Many Calling For Bucs To Wash Hands Of Antonio Brown
December 3rd, 2021
Bucs WR Antonio Brown
The last time Joe took a stand when the Bucs were involved in a major, national NFL scandal/story, Joe’s stand was the opposite of what happened.
All too predictably, folks in the national media are screaming for the Bucs to release furniture-tossing, bicycle-throwing receiver Antonio Brown after the NFL found he and Mike Edwards and former Buccaneers John Franklin of “Last Chance U” fame conned the Bucs with fake V-cards earlier this year.
Joe wants to make sure to point out that the NFL also confirmed both Brown and Edwards are now vaccinated. Both were suspended for the next three games and are eligible to next play Dec. 26 against the Stinking Panthers.
The #Bucs have one move.
And that’s to cut Antonio Brown. Immediately.
The fake vaccination card proves he cares about himself and only himself. Not the team.
— Thomas Bassinger (@tometrics) December 3, 2021
Joe heard SiriusXM Mad Dog Radio host Steve Torre say last night, “If the Bucs had any guts” they would unload Brown. Yeah, real guts. Help Pearl Harbor your team’s chances of repeating as Super Bowl champs. But guts! Go ahead and p!ss in the faces of your players to make a radio host in Manhattan who very likely has never stepped foot in the Stadium on Dale Mabry Highway feel haughty and allow him to puff his chest out and bloat his ego.
Destroy the plans your team mapped out for the past year. Yeah, guts.
But it doesn’t stop with Brown. Jonathan Jones of CBS Sports even hinted Edwards should be worried for his job, too.
The Bucs also couldn’t retain Brown while cutting safety Mike Edwards, who along with Brown and former Bucs receiver and current free agent John Franklin III, was found to have also used a fake vaccination card. Cutting Edwards and not releasing Brown would be a naked admission that Brown is too important to release no matter if he violated federal law, lied to his team and put teammates’ health and safety at risk.
Folks like Torre, who claim the Bucs don’t need Brown; and Jones, who thinks Edwards is a throwaway player, clearly demonstrate to Joe they have watched few Bucs games.
One could argue with all the injuries the Bucs have had in the secondary, Edwards may be as valuable as Brown.
There is no doubt Brown — who came down with The Sickness this season — was selfish and cared more about himself than his two-time cancer surviving, COVID-high-risk coach Bucs Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians and 82-year-old offensive assistant Tom Moore.
The way Joe looks at it, all of this is in the past. The Bucs survived. Both Brown and Edwards are now vaccinated, which is the main goal. Sure, there may be bruised egos involved here — Arians cannot be happy because he went to bat for Brown when this story first broke — but there is no sense to throw a tantrum and hurt the team further. If the Bucs were out of the playoff hunt, then yeah, Joe could see tossing Brown overboard.
Cancer DeSean Jackson did far more damage to the Bucs than Brown has done.
And if the Bucs win the Super Bowl with Brown and Edwards, the only people who might remember this day will be the handful of self-anointed moralists living in faraway cities who try to pass judgments on all others’ lives — when no decision of any sort made by the Bucs will have any remote impact on their lives.
In a week, the NFL will be on to its next scandal and this Brown and Edwards suspension will be forgotten.
It’s awfully easy for folks who have zero connections to the Bucs or the Tampa Bay area or even Florida to have a knee-jerk response to cut Brown and/or Edwards. No hair off their arses. They have no investment.
STATEMENT FROM THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS:
“We appreciate the League’s timely handling of this matter and recognize the importance of the health and safety protocols that have been established. We will continue to implement all league COVID-19 protocols.”
December 3rd, 2021 at 5:05 am
Yep, a leopard never changes it’s spots….pure cancer…cut the clown. Dragged edwards down too?
December 3rd, 2021 at 5:11 am
These same people were silent when we had a quarterback that liked to female Uber drivers in their holiest of holies.
December 3rd, 2021 at 5:41 am
Speaking of DeSean Jackson, and I know we most likely will never find out, but what I wouldn’t give to hear everything you Joe(s) know about him and the behind-the-scenes/inner workings of his Bucs tenure here.
