Targeting Pierre Desir
November 1st, 2021
Locked in on a Bucs corner.
Joe wrote yesterday how the clock finally struck midnight for the depleted Bucs cornerbacks.
Ravaged by injuries, the Bucs at times prior to yesterday’s stepping on a rake had been down their top five cornerbacks. Rarely do teams survive this.
Yet the Bucs had. Until yesterday.
Who says? Sean Payton, that’s who.
In his weekly “Football in America” column, Elon Musk-peeved, almond milk-sipping, hot-dog-eating-contest-protesting, mock-draft-scowling, L.L.-Bean-wearing, tennis fans’ advocate, Second Amendment abolitionist, Mike-Florio-arguing, parrot-insensitive, chewing-with-his-mouth-open, soup-gulping, California-train-romancing, anti-football proliferation, outhouse-admiring, airline-napping, steerage-flying, Yogi Berra-worshiping, urinal-picture-taking, video-game-playing, Taylor-Swift-listening, pickpocket-thwarting, Bucs-uniform-frowning, Allie-LaForce-smitten, Big-Ten-Network-hating, pedestrian-bumping, olive oil-lapping, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, craft-beer-chugging, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, college football-naïve, baseball-box-score-reading, NPR-honk, filthy-hotel-staying, fight-instigating, barista-training, Budweiser-tolerant, baseball-scorecard-keeping, pasta-feasting, vomit-dodging scrooge, Kay-Adams-following, Coors-Light-souring, pineapple-upside-down-cake-eating social activist and NFL insider Peter King of NBC Sports spoke with the Saints coach.
Payton told King in the Saturday night meeting with his quarterbacks, he and Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, began whittling down the playsheet.
Beside some plays Payton made a dot with a Sharpie. Those specifically targeted the Bucs’ man of fragrance, Pierre Desir.
On Saturday night, Siemian sat in on the weekly Dot Meeting that Payton has with his quarterbacks. That’s the meeting Payton and his coaches discuss with Winston what he likes and what he wants called in every section of the play sheet. Payton takes Winston’s input and, with a black sharpie, puts a bold dot next to the plays Winston wants to run. Usually Payton dots about 40 to 50 plays on the big laminated piece of oak tag and calls most the next day. But there’s also info about the foe that’s valuable. On this day, for instance, when singled against a Saints receiver, well-traveled Tampa Bay corner Pierre Desir would be a New Orleans target. …
Again Brady helped the Saints’ cause two minutes before halftime, throwing an interception that gave Siemian a 35-yard field to lengthen the lead. Siemian hit the speedy Tre’Quan Smith—singled by Desir—for 15 on the right sideline. With 30 seconds left, the Saints had a third-and-goal at the Tampa four-foot line. “Big third down here,” Troy Aikman said on TV. “Big.” …
The Saints were getting the second-half kickoff, and if Payton got the look he hoped for on first down, he wanted Siemian to pick on Desir.
So here it was, first play of the second half, Tampa Bay never expecting Siemian to air it out. But White split out right. Desir was on him one-on-one. No safety help.
This was gold.
And what was “gold?” Siemian’s longest play of the day, the first play of the second-half, a 38-yard pass to former Bears has-been Kevin White, going one-on-one against Pierre Desir.
And yeah, it stunk.
Again, the massive injuries finally caught up to the Bucs. You can hide practice squad dudes at corner only so long in the NFL.
It’s difficult to imagine, however, it took a never-been, fourth-string stiff quarterback to expose the stench of Desir.
Joe can’t help but read this over and over and wonder if maybe the Bucs would have been better off with a splash of Richard Sherman on the field than the scent of Pierre Desir?
November 1st, 2021 at 3:02 pm
Payton has that look……
The look that says “yeah….those Percocets just kicked in”
November 1st, 2021 at 3:11 pm
Should have payed more attention to the secondary in the off season instead of worrying so much about bring guys back on offense.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:15 pm
yes he is not good. Delaney is.
Regardless of all the penalties and early turnovers and overthrows and Dedir’s bad play….
Sean Payton made a boneheaded mistake and took a total of 16 seconds off the clock and gave the ball back to the Buccaneers and Brady with 1:41 left, plus a timeout or two.
He basically handed the game to them … and then Brady made a horrible decision on a throw and that was the ball game.
They will rest and get healthy and regroup and be absolutely fine.
What scares me is the Rams. Now they have Von Miller on the outside
November 1st, 2021 at 3:15 pm
So like every other coach knows the first thing you do is attack our secondary. Amazing!! Most of us has known that even with our regular starters in there.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:18 pm
Dean playing well
Of course their going to throw at the other side
When we get 23 24 back and back in our defensive rhythm we will be fine
November 1st, 2021 at 3:18 pm
LVMYBUCS
I’ve heard a few people say that and I don’t understand why.
