“Major Fall” Predicted
February 18th, 2022
Bucco Bruce Arians
So what happened the last time Tom Brady left a team? It went into the dumpster — from being a lock for the playoffs for 20 years to watching playoff games on the couch like the rest of the littles do.
Such a dropoff for the Bucs is not unexpected, types Jeff Kerr of CBS Sports. With the greatest quarterback of all time gone and a bunch of free agents that may depart, Kerr thinks it is safe to suggest the Bucs won’t be Super Bowl contenders in 2022.
Unless they can get a top-shelf quarterback.
Let’s assume Brady actually stays retired. The Buccaneers quarterback situation involves Blaine Gabbert (who is a free agent) and Kyle Trask (a second-round pick who didn’t play a snap in his rookie year). Tampa Bay will look at outside options with the Super Bowl window still open, but will have to give up a premium for players like Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, and Deshaun Watson. The Buccaneers don’t exactly have enough cap space to pull off such a move ($3,075,110 under the cap).
Tampa Bay is also primed to lose some of its key free agents this offseason due to the lack of salary cap space available to retain all of them. Chris Godwin, Jason Pierre-Paul, Ndamukong Suh, Ryan Jensen, and Rob Gronkowski are all free agents — and all but Godwin are over 30.
The Buccaneers need to get younger and figure out their quarterback situation, but they should still be competitive in a bad NFC South. If Brady stays retired, the Buccaneers are destined for a drop off — and their Super Bowl contending window might evaporate as well.
So what happened to the Belicheats when they lost Brady? They dropped to 7-9 the next season and along the way picked up a franchise quarterback in a quarterback-rich draft. The 2022 draft doesn’t have a Mac Jones.
Of course, this mindset would be flipped if the Bucs can pull off a trade for Deshaun Watson. Joe thinks it would be a miracle if the Bucs somehow fell into two franchise quarterbacks in three years.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:02 pm
How bad was it in New England?
Two words…
CAM NEWTON.
That is how bad it was.
Yikes.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:12 pm
Of course there will be a drop off. A big one. But wait! Trask will save us!
I hear he really likes red pens.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:13 pm
I don’t think we would be Super Bowl contenders, even if Brady comes back.
Brady knows this, and that’s why he bailed on Tampa.
But we can still be a competitive team, and maybe win our division.
We did not win last year, even with Brady, and a much easier schedule, and most of our good players.
So why would we win next year with many of our stars gone, and a much harder schedule ?
I sure hope we do not mortgage our future with a big name QB, thinking we can win another super bowl now.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:15 pm
If they can get Watson they’ll be more dangerous than with Brady. Not that Watson is a better QB, he brings a whole different element to the offense.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:27 pm
I’m loving all of the qb intrigue even though 90% of the ones who we could realistically obtain are at best average. Outside of Brady retiring it’s been a great off-season so far.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:34 pm
Of course there will be a drop…..how far is the question…..
This is a time to be smart……get younger…..sign younger key FAs……hang onto our draft capital…..test another QB even if it’s not a top-tier QB.
Do not mortgage the team’s future on a pipe-dream…..we won our SB with Brady….time to retool and move forward as best we can.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:42 pm
Frau Kommandant Brady, Pferdegesicht, hates red pens. But rumor is she loves Kyle Trask!
February 18th, 2022 at 4:44 pm
“picked up a franchise quarterback“
Didn’t they win a game where Mac Jones threw 3 passes? Lmao
February 18th, 2022 at 4:46 pm
Our cap space is bad especially considering how many free agents we have. we already have lots of dead cap space coming in the next few season from voided contracts. even if we get rodgers we are not a contender. we will only have Evans on offense. Godwin is not a given and if he does comeback we are going to have serious cap problems in the coming years. Sign Gabbert cheap like we have been and sign a bunch of cheap young guys and see where this falls.