December 3rd, 2021 at 5:49 am
Sorry but something still doesn’t smell right about this whole thing. Did they both admit to the NFL that they used fake vaccination cards? Since they’re both vaccinated now, when were they vaccinated and when did they purportedly use the fake cards? And why was the Bucs statement so bland that it didn’t even mention anything about the 2 Bucs involved or even about fake vaccination cards?
It’s so easy to rush to judgment nowadays based on Twitter one-liners or half-truths (or downright misinformation) spread via the internet. The court of public opinion is fully open … and very easily swayed. Facts too often become irrelevant; perception becomes reality, and perception is too often driven by the ones with the loudest voices. Throwing 2 productive players off our team isn’t something that should be done casually. There’s always more to the story …
December 3rd, 2021 at 5:57 am
First, I am not calling for anyone’s release. But there has to be some consequences for these actions causing our head coach to run to his defense and it made the organization and coach look like idiots.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:02 am
Surprise….a bunch of lefty journalists think two players who tried to get around the vax should be exiled. Black people in our country have a good reason to be skeptical about drugs the government wants to put in their bodies. Unrelated: HOW many chances has Josh Gordon had now?
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:07 am
@”…Cancer DeSean Jackson did far more damage to the Bucs than Brown has done…”
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AB has done ZERO damage to the Bucs, quite the opposite, He is been GREAT help to the team and TB12.
Let watch the language and not play the anti Bucs card.
I like the Bucs statement. I hope they move on from this non sense.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:07 am
Anyone asking for a release, in fact wants to weaken the bucs, knowing how important this guy is for TB. Shut up, and let him play. He will be even more fired up after this.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:08 am
Defense Rules – couldn’t have said it better myself. And Joe has a phenomenal point about people pontificating about Tampa Bay when they have no real knowledge of the team. Stick to your “super intriguing” Giants and Jets stories.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:08 am
Turn the page
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:10 am
Defense Rules with one of most profound statements in history!
I don’t think it’s a release-able offense and 3 games is a stiff penalty when you consider that Aaron Rodgers all but flaunted.
I don’t like it, it’s deceitful and completely unnecessary IMO. But such is today’s world where it’s all about ME.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:15 am
I’m glad we didn’t put him on IR, else the suspension wouldn’t have started until we activated him. Probably couldn’t play the next two games anyhow, Edwards probably the next one at least
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:18 am
Aaron Rodgers lied about being vaccinated for most of the season. He didn’t get tested daily or wear masks. Why hasn’t he been suspended for 3 games. You can get arrested for DUI or worse and not get suspended. This is all Roger Goodell.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:18 am
When it comes to truth and justice the NFL is not to be trusted. Their morality plays are tiring. WFT and protection of Snyder while setting up and destroying Gruden. This latest BS punishes players they don’t like yet basically gives Rodgers a pass. No Rodgers didn’t have a fake V card, but he did intentionally lie about his vaccine status. In actuality he was more dangerous to his team than AB or Edwards who actually ended up getting vaccinated.
Btw, it is an individual liberty issue , a constitutional issue and a private health issue that the government or any entity should not control. While everyone should be encouraged to get the vaccine, it should be a matter of personal choice.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:25 am
Fire whoever made them think vaccinations are poisonous. It’s a political hoax. Vaccines save lives.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:26 am
If it was just the V Card it would be different. The V card, the sexual assault, the domestic abuse, the speeding, nearly killing an infant, assault, burglary what HASN’T this guy done to earn his rightful cut from this team?