They have Winfield, Whitehead, and Edwards for a deep safety group.
They have Davis, SMB, and Dean to make up 3 starting CBs.
They drafted a CB in Delaney, who has been pretty damn good.
No one expects to lose your top 4 CBs and 2 starting safeties.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:19 pm
penalties did us in more than anything.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:21 pm
But how many yards get on penalties that destroyed a Bucs chance of winning?
November 1st, 2021 at 3:25 pm
SOE- There were at least three drives that the Bucs extended with penalties. DUMB penalties at that!
November 1st, 2021 at 3:26 pm
But how many yards did Desir get on penalties that destroyed a Bucs chance of winning compared to starters?
The practice squad CB has no business playing #1 CB, but that’s how it works with injuries. I am certainly not going to single him out.
WHERE ARE YOU CARLTON?!!!!!!!!!! (crying)
November 1st, 2021 at 3:27 pm
We are depleted at CB because of injuries. We’ve been that way for weeks. So not a shocker teams go after your weakness. Everyone wants to trade, but who are you going to get that will be better AND fit under the cap?
Other teams are also not in a hurry to give up good corners. It’s not a charity. No one wants to help the Bucs get better. You’ll have to go after a CB on a bad team that is playing cheap. Good luck.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:30 pm
People talk as if the Saints out played the Bucs… yes the number of penalties were bad but it was the timing of the penalties that kept the Saints drive alive…
3 turn over helped bail out the Saints, especially the final pick 6… the game at the end was still winnable for the Bucs less than 2 minutes left…
Shouldn’t have been that close with a backup qb but I think Payton trusted Siemian’s passing more than JW so his injury may be just as to blame for the Bucs loss!
November 1st, 2021 at 3:33 pm
Should have payed more attention to the secondary in the off season instead of worrying so much about bring guys back on offense.-
Should have used their 2nd round pick on Secondary…with no apologies to Trask fans.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:35 pm
I know better then to look for Desire to be a differrnce make.
I look for Devin White to be that guy. Disappointed 8 consecutive weeks right now……..He led the way yesterday all right. Leader in pentalties and free first downs. Gagged up 3 for 45 yards. His biggest impact was a negative one.
And Im a big Devin White fan and loved the pick. But like any fan I only got so much patience. If this guy cant do nothing again next week vs the Redskins i migght gotta break out the S word.
Actually cone to think of it Desire has more game changing plays then Devin this year.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:38 pm
Yes they exposed our depleted secondary, but there is not that much difference between Siemian and Winston talent wise. I think we keep jumping on the term 4th string QB, but Siemian is equal to Winston. He was even an alternate for a pro bowl, he just turned it down.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:46 pm
Somebody please explain to me why Sean “The Genius” Payton threw three straight time with 2 minutes left…took 16 seconds off the clock and gave the ball back to Tom Brady? It ultimately worked out, but please stop with the genius stuff.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:46 pm
13 points on drives that were extended by penalties, some of which were bogus. The suh roughing was nonsense. The gholston roughing was also illegal hands to the face. The missed opi on the deep ball to white. The horse collar tackle on Winston. The questionable holding call on their last drive (same contact on Brady final int, but no call).
I can understand some of the calls, but it was lopsided on how tight the game was called. My issue with officiating is always that, when the calls are way uneven. The only call that was in bucs favor was the dpi on evans td, and that was super obvious. No other calls were made for holding, pi, roughing, etc.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:53 pm
Sean payton is no “genius”, he just got lucky last night. With all the penalties and errors that we had plus the crowd noise against us, we could have still won that game with a FG. So, no worries. A little adjustments here and there and we are back on track.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:54 pm
All the bouquets thrown at Payton…and yet he killed the clock and left 1:41 at the end. I can’t wait for game 2 in Tampa.
November 1st, 2021 at 3:55 pm
You can pick on Desir all you want, but why did Bucs no 1 pick get just 8 snaps yesterday? Cockrell only played half the defensive snaps and Adams played special teams only.
Take away the points off turnovers and penalties, Bucs’D played well enough to win- this game is on the offense and maybe a little on the coaching . And David has got to be still injured- Kamara was obviously his responsibility on the 4th down td run and he was embarrassingly wiped out of the play.
November 1st, 2021 at 4:03 pm
Soon we won’t have Pierre to kick around anymore. We can get back to bashing Richard Sherman….
