More Dollars, More Snaps
November 18th, 2021
Salary matters.
Joe is hearing from many fans stomping their feet wanting Bucs first-round pick Joe Tryon-Shoyinka on the field more, especially on passing downs.
The ultimate warrior, Jason Pierre-Paul, is not himself. He’s playing with a torn rotator cuff, broken fingers and half a hand. As much as every Bucs fan loves JPP’s heart, they want results more and believe JTS can give the Bucs’ pass rush a boost while saving wear and tear on JPP.
Bucs outside linebackers coach Larry Foote was asked yesterday about balancing snaps. One reason Foote gave for JTS being a mere spectator in some games is his paycheck. Or more importantly, JPP’s paycheck.
“You have to start with the paychecks first,” Foote said, partially in jest. “The guys with the biggest paychecks play the most.”
Just for some background, JPP’s salary, per Spotrac.com, is $12.8 million for 2021. JTS’s salary is $2 million.
Foote is not down on JTS, not at all. Foote even noted JTS played just fine earlier in the season when JPP couldn’t. But as long as JPP can get on the field, Foote is riding with the veteran with a lot of zeros in his salary.
“It is going to pay off in the long haul for his career,” Foote said of JTS. “I’m quite sure for half the teams in the league he would be a starter. But he has to wait his turn like a lot of guys.”
Then Foote joked, “His fault for being drafted 32 and not top-five or top-10.”
“I’m happy with [JTS’s] play,” Foote said.
Now this is where you have to use logic and common sense and not let yourself get clouded by emotion. Joe is not suggesting Foote is doing a bad job. Hardly.
Foote has to judge whether JPP playing less than 100 percent is better than JTS playing at 100 percent. Joe is convinced a major reason why JPP is playing more despite being injured is his ability to stop the run, which we must remember is Priority No. 1 for Bucs defensive coordinator Todd Bowles.
November 18th, 2021 at 11:33 am
Shut down JPP for the year. Playing as hurt as he is is either admirable or foolish.
I lean toward the latter.
November 18th, 2021 at 11:33 am
Few times i heard more nonsense than this.
November 18th, 2021 at 11:34 am
I was talking about Foote’s words…
November 18th, 2021 at 11:34 am
Rubish!!! Best men in….Not biggest check in….Nothing against JPP, and I agree he has to be in the field even with an injurie, but for other reasons than a check
November 18th, 2021 at 11:35 am
Coaches have no urgency just like the players. Good luck finding a job when this whole organization is disassembled in 2 months.
November 18th, 2021 at 11:52 am
This may be the dumbest thing I’ve read during the BA era.
The Lakers didn’t sit Kobe behind Rick Fox because Fox was making more $$$.
November 18th, 2021 at 11:52 am
Larry Foote … “The guys with the biggest paychecks play the most.”
Coach should’ve been fired right on the spot for making such a dumb statement. The objective is to WIN, everything else is rubbish. It’s not up to the coaches to justify what our GM paid any particular player, and that’s pretty much what his remark amounted to.
JPP is an awesome player IMO & we need him big-time. But there’s no excuse for allowing him to play 75-80% of the snaps with his injuries (plural).
November 18th, 2021 at 11:54 am
Foote has to make a business decision. Not personal.
Playing jpp with one arm and 4 fingers is not right.
November 18th, 2021 at 11:54 am
I call BS. JPP needs the rest. Let JTS play unless he proves he can’t hang with the big dogs. JTS needs the experience and JPP needs the rest.
November 18th, 2021 at 11:55 am
Wheres rojo ?
November 18th, 2021 at 11:58 am
That is the most terrifying comment I have ever heard a coach publicly make.
JPP should be shut down and rested for the playoffs. Put him on IR and let Tryon and Anthony Nelson take all the snaps. Nelson is much improved as well.
We stand no chance at winning a Super Bowl if snaps are not based off production. JPP is not getting the job done. Teams are even starting to run the ball on us better.
November 18th, 2021 at 11:59 am
What the hell is that??? Largest paycheck when you’re playing like sh!t??? Idiotic. Need to start JTS because JPP and his paycheck won’t be here next year.
