Washington 29, Bucs 19
November 14th, 2021Our beloved Bucs were just manhandled by a bad football team.
Welcome to one of the biggest upsets of the NFL season.
Joe can’t even call it Capitol Collapse (Part II) since the Bucs never led in the game.
As hard as it is for Joe to type, the Bucs just lost to Trevor Siemian and Taylor Heinicke in consecutive games. A 6-3 record never felt so dark.
The disappearance of no-risk-it-no-biscuit offense, an ineffective short passing game, no punishing ground attack, a too-inconsistent pass rush, and a too-average-looking Tom Brady combined with overmatched cornerbacks all added up to a stinker that likely will haunt the Bucs in January.
You just can’t let Taylor Heinicke go 26-for-32 for 256 yards and a touchdown. It just can’t happen.
Joe has to tip a hat to Washington for sticking with their ground attack even though it wasn’t working will. Minus a few Heinicke scrambles, Washington handed off 31 times for just 80 yards, but it was just enough.
Joe’s most disappointed by the Bucs — on a day when their passing attack was lacking — couldn’t move the chains running the ball against a defense down its two best edge rushers. The balance should have been there and it wasn’t. Why? Washington entered the game with the 29th-ranked defense in the NFL.
Lotta heart out there from Chris Godwin playing hurt and Jordan Whitehead firing away at safety.
Joe is ill.
Right now it feels like home-field advantage was just flushed down the toilet.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:57 pm
The Bucs sucks!!!
November 14th, 2021 at 3:57 pm
This was worse than the NO loss.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:57 pm
Hot garbage coaching right here
November 14th, 2021 at 3:57 pm
Did Lovie Smith come back?
November 14th, 2021 at 3:57 pm
That was hard to watch.. really sucked…
November 14th, 2021 at 3:57 pm
Hard to see that pathetic performance coming off the bye.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
This defense can’t stop anyone
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
First time all season that I really think this is not a championship squad.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
THEN STOP HYPING UP THIS TERRIBLE DEFENSE.
This “Gravediggers” crap against injured O-Lines in the playoffs.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
Boring offense
Brady looks so old out there too
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
Bucs has the most pathetic group of coaches. Totally clueless!
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
What a terrible all around played game! Both times we get a TD defense coughs it up. 10 min plus drive embarrassing
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
Very bad loss. Off of a bye week. This is what we know to be Bucs fans.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
This team will be lucky if they even make the playoffs as a wildcard team
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
More disappointed at this loss than of any this season. No excuses for this type of performance coming off a BYE. It’s obvious to me that our team wasn’t ready to play AND was poorly coached throughout the game.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:58 pm
Let’s be real here… we know the defense sucks. Just like when JW was here, the offense cannot put the pathetic defense in bad situations.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
The defense needs to figure something out quickly. Everybody is going to play us this exact same way. I still can’t believe we didn’t get the ball back after we scored with almost 11 minutes left on the clock. That is just criminal.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
OUTCOACHED yet again on both sides of the ball.
Bucs lack the ability to ADJUST in games.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
As it currently stands, we are not a very good football team. Really nothing else to say.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
Hey Joe,
“YOU LIKE THAT!?!?”
So much for the reverse Capitol Collapse.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
A$$ whoopin’ doesn’t begin to describe thar game.
Poor game plan, effort, and execution.
Casuals should be embarrassed to think this game was a gimmee.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
I know the offense wasn’t great but the defense had two chances after the Bucs scored a td to take the momentum and they allowed two tds! How is that on the offense? How!!!!!
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
Yep…Whitehead played with a lot of heart, but he also had a pick bounce off his hands and go right to a skins receiver for a first down. Only playmaker on the field was levote with the punch strip (which otherwise would have been another skins first down to a wide open receiver).
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
Hey Joe, injuries DO matter.
Now can you stop with that stupid crap about how it doesn’t matter if Gronk, AB, Brown, Davis, SMB, everyone else doesn’t play it doesn’t matter.
Also what’s with closing the comments before the game even ends. Come on.
Yes, it’s horrible for Joe to close it with 45 seconds left.–Joe
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
So Bad Open Thread In Game Comments closed before game is even over.
Yes, it’s horrible for Joe to close it with 45 seconds left.–Joe
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
Drive-Extending Penalties… AGAIN.
Simply bad discipline and that falls on coaching.