The man literally got cut from a PAL football team last year
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:30 am
The real hoax is that politicians can keep you safe and healthy.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:33 am
The double standard is absurd. Qaaron Rodgers lies to the fans and media and breaks covid protocols about masks all season and gets a smaller fine than a uniform violation while these guys lie and break covid protocols and AB loses over a million and people want him cut. Now don’t get me wrong-the pseudoscience antivax crowd are tremendously selfish and foolish, but the two tiers of justice are beyond comprehension. If the excuse is that the nfl knew Qaaron belonged to the church of joe Rogan, they let him break covid protocols for the whole season in plain sight putting people at risk. Some liability there on the nfls end. But again two tiers of justice. The Jon gruden tier and the Dan Snyder tier
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:36 am
No question ,both the offense and defense would be affected if these players were released. Puzzled by their reasoning to flaunt the system and then subsequently
get vaccinated . But the NFL has handed down their punishment and that should be the end of it, IMO.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:37 am
@Joe. Agree 100%. There are also other considerations. TB12 brought AB here. He likely would not stand for AB’s release. This team would implode. The other factor is that if AB is cut another team we are likely to face in the NFC playoffs would sign him. AB is concerned for his health. I got the Vax because my wife insisted. Haha. I can’t judge AB. Foxnew relased a story last night that a group of scientist used the FOIA to call for the release of vaccine data. The FDA has refused and said it would take 55 years. That, to me, is highly suspicious…and a little scary.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:39 am
Before this becomes “Red State Rampage” bear in mind that the NFL and NFLPA agreed upon the requirement for Covid vaccination. It isn’t liberal or conservative, it is an attempt to provide self regulation to protect players, coaches, and the press who come in contact with players. The NFL, like all professional sports is run by these self-regulatory labor agreements.
That doesn’t mean the punishment is fair, it isn’t. The NFL isn’t going to disrupt or destroy the money-making component of the NFL, which in my view is why Mike Edwards and AB drew the wrath of God(dell) and Aaron Rodgers escaped with an inconsequential fine. Rodgers lied, his misrepresentation also potentially affected the safety of players, coaches, and the press (the NFL knew this and was complicit in covering it up, they too are guilty). In my opinion, the real difference is that AB and Mike Edwards don’t draw television audiences like Rodgers. That’s why the punishment was more severe; the NFL is a business after all.
And most importantly, the hypocrisy of the NFL is now on full display. If safety of players, coaches and the press was really that important, why did they allow Rodgers to flaunt the rules? Because they decided the rules weren’t really important, that masking-up was really for public relations.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:46 am
I doubt any serious fan wants Antonio Brown kicked off the team. The fans that do are either principled to some lofty level, or they simply don’t understand that game involving an oblong pigskin ball. In my opinion, the likelihood of the Bucs repeating a championship falls dramatically without AB. I made an argument about route running, and even if it went over the heads of many, take a look at how this offense sputters without the two best route runners (AB and Gronk).
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:49 am
I hope they don’t cut Edwards or AB. They’re both losing a lot of money this season and probably have diminished their earning ability down the road. That seems to be more than enough punishment. They broke the rules that had been agreed upon but it’s been clear for months now that the vaccine doesn’t really prevent infection or transmission so the only people they potentially jeopardized were themselves.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:53 am
I don’t believe the players and coaches can ever trust AB again. All that hard work of cleaning up your act and being a professional is out the window. I’m disgusted.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:58 am
Not a big enough deal in my opinion.
Everybody has their own reasons to want to get the vaccine, or not to want to get the vaccine.
Suspension without pay seemed like a reasonable enough punishment.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:04 am
I stand with our players, but that’s because I don’t believe in the forced jab. Saying the same people stand with AB that stood with JW is not true.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:04 am
If BA cuts Brown and succumbs to media peer pressure he is not only a bad coach but a wuss. Oh and those who want to cut Brown the Bucs should have to cut Edward’s and Franklin to. There are thousands of players in this league many repeat offenders of one thing or another, do we cut a player every time the media calls for it. F that, go win another SB give them something else to write about.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:07 am
Lots of “self-annointed moralists” on this blog also
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:08 am
For Brown, he hasn’t been on the field for a while, hard to say he’ll be missed when he hasn’t been out there in 2 months. I believe its still about his overall value…..if they view his production when out there, particularly in the playoffs, is worth the few million he’s paid plus headaches, he’ll hang around. If he keeps Brady happy and remains cheap, probably sticks around. Again, right now it doesn’t seem like he’s much to deal with because he’s always off rehabbing. When he is actually practicing or playing, he seems to fit in….I think the team understands with some players there’s always going to be an element of immaturity off the field. Brown is one of those players….its nothing more then Brown being Brown. The idiot lost 3 game checks attempting to save $10k….brilliant.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:10 am
I work for the fed and was forced to take the EXPERIMENTAL jab in order to keep my job. I would have used a fake card if I thought I could get away with it. There are just too many unknowns, and plenty of knowns, that make me wary of taking a shot for disease with a 99.8% survival rate.