November 18th, 2021 at 12:12 pm
Foote just made the case for cutting JPP loose.
November 18th, 2021 at 12:15 pm
What an idiot he thing for a coach to say. This coaching staff is way overrated
November 18th, 2021 at 12:29 pm
The dude was cutting up. Give it a rest. This isn’t courtroom testimony.
November 18th, 2021 at 12:41 pm
JPP is hurt, but JPP at 60% is better than JTS at 100%. Look at the number of tackles where JTS let’s his man go. My guess is that JPP would have been a great DT if the rotator cuff weren’t so bad.
November 18th, 2021 at 12:43 pm
He makes about 60 percent less than Playoff Lenny. 🙂
November 18th, 2021 at 12:52 pm
Apparently way too much “ cutting up” around One Buc..
November 18th, 2021 at 1:02 pm
Kind of dumb to say but, you’d be naïve to think this doesn’t exist. Consider contract bonuses for playing time in addition to the fact that you know JPP isn’t going to WANT to sit.
November 18th, 2021 at 1:31 pm
Absolutely and in many cases, it’s a fair question. You don’t think if (pick an expensive Bucs player) was getting less snaps than someone making 1/8 the expensive player’s salary, that Team Glazer wouldn’t ask Jason Licht, “Why am I paying (expensive player) this kind of money if the cheaper guy is playing better?”
November 18th, 2021 at 1:31 pm
It’s a business boy. To think otherwise is foolish. Thanks for the honesty, Coach Foote.
November 18th, 2021 at 1:41 pm
Thanks for you honesty about how Bucs coaches think of their game day line-up.
So, if you did good or great in practice and keeps beating a highly priced player, there is still no way for you to be playing in game day. BA’s mindset, pathetic
November 18th, 2021 at 2:04 pm
Uh, that doesn’t sound right.
November 18th, 2021 at 2:04 pm
Joe if I were the Glazers I’d certainly ask why we’re paying Sherman to sit on I.R.. He was brought in because our other DB’s are on I.R., doesn’t make sense to me. As far as JPP, it should be obvious to all in the organization he’s done, and that 12.5 million is his golden parachute. O.K. so what they paid him. Now he’s hurt, ineffective, and it’s time for youth to be served. JPP would also be better off if he split reps with Tryon. That is if his ego let’s him. Sit JPP, you’re hurting your team more than helping.
November 18th, 2021 at 2:10 pm
The Glazers already know why: He’s hurt.
November 18th, 2021 at 2:43 pm
I hope he’s joking, if not Foote’s an idiot. It’s the performance that counts, the salary is a freaking sunk cost.
November 18th, 2021 at 4:02 pm
If he was joking, it wasn’t funny.
If he was serious and honest, then good, expose to the world your losing formula that rewards high paid underperformance.
Another of many fires that Mr. BA had better address ASAP.
November 18th, 2021 at 5:30 pm
I’m pretty the coaches are with these guys more than any fan or media. They kinda know them personally. Probably Tryon is just not ready to take JPP responsibility in a already below average defense. Tryon angles are way off and he’s over pursing himself out of plays.
November 18th, 2021 at 7:34 pm
am I the only one who was thinking when he gets as good as J.P.P and makes his pay?
November 18th, 2021 at 7:36 pm
you have to earn those dollars
November 18th, 2021 at 8:16 pm
Rather JPP make 12 million coming in and out healthy and adding to the team, than paying him 12 million hurt on the bench.
November 18th, 2021 at 8:18 pm
Doesn’t matter what they make, if they end up getting hurt from misuse. I’d rather keep him healthy, and give our great rookie more in game experience
November 18th, 2021 at 9:16 pm
JPP will make $12 million regardless, whether he sits on the bench or plays. It’s called a sunk cost, the Bucs pay him regardless of the number of snaps.
Play the more effective of the two players.
Ask any finance guy with an IQ above 80, he or she will tell you that basing a business decision on sinks costs is idiotic.
November 18th, 2021 at 9:16 pm
God I hate auto-correct. Sunk costs.