November 14th, 2021 at 3:59 pm
Our offense was underperforming but when we cut it to one score both possessions after, the defense let WFT score. It’s a bad defense by design and we are obviously banged up. There is zero excuse to get thoroughly ramrodded on that last drive for 11 minutes. Completely humiliating. Our defensive line by far is the biggest disappointment.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
Our curse is getting beat by unknown and unheralded QB’s. Brady was off and our Defense sucked to holy hell and beyond. We deserved to lose. For all of you who said in previous post we were going to blowout DC. Just remember, On any given Sunday…
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
And Vea carted off. S#!t.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
The redskins taking a knee on the XP so we don’t try to score? What kind of pansy crap is that.
Go out and get Godwin a TD, I need points from Brady and Godwin.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
Season is over.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
Somehow our run defense caved at just the worst times. Can’t stand losing Vea like that at the end… One of only impact players today. Only consistent guy on dline
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
The Bucs shouldn’t be favored to win any game all season long now after this poopy loss
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
terrible
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
This is on the bucs defense. A TEN MINUTE DRIVE! TEN MINUTES!
Absolutely ridiculous. And they know it probably as well.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
Let’s see about Vita Vea’s injury. That might be a bigger loss than the score.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
They ran off ELEVEN MINUTES
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
Guess we don’t have to listen to Joe talking about home field advantage anymore. Bucs will be the 3rd seed, if they’re lucky.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
This team seriously sucks. This coaching staff is pathetic!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
Get ready to lose in the wild card round.
Cuz that’s all we’re good for.
#PaperChampions #TheSucaneersAreBackBaby!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
The have been getting our coached. With all this talent its a shame. Hopefully the coaches realize they are they weak link.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
Definitely doesn’t look like a playoff team.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
Lmao this should be a curb stomping. I don’t want you to write that ever again Joe. This team is over rated and undisciplined. Brady needs Gronk and AB back. Defense needs to find their nuts and CB need to be able to play press or not be allowed on the field. WFT broke all kinds of records today.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
Now, could you stop being ‘cute’ with the WTF and show them respect as they kicked our butts.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
19 play 80 yard drive. 10:24 drive?!?!? Then Vea laying hurt…. Great day to be a Bucs fan!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
D can’t stop anybody and Offense has been neutered with this dink and dunk crap all day. This is a recipe for disaster
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
On a positive note, season tickets will be available again for a discount next year if you’re a glutton for punishment.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
Then of course Vita gets injured like he does every single year.
He gets ran over on 3rd down and short with like 4 mins left, he could have made the stop, instead he doesn’t, now he gets injured again…
What a game.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
C’mon guys we sucked recently but season is not over you quitters. If we get healthy at the right time we have a chance
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
If Vea is out for awhile…..this season is pretty much over cause no one else is even getting any pressures
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
And Vea got hurt…..
Can the defense just concede scores sometimes if things like that are going to happen?
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
The vea injury might have sealed their fate as well.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
I would fire Bruce Arians. He sucks!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
When you give teams first down on penalties (first half Bucs), don’t give teams first downs on penalties(WFT entire game), this is what you get. Should’ve put Blaine in the game
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
Toilet Bowles defense couldn’t stop a Pop Warner team. Pathetic.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
@Joe
What were you saying about Riverboat Ron? He’s like most coaches, he needs a quality QB. He absolutely out-coached Bruce Arians today.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
Not winning any Super Bowls this season.
Let’s Go Brady!
Let’s Go Brandon!
Peace, out
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
We’ll be lucky to win another game this year. Bucs are garbage.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
So this is how we were played by wtf in the playoffs, why did we not adjust to their game? Bowles just let this happen. The Buccaneers are way way over rated and are on track for a loss to the Giants next.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
Play of the game, a gutless cowarderly Arians punting from midfield down 2 scores in the 4th quarter, with a gutless defense that can’t stop anyone.
Arians needs to be taken to task for that. I don’t care that the Bucs lucked out and got a TO, that’s just cowardly BS.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
Limp Biscuit offense.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
Giants are gonna put up a 40 burger on this defense with the immortal Daniel Jones.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
19 plays for 80 yards!!! Over 10 minutes lol
November 14th, 2021 at 4:03 pm
I told you that Saints loss was catastrophic. This team is done, guys. There is no intensity. There is no heart. There’s a total lack of interest in winning. Many are just going through the motions. And the coaching staff seems to have checked out as well.
Sorry, but I’m calling it. The season is over. They may well win a playoff spot, sure. The rest of the division is a joke too. But they aren’t going anywhere in January. The defense won’t get any better. They’ve been bad all year. We just haven’t noticed as much because the offense was scoring 30+ points a game. But now the offense sucks. And this looks more and more like its starting to fall apart.