November 1st, 2021 at 4:06 pm
Can someone tell me why BA let Bowles keep blitzing when it wasn’t working? Funny Payton meeting with QB’s the night before the game pointing out weaknesses. I guess similar to Brady’s Friday night meetings. My guess Saturday night BA had a meeting on how to wrestle open a box of Devil Dogs.
November 1st, 2021 at 4:10 pm
Thisisouryear!!! Says:
November 1st, 2021 at 3:38 pm
Yes they exposed our depleted secondary, but there is not that much difference between Siemian and Winston talent wise. I think we keep jumping on the term 4th string QB, but Siemian is equal to Winston. He was even an alternate for a pro bowl, he just turned it down.
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Interesting.
I didn’t know that about Siemian.
I guess now Silly Joe needs to add Pro Bowler before Trevor’s name just like he did for JayMiss (Pro Bowl ALTERNATE) Winsnone.
I mean, to be fair and all, right?
November 1st, 2021 at 4:29 pm
I do not think Saints losing Jameis helps us at all Saints will win regardless because of their defense. We have to hope for a wild card spot now.
November 1st, 2021 at 4:52 pm
In spite of everything that happened yesterday, Bucs could have won.
Plenty time left (for Brady) 1 time-out, needing to move the the ball less than 50 yards, for a game winning field goal. If not a TD.
Brady has done this, many, many times.
But, we all know the rest of the story.
November 1st, 2021 at 5:06 pm
Firethe cannons did you just wave the white flag on the division?
You are more then welcome to stay and party on the top deck of the ship but you are no longer allowed anywhere near the front of the bandwagon. You may jump in the back anytime at your own wishes. We will save you a nice seat next to Mike Johnson…..Right by the mens RestRoom.
GO BUCS
November 1st, 2021 at 5:21 pm
Sherman can’t run, Desir can’t run, COCKwell can’t run.
Jean can run.
Who didn’t get targeted yesterday?
If you’re going to sign these guys, for me, personally, I want fast guys. You’re not going to get anything close to quality for free, but at least if a guy is fast, maybe he just accidently gets in the way. But if you’re slow, you don’t really have a chance.
For example, COCKwell seems to actually have good instincts, is always close to the ball, knows what he’s doing, but he’s not fast or quick enough for any of that to matter since he’s always a half-step (well 4 steps) too slow.
Again, in fairness to Licht, you can only sign so many guys, and when you max out your cap, there’s not a lot of wiggle room. The Bucs have mostly used up their salary tricks for this year, so it’s not like there’s a ton of options to create cap room.
OJ is really the only card they have left, and if you watched Brate attempt to run block on Sunday, you know the Bucs BADLY need OJ. For all the crap people talk about OJ not being able to block, again, just go watch yesterdays film, every time I watched Brate, the guy blew right by him on the attempted block. Thankfully they didn’t have him pass blocking, because he’d get Brady killed. But maybe you make a guard a TE and they’re basically a full time blocker for the rest of the year, and you hope Gronk stays healthy. It’s a big risk though.
But if you did deal or cut OJ, that’s whatever is prorated of $6m I believe, that’s basically the last place to create cap room.
November 1st, 2021 at 5:24 pm
…..for me, personally?
Who else would it be for?
November 1st, 2021 at 6:10 pm
@DooshLaRue
Yes, Trevor Simian actually got invited to the Pro Bowl, but had to turn it down, but to be fair, there was some controversy about this invitation.
Apparently, Denver Broncos quarterback Trevor Siemian was not good enough last season to cement himself as the starter for 2017, but he was good enough to earn an invite to join the NFL’s best and brightest in Orlando.
On Monday, Siemian was invited to represent the Broncos in next Sunday’s Pro Bowl as an injury replacement. Having just had surgery on his left shoulder, he was forced to decline the invitation.
“Obviously, it was really cool and a huge honor,” Siemian told 9News. “It would have been cool to play with everyone I respect, especially our own guys who are going to be there.”
In Orlando, Siemian would have been united with six Broncos. Heading to the Pro Bowl will be Demaryius Thomas (who was just named), Emmanuel Sanders, Von Miller, Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr. and Darian Stewart.
November 1st, 2021 at 7:23 pm
The ‘stench of Desir’? That’s low even for you Joe. I’m glad most JBFers took a higher road.
November 1st, 2021 at 9:10 pm
I really don’t like this dude Sean Payton 😑
November 1st, 2021 at 11:27 pm
Dooodoooshe – …your mom.
LOL!
Get it!?! Your mom, that’s who else could be for.
I rule.
Anywho, back to the show…
November 2nd, 2021 at 6:32 am
his nickname should be “old spice”
November 2nd, 2021 at 8:45 am
either thats zoolander or sean payton been working on his blue steel face