“Everything You Just Said Right There Is Wrong”
July 12th, 2022Joe always enjoys when a local Bucs media person gets slapped around/corrected by an NFL insider. It doesn’t matter who it is. It’s great theater and comedy all in one.
Today it was Rick Stroud of the twice-weekly community newspaper, the Tampa Bay Times.
Stroud visited SiriusXM NFL Radio and explained why he’s confident Tom Brady doesn’t want to lead the NFL in pass attempts again this season. Brady doesn’t want to expose himself to so many potential hits, per Stroud, and running more means help for the defense.
Co-host Charlie Weis, Brady’s friend and his former Patriots playcaller, wagged an on-air finger at Stroud and said his take is nonsense.
“[Brady] wants to throw it on every down. So everything you just said right there is wrong,” Weis retorted. “Because if he had his druthers, if there are 70 offensive plays, he’d throw it 70 times.”
Weis also rejected Stroud’s notion that Brady would be more comfortable with Todd Bowles as head coach versus Bucco Bruce Arians. Per Weis, it won’t be about comfort, just one less voice in the stew of cooking the offense. Weis believes Bowles will stay hands-off the offense on gamedays.
Joe agrees with Weis wholeheartedly when it comes to Brady wanting to pass, pass and pass some more. That’s why he came to Tampa.
Did the Bucs have a running game when Brady arrived? They had Ronald Jones before his breakout season and Leonard Fournette wasn’t even an option. And that’s it. Brady was eager to jump to the Bucs because of their pass-first mentality and a strong pass-blocking offensive line.
In June, Brady himself noted the Bucs’ “very favorable passing conditions,” and Joe explained that those who think Brady actually wants to take his foot off the gas aren’t thinking everything through.
So yes, feel good about drafting Brady for your fantasy team next month.
July 12th, 2022 at 5:41 pm
He should always consult with his editors!
July 12th, 2022 at 6:13 pm
Insiders??? LOL wasnt comrade stroud and jenna laine the main culprits during the superbowl run of creating drama??
These insiders are as inside as someone lets them…
July 12th, 2022 at 6:15 pm
Weis is always arguing with somebody and talking like he is the consummate insider. And he is not. He’s far removed. A failure as a coach. No one likes him. Brady’s early Pats playcaller, and was OC when Matt Cassel and Vinny Testaverde had career years and went to the Pro Bowl. Hardly a failure. One of the few radio interviews Brady has done since joining the Bucs was with his buddy Weis. LOL–Joe
July 12th, 2022 at 6:41 pm
I’m with Stroud on this. Brady does not want to pass 50x a game. He’s 45! No way he should have over 700x pass attempts. If Brady wants to pass that much, this team is in serious trouble. If Brady is taking that attitude, it’s so far removed from his usual mind set. This high flying offense may have gone to his head. Moreover, he doesn’t have the requisite weapons he had last year to toss the ball around. Weiss has been wrong before, and we better hope he’s wrong on this. I’ll goes so far as to say that we have no chance at the SB if our senior citizen QB throws 50x a game. I mean no offense to Tommy. I loved the guy since he played at Michigan, but he’s getting older and Father Time comes for us all eventually.
I suggest you look at the last Saints game. We came out throwing the ball, and made absolutely no effort to run the ball and be physical. Brate already suggested that we establish ourselves in the trenches. Stroud seems confident on this issue. I’ll take his word over Weiss.
July 12th, 2022 at 6:59 pm
I have drafted Brady the last two years. Last yr higher than I wanted to because everyone saw what he did in his first yr.
July 12th, 2022 at 7:19 pm
He wants to throw enough times to win, each and every week- that is all
July 12th, 2022 at 7:25 pm
In the Gruden era, after a big meal, I would wait a couple hours and take a huge Stroud.
July 12th, 2022 at 8:00 pm
I doubt TB12 is going to complain if the RBs are taking it to the house from 30-40-50 yards out. Brady wants to win, he wants team success and another ring for them all. I think both Weiss and Stroud missed the mark.
July 12th, 2022 at 8:28 pm
While you got it, flaunt it.