Lose to the Giants next week and the wheels may start to come off for good for this team.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:03 pm
This defense is always hollering and celebrating on the few splash plays they make and then can’t stop a team that averaged under 20 pts. All hype and no performance.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:03 pm
Coburn don’t tell me how I should feel about this f’n loss. We suck!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:03 pm
New Orleans just missed two point conversion
Trail by two with a minute to go
November 14th, 2021 at 4:03 pm
Byron Leftwich did a terrible job calling plays on offense
November 14th, 2021 at 4:03 pm
We suck but NO looks to lose, ATL lost and CAR probably will too.
Home field advantage?
Who cares.
We just need to get our heads out of our asses.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:04 pm
We aren’t good…..its that simple. The JPP injury makes our front seven avg….throw in our secondary is trash and all the burden goes to our offense which gave the ball away 2x in scoring range. With Gronk and Brown out, we look pedestrian on offense. Leftwich and Bowles look like they are getting out coached on a weekly basis. With no pass rush, no secondary and a sputtering offense that refuses to run, it will be a rough ride to the playoffs.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:04 pm
Hey We ready to start talking draft? N.O game then bye this this Sh!t show. DONE!
BUCS DO NOT DESERVE ANY RESPECT AT ALL!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:04 pm
Rod Munch i don’t wanna hear that crap! This defense twice had a chance to give the momentum after the bucs scored a td and they failed miserably.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:05 pm
FU Bruce Arians. FU Todd Bowles. FU Licht. FU Desir, Delaney and Dean.
Bruce and Todd for failing to have them ready to play. Licht for not fixing this problem.
This is a one and done team. Fattened up and ready to all get paid. Not play.
Brady, too. Aren’t you supposed to prevent this? 30 dink and dunk passes.
Pathetic effort.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:05 pm
Looks like the Bucs spent their bye week looking at the pundits power rankings thinking they are a good team.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:05 pm
Lol Coburn, you clueless optimistic idiot.
It’s over. We will not advance from the 1st round.
This team is softer than a baby’s belly. They are pretenders, nothing more.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:05 pm
For all you morons complaining, this IS the defense you wanted. YOU said to stop the all out blitzes – they did, and they couldn’t get off the field. I said blitz balls out on every play, your defense sucks and will give up a score anyways, so at least give the ball back to Brady and let him have a chance to score points, and and the all-out blitzes will either result in quick scores or maybe a turnover.
But no, you dopes wanted to sit back, let the other team control the clock for 11 mins because you’re idiots that don’t understand how depth charts work.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:05 pm
Whupped by good and bad teams. Are we average?
November 14th, 2021 at 4:05 pm
New Orleans just lost
Phew!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:05 pm
Very sad, but we could see It coming.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:05 pm
Saints just lost so there’s some hope left. That was a piss poor outing, hopefully the coaching staff and players can get it together. Too many penalties that hurt ourselves
November 14th, 2021 at 4:06 pm
“Our beloved Bucs were just manhandled by a bad football team”.
Right on Joe, it is that simple
November 14th, 2021 at 4:06 pm
The collapse of the no pressures from the D-Line is worse than all the third-stringers playing in the secondary
there’s just simply no pressure from the D-Line all year long!!!
Shaq got paid and he don’t care anymore
November 14th, 2021 at 4:06 pm
Earned it today Bucs.
Great pathetic job.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:06 pm
We just are not deep at all. All the injuries exposes a pretty average to below average team and an average NFL team can lose to anyone anytime.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:06 pm
Two weeks in a row and the offense is dogcrap for entire 1st half. We dont protect the football.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:06 pm
Bowles needs to held accountable for this garbage.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:06 pm
The play calls on offense were unimaginative, and did just about nothing to open up the receivers. You cannot say the same thing about WFT, Riverboat Ron got the maximum out of the minimum talent.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
I thought for a second there maybe they’re a good team? Nope we were terrible. No good pressure and bad secondary. We freaking suck
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
The NFC South is the new NFC East of last year. You all know Bowles was fired from the worst team in the NFL? This coaching staff is so bad and overrated. A QB that can’t get out.of his way at 2-6 scored 30 points and went 26 for 32. Do we really think getting average at best CB’s back is going to change this? Sure Gronk & Brown will definitely help the O. Fire all the coaches and start from scratch at least they have talent.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Why TF are none of comments posting?
This crap happens all the time. Half the reason I quit coming here.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
For Shame!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Bruce and Byron suck.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Our secondary is by far the problem. Playing 10 yard cushion zone coverage with practice squad corners. I’ll never forgive coaching for putting Calton on Special Teams. That decision could of cost us a high seed
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Joe says:
Right now it feels like home-field advantage was just flushed down the toilet.
