“Travesty” If Tom Brady Doesn’t Win MVP
January 11th, 2022
Should be MVP.
Of course, what do we expect Bucs Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians to say if he’s asked if one of his players should win a season individual award?
Are we really to believe Arians, or any NFL head coach, would trash his best player in a press conference saying the guy is unworthy? C’mon.
Still, when Arians was asked yesterday if Tom Brady is the league’s Most Valuable Player, it was cool to hear Arians say that anyone not voting for Brady as NFL MVP is dumb as a box of rocks.
“I think if he doesn’t get it, it’s a travesty,” Arians said. “I mean most completions ever, 5,000-yards, [43] touchdowns, the whole nine-yards. To me, it’s not even a close race.”
Joe had been thinking Cooper Kupp and Jonathan Taylor were in the running for MVP at one point. Joe was higher on Kupp. Every week teams set up gameplans to stop him and it never worked. Taylor has been stopped before (hi, Todd Bowles!).
When the jughead Jags beat the Colts on Sunday, that scratched off Taylor. Same with Kupp and the Rams losing to the 49ers.
But what Joe has seen Brady do with a bunch of has-beens and never-beens makes Brady the MVP. No doubt in Joe’s eyes. This guy makes everyone better.
Joe has a fundamental problem with the way the award is selected. It’s only a regular season award. For example, if the votes were after the last Super Bowl, could anyone sober deny that Brady was more important last year than Aaron Rodgers, the 2020 MVP?
Teams play for the Super Bowl, not for the regular season. So the award is flawed because votes are cast before the playoffs. The best player proves his value when the games mean the most. And that ain’t the regular season.
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January 11th, 2022 at 5:34 am
But what Joe has seen Brady do with a bunch of has-beens and never-beens makes Brady the MVP. No doubt in Joe’s eyes. This guy makes everyone better.
With what Brady is doing with the rag tag wounded battalion, yes.
A Rodgers has been more consistent, but playing with starters.
So really it comes down to a popularity contest.
my vote is for Tommy Legend
GO BUCS!!!!
January 11th, 2022 at 5:39 am
MVP!
January 11th, 2022 at 5:52 am
The fact that Brady is 44, has his team at 13-4 and is leading in so many passing stats should make this an easy decision by voters, but a lot of them are probably burnt out on Brady being so damn good for so damn long. Get over it and do the right thing voters!
January 11th, 2022 at 5:54 am
People make the mistake of thinking MVP means what it stands for. It doesn’t. Or else Brady will be winning it every year. He has the uncanny ability to make everyone around him better. Nobody else comes close.
Instead, they usually give the award to the QB of the winningest team. GB and TB are tied but GB dropped a meaningless game at the end of the season after locking the number one seed, so that breaks the tie. Rogers will get it.
January 11th, 2022 at 6:08 am
August, please explain how Roger’s is more consistent? The only thing he leads in is QB rating, which is not really fair because Bucs don’t have the running game GB does. Brady passes more. Can’t be more consistent if the record is the same 13-4. I also think the voters should take into consideration how he manipulated the Lions loss to his advantage. What Brady has shown that Roger’s has not is his unselfishness and caring nature toward his teammates and most of all leadership. Roger’s is in it for himself. Why would his teammates want to even play for him knowing he’s leaving and most likely taking their best receiver with him.
January 11th, 2022 at 6:09 am
How has Rogers been more consistent???
January 11th, 2022 at 6:21 am
Tom Brady is a walking, talking record-breaker. A winner at the highest level. What he continues to do will most likely never be repeated. Let that soak in for a moment.
Do I want him to have the MVP? Yes. Would I rather have another Lombardi? Yes and YES.
I think Tom would rather have that trophy too.
January 11th, 2022 at 6:48 am
Had the aints not blanked the Bucs, TB12 would’ve won.
db12 also got thrashed by the aints…but it was week1, so everyone forgets.
Recency bias.
TB12 had the better year & did more for his team.
