Will Shaq Barrett Have Help?
March 22nd, 2022
Pro Bowl OLB Shaq Barrett.
One of Joe’s favorite players is Bucs sack king Shaq Barrett. He came from nowhere to be among the best pass rushers in franchise history virtually overnight.
So last year Shaq had 51 quarterback pressures. Very good, but Joe also knows that when the Bucs got help with pressure from the opposite side of the field, Shaq went from good to downright scary good.
Joe also is a big fan of Joe Tryon-Shoyinka, but Joe isn’t sure if JTS is ready to take over full-time for Jason Pierre-Paul. JTS showed flashes he could be special but in a defense that prioritizes stopping the run, JTS needs work there.
Yesterday the Cowboys, who were rumored to be sniffing around JPP, signed Dante Fowler, who cannot hold JPP’s jock when JPP is healthy. Perhaps JPP’s injury, age and lousy 2021 spooked Jerry Jones? He wouldn’t be the only one.
Joe hopes that the Bucs can bring back JPP on the cheap. (Fowler’s deal can be worth up to $5 million this season.) There simply is little market for a 33-year-old coming off one of his worst seasons and major shoulder surgery in February. For that reason Joe is hoping JPP signs a prove-it contract with the Bucs.
Shaq is a good pass rusher on his own. But he turns into a total beast when someone from the other edge prevents teams from double- or triple-teaming him.
Shaquil Barrett: 51 QB Pressures last year 🔥🔥🔥
1 of 5 players to force 50 QB Pressures during the regular season pic.twitter.com/W0VzELyus4
— PFF TB Buccaneers (@PFF_Buccaneers) March 22, 2022
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:06 am
I truly believe we will draft a pass rusher in the first 3 rounds…..
Depending on the player available……DT, DE, DT….or DT, DE, CB in no particular order.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:07 am
Yes. The bucs will move up for Thibedeaux.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:07 am
Could we end up drafting another puss rushing edge player in round 1? Perhaps, although interior DL needs more help.
I kinda think JPP probably is on the downslope towards ineffectiveness and might be worth bringing back once his shoulder is 100%, if he plays for close to minimum and we haven’t added a younger player before summer.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:08 am
JPP is a very smart player when he cant get to the QB he will try to block the pass. Plus he is funny as hell.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:08 am
Going by last year if bucs stay put its slim picking for pass rushers in the draft
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:16 am
Get 2-3 impact players in the draft.
Package late round picks & wr for an extra 3rd to a wr needy team.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:19 am
Good logic, Joe. A “prove it” contract sounds likely and doable. Still, as many here suggest, need to pick up an edge rusher in the draft. JTS and Nelson are still iffy.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:26 am
JPP will be decided after the draft, IMO
He is a Warrior!
His body is broken down and I would not bet on him being able to suit up for a full season and especially at the end when it really counts.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:31 am
That picture makes me cringe. I realize we didnt play the Packers last year. But i also know someone going theough a rotatir cuff tear. How can JPP play this game in that condition? Even at a reduced rate? He is a tough bastage! I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:33 am
Who do the bucs have on that DL besides vea right now?
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:39 am
We have nacho!
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:42 am
They probably do sign someone probably another older vet that isnt jpp who will just be a situational pass rusher they they can get for cheap and they may draft a defensive tackle don’t think they draft another edge. I still think they draft a wide receiver and if Zion is there at 27 they might find it hard to pass up definitely will draft a safety and running back.
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:49 am
love him…. loved Rice
but their time has passed
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:52 am
I see a defensive draft, looking to add speed……the only fonsive need is another TE…..But this draft will be all about defense
March 22nd, 2022 at 12:07 pm
Agree with zzbucs. A defensive draft coming up. Some new fast blood is in store.
March 22nd, 2022 at 12:15 pm
Sometimes you have to force people to retire when they won’t listen to their bodies. A pass on JPP. We need youth. JTS isn’t going to get better by half timing it. Let the man play so he can grow. And either draft another player for depth or at least someone who’s going to play more than maybe this season and then retire. Come on now. This trying to hold onto all of these broken-down players whose time has passed is getting tired.