STOP assuming we are going to the playoffs and remember “every given Sunday”
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
They have yet to beat a good team this year except for maybe the Cowboys.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Pass rush is absent when you need them the most. There is no creativity on defense to mix up things. Same with Leftwich’s offense no imagination to open up guys and create plays.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:08 pm
Why are fans attacking each other. The BUCS lost the game, we didn’t. They are what they are.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:08 pm
Season turning loss. Its all down hill from here.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:08 pm
I want the story about how garbage Dee Delaney cost the Bucs the game, he sucks. Literally 2 TDs because he shouldn’t be on the field.
Of course the fact he’s better than Sherman, that tells you everything.
Season is over if Davis can’t get back here soon. The Bucs can not stop anyone, every single team in the NFL can do what the Redskins just did. If you don’t have NFL talent at corner, if you’re playing your 7th string corners who are giving up multiple TDs, this is the outcome.
But thankfully the Falcons lost so we’re still alive for that 7th playoff seed.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:08 pm
Todd Bowles is actually the best coach on the team cause he’s using 3rd stringers in the secondary and his D-Line isn’t getting pressure and atleast he’s keeping games close
IT’S THE OFFENSE this is sucking really bad right now…………very vanilla/preseason like
Dumping it off to Playoff Lenny 20 times a game isn’t going to win you games Bucco Brucie!!!!!!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:09 pm
Can anyone tell me if Shaq Barret played today?
November 14th, 2021 at 4:10 pm
Story of the game shows up in the TOP: 39 mins Washington to 21 mins Bucs; they controlled the game. Plays reflect that: 71 WFT to 47 Bucs.
BUCS run-pass ratio back down to 27.7% this game (awful play-calling IMO), even though Lenny (11 carries) averaged 4.4 YPR. Washington run-pass was up at 47.9%, (34 carries for 94 yds), even though they only averaged 2.8 YPR. Excellent play-calling on their part IMO, and it allowed them to control the game.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:10 pm
Idk what the offensive play calling was today. It certainly was not no riskit no biscuit. Passive, pathetic. It’s like we stuck to the same crap all game. Defense looks terrible. I get were missing guys, but golly. This is just sad. Not getting home at all. What happened to the rush defense? This was gutless all around. I heard that the boys were very mad after the Saints game. Sure doesn’t seem like it to me!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:10 pm
Very vanilla play calling for sure. We pretty much played to lose.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:10 pm
Austin Says:
November 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Our secondary is by far the problem. Playing 10 yard cushion zone coverage with practice squad corners. I’ll never forgive coaching for putting Calton on Special Teams. That decision could of cost us a high seed
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But today the D line got it handed to them also
And the O line got it handed to them also
Tom playing Scared Rinky dinky dinky dunk WHAT!!!!! is that
November 14th, 2021 at 4:11 pm
Trolls out in full force
Screw ya mama and ya comments
Go Bucs
November 14th, 2021 at 4:11 pm
Bucs coordinators have no imaginations to create plays. An analogy is, they have all the best ingredients and chef in front of them and the only thing they can come up with is a fried chicken and mashed potatoe! Pathetic
November 14th, 2021 at 4:11 pm
Stop polishing your superbowl rings. Penalties (completely stupid ones too), dropped passes (Darden you suck), predictable play calling (Redskins were all over our bubble screens after we used it 10 times in a row). We are not a super bowl caliber team. You don’t lose to a pathetic 4th string quarterback if you are championship caliber. Our worthless, grocery bagger cornerbacks should go back to their day job, at Publix. Can’t wait to watch us get our teeth kicked in on MNF. Er Go Bucs! Pathetic non performance and we lost Vea, one of the few who actually tried.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:11 pm
They’ll blow it, Toms will retire and back to the dark days.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:11 pm
I don’t know how anyone can get on this offense. Your defense twice had a chance to give the ball back to the bounce to take the lead and they failed miserably. Allowed two tds including a 10 minute drive to end the game. This is not a good football team right now.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:11 pm
Yes the secondary is a problem.
Starting CB was the weakest position on the roster. Backup CB was the shallowest position on the roster in terms of quality depth. When did Licht draft a CB? The seventh round. The Bucs are reaping what they sowed.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:11 pm
THE BUCS DID NOTHING TO IMPROVE THIS ROSTER EVEN THOUGH WE HAD ALL THESE INJURIES..EVEN THE PANTHERS MADE A COUPLE TRADES TO GET BETTER.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:12 pm
Did RoJo play today?