That recent puke of a game screwed him.
ps–I hope db12 loses by 50 in round 2.
January 11th, 2022 at 6:48 am
Nailed it, Joe. Indeed the MVP.
January 11th, 2022 at 6:52 am
I watched a podcast last night of a bunch of ex-players pontificating about their time in the league, among them Shady McCoy. McCoy literally WORSHIPS this man, was amazed beyond belief the effect he has on his fellow players. Highly suggest y’all watch it
January 11th, 2022 at 7:03 am
they will bring 0-9 Saints game. there was when TB12 lost the MVP.
at home; all his weapons available; ZERO points. That’s it!
I don’t care though. For me he is a FOREVER MVP; not only he lifted Bucs again to the best records ever, but he revived the whole Tampa Bay area, and beyond fans;
The GOAT is the MVP.
January 11th, 2022 at 7:15 am
Yeah, that New Orleans game at home didn’t help, but honestly I don’t care about who gets MVP. Would be nice if Brady did though…
January 11th, 2022 at 7:33 am
Wow….just heard the national news story that BA pulled Brady out of the game, but Brady ignored him and went in anyway, to get Gronk his next $500k bonus…….BA ain’t the coach, Brady is.
January 11th, 2022 at 7:46 am
Tom Brady: Leader in passing yards
Buccaneers Receivers: 0 in top 10 receiving yards
Karon Rodgers: B!tched the whole offseason/preseason about his team but is the most valuable player in the league?
January 11th, 2022 at 8:05 am
It’s a toughie for the commielib sports writers: FIRST, you have anti-vaxxer Rodgers, who reads Ayn RAND (commielib anti-Christ)… THEN, you have Brady, who is a known Trump fan. I bet neither get it
January 11th, 2022 at 8:57 am
Rogers had some problems with the Covid issue….and there was his endless tantrum over the summer……that has to stick in the mind of the voters……Brady by a nose……
January 11th, 2022 at 9:04 am
Beej you’re a buffoon. Leave your political religious view points for your Faux News Network! Why must you clowns ALWAYS have to bring that crap up here??? Only y’all. If YOU really believed in Christ you wouldn’t think the way you think. From the sound of you you’re a Trump follower who is the FARTHEST from Christ as satan. You conservatives are no better than the liberals and you all think you’re better than everyone else
January 11th, 2022 at 9:04 am
There is that. There is certainly a Brady/Belicheats fatigue.
January 11th, 2022 at 9:05 am
LOL
January 11th, 2022 at 9:09 am
Roger’s wants the biggest pay check he can get when he leaves next season and back to back MVP’s doesn’t hurt. He’s in it for the money. D bag.
January 11th, 2022 at 9:12 am
Karen rodgers gets the republican vote because of his anti vaxxer status. That’s gotta be good for 25%, unless he gets them all worked up by stating votes were stolen repeatedly. Then it’s ballot stuffing time.😂
January 11th, 2022 at 9:13 am
I believe Tom Brady will beat out Aaron Rodgers because of the Covid BS.
Many members of the media will not vote for a player who refused the clot shots…
January 11th, 2022 at 9:22 am
How can you vote for a player who was “untruthful” or misleading about the vaccine?? Rodgers could have derailed hid team with dishonesty over that. How can that make him MVP??? Brady doesn’t care about it which makes him the MVP. Rodgers wouldn’t have stayed in blow out game to make sure he got someone else an incentive bonus. NUMBER DON’T LIE RODGERS DOES!!!
January 11th, 2022 at 9:42 am
In fairness to Rodgers, it’s my understanding his team knew the truth, he just did not want it to get out to the press, for obvious reasons as you can see now. He CAN rehab his reputation though… He can ridicule the My Pillow guy on Twitter or Facebook or something. As for Brady, he’s going to have to say something nice about AOC, maybe put a Biden sticker on his electric car
January 11th, 2022 at 10:03 am
First, let’s give it up to the Joe’s for the steady stream of content. No other vlog or website is coming close to JBB to feeding our insatiable appetite for Tampa Bay Buccaneers content. Thank you!