So good for AB and Edwards for trying. Blood clots and/or a heart arrhythmia (known side effects) can destroy a young athlete’s career and maybe even his life.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:14 am
All the Super Bowl run, COVID emotion, Brown’s history, etc. aside, I want to point out there is a CBA here that the league negotiated with the players, and there is additional codification on disciplinary processes. From a “legal” standpoint, the Bucs should not cut Brown, and their mission under the oft touted “NFL Shield” is to compete under the rules of the NFL which would also include the in-place agreements, in order to win, to provide revenue for the NFL and entertainment as the product. The Bucs are obligated to do that. So frankly, if the media or anyone else has an issue with them keeping Brown (or Edwards around), please go see Roger Goodell and the NFLPA as there needs to be an even hand across all teams on how this stuff is dealt with. Brown is facing the music, and yes, he continues to demonstrate he’s the type of person he seems to be. Make the league take him away though, and take away Aaron Rodgers while you’re at it.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:16 am
The one silver lining is that these guys will be very healthy in 3 weeks….
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:29 am
This was a blip on GMFB. FYI, Brady is a full blown republican so if BA cuts Brown not sure how happy TB12 will be. They were suspended for misrepresenting their vaccination status. It’s like your sister forging your report card. I’ll bet part if the reason is BA was so jacked to share that the Bucs were the first team to be 100% vaccinated and some of the players weren’t on board yet.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:34 am
The vaccine prevents death and reduces the need for taking up a hospital bed by making the symptoms milder. It’s science. It’s math. It is not political no matter how many try to insist that it is.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:38 am
NFL already suspended him for 3 games. he’s about to lose alot of money! why do people still want to more? did he kill your dog or what?
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:39 am
passing through, While I agree that the offense has sputtered, without AB.THat is also because AB gives Brady the chance to get the ball out faster.It also about the coverage he draws, a DB with no safety help will be less aggressive at the line scrimmage so he doesn’t get toasted.
Receivers that have to work through double coverage, require both the receiver and QB to make adjustments and it takes more time to develop. I also think our offense is sputtering because these chunk plays have not been as much a part of the offense.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:41 am
Well said, Roy! Keeping politics out of this, the NFL is the last entity on Earth to be sanctimonious and try to grab the moral high ground on any issue. Punishment is collectively bargained, these guys are missing 3 game checks. Move on.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:42 am
Vax kicking major butt in CA, VT and Ireland. Logic would dictate it’s not effective against Delta, probably better than nothing is the nicest thing you can say about it
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:44 am
The problem is that they need Vaccination cards to begin with. Another problem is the amount of gullible Americans that don’t see this as a problem. It’s terrifying.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:53 am
With or without these 2 winning back to back SB’s is extremely rare and they’re not playing like the beat team in the league. Extremely unlikely they win it again with AB or not.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:54 am
Beautifully said, Joe.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:55 am
Stop this BS talk. Cutting two major players because of this BS while deep in the season would be the dumbest move that this admnistration can make.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:56 am
Hear, hear Joe. Screw the moralists.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:59 am
Adam,
The NFL and the NFLPA agreed upon the protocols. They were not forced to take the vaccine. Stop reaching, this is how capitalism works.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:00 am
The reporter said “violated federal law” again with not understanding that a mandate isn’t a law. And people trust these clowns implicitly? How do we have more deaths with 77% of the country vaxed than before we ever had a vaccine ?????
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:03 am
AB is not the problem. The problem is imposing tyranny under the guise of public health. The vaccine is not safe and not effective.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:06 am
Beeej Says:
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:42 am
Vax kicking major butt in CA, VT and Ireland. Logic would dictate it’s not effective against Delta, probably better than nothing is the nicest thing you can say about it.