November 14th, 2021 at 4:12 pm
Rod … I agree with you about Delaney (at least in this game). Maybe he’s still hurt, but definitely had no business being on the field. Still, despite 5 sacks our pass rush didn’t do him any favors.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:12 pm
Joe why are my comments in timeout?
November 14th, 2021 at 4:12 pm
When is SMB going back? It’s been over two months since the dislocation . You figure he will play next week already. What’s the holdup?
November 14th, 2021 at 4:12 pm
some of the WORST PLAYING AND COACHING
ive witnessed this year. absolute fn garbage.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:13 pm
Good thing they drafted a backup QB in the 2nd round instead of depth a piece at cornerback.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:14 pm
The Redskins defense was fired up. They played us well today. The Bucs had the plays they needed. But when they needed to make the play Darden fumbled or Leonard fumbled or Brady airmailed an easy pick or O.J. showed us why he is a #3TE. Too many mistakes.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:14 pm
If we can get Davis, and, Gronk, ab, Miller all back things will be very different. I know that’s a big if, but some the overreaction crowd here were saying the same thing last year after being blown out by the saints and the chiefs last year
November 14th, 2021 at 4:14 pm
This team is banking on getting healthy and making a run in the playoffs. That’s all good but it’s a lot different this year with crowds in the stadium on the road.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:14 pm
Bucs Fans shouldn’t blame Todd Bowles
He’s using third-stringers for his secondary
BUCS FANS should expect Todd Bowles to cook steak with his defense when all he has is stinky rotten fish in his secondary
This ain’t Bowles fault bucs fans.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:15 pm
This is one of the worst regular season losses that I can remember us having and we’ve had plenty. I’m going to be depressed for one day and then throw this loss the f out of my mind.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:15 pm
I don’t know how Bowles an let his corners play this pu$$y-a$$ weak soft coverage 10 yards off and then blitz…TOTAL DISCONNECT HERE!!!!!!!
Who the hell is coaching the corners. FIRE IMMEDIATELY!!
This is freaken COMMON SENSE!! Our corners are scared mentally weak little girls! Tired of seeing such blatant STUPIDITY from this team!!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:16 pm
Francisco … ‘I don’t know how anyone can get on this offense.’
Uhhh, how about only 19 points from our #1 offense? How about 2 turnovers from our #1 offense? How about only 19 mins TOP & 47 plays (season low?) from our #1 offense?
Or, how about the horribly unimaginative game-planning AND play-calling on the part of our offensive coaching staff? Nah, go ahead and pile on the defense. That’s a lot more fun, isn’t it.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:16 pm
The Bucs had two weeks to prepare for a bad football………and laid a rotten egg
This team is in serious trouble
November 14th, 2021 at 4:17 pm
LOL at making excuses for this team…
The pass rush has been pathetic all season long! It only shows up against weak teams.
And Tommy boy ain’t the same guy he used to be. He’s no longer clutch. Sorry fans, it was a one year wonder. This team is nothing but pretenders.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:17 pm
This defense is a joke against the pass…has been for the better part of two decades. Great, they won it last year…still don’t think injuries to KCs O-line didn’t matter? They cannot get pressure with just 4 guys, and when they don’t they get lit…and when they blitz, their Division II caliber secondary cannot hold up. Saints about to lose again, so they remain in 1st place even though they don’t deserve. Anyone else tired of them making average QBs look like Dan Marino? Or Bowles getting owned repeatedly by Sean Payton, playoff win notwithstanding? I don’t expect them to win every game, nor do I expect them to repeat because few team have. What I do expect is for you to not play down to the competition, be believers of your own press clippings about how great a defense you are (Devin White and the Gravediggers) and to not be shocked when the other team is out to gut you like fish because you’re the Champs. And I don’t want to hear about injuries to that joke of a secondary. The backend benefited from what the front seven did in the playoffs. The front seven isn’t getting it done. Simple as that.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:17 pm
Season Over
November 14th, 2021 at 4:17 pm
Bruce Arians was on the Herd Podcast a few weeks ago, and he commented on how all he does for game prep is recommend a few plays
to Byron. Time for Bruce to participate a bit more. The offensive scheme is average at best. All we do is check down to Lenny, despite enormous talent. Could you imagine what Sean Payton or Andy Reid could do with our talent and TB12?
The defense is downright awful and continues to be plagued by injuries. What is even worse is how the injuries happen. Carlton Davis has missed most of the year because our coaches saw no issue playing him on special teams. Now VEA is probably out for the year after a 19 PLAY DRIVE.
