on Josh Allen for Devin White……
How many of our top 20 draft picks were on edge rushers….other than QB edge rushers are the most coveted players.
July 19th, 2022 at 12:02 pm
Re- sign JPP and don’t chance it. If he is fully recovered from Shoulder surgery he could provide the one two punch we need.
July 19th, 2022 at 12:03 pm
Looks like we vasty overpaid Barrett luckily hes only got a couple of years left on his mega contract.
July 19th, 2022 at 12:06 pm
When you are suggesting looking at Bucs history I would ask that you do not. It’s not pretty. We only have 15 winning seasons total. We are currently in our golden age of football, enjoy the ride and drink some non fruity beer. Try a manly beer or some rum and enjoy the wins
July 19th, 2022 at 12:22 pm
I really hope this kid blossoms. I have to think that playing alongside JPP, Suh and Shaq helped instill that professionalism and workman-like attitude.
Work on that craft, kid. We need you.
July 19th, 2022 at 12:31 pm
Shoyinka didn’t show anything during his rookie season I think Joe Tryon-Shoyinka isn’t the real deal. To hesitant, plays with the “I may f*ck something up so I’ll say back here” attitude. I think he’ll have something to prove this season or the Bucs go shopping for another DE.
July 19th, 2022 at 12:32 pm
If Trask had been taken in the first round and had a rookie season like JTS, you guys would be calling for Trask’s head. But JTS has the “right look” so he gets lots of love!
July 19th, 2022 at 12:53 pm
Good thing Noah Spence was such a slam dunk pick.
July 19th, 2022 at 1:07 pm
For every good pick by Licht there is a noah spence, VH3 or roberto the kicker
July 19th, 2022 at 1:09 pm
How did Trask get dragged into this conversation?
I expected nothing from JTS last year, same as Trask. What I do expect from both is improvement.
Face it, Trask will not see playing time so long as TB12 remains healthy. That’s not a bad thing IMO. Let Trask develop.
We KNOW that JTS will be the starter. That’s the biggest difference between the two. We need him more than we need Trask THIS year.
Touchy about Trask aren’t we?!
July 19th, 2022 at 1:20 pm
bucsfaninchina Says:
July 19th, 2022 at 12:53 pm
Good thing Noah Spence was such a slam dunk pick
Didn’t Noah Spence essentially have the injury that JPP has right now?
Probably a big reason the Buc’s are not signing JPP. You can’t do the extension required for tackling and pass rushing without reinjuring that AC joint area again.
July 19th, 2022 at 1:28 pm
He probably won’t..ANelson in contract year…be nice if they both hit 8-9each..or will it be 1 can’t and the other won’t…I look forward to how adroitly the coaches adjust to which players are bringing it or will they have predetermined favorites
July 19th, 2022 at 2:02 pm
Best thing about this season is this is the first time Tryon-Shoyinka is going season to season playing football since 2018-2019. Gotta remember he opted out in 2020 and 2021 was his first taste of live action over a span 16-18 months. I’m ready to see how JTS has grown as a player, whether he’s added any new moves and how he’ll do holding down his own side of the DL opposite of Barrett. I want to see improvement from JTS setting and maintaining the edge better, exhibiting more control of the ridiculous speed he has w/o losing any of his explosiveness and just a better all around defender going into year 2.
July 19th, 2022 at 3:28 pm
I’m getting Noah Spence Daquan Bowers vibes. Hope I’m wrong
July 19th, 2022 at 5:19 pm
JTS’ 1st season was way better than any season that Daquan Bowers had.
July 19th, 2022 at 6:03 pm
Been saying put Toydinka at tight end during preseason. Why? Look at the pic Joe put up on here. Tall, fast, rangy, quick! So how about his hands? Let’s see what he can do in practice. This guy is fast and has the size. If he can catch he could be a monster for dbs to handle. You can’t teach size and speed, but you can teach the fundamentals of playing TE. I personally did not see him perform all that great as a pass rusher. But I liked the way he chased down runners from behind. Unless he develops a power rush, and if Gronk stays retired, let’s see what he can do at TE.
July 19th, 2022 at 9:59 pm
Usually unless we have an early pick in the 1st round…..
We don’t nail d line picks
July 19th, 2022 at 11:53 pm
He needs to learn to control his speed. Hopefully someone taught him not to over pursue the QB and run right past him. QB’s today have some pretty good moves in the pocket and you constantly see defenders run right by them. If he can harness that speed and add a bull rush to his repertoire with an increase of power then we could be onto something. His rookie season was decent and he showed some flashes but this next season is make or break for him. If he doesn’t take that next giant step then I’m afraid he will go down in history like Noah Spence, Adrian Claiborne or the immortal Daquan Bowers.
July 20th, 2022 at 1:16 am
It’s fun to watch chickens run around without heads.
July 20th, 2022 at 6:44 am
Now’s the time JTS.