About the MVP…There are analysts who operate a website called Pro Football Focus. Amongst other things they are attempting to remove the subjectivity out of things like determining the MVP.
This should be required reading for every voter of the MVP
It’s the most objective analysis you can find on who should be the MVP. As discussed in the write-up, it’s not even close when you try to quantify the results.
Google “PFF why Tom Brady should win the NFL MVP”
(Sorry, JBB website auto-moderates out any copied and pasted URLs.)
Article from Pro Football Focus before Sunday’s game explaining how it shouldn’t even be close by any objective measure. Unfortunately we have humans using their eye ball tests. Guys like Chris Simms, Shannon Sharp, Nick Wright and Rob Parker get paid to channel all the Brady hate out there into the public discourse.
Also, let the record state it was Ira Kaufman who asked Arians the question about who should be the MVP. He is a voter.
January 11th, 2022 at 10:03 am
They look at rodgers td to int ratio as the big stat
But brady had almost every offensive stat: yards / tds/ completions/ tied for wins right?
With almost 20 starters missing multiple games on defense and especially offense
The only constant for the bucs is brady
He is “the reason” we have a chance to win every week
And who brings up the saints game as brady reason he wont get? Remember that rodgers was blanked by saints in week one dumb dumb
January 11th, 2022 at 10:03 am
It was a travesty not winning it last year. How the hell you take a moribund trash heap like we were and lead them to the playoffs and don’t win that thing is beyond me. Licht too. He should have won last year too.
I think I’m the only one on the planet rooting for this but I want Brady MVP, Belicheat Coach of the Year, and the Bucs and Pats in the Super Bowl.
January 11th, 2022 at 10:46 am
The Packers have been good for many years now. When Brady was starting with the Bucs in 2020, the Packers were just coming off an NFC Championship birth. The Packers already had continuity. They were good throughout the Favre years and Rodgers stepped in right behind that. The Packers are one of the premier franchises in NFL history.
Brady took a moribund franchise and completely turned it around in Year 1. The Buccaneers hadn’t been to the playoffs in over a decade. Brady lead them directly to a Super Bowl Championship (beating Rodgers in the process). No other player could have done that.
By definition Brady is the most valuable player in the league and it isn’t even close. Why are people so hung up on Rodgers 4 INTs? 7 of Brady’s INTs came from from receivers fumbling the catch and another was picked on a Hail Mary in the end zone to end the half.
If Brady weren’t on the Bucs, they wouldn’t have signed Gronk, Fournette, Brown, Bernard, Sherman and Bell, Attracting players to your team that others cannot makes you an MVP.
Brady continues to make wine out of water with guys like Scotty Miller, Cameron Brate, Tyler Johnson, Breshad Perriman, and Cyril Grayson. Do you not think these guys will disappear into obscurity ala Chris Hogan and Danny Amendola when they’re moved on from the GOAT? Does Rodgers have this ability? No. No one else does.
I don’t understand the Rodgers love other than I understand the Brady hate. Oh and Rodgers can zip the pretty pass and look effortless. Who cares? The MVP is not about the most talented or most efficient. It’s about who did the most for his team and who accomplished the most. Statistics are part of that.
Brady wins on all statistical fronts except by a fraction on QBR, completion % and TD to INT ratio. But if you have 1,200 more passing yards, essentially 30% more of a season’s worth of passing yards, how can that not automatically qualify you as more productive at the position if wins and losses are the same, as they are?
Both teams got trashed by the Saints – Rodgers moreso than Brady – and it makes no sense to eliminate Brady from the race because of that single game. If you use that criteria, wouldn’t Rodgers missing an entire game against one of the best teams in the league due to poor decision making and getting COVID (remember he went to Halloween party without a mask) trump Brady’s horrible performance against the Saints?
Brady hate and fatigue is real. It’s the only reason he’s not the hands down MVP. If the name on Brady’s jersey said anyone but Brady, you’d have a runaway MVP candidate.