I am sick! Go Bucs
November 14th, 2021 at 4:17 pm
For those demanding we had drafted another corner.. has Cockrell even been that bad? He was our 4th corner at the start of the year. Are there really that many teams who have a better 4th guy? I can’t think of too many teams that would be better off if they were playing guys 7 deep at a position
November 14th, 2021 at 4:18 pm
One bright light on this lost is we are still on top of our division. For how long? maybe a week.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
Once again bucs fans
stop blaming Todd Bowles……he’s making miracles happen out there by playing third-stringers in his secondary
November 14th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
What did work on during the bye? Commit more pre snap penalties? Miss more tackles? Throw more INTs?
If so, sure looks like a successful week of preparation!
Peace, out
November 14th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
Todd Bowles should be figuratively shot for the game plan the last two games. I don’t care if your DB’s are me, Defense Rules and Cobra Boy, you cannot let Taylor Heineke eat 11 minutes off the clock to ice the game. It is beyond shameful.
Ask yourself why Trevor Siemien and Taylor Heineke know exactly where to go with the ball when we blitz and exactly where to go with the ball when we drop into coverage.
Heineke was 11/19 on 3rd Down and 2/2 on 4th. Absolutely shameful.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
It’s like the Joe’s forgot they were Bucs fans. You should never expect a win from this team. Never ever ever. Hopefully this is a wake up call for the team and it’s fans.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
We got 5 sacks today. We can definitely get pressure. You know what helps the d-line? When the QB has to hold the ball. Are they holding the ball with our secondary? No… You can’t win in the NFL when your TOP THREE CORNERS are hurt… The fact we have 6 wins right now is amazing. That’s the silver lining.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
On any given Sunday…………………..
November 14th, 2021 at 4:20 pm
Defense rules the offense scored twice in this game and the defense had chances to give the ball right back to the offense and they failed miserably. They allowed two tds including the final drive. Had they gotten a stop the bucs offense comes back and takes over. Unfortunately the defense couldn’t give the offense the ball back.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:20 pm
Too much nonsense and mistakes.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:20 pm
Defense Rules – The offense was slow to start but you realize we only had the ball 20 minutes thanks to our crap-in-our-pants defense????
Could even get any possessions to score points cuz REDSKINS PUNTED ONLY ONCE IN THIS GAME!!!!!
Freaken joke of a team right now.
DEFENSE IS PURE TRASH!! ZERO HEART!
Fools lookin’ at themselves in the mirror and gloating from last year.
Never mentally checked in this season…
Coaches to blame for that!!!
November 14th, 2021 at 4:20 pm
Did someone say pass rush????
WHAT PASS RUSH?????
Shaq got paid and doesn’t care anymore
Suh is done
JPP is done
and if Vita Vea is hurt……….then this season is OVER
November 14th, 2021 at 4:21 pm
Austin you’re acting like if they’re healthy this pass defense will be all world. Idk about that not with Bowles and his lousy scheme.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:21 pm
OJFC Coburn give it up, these CBs are poor.
The Bucs are the sixth worse team at pass defense in the NFL, and they haven’t even faced a high quality QB since Week Three. Let that sink in.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:22 pm
There are a lot if circumstances to excuse this loss (it is true we are very very banged up on both sides of the ball) but… we just lost to a 2-6 team, with a bunch of important players hurt too… let that sink in…
November 14th, 2021 at 4:22 pm
Gotta hope Vea is ok. That would be a huge lost .
November 14th, 2021 at 4:23 pm
DR, when the defense allows a 10 min drive to close out the game, your time of possession argument against the offense goes out the window.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:24 pm
2 consecutive loses for Brady. Never happened to him in 20 yrs while with Belichick. It shows you the coaching mindset of Belichick (The real guru) and Arians (The pretender).
November 14th, 2021 at 4:24 pm
This ain’t the same without AB and Gronk. And the Defense just can’t come up with those timely plays at the end. 8 games left to figure it out, probably need to win 5 of them to take the division. Makes every game important now.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:24 pm
DR yes the offense was a pile of garbage way to much, but to give a 10+ minute drive to get beat is clear for all to see that the D line was Physically dominated for most of the game. They are usually good against the run because they win the line of Scrimmage BUT not today. Will not bring the beat up Secondary lol I have said enough about their over time.
