“They Thought He Would Go Earlier Than That”
May 11th, 2022
Did Todd Bowles get his man?
A prominent NFL voice with a direct pipeline to One Buc Palace says the Buccaneers drafted their Day 1 starting left guard 12 days ago.
The pick was Central Michigan tackle Luke Goedeke at No. 57 overall.
Lots of Bucs fans are barking about how Super Bowl right guard Aaron Stinnie could be/should be filling the hole at left guard left by Ali Marpet’s retirement. And some hardcore fans want to see what’s in the tank of 2020’s late third-round pick, Robert Hainsey, when he competes for the job.
But NFL Network’s Peter Schrager was firm on the airwaves last week saying the Bucs got their Day 1 starter in Goedeke.
Joe knows Schrager has had a relationship with Bucs general manager Jason Licht before he was with Tampa Bay, and Schrager gets his calls answered when he reaches out to One Buc Palace.
“Marpet is going to be replaced by Luke Goedeke,” Schrager began. ” … Tough as nails and is going to slide right into that Marpet role at guard. … He was drafted in the 50s; they thought he would go earlier than that.”
Schrager characterized the Bucs as “thrilled” and again repeated that Goedeke will be the starter, “a 23 year old man who is ready to play and ready to play right now to protect Tom Brady.”
Rookie guards start and succeed all the time from many rounds of the draft. Brady dealt with that in New England back in 2014, 2015 and 2016. He won a Super Bowl with the first one, the second was Shaq Mason, and the third, Joe Thuney, played great and eventually moved on in free agency to protect Patrick Mahomes.
Still, plenty of rookie guards fail.
Jackson Carmon was drafted No. 46 overall by the Bengals last season and was part of the crew that nearly got quarterback Joe Burrow killed. He’s been replaced in free agency.
Two picks after Carmon, the 49ers drafted Notre Dame guard Aaron Banks. He underwhelmed and couldn’t crack the San Francisco lineup.
Joe hopes for a healthy competition at left guard. But Joe also believes Schrager’s claim that the Bucs just got their man in the draft, assuming he’s ready to hit the ground running.
May 11th, 2022 at 3:21 pm
Marpet was not just a guard, he was a Pro Bowl Guard not an easy act to follow
May 11th, 2022 at 3:22 pm
Jason always over values players
May 11th, 2022 at 3:48 pm
2 REFLECTIONS ON GOEDEKE
1. Licht knows how to pick Guards. Not worried about the talent.
2. The Bucs should have selected Nkobe Dean. LVD is healing and old.
Kuddos to this fan base. How many fans talk about OL, let alone Guards?
May 11th, 2022 at 3:51 pm
Our line is full of 2 round or later picks. outside of Whirfs. Pretty standard to find starting lineman later in the draft. This makes total sense
May 11th, 2022 at 3:56 pm
Licht is unquestionably good at drafting offensive linemen and I’d be surprised if Goedeke did not start.
May 11th, 2022 at 4:24 pm
“I’d be surprised if Goedeke did not start.”
Me too. I’m guessing he may piss a few players off in camp just based on his playing style and playing through the whistle. Jensen seems to do that too, should be fun to watch. I’m rooting for all the rooks
May 11th, 2022 at 4:44 pm
Actually Carmen has not been replace at left guard. Do your homework. Cincy got a center, right guard, and right tackle.
May 11th, 2022 at 5:06 pm
Licht got nervous and gave up the first pick in the 6th round to select Goedeke…….i am quite sure he plans for him to start…..and, I’d be surprised if he isn’t quite good.
As for replacing Ali Marpet…..nope….but neither would Stennie or Hainsey.
Mason could do it but why move him from his natural position.
May 11th, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Between acquiring Shaq Mason and Goedeke to surround Jensen, and drafting those 2 big tight ends that can help block and give Gronk more rest if he does decide to play this year, I’m really hoping that the Bucs can run the ball at will this season. That would be such a huge difference maker for Tom Brady, if the defense can’t consistently drop 7-8 back in coverage due to the threat of the running game, he’ll eat you alive, especially with the weapons at his disposal. Plus more consistent rushing means longer drives, which means a more rested defensive unit. Really pulling for this new interior line and the rookie TE’s
May 11th, 2022 at 5:10 pm
This is just cheerleading! Not once was Goedeke thought to go as high as 57. Much less earlier than that. Let’s be honest, everyone was surprised when they read his name. When they traded up to 57 not one person was yelling at their TV saying ” Take Goedeke”. Now, that being said I hope he was worthy of the pick….. seems like a good guy.
May 11th, 2022 at 5:17 pm
Thought by who? Schrager talks with just about every GM in the league. You?
May 11th, 2022 at 6:01 pm
BUCman Says:
May 11th, 2022 at 5:10 pm
The draft media speculation bubble doesn’t always know what GMs actually think. They want you to think they do… And Licht knows more than you.
May 11th, 2022 at 6:11 pm
I think I’ll watch him play a few games before I vote him into the pro bowl.