Starting Free agents to resign with 3m in cap space
Godwin
Cappa
Jensen
RB’s
Gronk
Davis
Suh
gholston
JPP
Whitehead
This doesn’t include signing Draft picks and depth
February 18th, 2022 at 4:48 pm
Bill Belicheck spent 159m guaranteed in one offseason, an NFL record just to bolster his defense so he could have a chance at making playoffs. They made it and were blow out in the worst playoff loss in NFL history where the other team never punted.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:49 pm
If Watson goes to Miami, Mac Jones will be the third best QB in the AFC east
February 18th, 2022 at 4:55 pm
7-9 before Brady we be lucky to see 7 wins next year. Arians in Arizona 2 or 3 good years then back to the drawing board.
February 18th, 2022 at 4:59 pm
We could tank next year……get the #1 pick on a franchise QB……and win it all….oh wait….we did that already…
So, let’s go with the late 2nd round pick……can’t do much worse.
February 18th, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Let’s see … Bucs have ‘$3,075,110 under the cap’ to (1) sign a QB like Deshaun Watson as our QB AND (2) rebuild the TEAM so it’s good enough to be competitive with him as our QB. What could possibly go wrong with that picture?
Well, back in 2020 Watson was 4-12 with Houston despite the fact that he threw for slightly over 70% completion rate and only threw 7 INTs all season. PERHAPS even very good QBs don’t do all that well UNLESS they have a strong supporting TEAM on both sides of the ball. Just a theory …
February 18th, 2022 at 5:11 pm
Why would anyone trade for Watson? He is not going to play for the Texans, so they will either have to release him or pay him to sit out. He’s already made it clear he’s not playing with that team, giving up any draft capital would be a terrible decision for any gm
February 18th, 2022 at 5:17 pm
Wilsons happy Rodgers happy so Watsons the only one left. So go with what we have or mortgage the franchise on Watson.
February 18th, 2022 at 5:17 pm
The Pats also had a bunch of starters opt out due to covid that year, did they not?
Surely that had some effect on their losing as well…
February 18th, 2022 at 5:18 pm
The stars are aligning for Deshaun & the bucs , the football gods still have their hand on this franchise .
GoBucs!
February 18th, 2022 at 5:18 pm
I can see Arians going bat sh** crazy on the sidelines next year without Brady.
February 18th, 2022 at 5:18 pm
Jp09 — excellent point. Let him sit there and rot.
February 18th, 2022 at 5:37 pm
Even if we can pull off a deal for Watson and squeeze it into the budget, AND sign Godwin back we are fudged if Watson gets a 6 game suspension and Godwin can’t play until week 7
February 18th, 2022 at 5:43 pm
Watson will have a suspension at some point regardless of how the legal process plays out are we built to give up a lot and weather the storm I don’t know. Will we have the chips to obtain him is a different story if they told the panthers to kick rocks after they offered 3 1st’s and CMC what will we have to give up? scary to think about.
February 18th, 2022 at 5:45 pm
we had a brief and fabulous furlough. Back to the reality that is bucs football.
February 18th, 2022 at 5:53 pm
Eric has right.
February 18th, 2022 at 6:03 pm
Defense Rules Says: Well, back in 2020 Watson was 4-12 with Houston despite the fact that he threw for slightly over 70% completion rate and only threw 7 INTs all season.
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Turns out that you win games by scoring more points than the other guys — you get zero wins for winning the TO category on the stat sheet.
February 18th, 2022 at 6:09 pm
Jp09 Says:
February 18th, 2022 at 5:11 pm
Why would anyone trade for Watson?
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Because he’s one of the top 5, maybe top 4, QBs in football, and he’s 26-years old (will be 27 in Sept) – which means, with modern nutrition and workout regiments, that he could easily play another 12-15 years.
12-15 years of one of the best QBs in football is worth a lot.
But the other option I’d go with, that would be cheaper, is just getting the just turned 28-year old Jameis Winston, who was just ahead of Brady in QBR when he got injured. Winston, with his body type, is a guy who should play into his early 40s. Winston is cheap, doesn’t cost any picks, and has had time to sit back and learn, plus mature, also he already knows the offense and is well like, he can come in from day 1 and short of the Watson, Rodgers, Wilson tier, gives you the best chance to win.
February 18th, 2022 at 6:15 pm
Watson top 4 QBs?
You people have lost your minds.
Someone claimed Watson is more dangerous than Brady.
You people are smoking way too much green.