When you say “kicking major butt,” you mean causing horrific effects like blood clots etc., eliminating the victim’s God-given immune system and replacing it with a synthetic immune system that must be propped up forever with boosters, and sending people to the hospital where they can be eliminated? That kind of kicking butt?
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:07 am
Agree with many here – if it wasn’t about the covid/vax narrative then the media wouldn’t even care. This was nothing but a forced mandate down the throats of the players.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:10 am
Everyone does know the vaccine has nothing to do with spreading covid correct. People with the vaccine are getting covid just as much a those without the vaccine.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:12 am
He ain’t getting fired. That would be moronic, and caving to the Karen’s out there. Go Bucs!
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:13 am
They aren’t cutting any of them. They got a suspension, why Rodgers didn’t I have no idea. It was just stupidity. Is anyone surprised? Nope. I guarantee BA and the Bucs are pissed as heck. The man is going to lose like $1mill, let’s move along.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:14 am
I was somewhat pro vax but the fanatics are driving me to the don’t give a fart side. They got their suspension but that’s not enough for the idiots. Gotta bury them to make some people happy.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:16 am
BT–I was being sarcastic, was hurriedly typed
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:21 am
Brown is one of Brady’s boys he is untouchable. Whay Brady wants Brady gets he
is not going nowhere.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:23 am
LOL LOL LOL
Joe Thomas Bassinger privatized his account.
Granted as of now Bassinger hates the bucs he only says anything about them when they are bad or thinks we should cut someone.
Also yeah guys lets cut a top 15 WR when we are attempting to win a super bowl. AMazing
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:26 am
All you idiots calling on the Bucs to cut these two will be the first ones doing back flips if they win another SB again and will forget about all of this. Screw off.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:29 am
Brown has been a near perfect player and citizen while in Tampa.HE HAS EARNED MY RESPECT!!!!YOU FOOTBALL SNOBS CAN SHOVE IT!!!!!
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:35 am
Lets see, “Those who have never sinned cast the first stone”
lol oh crickets from the self righteous lol
AB is not the first to make a dumb mistake, yes very dumb, and he will not be the last one to make a dumb mistake.
To call him a cancer in the locker room is being done by those who have not actually followed anything about AB more than in a shallow way this year.
GO BUCS!!!!!
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:36 am
Many say move on. Many are idiots. The end.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:36 am
ON A POSITIVE NOTE, AB AIN’T GETTING A BIG CONTRACT NEXT YEAR…VET MINIMUM ON BUCS FOR 2022 IF TB12 STAYS!!!
The double standard here is infuriating.
True, DB12 & Bucs-Twits are not exactly the same thing, but very, very, very close to the same thing. I’d like to know specifically when the Bucs-Twits got vaccinated.
If this were about health, we’d all know when Bucs-Twits got the shot right?? Thus, its a PR farce.
Just like much of the entire bs nonsense about the vaccine in the first place. You are either vaccinated or not. If you choose to not be (I am vaccinated), that’s your choice & live with the circumstances and/or consequences. Its not this hard or political…but we live in a world of absolutes where everyone is outraged at everything all the time.
My inference on all I’ve read is that the Bucs-Twits got the shot during the pre-season. If so, how is it they broke protocol more/worse than DB12 & the packers?
Not having the vaccine does not endanger anyone…you simply endanger yourself (if you choose to be in that camp) and put your team at a disadvantage by having to follow non-vaxed protocol. So really we can be angry the Bucs-Twits put their team at a disadvantage for X amount of time–that is all.
We KNOW DB12 broke protocols through at least week 9. He & his team got a bs fine.
When exactly did the Bucs-Twits get the shot?? Maybe we’ll know when the NFL released all the WFT emails…
Always has and always will be a world of double-standards. Have to shake your head and move on with life.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:38 am
The people with the vaccines are not the ones filling up hospital beds and dying, but the liars will continue to lie.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:52 am
What matters most, IMO, is what their team mate think. Why not put it to a team vote?