While his body holds out and his brain is so focused, the Bucs be a pass dominant team.
Our future might also be a pass oriented guy, so keep the team pointed that way.
July 12th, 2022 at 8:38 pm
Weis won 2 or 3 SB’s as Brady’s OC. Nit exacy a failed as a coach since the majority of OC’s have none.
July 12th, 2022 at 8:44 pm
I just watched Marcus Grant and his top 10 fantasy QBs and was SHOCKED that TB isn’t even on the list.
He was 3rd last year!!!
I’m guessing no Gronk and no AB plus a Godwin injury swayed it but geez.
Anybody remember TB making some wr named Logan look elite?
I hope he falls
July 12th, 2022 at 8:52 pm
Very insightful.
July 12th, 2022 at 8:59 pm
I agree with everything he says except…. to save the defense a little I believe they will have about 3 – 5 more runs per game this year. I think that comes from Bowles
July 12th, 2022 at 9:27 pm
Of course every QB wants to throw it every down. If the bucs had the stable of horses they did last year, id say go for it. But, this is the weakest group of pass catchers in Brady’s three years in Tampa. If you think he’s throwing 700+ times , you’re going to be disappointed. They didn’t trade for one of the best run blocking guards in the league and draft a mauler at LG to throw 3 out of every 4 plays. They may try it, but without Gronk, AB, and a hobbled Godwin, it won’t work.
Brady will still throw plenty, but not 700 times. This offense will more closely resemble the Patriots. A strong run game, high percentage throws, and solid defense. It’s a throwing league now, but the bucs aren’t equipt to set passing records. BTW, Brady won six rings in NE with strong running attacks, and horizontal passes. The one year they tried to chuck their way to a Superbowl, they got smacked around in the big game.
The stuff about Brady wanting to run more to avoid hits, is laughable though. The man gets rid of the ball as fast as he ever has. He’s also not afraid to throw it away, and live to fight another down.
July 12th, 2022 at 9:34 pm
Huh. The 3-9 season at Notre Dame and 1-11 season as Kansas head coach were BIG successes. His time as UF OC? 100+ in nation. We loved him there. Go (backwards) Gators!
So he got along with Brady. Big deal. Peewee Herman could coach TB and look like a genius. “Hardly a failure?” I guess Joe would consider Lovie Smith a successful coach. I mean, he did get the Bears to the Super Bowl before running the Bucs further aground. Joe, you’re not alone. Someone gave old Lovie one more shot. Maybe Charlie Wei’s could join him. Heaven help Houston.
July 12th, 2022 at 9:57 pm
Don’t get it Joe. Why did my comment just disappear when I hit ‘Submit Comment’? Normally you tell me when I get sent to the dungeon.
July 12th, 2022 at 10:11 pm
ModHair, Weiss couldn’t get a HC gig, after being the OC for a team that won three Superbowls in four years. That doesn’t happen. Most successful OCs get a gig after one ring. He’s a total product of Brady, and left two college programs in ruins. You’re right
Funny story, during team meals, he’d wait for the bacon hotel pan to be empty, then sop up the grease with white bread. I always loved Charlie, but there’s a reason he wasn’t a successful coach after Brady.
July 12th, 2022 at 10:12 pm
Defense, it’s happening to me too.
July 12th, 2022 at 10:45 pm
I think too, run the ball more to help the defense rest. But use some imagination, try something besides up the middle on 1st down. Try misdirection or a sweep or anything. If I was the opposing defense I would put 12 guys over the center on 1st down. And put 9 guys back in deep coverage on 3rd and 1. Other than that, my wife has an orgasm every time Brady drops back to pass. She says let him throw the dam ball. I agree. Their both fun to watch then.
July 13th, 2022 at 5:35 am
Like Bucsfan13, I’m with Stroud on this too. A pass-first approach may work well against average & poor defenses, but against top defenses … with an effective pass rush … it’s a prescription for disaster.
