Joe Tryon-Shoyinka Working Out With Sackmeisters
March 26th, 2022
Not resting in offseason.
Joe normally doesn’t like to write about players working out in the offseason. OMG, professional athletes trying to stay in shape — the nerve!
But this time it piqued Joe’s interest.
After showing promise as an NFL pass rusher in his rookie season after sitting out the 2020 season at Washington due to The Sickness, Bucs edge rusher Joe Tryon-Shoyinka could easily have had a relaxing offseason and just been content with hollering from the balcony of his downtown Tampa condo about Tom Brady returning.
Instead, JTS decided to attend a pass-rushing camp at Michigan State run by noted pass-rushing coach Brandon Jordan, who has a cult following with NFL players. Some attendees at Jordan’s camp last week included Haason Reddick and Rashan Gary. In the past, Jordan has worked with Von Miller, Chandler Jones, TJ Watt, Jeffery Simmons and Ed Oliver to fine-tune their pass-rushing skills.
Jordan has sort of a Svengali-like reputation among defensive linemen. Bruce Feldman of The Athletic did a profile on Jordan recently. Jordan is on the staff at Michigan State and he used to run his own business training defensive linemen in Texas. LSU tried to hire him a few years ago but due to NCAA rules at the time, Jordan could not coach because he had college football players as clients.
Snacks Harrison is a former client of Jordan’s and Harrison raved about how much Jordan helped him.
“They were things that I’d never seen before and in the way that he combined them and put drills together,” Harrison said. “We would do the basic bag drills but you wouldn’t see them in sequences like he had, which made him so popular. It was that nobody was doing them at the time, and he went about perfecting it. I literally took everything that he taught me and tried to apply it to the football field.”
The 6-3, 350-pounder noticed a big difference in his play that year. He felt much more explosive and more confident, he said. His TFL and QB pressure totals were better than they’d ever been.
“I was able to do some things that I wasn’t able to do in the past just because I’d never practiced them before. Even though you’re a nose tackle you’re going to go thru the same drills as the defensive ends did. In the NFL, nose tackles usually go off to the side and let the smaller guys do those drills. When I came back even the coaches were shocked and surprised—Oh, man, when did you learn how to do that?”
Jordan was an intern coach recently with Arizona while former Bucs defensive line coach Brentson Buckner was there. Buckner, per Feldman, was so impressed with Jordan that he called his friend, Michigan State coach Mel Tucker, and told Tucker he needed to hire Jordan, which he did.
So what is Joe getting at here? Joe impressed that JTS decided to pay to work with a guy who has a resume and experience helping out great pass rushers. Joe thinks that says a lot about JTS.
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— Coach Brandon Jordan (@CoachBTJordan) March 26, 2022
March 26th, 2022 at 8:08 am
I like that JTS is making the effort. It’s a sign that he’s hungry.
March 26th, 2022 at 8:10 am
JTS knows he is going to replace JPP.
Another great pick by Licht. Tryon has the right attitude.
LFG!!!!
March 26th, 2022 at 8:36 am
He needs work on anchoring the edge.
March 26th, 2022 at 8:38 am
JTS is so young, with so much promise!!! If JTS works hard he will be a difference maker for the Bucs!! Hopefully that starts this year!!!!
March 26th, 2022 at 8:43 am
Much better than sitting around eating cheeseburgers with Swaggy…
March 26th, 2022 at 8:45 am
I believe once he’s let off the leash this year we’ll see him have the success he had at Washington…this maybe the hardest year to predict which position we’ll draft, but if we see a top 2/3 cornerback fall to us it’s a must we take him if those freaks from Georgia Dline aren’t available
March 26th, 2022 at 8:48 am
It’s behind a paywall, but interestingly enough the article starts out with Gerald McCoy of all people calling his teammate Maxx Crosby about Jones. Apparently they both worked with him. McCoy got injured in Vegas, but obviously Crosby has had great success. Will be interesting to see the hopeful improvements.
March 26th, 2022 at 8:49 am
Like it. Like it a lot.
March 26th, 2022 at 9:00 am
The kid needs more experience and more strength. When it all comes together though, watch out! Keep working young man!
March 26th, 2022 at 9:23 am
Kids gonna be a stud this season
March 26th, 2022 at 9:31 am
Good for JTS but, let’s not confuse activity with results.
We’ll either be praising or cursing Licht next season’s end.
March 26th, 2022 at 9:33 am
Hope he gets work on his tendency to over pursue and also his run stuffing skills.
He has the speed and ability to get into the backfield. Too many times though, we just see the quarterback side step him and watch him zip right past.
That same speed is used against him in the run game.
High hopes for this kid. As they always say, “You can’t coach speed”.
The skills to utilize that speed will come with time, experience, and coaching. But most of all, with the desire to improve.
March 26th, 2022 at 10:03 am
Nice. I hope he stops rocking back and forth before the snap. That to me, looks like it would affect his timing if he’s on his heels and the ball is snapped. But what do I know, I only stayed at a Holiday Inn.