March 22nd, 2022 at 12:15 pm
JTS & Devin White suffer from the fact theyre both fast and aggressive, which leads to alot of overpursuit which can be mistaken for them being taken out of plays. JTS figures out how to play the run on the way to the QB he’ll be fine, just gotta fine tune the instinct he’s shown to cheat inside and get better at setting the edge. Also FA has made so we could plausibly walk away from the draft having selected a new DT & OLB/DE
March 22nd, 2022 at 12:18 pm
Very weak def end draft and with top player from michigan tearing achilles at proday, all the ones who would be able to contribute right Way will be gone.
Bucs need to sign a cheap free agent like jpp or justin houston or melvin ingrAm at or below 5 per year
Bucs can get def tackle and corner with early picks to contribute unless they still feel guard is more important.
March 22nd, 2022 at 12:56 pm
By “prove it”, do you mean a contract with incentives?
March 22nd, 2022 at 1:01 pm
Will need to draft on defensive side early for DT DE and Corner. Also adding a third high risk high reward pure pass catching TE would be good.
March 22nd, 2022 at 1:06 pm
With JTS, at least you have a “body” there even if he’s still raw. Who replaces Suh and Gholston? That’s more concerning to me. Suh logs a ton of snaps.
March 22nd, 2022 at 1:07 pm
It will be a passrushing DT/DE in the first unless we trade back and try to add value to other positions likes CB/WR/DT/TE/RB
March 22nd, 2022 at 1:14 pm
Is Calias Campbell still available?
Or even Carl Nassib?
I would love a healthy JPP tied to a two year deal. And Suh.
Losing Will Gohlston may hurt us a bit.
March 22nd, 2022 at 1:23 pm
The Bucs badly need DL and CB help.
Not sure how much the draft can help for this season. JTS needs to put it together right quick. (doubt it will happen)
March 22nd, 2022 at 1:28 pm
Does Tom have fletcher Cox’s phone number?
March 22nd, 2022 at 1:36 pm
Bird–agree
March 22nd, 2022 at 2:08 pm
Looks like we are gonna be the same as last year. Great Offense and a so-so Defense.
March 22nd, 2022 at 2:15 pm
Let JPP regenerate for the first 8 weeks.
Bring him back in week 9.
I guarantee he will finish the year with 10 sacks!
He is a Demi-God!
He deserves to retire a Buc! This contract is about honor!
He should stay a Buc for life!
March 22nd, 2022 at 2:26 pm
BUCS WILL TRADE UP IN THE DRAFT.
I can see them moving up to take one of the top corners OR DT.
I think you let JPP retire if he doesn’t sign elsewhere. Many games last year it seemed like he was just out there taking up space when someone else could be playing more.
I think you unleash JTS and let him gets lots of playing time and just see how he develops. Then we draft some later round DE/Edge prospects that can rotate in and maybe turn out be hidden gems from the draft.
CORNERBACK IT IS IN ROUND #1 IS MY HUNCH.
March 22nd, 2022 at 2:36 pm
Have you bumped your head Brady Bucs?
CB May have been a first round option if we didn’t re-sign CD but now it is OFF the Books! Jeesh I’m glad you don’t run this team
March 22nd, 2022 at 2:48 pm
maybe bring him back with the understanding he will play more inside, he was moved inside quite a bit in this offense, reduced rate, reduced time, inside vs outside
March 22nd, 2022 at 2:48 pm
defense
March 22nd, 2022 at 2:51 pm
The problem with JTS is that a 1-armed JPP was still better against the run…
March 22nd, 2022 at 3:25 pm
JPP is so great, as an inspiration.
He may have to ear his crow and play for $ a mill.
March 22nd, 2022 at 3:31 pm
Unless there is a DE they absolutely love who falls to them, thr Bucs should trade back (2nd & 3rd rd pucks) and pick up both a DE and DT in the 2nd round. There are a number of very good players who should be available (Jones from UCON, Hall from UH, Wyatt from UGA to name a few). Then go RB, TE and G in the 3rd and 4th rds.
March 22nd, 2022 at 4:07 pm
BradyPats – why not just go back to your favorite team?
