Joe Tryon-Shoyinka’s Slow Rise
October 18th, 2021
Plenty of snaps, says Bucs coach.
There is a lot to like about Bucs rookie outside linebacker Joe Tryon-Shoyinka. He’s shown enough to Joe that he could be a force in the future.
The future, however, is not the present. And as long as veteran Jason Pierre-Paul is active, don’t expect JTS to get a boatload of snaps.
When Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians spoke the day after the Bucs beat the Eagles, Arians made it clear he likes JTS, but he likes JPP as much and more.
“He’s playing plenty,” Arians said of JTS. “He had 20 snaps [Thursday]. JPP has got a bigger résumé, and a better one. Joe just keeps growing as a player. He played well [Thursday], he had 20 opportunities.”
And despite JTS showing a quick burst to get after quarterbacks, Arians noted that alone is not reason enough to give him more snaps — and JPP fewer.
“Jason’s pretty strong, and there’s a lot more than just rushing the passer,” Arians said.
So for right not it seems JTS is mostly (not totally) a pass rushing specialist.
The way JTS gets after quarterbacks, Joe is OK with this. And how can you argue that the spirit of the defense, a warrior like JPP, should get fewer snaps? Nah, man.
October 18th, 2021 at 2:10 pm
Can he learn to play corner? He’s pretty quick
October 18th, 2021 at 2:13 pm
JPP still the better player. Hoping for a day when JTS takes over for JPP based upon merit.
Has JTS looked good against the run in either the exhibition or real games yet?
October 18th, 2021 at 2:17 pm
He looks quick and very athletic and will tune in to rushing the QB well.
doesn’t look to have the size and/or technique just yet to stand up an OT and wait to get the runner.
October 18th, 2021 at 2:37 pm
Isn’t rushing the passer the entire point of that position?
Once again probably just coach speak.
Also Geno we didn’t get a chance to watch him defend the run because teams very rarely run on us.
October 18th, 2021 at 2:41 pm
I like the slow approach and then maybe give him more snaps at the end the season in order to give JPP some rest for the playoffs.
October 18th, 2021 at 2:42 pm
i kinda enjoyed when they subbed him in for minter on passing downs. with no david in there might as well use him
October 18th, 2021 at 2:48 pm
Having him on the outside at the 2nd level completely shut down Hurts from rushing to his side. That could be useful down the road.
October 18th, 2021 at 3:25 pm
Great back up for now.
October 18th, 2021 at 3:36 pm
Hearing too many people brushibg off JPP. I think they just want the next best thing and its probably a be carful what you wish for situation.
JPP has literally made a career prooving people wrong. Im not betting against him.
October 18th, 2021 at 4:10 pm
BA’s feeding you and JPP a BS line.
JPP was a liability during pivotal plays. JPP needs a breather so he can play better when it matters most. The coaching staff needs a little time to sell JPP on the strategy.
JTS will play more in the next game.
October 18th, 2021 at 5:17 pm
Stick a fork in JPP, he’s done. He’s not going to get healthier as the season moves along, he’s going to get more injured. Hard to heal yourself up playing football. At his age, you get worse, not better. Father time is still champ, and right now he’s beaten the crap out of JPP.
October 18th, 2021 at 6:00 pm
I’m just glad he looks better than Noah, if bucs missed on this pass rusher I’d promise you we’re cursed
Thinking of Gaines, Clayborn, bowers, and Spence
October 18th, 2021 at 7:08 pm
Well, you can argue he should get fewer snaps b/c he’s clearly not healthy yet.
He’s looked a step slow, missing tackles left and right, etc. Obviously JPP is the better player when fully healthy, but he’s not, so…..
October 18th, 2021 at 8:50 pm
Gotta remember that Tryon sat out last year. He might have stayed in shape, but football shape is a different animal. Then there is the mental part of the game, that is not a normal thought process either.
Maybe BA is using JPP to spell Tryon, until he is physically able to play the rest of the season. He will be the starter next year.
October 18th, 2021 at 10:49 pm
He is what he looks like. A rookie who is tall and fast but not very physical. Not a domineering impact player yet. Needs to hit the weights and beef up. He tries hard but is more of a dancer than an effective defender. Sadly JPP may not be the player he was. I am not convinced Tryon will ever be the next JPP.
October 18th, 2021 at 10:54 pm
I have no problem with that. Ease him in.
He’s working in there giving JPP and Shaq a rest now and then and he is showing some great quickness.
He definitely looks like a star in the future to me
October 19th, 2021 at 5:39 am
Would’ve rather trade down for JOK or Asante Samuel Jr. Even Christian Barmore would make our pass rush more effective by eating the OL with Vita