Denial…fantasyland. You people are dreaming. That’s about it.
February 18th, 2022 at 6:37 pm
Friendly reminder that Jameis Winston had 111 turnovers in 72 games, averaging over 1.5 a game, and this was before he tore his ACL.
Hence the name: America’s Turnover Machine
February 18th, 2022 at 6:48 pm
Once again, this is a rebuilding year. The Bucs have too many free agents not to be in this condition.
Trask was drafted to be our QB one of these days. Now is that time. If we have a decent team around him, with a drafted RB, we will see a pretty decent show.
We don’t need to make a Cam mistake. Watson won in college, so did Trask. Trask outplayed Mac Jones in the SEC championship.
Who can say Mac Jones is better than Trask? Trask is more accurate than Jones.
What matters most is the heart of a football player, I think Trask has one. He lifted an awful Gators team to the SEC Championship and the Sugar Bowl.
February 18th, 2022 at 6:50 pm
If , if arians would think business half of the time. OBJ wouldve been a buc. We win SB.
February 18th, 2022 at 6:54 pm
If Arians is calling plays next year, and it’s Trask or Gabs, get ready for a wild ride to the bottom of the division. It’ll be a season full of picks, angry old man sideline beatings, and boundless unaccountability. If this isn’t ole ammonia brains last season, he must know about a dead girl, or a young boy
February 18th, 2022 at 7:03 pm
As long as Arians is at the helm the Bucs have no chance of winning again. The red pen rumor is all you need for elite QB’s to say thanks but no thanks. All these guys want is a say and Arians just proved he is the man. Old losing control and credibility. FIRE his ARSE and send Bowles with him. For whatever reason. And hide their wives and daughters from Swamparse.
February 18th, 2022 at 7:17 pm
Pffffffttt!!!
Chillax and let this play out. No one here has any control of the situation anyway. Kerr is guessing.
Go Bucs!
February 18th, 2022 at 7:19 pm
T REX Says:
February 18th, 2022 at 6:15 pm
Watson top 4 QBs?
You people have lost your minds.
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Yeah, he’s really that good. Take a look at his QBr, 83.5, 61.8, 70.5 and 63.7. For a point of reference, Brady was 2nd in QBr this year, a point behind Rodgers, at 68.1. Unlike the old QB rating system, QBr does a pretty good job at taking into account the situation when you get your stats, and it tends to line up with the actual play you see with your eyes, and doesn’t reward guys like Derek Carr who will throw a 6 yard completion on 3rd and 13 to pad his stats.
Anywho, considering his age and production, what he brings in terms of rushing as well, yes, he was one of the top 4 or 5 QBs in football (he gets a bump with Brady retired). If you can add a player like that, who is going to be your QB, likely for the next decade or more and have you as a playoff contender going into every year, that’s worth a ton.
February 18th, 2022 at 7:20 pm
Yes, I am intrigued by the thought of having Deshaun Watson take the helm for this year and next. (Assuming he resolves all legal problems in a timely manner). Could he be behind door number two?
More realistically I could see a competition between the likes of Teddy Bridgewater, Blaine Gabbert and Kyle Trask during our camp this year. No matter what the outcome of that I would expect that we will have a winning season, win the NFC South, and make a strong showing in the playoffs after this season.
I don’t foresee a “Major Fall” at all, y’all! 😁
February 18th, 2022 at 7:21 pm
swampbuc just get over Giselle, as usual. Give up. It’s his wife. She wants a full time husband/father. Not a lot to ask for. But maybe she should’ve checked with you first. 😁
February 18th, 2022 at 7:27 pm
I will stand by what I’ve been saying since we signed Brady, and that is the understanding that once Brady retires, there will be a price to pay, and if it means a year or two to clean up the cap and reload, I’m perfectly OK with that.
If the Bucs only end up keeping Godwin and Whitehead, let everyone else walk and use this year to mostly clean up the cap, then so be it. That was always the deal I was OK making, and it might be the best thing to do.
If the Bucs went with the Tank w/ Trask model, they could see what he has, and if they did go 3-14, like I’d expect, they’d have a top draft pick and a clean cap next year, and still have a lot of good players and then you’re one QB signing away from being a winning team again.