January 11th, 2022 at 10:57 am
I admit my bias, but I think Brady should be the MVP. I don’t even see how it is close. The one attribute (and it is an important one) that Rodgers has over Brady are fewer INTs. Other than that, Brady dominates most statistical categories.
Rodgers wouldn’t even get my vote for second place. To me, Cooper Kupp has had one of the most dominating seasons ever for a WR. It still perplexes me how he lasted until the mid to late third round.
January 11th, 2022 at 11:53 am
Yes cooper Kupp had a monsta year at wr. Huge in the clutch.
January 11th, 2022 at 12:11 pm
I’m sorry Rodgers should be ahead of Brady. There were no games this year were Packers lost because of Rodgers’ poor play except for the season opener. Brady on the other hand contributed to three of our four losses (he was amazing against the Rams, the team wasn’t).
January 11th, 2022 at 2:32 pm
It’s Brady vs Rodgers, and honestly, you can make a case for either.
I have money on Brady, and as a Bucs fan I want him to win, without Rodgers in the mix, it’s an easy MVP for Brady.
But Rodgers had a pretty remarkable year, 37 TDs vs 4 INTs, and he really only has one WR.
But Rodgers also threw for 1200 yards less than Brady, and that should, you’d think, count for something. That’s a lot of yards. Also, while the Bucs didn’t play the hardest schedule this year, the Packers played an even easier one.
However, one of the positives about the talk being that Rodgers is the MVP over Brady, is that Brady likes to have chips on his shoulders, and if the Bucs play the Packers, you can bet that Brady will be well aware of the fact that the voters gave the nod to Rodgers.
January 11th, 2022 at 2:49 pm
Rod, the problem with the silver lining you suggest for Brady getting passed over for an award he deserves is that the winner will be named after th NFC Championship game, the only time the two could meet.
I suppose it could fuel Brady a day before the Super Bowl.
The interview with Peter King was disappointing. How can 32 of 36 of the people he polled see Rodgers getting the vote. It should be way closer. I really just don’t get it. Only talking heads I’ve seen advocating for Brady are Skip Bayless and Jeff Saturday. I don’t know how you could read the PFF piece and not come away with Brady as the obvious choice.
Oh well, stupid is as stupid does. Someone is still giving Rob Parker a paycheck after all. That says it all to me.
January 11th, 2022 at 5:00 pm
Debate from today between Wiley and Acho.
Both agree that Brady is the MVP. For every logical reason.
“Wiley on fire Tom Brady is the MVP, not Aaron Rodgers”
January 11th, 2022 at 5:10 pm
The greatest q.b. of ALL TIME just had his best statistical season of his ENTIRE CAREER, all while having no running game, and dealing with a ton of injuries to his offensive weapon’s. And all he did was lead his team to the best record in football. He’s clearly the MVP!
January 11th, 2022 at 5:12 pm
@ Jonny – He wasn’t the reason we lost to Washington or Saints (first game).
January 11th, 2022 at 7:17 pm
Allan Hurst Says:
January 11th, 2022 at 2:49 pm
Rod, the problem with the silver lining you suggest for Brady getting passed over for an award he deserves is that the winner will be named after th NFC Championship game, the only time the two could meet.
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I phrased it wrong, what I meant was that Brady would be well aware of the rumors that Rodgers had the award locked down, and would want to put on a show. I actually knew the date, doubled checked it before posting that, but still screwed up what I was saying.
But it’s pretty amazing I’m seeing so many people just saying Rodgers will easily win it. It’s surprising since Brady had a dominate statical year and the teams finished tied with the same record. Also most of the nutjob sports writers are all leftists, so they hate Rodgers since he dared to speak about the subject you’re not allowed to have an opinion on. We will see if that,in the end, ends up being a factor – I do not dismiss it.
Again, I have money on Brady and I’m a lifelong Bucs fan. There’s never been a Bucs player as MVP, so this is huge if Brady wins.