Last season we went 14-5 (regular season & playoffs), losing twice to the Saints, twice to the Rams & once to Washington. All 3 teams had very good pass rushes. Bucs ended up turning the ball over 9 times in those 5 losses … almost 2 TOs/game. For the season though, Bucs averaged roughly 1 TO/game (21 TOs in 19 games), so we were double that in our losses. Brady also was sacked 13 times in those 5 losses … a MUCH higher sack rate than in our 14 victories. And oh ya, Bucs lost the TOP in 3 of those 5 losses by quite a bit, and barely broke even in the other 2 losses.
July 13th, 2022 at 5:37 am
Can’t afford to be predictable against top defenses, and that’s what we were. In our 5 losses last season, our opponents ran CONSIDERABLY MORE than we did.
o Rams Game 1: Bucs – 13 rushes (18.3% run-pass ratio); Rams – 24 rushes (38.1% run-pass ratio).
o Saints Game 1: Bucs – 14 rushes (24.1% run-pass ratio); Saints – 32 rushes (44.4% run-pass ratio).
o Washington Game: Bucs – 13 rushes (27.7% run-pass ratio); Washington – 34 rushes (46.6% run-pass ratio).
o Saints Game 2: Bucs – 21 rushes (28.8% run-pass ratio); Saints – 31 rushes (51.7% run-pass ratio).
o Rams Game 2: Bucs – 14 rushes (19.7% run-pass ratio); Rams – 30 rushes (42.9% run-pass ratio).
Bottom line in our losses: Bucs’ offense was very predictable in terms of play-calling, which aided our opponents pass rush. Our opponents used a MORE BALANCED ATTACK, kept us guessing, wore down our defense (pretty quickly in most of those losses), and won each of those games. And for those who say that Tom Brady would pass on every down if allowed to, that’s horsepuckey. Tom Brady is all about WINNING, and if it took running the ball on every play to do that, Tom Brady would be first in line to bless that approach.
July 13th, 2022 at 6:27 am
Weiss is as inside as it gets with Brady. Brady sat in the hospital with the man every day when he was sick. If anybody knows , it’s him. Stroud should’ve realized who he was talking to before spouting off about Brady’s mindset.
July 13th, 2022 at 6:29 am
I’ll say it for Stroud, “WE do not want to see Brady taking too many hits.”
Our offense is unbalanced and too pass heavy. It’s both a strength and a weakness. For us to be a better offense overall, we MUST run the ball more effectively.
Since football is a complementary sport, running the ball maintains TOP which also keeps our defense off the field.
July 13th, 2022 at 6:56 am
One and done in the playoffs if D doesn’t step up. 30 points per game isn’t happen this season, too many newbies.
July 13th, 2022 at 7:39 am
Stroud’s an i***t and always has been.
July 13th, 2022 at 8:05 am
DR you need to be a special adviser to Todd. Because I have a feeling you also have some fact based insights on his defensive calls when they’re getting shredded like it’s Lovie against the Titans.
July 13th, 2022 at 9:11 am
Yeah I’d put my money with Stroud on this one.
July 13th, 2022 at 9:27 am
Know it all know nothings the lot of ya
July 13th, 2022 at 12:30 pm
Football is a chess game and every play at the line of scrimmage is a strategic move, on either side of the ball. You can say the Bucs want to run more but not on a play when the box is stacked. Sure, Brady calls the OC’s play in the huddle but has the authority to change it at the line depending on the strategic alignment on defense. Brady is a fierce competitor and wants his team to move down the field and score every time, run or pass. Many so-called expert “talking
heads” claimed Brady was passing so much last year just to pad his career stats…I call BS on all of them. Brady has been to the promise land 10 times and winning 7, (unheard of in NFL history) he’s tasted the golden nectar there of success and he wants to take his team back there to drink from the same cup.
Run more, throw more makes no difference to Brady. He’s a WINNER and will do everything he can for his team to win.
July 13th, 2022 at 3:14 pm
DR, that sounds great if you’re defending the run but I would bet the ratio was close or less run balanced in the majority of Bucs wins.
July 14th, 2022 at 11:26 am
Joe please stop the LOLing like you’re a 13 yesr old girl. Ass hat.