If we did that and I’m wrong on Trask, and he turns out to be a stud, then fantastic, you now have a QB of the future and a ton of cap space since you’re not paying Trask anything (by QB standards).
More and more I think the Tank w/ Trask model is the way to go, just understanding that it is a tank job and I’d expect the team to be one of the worst in football. What screws that up is Arians, he can’t, at this point of his career endure something like that. Also Leftwich and Bowles screw it up, both guys will see their chances at head coaching jobs disappear if Trask is the QB and the team is terrible. So I think that is why they’re going to get someone, or they got a deal with the Glazers that says no one is getting fired no matter how bad this year goes.
February 18th, 2022 at 7:29 pm
swampbuc – Bucs should sign Tebow and Danny Wuerffel, then along with Trask the three can compete for the title of greatest UF QB ever, winning gets the starting job. Would be amazing.
February 18th, 2022 at 7:36 pm
“If they can get Watson they’ll be more dangerous than with Brady.”
Yeah. Maybe at the Asian Massage Parlor.
February 18th, 2022 at 7:37 pm
10 wins grabs the division this year…
maybe even 9 wins…geez…
the honest to God’s truth here is that it could take more than a year to get this next big time veteran qb in here…
we might be realistically looking at 2023 to be the year of revival as an nfl powerhouse…
while this year we tread water with our back ups and maybe a guy we scoop up at a tijuana bar and sneak back over the border…
we might be fiddling with an under 10 win season if lichty can’t work some magic…
#WeNeedMagic #AndThatDoesntMeanFitzmagic
February 18th, 2022 at 8:33 pm
I no longer care about Brady. It’s time to move forward and realize that we are going to be in a rebuilding mode. Yeah we will suck, but we have been there before many many times. Hopefully the team has learned how to be confident and disciplined from Brady’s time here.
February 18th, 2022 at 9:08 pm
Watson can keep his sorry ass away from Tampa
February 18th, 2022 at 10:41 pm
Our beloved Bucs have proven time and again that they really can’t stand prosperity for too long. Peaked in ‘79 early in franchise history…ran off McKay and Williams…toiled for years and years until basically ‘97. Missed the playoffs the following year of course but then had a good little run that ended in a Super Bowl title. Once again the following year was a shat show. The lost decade followed and a dream season with Brady before…you guessed it…a sudden retirement of a legend at the top of his game ( he’ll try to find his way to San Fran or Indy this summer ). I thought this run would be longer lived…but the bottom fell out yet again. Sounds like The Bros. Glazer are desperate to trade for a QB ( Wilson the latest rumor…fat chance )…keeping my expectations low there.
February 18th, 2022 at 10:49 pm
Waiting to process a Brady retirement by carrying him on the roster until at least June 2. By doing so, the $24 million of bonus proration associated with the dummy or fake 2023 through 2025 contract years would be a 2023 salary cap charge rather than part of the 2022 dead money, which would be $8 million. The Buccaneers would pick up $12,270,588 of 2022 cap room with Brady’s 2022 salary and $1.875 million of incentives deemed likely to be earned that have a cap charge coming off the books.
February 18th, 2022 at 10:57 pm
Oh my goodness you mean you people actually take cbs sports seriously hahaha . The only reason the cap looks that way is because of Brady who will restructure when he retires just like drew Brees did. Weak minded to think we’d lose Brady and key parts like Godwin even knowing we could franchise tag him again people still predicting nonsense
February 18th, 2022 at 11:11 pm
Yes this team will be much weaker next year than 2022, however the NFC is garbage beyond Stafford and Rodgers now. To get to a NFC championship game you likely have to beat one of the following Trey Lance, Cousins, Wilson, Dak, Hurts, and maybe Rodgers or Stafford if you have a bad seed.
The NFC south has Ryan, No one on Saints, No one on Carolina, and Trask on Bucs.
