Breakout!
June 30th, 2022
National scribe expects big year.
Joe has a couple of questions about the defense that only will be answered after a handful of games.
Joe doesn’t believe in banking on hope. Especially when trying to return to the Super Bowl. But it seems that is exactly what the Bucs are doing on the defensive front with rookie Logan Hall, Joe Tryon-Shoyinka stepping up to make people forget about Jason Pierre-Paul, and injury-prone free agent Akiem Hicks.
That’s a lot of hope in Joe’s eyes.
But hold up! Adam Rank of NFL.com doesn’t believe Bucs fans should worry about JTS. In fact, Rank is of the mind JTS is going to break out to become a bonafide stud.
2022 breakout star: Joe Tryon-Shoyinka, outside linebacker. It seemed like everyone made such a huge deal about all of the starters that returned to the Bucs last year, but they did add some young talent along the way for the future of the organization. Tryon-Shoyinka, a first-round pick in 2021, is expected to take over for Jason Pierre-Paul at outside linebacker, and he could be on the cusp of a major leap. He posted four sacks last year, despite playing just half of the defensive snaps. This is mostly me forecasting here, but I could see him getting double-digit sacks playing in this system, given his talent.
Man, if JTS can get double-digit sacks, not only would that mean a great deal to the defense, but teams wouldn’t be able to focus so much on Bucs sack king Shaq Barrett. Leave him single-covered and watch the hell out.
If JTS gets double-digit sacks this fall, Joe thinks the Bucs defense has the capability of stomping out opposing offenses, not just slowing them down enough to win.
June 30th, 2022 at 11:20 am
He will be a force this year. Get em JTS and give ole man Shaq a reason to step up again.
June 30th, 2022 at 11:21 am
My guess is along those lines you describe. I think the D will be very strong. Lots of reasons.
June 30th, 2022 at 11:36 am
It’ll be interesting to watch how the snaps get divided between JTS & Nelson once camp starts. Statistically, Nelson tallied 22 combined tackles, 7 TFLS, and 5 sacks on 358 defensive snaps which is < 33% of the defensive snaps. Tryon in his rookie campaign, 29 combined tackles, 5 TFLs, and 4 sacks on 560 snaps which is a play or two away from being 50% of the defensive snaps. Not saying one has to be greater than the other, but I don't know who I'd bet on in a hypothetical "race to 10 sacks" wager.
June 30th, 2022 at 11:52 am
I had called him “bounce back” player before, but “break out” sounds nice as well. He seems to have put on some much needed weight. If Hall can be as quick and strong off the line as they say he can, that is big opportunity for JTS to get to the QB.
June 30th, 2022 at 11:53 am
JPP Rookie Year = 4.5 sacks
JTS Rookie Year = 4 sacks (got robbed of one game 1)
JPP 2nd Year = 15 sacks
So, JTS will get 14.5 sacks (plus he’ll be robbed of 1)
June 30th, 2022 at 12:00 pm
If JTS plays well enough to attract attention away from Shaq, then that should be good enough because Shaq is the sack master.
June 30th, 2022 at 12:18 pm
I wana get his jersey but I’ll give it a few games
June 30th, 2022 at 12:34 pm
I sure as hell hope so. He’s got a crazy first step. Hopefully he’s working on his pass-rush repertoire this offseason.
June 30th, 2022 at 12:54 pm
Suh.
June 30th, 2022 at 12:57 pm
Suh. Suh.
June 30th, 2022 at 1:01 pm
@Dooley
I agree with your take! Obviously a First Round pick gets the ink and eyeballs.
I think JTS is ready for a great season.
But as you point out Nelson is the “Rodney Dangerfield” of our DL. He’s not a pro bowler but he is an excellent DL. Like you I want to see how much of an opportunity he gets considering his solid numbers last year.
June 30th, 2022 at 1:01 pm
Yes, he has put on some bulk, that is needed at the NFL Level, and as long as it does not slow him down, I can see him being a double digit guy.
Excited about Logan Hall too, and Aikeem Hicks.
Hicks is a total beast when healthy and motivated.
Lol, how can any defensive player NOT be motivated, with Tom Brady on the other side of the ball!
June 30th, 2022 at 1:51 pm
This is Lichts VH3 in waiting. I’d just blame the Russians.
June 30th, 2022 at 1:55 pm
Thanks Biff. That’s the l kind of spirit a real Bucs fan needs to win a super bowl.
June 30th, 2022 at 2:02 pm
Hope Plan 9 becomes a player rather than an observer.
June 30th, 2022 at 2:49 pm
I just want the season to begin!! Then any only then will the speculation end and the reality begin. Go Bucs!!.
June 30th, 2022 at 3:07 pm
I hope so. I’m not quite feeling it but I sure hope he can play up to his abilities.
June 30th, 2022 at 3:24 pm
@STPetebucsfan
Nelson is a really good example of the team sticking with a player on his rookie deal and having the personnel at the top of the roster to let an underneath develop. Sets the edge better than any of our other OLBs taking advantage of his 6’7 frame, not as athletic or twitchy as Shaq or even JTS, but what he lacks in explosivity he makes up for with a great motor and good hand usage.
Lowkey one of my favorite defenders, and if anybody remembers his performance against the Jets, at one point in the game they started running AWAY from Nelsons’ side lol! Last 3 games of the year he had a sack in each contest. Again not saying he’ll be better than JTS, but in terms of snaps in 2021 Nelson did just as much with less opportunities than JTS.
June 30th, 2022 at 3:33 pm
#8 & Goatfarmer … Joe nailed it right up front. I agree totally … don’t like banking on HOPE as a strategy. Too many unknown variables in this current defensive front.
Bring Suh back and stop screwing around. We need to add some ‘nasty’.
June 30th, 2022 at 5:15 pm
Well, Im pulling for him, but he wasnt a pick of mine…Mr. Licht got back to me this last draft with the pick of Logan Hall! Watch that kid have a great rookie season, trust me!!! And he can play DE too….yall will see. But I still have a lot of hope for JTS. I hope he turns into JPP 2.0….
If not, we need to trade up for Will Anderson Jr. next year. Yes it will cost us…the price you pay when building a dynasty but it will be worth it!!!!
June 30th, 2022 at 5:54 pm
JTS was athletic, but raw and technically lacking from the get go, and not the ideal weight. Bottom line, a lot of work was needed. Let’s see.
They should still sign a veteran for the season. There just isn’t enough firepower (no, there isn’t yet) to be a SB contender.
June 30th, 2022 at 6:17 pm
Pretty much it, steele.
I wish the Bucs would hedge their bets on JTS or any DL injury by signing Trey Flowers. Unlike the over-touted Suh, Flowers is versatile.
July 1st, 2022 at 6:24 am
If Trask had been a first rounder, and played, and underperformed like JTS, Joe and the Haters would be howling. But JTS is the right color so, like Tua, he gets a pass.
July 1st, 2022 at 11:05 am
He’s got the speed. Hopefully he’s been able to work on the power this offseason and can put it all together.