And just for good measure the O line was beaten most of the day and turned Tommy Boy in to Rinky dinky dunk offense.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:24 pm
The defense was good on first and second down. On third down they varied from poor, poorer, to porous.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:26 pm
It was flushed down the toilet after the NO loss. But still…no matter. Look at the record. Who have we handily beaten other than the worst teams in the league? Everyone…yes…everyone has played us tight…or said otherwise, we couldn’t beat anyone convincingly but a bad team. Time to smell the coffee boys. It is what it is.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:26 pm
Except for a couple of lapses and stupid penalties, I’m not blaming the O Line. The pressure that Brady faced was the result of the rather limited receiving options not getting open.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:26 pm
Danny Dimes is gonna light up this defense next week. Isn’t Bowles tired of losing to crappy QBs or average QBs? His defense got picked apart .
November 14th, 2021 at 4:27 pm
We were down by 10 at half and we lost by ten.
To start the second half our defense had back to back stops(almost one for a safety) and our offense scored 3 measley and kept us behind.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:28 pm
“stop blaming Todd Bowles……he’s making miracles happen out there by playing third-stringers in his secondary”
Anthem, respectfully…. he’s not. We supposedly have one of the best front 7’s in football and they cannot make a play. The last two QB’s are throwing the ball on the money because he cannot devise a way to disrupt the QB. Taylor Heineke is going to be 11-20 for 112 yards and a pick next week. WFT will draft a QB high in the draft. Good Coordinators do not allow that to be done.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:29 pm
Never have I ever ever been so disappointed in the Buccaneers as I was today. That did not look like the Superbowl Champs! They looked like peewee football team that didn’t know how to walk onto the field without stuppeling. Brady looked like he is wanting to loose hoping we will trade him back to the Patriots. He keeps playing like this maybe we can recoup some of our money
Very evident after playing the Patriots where his heart really is. It sure wasn’t with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers today that’s for sure.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:32 pm
Did Shaq play today?
November 14th, 2021 at 4:32 pm
So sad some of you guys can’t really see what is going on. This team hasn’t convincingly beaten any good teams this year. Every game has been a battle. We have been hurt. We couldn’t even beat the Saints. Or Washington. I don’t know how many losses it will take…but this isn’t our year. You can cry about Bowles, Arians, this patchwork D, a couple of our aged best O players down for who knows how long, and such. Can we find the fountain of youth and get everyone healthy by playoff time? We can hope for a miracle, I guess. But for this year,. it is what it is.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:32 pm
@ Rob
Noone has ever heard of the bucs DBs until all the starters got hurt and went down……that is 100% significant.
and touche on the D-Line
The D-Line is simply got getting home enough making these poopy QBs look like Bret Farve out there
November 14th, 2021 at 4:33 pm
The only portion of this defense that is playing well……are the LBs….THAT’S IT!
This defense sucks so bad right now…..cringe worthy
November 14th, 2021 at 4:34 pm
ANY team can just spy on Lenny–he gets the ball 90% of 1st downs -either pass or run 90% of 1st downs
November 14th, 2021 at 4:34 pm
JimmyJack what you talking about? Our offense make it 16-13 and this defense then gave up a td drive to make it 23-13. When our offense scored a td the defense gave it right back. They never gave this offense a chance to get on top in the second half. Too inconsistent.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:38 pm
I’ve tried a reality intervention. But whatever…proceed. Play calling, one player, one unit, blah blah blah. Well, I guess whatever helps. Maybe screaming at the moon?
November 14th, 2021 at 4:38 pm
I tell you what though, lenny is probably getting PAID after this year. He’s been shown to be integral, a safety net. Very reliable. Lenny is a major bright spot
November 14th, 2021 at 4:39 pm
Lowering my expectations with the Bucs. I just hope we make the playoffs.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:39 pm
I hate the fact that Playoff Lenny accounts for like 50% of teams offense right now
and the I hate the fact that Rojo has pretty been relegated to the bench now
November 14th, 2021 at 4:41 pm
Passing thru or course they’re poor…. They’re the #5/6/7 guys that are giving up plays. Dean has been fairly good overall (metrics actually show him at an elite level), Cockrell hasnt been great or bad, some key break ups (metrics I’ve seen show him around average which is as good as anyone could espeft for your #4). #1 and #3 guys have been injured… So people are after the front office because we didn’t shore up our #5/6/7 guys before the start of the season
November 14th, 2021 at 4:43 pm
163…. wise conclusion. That is where we are.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:44 pm
And for the record not making it far into postseason because of injuries is a legit thing to happen. Half the battle is making it to post season with a mostly healthy team. Teams that go far are often ones that manage to stay fairly healthy, like us last year
November 14th, 2021 at 4:48 pm
Yes Coburn… the number one goal should be to get everyone healthy. In the current state of things, this team isn’t going to beat any good team on the road, in a big game. And playing guys hurting and delaying full return to health isn’t going to get us more than one home game.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:49 pm
Bucfan1988 … ‘The offense was slow to start but you realize we only had the ball 20 minutes thanks to our crap-in-our-pants defense????’