Washington is garbage, Carolina is garbage, Atlanta is weak, Saints currently have no QB, Giants are bad, 49ers have a rookie, Arizona’s QB is 5’4”, Seattle coach and QB don’t get along, Rodgers cannot win playoff games anymore, Dak will keep losing to good QBs, Detroit can’t win, Bears missed on QB. Sean Peyton is retired, Brees is gone, Eli is gone, Rivers is gone, Brady is retired. Even if some NFC teams gets a new QB in Wentz or Mayfeild or Tannhill or Bridgewater it will still be a weak team.
Bucs with Rodgers, Wilson or Watson are a no2 seed in NFC behind Rams or Green Bay. As they will hand the no2 or 3 best QB.
Bucs with Brady Gronk AB Evans Chris and new weapons in 2023 would be the favourites ahead of Rams for NFC championship.
February 18th, 2022 at 11:20 pm
There is over 80 million in space that can be made by redoing and pushing contracts forward, cutting older players with low owed money, releasing Brady by re doing his deal for minimal cap hit as quid pro quo for his release. Or trading Brady and his contract. Also many teams still keep their stars which huge cap excesses see Saints.
The only issue this team has is it doesn’t have a playoff QB, and BAs ego hurt the team chemistry.
February 18th, 2022 at 11:34 pm
Reality is we are not good for 20 years. Simple as that. We lost the Goat at his prime. Our only hope is he returns so we can actually enjoy a true Super Bowl with a full house. Go Bucs!
February 19th, 2022 at 12:03 am
The Bucs organization can spin this however they want but with the cap space and the lack of veteran QB options this is going to be a rebuild. They can pretend it’s not but that’s what it will turn into.
February 19th, 2022 at 12:09 am
Rod excellent plan.
I’ve been a Gator fan since the days of Douc Dickey, through Charlie Pell to Galen Hall to Steve Spurrier, to the darz days of Ron Zook, to Urban Meyer, to Will Muschamp, to Jim MacLilWeenie, to Dan Mullen and now Billy Napier. In all that time, the best QB the Bucs ever produced in terms of performance on the field is probably Rex Grossman. I think Tebow s the only other QB to ever win a playoff game.
So there is plenty reason to be skeptical of UF QBs. So, let’s run your contest.
Gabbert probably wins and he’s not even in the contest. And sucks.
February 19th, 2022 at 2:25 am
Since I’m up late with my insomnia I might post exactly the same questions in two places here at JBF. Whether you love Bruce Arians, hate him, are somewhere in between, or you are just plain indifferent here it goes.
Just why did BA publicly announce he would be back as our head coach before TB made any announcements about retiring? Do you really think BA was blindsided and caught totally off guard by Tom’s retirement? Or do you suppose that he and Jason Licht had plans B, C, D and/or E cooking on the back burner at least a year ago? What do you think, people?
I’ll check back later to see if I had any responses.
February 19th, 2022 at 2:33 am
Rod Munch Says:
February 18th, 2022 at 7:27 pm
I found your comments novel and enlightening. I enjoyed them very much. Thanks. You have given me much food for thought.
February 19th, 2022 at 2:50 am
I loved winning a Super Bowl with Brady, Gronk, AB, BA and all.
I would love it just as much to see us win another Lombardie before I die with a team we completely built ourselves like we did in 2002. Call me “old school”. I can dream can’t I? I love Evans, Godwin, Marpet, Vea, David, Brate, Wirfs and the rest of the guys as well.
Go Bucs!
February 19th, 2022 at 3:11 am
Joe, you were fine until the last paragraph. DeShaun would cause this franchise new grief. Endless (and justified) media scrutiny into his horrific crimes, legal countdowns by the day, and all that on top of mediocre quarterbacking.
This is not the recipe for salvaging a collapse. This is not what you want to plug into the chasm left by Tom Brady and everything he brought with him.
Yes, a major fall is a strong possibility. One that can be alleviated with lower expectations and a new long term plan.
It may be necessary to go two years out or more, simply to get to future draft and free agency offseasons in which there are quality QBs to acquire.
February 19th, 2022 at 3:23 am
Chris@apple,
I like your choice of words, “bailed on us”, because that’s how I feel as well. What ever the reason in his mind, I can’t understand. Thanks for the 2 years. Honor the last year of your contract. My opinion.