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:56 am
I find it hilarious that these pundits are saying Brown put his team at risk with c 19 by not being vaxxed. Bro, the rest of the team is vaxxed, isn’t the vax supposed to protect them from c 19? In addition, you can still get c 19 and spread it, even if you are vaxxed. 🤦♂️
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:57 am
Let the babies cry about it, we are gonna win again with AB
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:57 am
Good for brown and edwards. This whole thing is ludicrous. If I were the Bucs I’d p!as in the face (Joes term) of Roger and activate AB this week and let him serve the suspension while he’s injured.
Screw the NFL and their BS. I’m so tired of all of
This garbage. Just let people live their lives. If the rest of the team is vaccinated…who exactly is harmed? And now that they’re all vaccinated anyway this suspension looks to me like petulance. Classic Goodell.
December 3rd, 2021 at 8:58 am
The worst thing about this is how Joe just disables comments, I thought this was america
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:03 am
Aaron Rodgers situation is entirely different than what happened to ab and Edward’s you can’t compare the two. It doesn’t matter how you feel about the vaccine in this case, whether you are pro or against, they violated the union agreement with the NFL and they were punished for it and that’s the end of it.
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:07 am
yeah, insurrection joe, the man all about FREEDOM, picks his comments or just totally shuts it down when it hurts…
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:12 am
Sparky go to a hospital. I travel to many daily. They are as full as they have been the last 10 years. It sells to report that they are near full as they have been for many years because that’s how they profit. Covid is slightly more dangerous than the flu. That is science sparky. Covid is more dangerous than the vax, also science. The vax has contributed to 18,000 deaths worldwide according to the scientific veras report. Which is far less than have died from covid obviously. However there is risk in the vax….this is also science sparky…..compare the vax choice to blackjack….dealer is showing a 3, you have 11….the math or science says to hit….usually you will win but sometimes you wont…..the science says to get vaxxed and mostly you will be better off but some people will not…..stop telling others how to play their hand….
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:16 am
Ash not entirely…very minimally.
Bucs-Twits & DB12 both broke protocols. Period. DB12 broke them far longer/more times than Bucs-Twits (I am basing this on reading Bucs-Twits did indeed get vaccinated in the pre-season).
Non-vaxed players can play in the NFL.
So tell me how Bucs-Twits are worse than what DB12 & packers got away with a fine?
The outrage should be at the nfl for sweeping DB12 & packers under the rug, while applying a double standard to Bucs-Twits. Where is the outrage for that? (aside from a few of us haha).
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:18 am
All of this hoopla over a rushed, ineffective vaccination.
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:21 am
@”…If BA cuts Brown and succumbs to media peer pressure he is not only a bad coach but a wuss…”
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I can expect from BA anything. And yes he is bad coach and a wuss.
I hope Glazers take the matter in their hands on this, and don’t run in bias-media-type of conclusion, like they did with Jon G.
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“Sportscaster Brent Musburger: As I told coach, whoever took you out, Jon, that was a paid assassin; That was one of the best hit jobs that I’ve ever been around. They didn’t go to their media g——-. They didn’t leak this to Adam Schefter or one of those guys that breaks stories. They first went to the Wall Street Journal. And when Gruden was still coaching after that, then they dumped the rest of it on the New York Times. That was a professional hit job.”
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The “lying” happen during the training camp. At the time the infection rate was through the roof and vax did nothing to stop it, so their concern taking it was legit . Still they went and got the shot.
Just take it easy, and don’t destroy our players, don’t destroy our team.
Let’s go B!
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:24 am
Henry David Thoreau wrote a treatise called Civil Disobedience in which he opined that individuals should not permit governments or civil authorities to overrule or diminish their consciences and that sovereign man has a duty to avoid allowing such actions against their conscience to enable the said authorities to make them the agents of injustice.
Now, I doubt that Brown has read much Thoreau. I doubt many JBF inmates have read much Thoreau. So while Thoreau articulated his thoughts with quill and papyrus, he was not solitary in his dissent.
In a way, I don’t blame those three at all. I suspect all felt (and possibly still do) that threatening their job over an experimental drug jab they strongly objected to put in their body was a personal injustice. They sought a remedy they felt was equal to the injustice they perceived.
But didn’t work, thanks to an unpaid food bill. Idiot.