Oh wow, that’s beautiful. So the fact that the Bucs #1-ranked offense only scored 19 pts in a 60-minute ballgame is the defense’s fault? It’s NOT because they turned the ball over TWICE ending 2 drives? And it’s not because we punted on 3 other drives? Good thing they were playing against the #29-ranked defense or it might have REALLY been embarrassing.
The defense we put on the field today got whooped up on … but so did the offense we put on the field. It was a total TEAM loss IOW.
And in case you didn’t notice, that same offense was totally unimaginative. Only 2 catches for Mike Evans? None for OJ & only 1 for Brate? Every time I looked up there was TB12 dumping it off to Fournette for a 2-yard gain. A run-pass ratio of less than 28% pretty much assured that our TOP would be way down. Whoopee. It’s called unimaginative coaching.
November 14th, 2021 at 4:58 pm
Fransisco i thought i remembered being down ten at halftime . In the second our defense made 2 stops and the offense still struggled and turned those stops into 3 points. I think this offense is good enough to give us leads. Not play from behind.
November 14th, 2021 at 5:04 pm
I’m not blaming this loss on him, but I’d cut OJ Howard in the locker room and give him enough money for greyhound fare home. After 2 weeks of harping about ignorant penalties, he jumps on the first play of the game. A scripted play. He jumps. If that’s as much attention to detail you can expect from him, goodbye. You can’t fix stupid and you can’t coach ignorance.
November 14th, 2021 at 5:06 pm
August 1976 Buc … I totally agree with you that ‘to give a 10+ minute drive to get beat is clear for all to see that the D line was Physically dominated for most of the game’. Heinicke is a very mobile QB & he took advantage of us on a couple of good runs for 1st downs. The Washington OLine did a good job of protecting him on MOST downs (he did get sacked 5 times), and gave him time to find open receivers.
But it was the Washington game-plan that did us in (almost identical to the Rams game-plan against us BTW except for the deep balls). They were persistent in running the ball (on almost 50% of the plays), even though they averaged less than 3 YPC. And they ran it right down out throats … and wore us out. They did a great job I thought of not giving away their plays (unlike us), and their short passing ended up being extremely effective (Heinicke threw for over 80% completions), and many of those were just enough to get a 1st down. They kept us guessing pretty much the whole game.
So on the day we lost the turnover battle (2-1), we lost the TOP battle (39 mins – 21 mins), we lost the 1st down battle (23-14), and oh ya we lost on total plays (71-47). Most importantly though, we lost the POINTS BATTLE: 29-19. Washington CONTROLLED THE GAME, on BOTH sides of the ball.
November 14th, 2021 at 5:23 pm
Didn’t like the lack of attacking the Washington secondary. Too many dump offs and bubble screens. Brady’s protection was OK to take more shots downfield vs a no-name secondary that gives up 300 yards passing per game.
Hate that they don’t even try to jam average wide receivers and leave the slant open every week.
Terrible prep by the staff. Horrible effort on defense. Drops everywhere by the Bucs.
Can anyone on coaching staff figure out how to outsmart backup quarterbacks every week?
November 14th, 2021 at 5:25 pm
Huge much needed wake up call, im sure it’ll help us overall
November 14th, 2021 at 6:06 pm
A trip through Bucs Memory Lane today for me.
November 14th, 2021 at 7:14 pm
What group of losers these fans are! Your missing 3 of your best offensive players , a secondary that wouldn’t start on a D2 team. Grow the Fxxx up. Maybe Brady should retire at the end of the season !
November 14th, 2021 at 9:33 pm
Injuries to 3 key guys on offense and 3 guys in the secondary are definitely an issue but we had enough talent to win this game. What ever was broken during the Saints game didn’t get fixed for this game after two weeks to prepare.
The last time a loss hurt like this was against the Falcons at home in the last game with Jameis Winston as our quarterback when he threw a pick 6 as his last throw as a Buc that ended that season.
This of course is a little different because we should be winning games like this.
November 14th, 2021 at 11:06 pm
RELAX
November 15th, 2021 at 7:34 am
No excuses they lost it’s ok we still leading the division I’m not worried at all . But all yall talk bad about Billchick and how Billchick was nothing without Brady. Yall talked about it’s all Brady and that’s we needed. Yall ignore just about every other player on this team . When I was telling yall that it’s a team game yall call me a Brady hater. Brady played with the same 2019 team 2 weeks in a row and you got the same results.