May 11th, 2022 at 6:20 pm
Licht’s specialty is finding solid starting lineman in rounds 2 and 3…
Smith, Marpet, Cappa… Hainsey?
Wirfs was a first round pick but Licht nailed that pick as well.
If there is one thing Licht has proven successful at it’s drafting O-lineman.
The more film I watch on Goedeke the more I think it was another solid pick.
May 11th, 2022 at 6:33 pm
I think that they thought minn. was gonna take him so they moved in front. Maybe we have P.E.(premature evaluations)…. I don’t know. PFF had him 62 😂so who knows …time..the revalator…(great song by Gillian Welch) …
May 11th, 2022 at 7:29 pm
Sounds good to me.
May 11th, 2022 at 7:38 pm
If he beats out the other guys and is a day 1 starter, then another great offensive line pick by Licht.
BUT, I’d hold off a bit on anointing anyone the starter and let them compete and win the job.
May 11th, 2022 at 8:04 pm
He thought the punter was gonna go earlier than that too!!
May 11th, 2022 at 8:43 pm
SlyPirate, why do you think the Bucs should have taken Dean? Do you prefer undersized linebackers that refused to run the 40 and have injury red flags? Other than that, he seems pretty risk free. I don’t know anyone that didn’t run the 40 because they’re fast.
May 11th, 2022 at 9:23 pm
licht is being smart…tommy b is so outta here once he doesn’t have a beastly savage line in front of him…
as long as tom wants to play, and as long as we offer him up the best available group of trench-men…is as long as tom will stay…
remember some of the garbage o-lines of the past?
May 11th, 2022 at 9:26 pm
sure tyreek hill is a lure in miami…
why do you think the bucs brought in a boatload of little speedy undrafted receivers for a test run…
we are literally competing with miami for his services right now and moving forward…
we just have to one up every move miami tries to make to lure tom away…
#JustGiveTommyBeeMoreAndMore
May 11th, 2022 at 10:31 pm
^^ If we haven’t done enough already to make him happy, I’m perfectly willing to let him go to Miami. Knock yerself out Tom. See how that goes. I’m not getting into a stupid game for his services. Besides, this is probably his last year. If it weren’t, why would he be doing this stupid crap planning his NFL broadcasting job.
May 12th, 2022 at 5:24 am
Gotta keep the troops healthy this year. I believe that’s the main reason we didn’t repeat. Talent is there, coaches know what their doing, just can’t keep losing key players every week. Getting the bye week would have helped last year also. GOBUCS!
May 12th, 2022 at 5:54 am
Football teams are built from the inside out, smart to go trenches. If they were so great on the O line as some on here said, then why did they go with Luke with the 2nd pick in the 2 round. As far as keeping Tommy happy, this not only does that, but when Tommy Boy rides off to land at Fox, the next Bucs QB will then be helped. Common Sense move. I said to go O line D-Line Secondary, or D-Line O-Line secondary. And thats what they did with the first 2 picks.
BTW if winning a championship is what it is about, why not keep TB12 happy?
All the years I have watched the Bucs lose games since 1976. Sorry winning is what it is about. Very thankful for the last couple of years, adding a 2nd Lombardi Trophy. With a real chance to win a 3rd this year.
GO BUCS!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!
May 12th, 2022 at 8:03 am
If the Bucs or any other team in the NFL thought Stinnie was a starting guard he would have signed for more money and more years than what he did.
It’s Goedeke’s job to lose.
May 12th, 2022 at 8:47 am
Rookie guards do start all the time in the NFL , but Goedeke is not a rookie guard , he is a rookie right tackle hoping he can transition to a completely different position at LG. Former NFL standout lineman Geoff Schwartz describes it this way “I get asked this question more than any other. The majority of people believe switching positions is easy because they’ve never done it before. Moving from side to side is easy for some, but most often, it takes a while to adjust. Switching from one side to the other is “like wiping your ass with the other hand.”
Everything is awkward and different. I had to switch from the right side to the left side (LG) a couple times in my career. It always went bad. ALWAYS. I was never comfortable at left guard. I’d always punch like I was at right tackle and when I was being bull-rushed, I’d switch my stagger to anchor the bull like a right guard, thus allowing myself to get beat inside. This is a pro saying it always went bad.
A much better selection would have been Ed Ingram of LSU an ALL-SEC true Left Guard.
May 12th, 2022 at 9:53 am
@BFS1976: T–>G is a vastly easier transition in the NFL than G–>T.
G—>T is like learning to fight in an SUV. T—>G is like learning to fight in a phone booth. L to R or R to L transition is a matter of athletics, and both Marpet and Glass Eater are special athletic specimens (GA started football life as a credible TE.)
I have no doubt Glass Eater will be fine at LG and we will hardly miss Marpet, at least not like replacing Marpet with a meek stiff.
Remember, Marpet went from LT to RG and barely skipped a beat.
A minor issue is Glass Eater faced better competition at Central Michigan than Marpet did at Hobart. That matters.
I do have a major concern about Glass Eater: health. He has a distinct history with significant injuries.