March 26th, 2022 at 10:03 am
I hope he bulked up 10-15lbs this offseason…
March 26th, 2022 at 10:26 am
Looking forward to watching him this season. He has all the attributes, just needs to utilize them, and play more under control.
March 26th, 2022 at 10:29 am
After having so many failures with premium pick edge rushers, keeping my expectations realistic though. Gaines Adams, Bowers, clayborn(he wasn’t a total bust). The list goes on and on.
March 26th, 2022 at 10:48 am
Good. He needs to do more of that. Needs to stop with the headless chicken thing, too.
March 26th, 2022 at 11:02 am
Hopefully he’s added a bit of strength and some pass rush moves. Too often once he has hands on him it was over… Almost like playing party cake with the lineman. Almost all of his sakxs were untouched
March 26th, 2022 at 11:09 am
Somebody like Simeon Rice should work with him, too! If somebody like Rice & Brooks worked with him that would really help him.
March 26th, 2022 at 11:37 am
Tony, they def are the same body type, Rice and him. He could learn some things from him. Rice was def not great at stopping the run though. I remember teams use to run the ball to his side.
March 26th, 2022 at 11:39 am
LOL I’m not sure I want JTS anywhere near Simeon Rice. No telling what Sim would teach him!
March 26th, 2022 at 12:37 pm
JTS has good size (6’5″ & 259 lbs); he just needs to improve his strength to be able to control the edge better (that’s where JPP excels IMO). Saw him get taken out of too many plays last year, and that wouldn’t have happened if he was stronger. He’s still very young though, and I’m sure that NFL training regimens are a lot more demanding than are college ones. He’ll be fine, it’ll just take a year or two for him to kick it up a notch or two.
March 26th, 2022 at 12:48 pm
Let’s all remember last year was his first football in over a year. He was quite raw having missed 2020.
I think with coaching working hard and maturity I think we will see a jump this year.
March 26th, 2022 at 1:00 pm
One of the few good things about ‘earning’ a later draft position (aside from the obvious that you have a winning football team) – is that when you ‘hit’ on a 1st rounder – his 5th year option is quite affordable….
March 26th, 2022 at 1:26 pm
I like to see this because I’m very worried about the Bucs pass rush this season.
March 26th, 2022 at 2:29 pm
Good Offseason Nugget on JTS
I’m also worried about Bucs pass rush.
What if something happened to SHAQ?
Needs to be addressed and one of the best ways would be JTS developing into a premier pass rusher. SHAQ’s game will also improve when somebody else can generate pressure. Hopefully we can add somebody solid in the draft.
March 26th, 2022 at 3:37 pm
Dano … Don’t be surprised if we add an ‘aging’ pass rusher before the season starts for very little $$$. You know, someone with great experience who has enough juice left in the tank to work part-time to chase a Super Bowl ring as his last hurrah? Todd Bowles is really good IMO at setting older guys up in the right situations to get the most out of them.
Also I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see JPP back on our roster as a part-timer, taking JTS & this year’s Rnd 1 or 2 draft pick under his wing in a mentor role.
March 26th, 2022 at 3:51 pm
I seem to remember JTS being one step away from a few sacks last year. He would reach for the QB just as the pass was thrown. He didn’t play that year of college because of covid so it had been awhile since he played in a game until this past year. Lots of rookies have trouble adjusting to the NFL and show a huge improvement in thier second year. People seem to forget these rookies are learning so much that first year thier heads are spinning. Everything from verbage the coaches use to “where’s the bathroom”. I expect JTS to make a huge step forward this year. Looking forward to watching him play.
March 26th, 2022 at 4:29 pm
Awesome to hear!!
Him and Nelson are going to have to step it up big timers
March 26th, 2022 at 4:35 pm
This is terrific. I will never forget how Arians and Licht reacted when they got him in the draft. It was as if the rest of the picks didn’t matter much as long as they got him! I am looking forward to his big improvements.
March 26th, 2022 at 4:36 pm
Great info,btw, joe.
March 26th, 2022 at 4:48 pm
Crickett Baker, agreed. Joe is the best!
March 26th, 2022 at 4:59 pm
Insightful comments from Defense Rules again as usual.
I noted how JTS had spent his “year off” because of his decison regarding the Virus. He has some of the attitudes concerning his craft that TB and other “greats” had at a young age. That’s why I was happy to see us draft him last year even though no one saw him play the previous year.
March 26th, 2022 at 6:06 pm
Good to see he’s working hard.
JTS has the athleticism but needs to bulk and strengthen, and become much more technically polished. He didn’t have great technique when drafted.
The roster is lacking legit pass rushers for the coming season. I don’t expect JTS to be more than a promising rotational/situational.
March 26th, 2022 at 6:34 pm
he’s got the tools…
add in some bulk, hunger, effort and desire…
and you have a potential superstar
March 27th, 2022 at 10:07 am
He needs to stop running past week QBs when they step up in the pocket.