February 19th, 2022 at 7:00 am
JonCyn Says:
February 18th, 2022 at 10:49 pm
Very interesting comment ref ‘Waiting to process a Brady retirement by carrying him on the roster until at least June 2’. The numbers look reasonable but WHAT IF keeping him on the roster is more about keeping hope alive that he’ll change his mind later on, say in August or even after the season starts? Do you see any way we could mitigate the $20,270,588 that he’s CURRENTLY costing us in terms of a 2022 CAP hit while still retaining the rights of Tom Brady for this year?
February 19th, 2022 at 7:09 am
Rod Munch Says:
February 18th, 2022 at 7:27 pm
‘More and more I think the Tank w/ Trask model is the way to go, just understanding that it is a tank job and I’d expect the team to be one of the worst in football.’
Swampbuc Says:
February 19th, 2022 at 12:09 am
‘Rod excellent plan.’
Yup, makes perfect sense to me Mr Munch; and especially with Swampbuc giving it his full endorsement. I’m sure that the season ticket holders and corporate sponsors will gladly back a plan decimating the team, tanking in 2022, then praying that we can put Humpty Dumpty back together again in 2023 & beyond. Sure am glad now that you weren’t on any of our military strategic war planning teams. We’d all be speaking Chinese or Russian right now.
February 19th, 2022 at 7:52 am
Draft Bailey zappe in the 3rd round of draft he beat Joe burrows record for most passing yards and most td in a single season.develop him and trask and hopefully Gabbert can win some games ..
February 19th, 2022 at 8:00 am
Good one DR, love it. But you forgot to mention in Swampanizers squad the women aren’t allowed to speak, just clean the latrines.
February 19th, 2022 at 8:11 am
No doubt it will be rough without Brady considering the upcoming schedule. However, this is not a game of Jenga. You can’t replace a Hall of Famer the GOAT overnight, but no one is inexpendable.
February 19th, 2022 at 8:29 am
Watson is 28-24 as a starter. Hardly worth 3 1st, 2 2nds and $45 mil per year. Look at his last season after he lost key components of his team. 4-12, if your giving up five picks and 45 mil per year the QB needs to be able to win by himself and Watson clearly cannot. Now, I would take him for a pick or two and 25-30 mil per year otherwise build the defense and solid o-line and you can win consistently. Hell the guy in San Fran almost made the super bowl and tannenhill was in the playoffs
February 19th, 2022 at 8:58 am
Anyone hoping the Bucs trade for Watson must not have daughters. Crazy world we live in.
February 19th, 2022 at 9:37 am
Let’s all practice the word rebuild. That’s what we are going to be hearing over the next couple of years.
February 19th, 2022 at 10:02 am
Watsun gives Bucs more options than Brady?Lmao..Cam said the same thing.There is a reason Brady is the goat not a guy who runs a lot.Besides Watson will probably be in jail.I can’t believe people dont care that the guy has zero morals
February 19th, 2022 at 11:42 am
I don’t think the $3 million under the cap is entirely accurate. Before Brady retired, the Bucs were $20 million under the cap. As Brady was still under the cap, his salary and amortized signing bonus were included in cap figures. Once Brady retired, his salary no longer applies to the cap. However, the remainder of his signing bonus is brought forward. If Brady is removed from the roster before Jun 1, the dead money hit is greater than what Brady’s cap figure would have been… IOW less cap space. However, if Brady is released from the roster after Jun 1, only this year’s portion of the SB is applied to the cap, and the remainder applies to next year’s cap. That increases cap space this year, as Brady’s salary isn’t paid (he is retired/unreported to camp). So the Bucs should have about $28 million in cap space this year, assuming Brady remains on the roster past Jun 1.
February 19th, 2022 at 11:51 am
Pray for brady to come back but like i always said close games and these coaches blow it…watson doesnt compare to brady and for the idiots saying JW , omg back to last place in division. Rogers would be a good fit but these coaches still suck.
February 19th, 2022 at 11:56 am
Regarding the Buc’s Free Agent’s…many of the the younger ones will be offered long term deals that are cap-friendly the first couple of years. The older players aren’t likely to get long term contract offers, and likely can’t be fit under the cap. I’m specifically thinking of JPP and Suh. Non-starters aren’t likely to get big contracts, so RoJo and OJ Howard are probably gone.