And now he suffers the slings and arrows of nadless Nanny Karen serfs who mindlessly comply with The Overlords.
Always remember this: Eastasia has always been at war with Oceania.
I have a higher level of respect for Aaron Rogers, Antonio Brown, and Mike Edwards, along with Cole Beasly and other giants among sheep for looking out for themselves first and foremost.
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:26 am
The issue with a problem child like AB is that you give him one last chance, a pandemic hits, and you have to spend time and energy wondering why he lied about getting a shot, as well as what to do about it. ABs superpower is that he can take any normal situation and turn it upside down on its head, while causing consequences for more than just himself. Naturally, you keep him because winning is more important in business. ZERO chance they bring this knuckle head back next year. He is aging and becoming more prone to injury.
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:36 am
@”…I have a higher level of respect for Aaron Rogers, Antonio Brown, and Mike Edwards, along with Cole Beasly and other giants among sheep for looking out for themselves first and foremost….”
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I “injuring the vocal cords” yelling on this, and still I shall repeat:
AB and Edwards and Rodgers are free men, kudos to them for standing up, I respect them.
They “betrayed” no one, they hurt no one, they try to protect their bodies based on their knowledges, based on their believes.
Let’s go B!
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:43 am
Cobra,
The NFL & NFLPA agreed upon a set of guidelines how the COVID protocols would be implemented and handled. In no way did the NFL or NFLPA mandate the players must get the vaccine.
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:56 am
@Bob in valrico
You’re on target, both AB and Gronk allow Brady to get that ball out fast. Gronk said something funny yesterday, and it applies to both him and AB. Gronk said, “He knows what I’m thinking before I even know what I’m thinking.” This was something I was trying to convey to others on this site earlier. Gronk and AB see the field (read the defense after the snap) the same way Brady sees it. They can find the right seams in zone, they know where and when to break their route on man as they play develops. Defenses can go to a high Cover 2 shell and bracket the deep threats, but it leaves the soft underbelly of the defense exposed. AB is the master of the intermediate level, Gronk the same with short to intermediate levels of the field. Their presence creates opportunities for Evans and Godwin as well.
Brady knows where AB and Gronk will be, which allows him to throw with anticipation. As much as I like Evans and Godwin, you don’t see that with them. They’re damn good receivers in their own right, but that level of chemistry just hasn’t developed yet. In fact, that was the silver lining (in my view) of having both Gronk and AB out: I thought it would force the issue so that Brady, Evans, and Godwin would be forced to work through the chemistry together. It hasn’t happened, at least not yet.
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:02 am
He is a punk, get rid of him. Tampa Bucs, if you have any class cut him.
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:16 am
1sparkybuc Says:
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:34 am
The vaccine prevents death and reduces the need for taking up a hospital bed by making the symptoms milder. It’s science. It’s math. It is not political no matter how many try to insist that it is.
My family and I have had it twice. Wasn’t even as bad as the flu. MY decision to not get us vaccinated has resulted in an Immune System that is by far better than whatever you stuck yourself with. Enjoy myopia and being a sheep tho
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:20 am
Spicoli- You and others beat me to it. All the pontification is hilarious. It really is as simple as breaking the rules.
They don’t have to have the shot but there are rules to follow. I have more respect for someone who takes a stand and doesn’t hide behind deception and lies.
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:24 am
Anyone saying cut ab or Edward’s is dumb asf..enough said
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:25 am
BFM – You hit the nail on the head.
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:59 am
In legal comparisons, these guys “Took the Fifth”.
Dems always “Take the Fifth” and get re-elected;
The “Take the Fifth” for AB and ME was a childish piece of paper, handled to BA.
Same thing. They told him we are not ‘self-incriminating’, take the card.
Florida State Attorney, Miss Ashley Moody, should sue NFL to protect the interests of Florida Citizens.
Let’s Go B!
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:01 am
You say they had a choice. But Arians seemed to be putting extreme pressure on everyone to get it. Remember the criticism Fournette got when he tweeted that he didn’t want it? Then someone made him take the tweet down.
There are a lot of COVID tyrants out there today who get very, very angry if you don’t fully follow their beliefs and edicts.