March 22nd, 2022 at 4:20 pm
I think Tryon is going to be just fine. He had the sort of rookie year you should expect from a rookie pass rusher – and I’d expect a big jump in production in his 2nd year. Still, if you can afford to bring JPP back – after getting Gronk, Gholston and Suh resigned, then sure, do it, but they should get those other guys done first.
March 22nd, 2022 at 4:24 pm
Also Tryon’s production is why you don’t want to draft defensive lineman and expect them to start right away. Rarely do defensive lineman play well their rookie years. Even the immortal first ballot HOFer Warren Sapp only had 3.0 sacks and 28 tackles in his rookie year. Betting on rookie defensive lineman is very dangerous – and it’s why you’d really want to wrap up those Gholston and Suh resignings, or have some let Plan B options – and taking a DE in the 2nd round, isn’t a legit Plan B option, not for their rookie year.
March 22nd, 2022 at 4:53 pm
If JPP comes back, it’s going to be ugly. For the Saints. The Falcons and the Panthers.
March 22nd, 2022 at 5:05 pm
JPP is washed up and refuses to play the run. Let him walk.
March 22nd, 2022 at 5:58 pm
I agree with Bellicheck.
CB is an overrated position.
Bellicheck values edge pass rush, interior line, LB’s and safeties.
Bellicheck views CB as not that valuable.
1st Team All Pro Jalen Ramsey was torched by TB12 and ME13 in their playoff game.
1st Team All Pro Jalen Ramsey was torched by Joe Burtow and Tee Higgins/Jamar Chase.
Von Miller and Aaron Donald were much bigger impacts towards the Rams playoff and Super Bowl Victory against the Bucs and Bengals than 1st Team All Pro CB Jalen Ramsey.
If the Rams lost, Ramsey would have been blamed by fans. The Bucs need More Pass Rush from their DT and DE.
CB is a wasted pick in my opinion in definitely round 1 and possibly 2.
March 22nd, 2022 at 7:57 pm
That picture is AWESOME!!!
March 22nd, 2022 at 10:17 pm
So Shaq has help in way of Terron Armstead signing with the Dolphins–awesome news! don’t get hit by the door on your way ot! good riddance! hate the saints
March 22nd, 2022 at 10:20 pm
images of Jameis getting a face full of Shaq Barrett and backing up and throwing a long ball pick to Carlton Davis. Image of Jameis getting Shaq in the face and a strip sack and fumble recovery by Suh or any of them Lol! Losing Terron Armstead is worth a celebration!
March 22nd, 2022 at 11:46 pm
Maybe they’re letting JPP test the market so they can offer him something they can afford
OR
They’re worried about the injuries. He has had a remarkable career with the injuries he has come back from but a major shoulder injury for a D lineman trying to rush the QB is really scary.
Nelson came on strong the second half of the season and JTS shows a lot of promise… Maybe they’re counting on them?
It all seems like a big gamble when you bring Brady back and you’re going all in to win one more.
The draft has a lot of good D lineman and depth, they could draft one in the first 2 rounds but it is extremely rare that an edge rusher comes in as a rookie and produces.
March 23rd, 2022 at 2:54 am
Shaq is fine, but needs help. Tryon, disappointing, wasn’t technically great coming out of college and needs development, or he will simply be a depth guy. Gholston, a good teammate and a pretty solid rotational, but not a terror.
I’m sick of seeing other teams loaded with pass rushers and killers across their defense. I’m sick of seeing the names disappear off of the FA list every day. Same old won’t get it done.
Bucs have to take this opportunity to be ruthless. Sign a Melvin Ingram/Akiem Hicks/Jerry Hughes/Justin Houston/Clowney/Carlos Dunlap. Calais, if he still has tread left.
AND draft a A.Ebekite/Logan Hall/Perion Winfrey/Myjai Sanders/Sam Williams etc.
March 23rd, 2022 at 5:29 pm
JPP can also flip a switch and immediately ENERGIZE the Team. He does it both by turning it WAY UP on the field by example and is a VOICE on the sidelines, locker room and on the field. Great morale builder. Imagine JPP playing without shoulder pain and limited range of motion?