QB will be key. Bucs simply can’t afford Rodgers. And they aren’t going to sign a QB with legal issues and looming likely suspension, and they particularly won’t give up multiple draft picks. Watson is off the table. Very much on the table is Teddy Bridgewater. He won’t cost a draft pick. His salary would be fairly modest for a starter and fit under the cap. He was Bucs second choice a couple years ago if they couldn’t sign Brady. Bridgewater is the leading candidate, imo.
NFC South will be a weak division, Bucs should win division. Saints are in terrible cap shape. Too early to say if Bucs are serious SB contenders ( pre-free agency and pre-draft), but they will probably make the playoffs and who knows after that?
February 19th, 2022 at 2:03 pm
Please give Trask a chance.
REMEMBER, Saint Tom was initially chosen 199th in the draft.
February 19th, 2022 at 2:42 pm
Have IQ’s suddenly DROPPED 40 points on average in the few days I was away??
Vegas has Bucs as 9th favorite to win SuperBowl in a 32 team league. Follow along closely now-that means Bucs are in the top 1/3 of ALL teams in the NFL. All you negative Nancy’s and Doom and Gloomers will be back on the bandwagon when Bucs return to the playoffs for the 3rd straight year.
The astounding lack of knowledge of the cap and how it works is appalling. Mike Greenberg is the best capologist in the league and will make it all work. The time to win it all again is right now.
February 19th, 2022 at 5:32 pm
Defense Rules — when your not thinking up your next 9872 word post, do you ever take time to just have a little fun? You are perhaps the most humorless pontificator I’ve seen.
This JBF site is for entertainment. A big part of entertainment is having a laugh. You have zero sarcasm detector and probably make the Mona Lisa lok like she’s laughing hysterically.
45 years of being a Bucs fan has taught me to make fun of everything because if we’re not laughing we’d be crying.
Now think up your next extremely well though out 7623 word post. Maybe you’ll be discovered by ESPN or Fox. Although you’ll have to cut down on your fog index. 123 words or less.
February 19th, 2022 at 6:26 pm
Prod Arians out the door. HC goes to Bowles or Leftwich. Rights to Brady for Garappolo and good linemen. Focus on defense and pass rush. The Broncos and Ravens proved that SBs can be won with a top-notch defense and terrible QBs (an ugly duckling Manning past his prime, or even worse a game manager like Dilfer). Garappolo may be flawed, but he’s not terrible. He’ll get the Bucs to the playoffs at least.
February 20th, 2022 at 12:26 pm
Let us reason together, for a change, Tom Brady is not coming back and Thank You Tom for the great memories, Kyle Trask is the only QB under contract and as smart as the Bucs staff has been that is not an accident , he is a student of the game , has always been prepared when called upon as evidenced when the QB that was starting in front of him went down with a season ending injury while he was in the process of leading Florida to a mediocre season , Trask took over , led the team to the two best seasons it has had in more than a decade SEC East Championships and a Heisman Trophy finalist to become a second round pick on the World Champion Tampa Bay Bucs with the opportunity to study under the GOAT to prepare for the day Tom would retire, again no accident , but the naysayers are going nuts ! So, who is not going nuts ? All those free agents none of which have said they are ready to flee the team , in fact , many have said they wish to stay, and even the all pro Kyle Pitts , Trask’s former team mate at Florida said when asked who should be Tampa’s next QB answered without hesitation,” Kyle Trask, period!”, now what do you think all those guys know that the naysayers do not?
February 20th, 2022 at 2:02 pm
It’s rebuild time for this football team. Either plan to give Trask a chance or get rid of him. Do not spend the money to bring on a new franchise quarterback
The money available needs to be spent on signing free agents that have at least 3 or 4 years left of top notch ability. The decision to give Trask a chance must be made now. The team did not give him any chance last year. Gabbert is not anywhere close to being a starting quarterback. Last year the decision should have been made at who might be the next in line after Brady. The franchise is not in a good position because of the cap space. Good luck to those making all of the players decisions. It’s time to make changes.