All for a vax that doesn’t even stop the spread!
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:29 am
@Spicoli: no, they did not mandate. However, the unwashed unvaxxxed were treated excessively badly, b While we are not committing fraudullied if you will, with onerous requirements that has NOTHING to do with the “spread of the disease.”
I am unvaxxxed. I had covid, and am a voracious consumer of medical and scientific material related to this scamdemic.
I also live in a country that as of 12/1, the unvaxxxed cannot go into any indoor public space—including food stores—without a fully vaxxxed card, or a recent PCR test which costs $80 ($160 including the wifely babe) and is only good for five days. Fraudulent documents can result in 10 years in prison.
And while we are not committing fraud, we do have some work-arounds to go to the frickin’ grocery and hardware stores just to live somewhat normally.
Unless things change here, we will sell the house we’re building (really sad, because it’s an amazing custom structure) and move back to Florida, or maybe Texas, the few sane states left in the union.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:32 am
All the frustrated totalitarians out there should be happy that Profootballtalk censors posts that question the vaccine. We can’t have people thinking for themselves, they might get COVID. Don’t be surprised at the one-sided comments on Antonio Brown.
Kudos to Joe for not following their lead.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:33 am
I wish more players of conscience pushed back more.
That NFLPA edict was well before the facts were known about this thing.
Especially since now it has been proven that the vaxxx not only does NOT prevent the spread, it may be responsible for the variants.
The unvaxxxed players in the NFL are treated like a black man in 1950’s Alabama.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:29 pm
On the field AB has been outstanding for the team. Numbers don’t lie. Okay, he faked a V card, got caught and gets suspended for 3 games. Whether anyone agrees with the punishment or not, the cake is baked. Don’t agree with what he did, but it’s not going to make an iota of difference in the locker room. They need him and want him. By the way, Edwards needs to face the music for himself. AB did not bring him down.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:32 pm
SHAME on the NFL for Making their players take a vaccine against their will. People need to wake up, before America is destroyed.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:53 pm
“No Rodgers didn’t have a fake V card, but he did intentionally lie about his vaccine status.”
Lying to the media isn’t against the rules. He didn’t lie to the NFL. Thats the difference. They were fully aware of his situation and he was compliant with their rules
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:03 pm
Probably one of the worst articles I’ve ever read. Seriously, he shouldn’t be cut because a super bowl is at stake?
There are valid arguments to be made for whether or not he should be cut. But his value to the team isn’t one of them.
It was either wrong or it wasn’t. To say he should be cut if he was a nobody but given a pass because you need him to win a super bowl represents everything that’s wrong with pro sports these days, and, frankly, society in general.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:30 pm
send a message. cut!
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:13 pm
Cuz he didn’t want to take a shot that is killing and maiming people!! Yeah that’s smart!! The CDC just released their data on phitzer and it killed THOUSANDS in the first month… 7 out of ten pregnant women lost their baby… So you want to get rid of the guy cuz he refused that… Smart!!…. I can’t stand the guy and was against getting him to begin with but this is just dumb
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:58 pm
Sorryjackchuckiesback Says:
“I can’t stand the guy and was against getting him to begin with but this is just dumb.”
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I noticed that many of the same people who were against signing him in the first place, based on team chemistry and principles, are now the people defending him based on those same principles.
It shows that we apply principles equally to people no matter who they are, and whether we like them or not. It is a life lesson for anyone paying attention.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:58 pm
I loved this article, Joe. BTW, Edwards is JUST the same exact guilty as AB, and who knows (?) may have even talked him into doing it.
December 3rd, 2021 at 7:45 pm
BT-Tampa Says:
“All the frustrated totalitarians out there should be happy that Profootballtalk censors posts that question the vaccine… Kudos to Joe for not following their lead.”
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Not only does PFT censor, it seems pretty apparent to me that they are loaded with “seminar commenters,” who probably work from one of Hitlary’s troll farms. They work feverishly all morning jacking up likes and dislikes to follow their narrative. If you go back the next day, and just read the bottom half of the comments, you find the real direction of opinion, and it’s polar opposite of the top half. 🤔