Cannot Get Worked Up Over The Secondary
October 10th, 2021
Freakout over Bucs corners.
Why do some Bucs fans think the Bucs have shutdown corners all of a sudden?
Joe was getting bombed on Twitter and by text with people downright hysterical that the Bucs corners cannot cover.
Why would anyone expect them to? Hello?
Maybe people are not aware, but the Bucs’ secondary was getting roasted by Dak Prescott and the Cowboys when the defensive backs were healthy in Week 1.
The injuries became so bad that the Bucs lost their top-three corners and had to turn to unemployed dudes on the street in late September.
Name any team that loses its top three corners and doesn’t suffer on defense? That’s just unreasonable to think they won’t.
Any cornerbacks who have a shred of coverage capability and are healthy are not unemployed in mid-September, like the current Bucs corners were.
Corners are hard to come by. So anyone remotely decent will be under contract unless they have so much baggage they would give Santa Claus a bad back and his reindeer hernias.
Why expect dudes who cannot cover to be the next coming of Darrelle Revis overnight?
Joe is not saying this is a goal. Not in any way. The play has been unacceptable, but what are the Bucs to do when they don’t have cash to acquire a top-shelf corner?
Maybe it is just Joe, but Joe cannot be unreasonable and expect dudes walking the street to be the next Deion Sanders in 10 days. If anything it would be a pleasant surprise.
Thank goodness the Bucs have an offense able to outscore other teams in shootouts.
Please get well quick, Carlton Davis and Sean Murphy-Bunting.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:15 pm
Wow, just looked at my FF team and I had Brady, AB and Derrick Henry starting. I did not even score last week what those 3 combined for today. Bucs win big and that FF nonsense was just gravy.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:15 pm
Why light has not drafted 6 all pro corners is beyond me. #firelight
October 10th, 2021 at 5:17 pm
I don’t expect them to be the 85 Bears…..
But be in position to make a play….. ONCE. That should happen by accident.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:20 pm
Who would have thought that we’d be defending a SB championship and talking about the gold ole days of Ryan Smith and Chris Conte.
Just kidding, I don’t care how bad we are, I will always hate those two more than anyone else in Bucs history.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:20 pm
Not sweating it either till past the bye week. I’ve said if these guys go down at some point and return healthy, it’s sooner better than later.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:36 pm
I don’t think our D problems are so much with the players as with the coaching schemes utilized. The opposition seems to know the D strategy on each play before the snap. Don’t know the answer but our defense is no longer (if it ever was) vaunted. Hope some coaches can figure it out or we may not make it back to the SB no matter how good Brady and the O are.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:36 pm
Team is 4-1 with a skeleton crew for DB’s. Are we to expect when all get healthy Bucs will instantly the playoff D of last season? Bucs DB’s are average at best when healthy but any little bit helps. 30+ points a game are high expectations, Bowles better get creative quick or Bucs may not be so lucky next 19-17 game.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:40 pm
A strong pass rush can help a banged up secondary. It did today.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:42 pm
Fans were hysterical? Now thats funny…….We just blew out the Dolphins and fans are losing thier minds.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:42 pm
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: It’s a blessing in disguise these CB injuries happened early in the season, and none have been season-ending. Be patient my friends, this defense will (should?) round into form about playoffs time. Gotta have hope and faith! GO BUCS!
October 10th, 2021 at 5:45 pm
Joe says:
Maybe people are not aware, but the Bucs’ secondary was getting roasted by Dak Prescott and the Cowboys when the defensive backs were healthy in Week 1.
truth bomb!
when at their best–they are a liability
October 10th, 2021 at 5:47 pm
Rod Munch is obviously forgetting the great Myron Lewis and Sabby Piscatelli.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:47 pm
Just have these DBs hold down the fort til we get healthy. If we dint have any season ending injuries we are primed to peak at the exact time you wanna be peaking.
In the meantime let these teams set back to throw 60+ times against us. Our passrush os really starting to heat up and they gonna force mistakes while bruising the QB.
October 10th, 2021 at 5:49 pm
D-Rok,
Absolute genius.
No one has ever gotten injured twice in the same season have they?
October 10th, 2021 at 5:52 pm
JimmyJack Says:
October 10th, 2021 at 5:42 pm
Fans were hysterical? Now thats funny…….We just blew out the Dolphins and fans are losing thier minds.
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Take that with a grain of salt and consider the source.
Joe also claims to throw various items at his TV and I highly doubt that’s the case.
Hyperbole anyone?
October 10th, 2021 at 6:01 pm
Doosh,
2 significant injuries to a player in the NFL in one season is not very common. 2 injuries to a whole secondary in a season? I’m sure Joe has stats, but my gut feeling is that it’s extremely rare. Hopefully we got the injury bug out of the way early in the season, leading to my hope we will be healthy come playoff time. RIGHT?
October 10th, 2021 at 6:05 pm
Erstwhile, Doosh, somehow we have a 4-1 record despite significant injuries. Sure, we got torched, but not on the win column. I am optimistic. GO BUCS!
October 10th, 2021 at 6:15 pm
Love what the offense did today, especially controlling the TOP for a tad over 37 minutes. That’s HUGE to a defense that’s obviously struggling.
Our beaten-up defense only allowed 17 points (BA must be happy), but they looked terribly sloppy much of the time in doing so. It’s starting to look like their whole pass coverage concept is to let the other team catch the ball, THEN tackle them. And speaking of tackling, today was the worst I can remember seeing a Bucs’ team tackle. Far too many plays went for extra yardage because Bucs’ defenders simply weren’t wrapping up & making tackles.
It’s great to be 4-1 but I hope folks are keeping an eye on the prize: the playoffs & another Super Bowl championship. We sold our souls to bring everyone back & go full-speed-ahead for another SB win. Right now our offense is up to the task, but with this defense we won’t get past Round 1 of the playoffs.
October 10th, 2021 at 6:19 pm
Erstwhile, Dooosh….
I like that.
Go Bucs!
October 10th, 2021 at 6:24 pm
17 points 2 games in a row…..wow, if we keep doing that, we’ll win a bunch of games…..
I don’t care if we look sloppy in the process…
October 10th, 2021 at 6:38 pm
Hey Joe, I understand everything you just said and you have a point that Bucs fans shouldn’t expect complete shut down corners who are coming off the bench. The issue is the continuing stubborn SCHEME. I mentioned to you earlier today good coaches not only rely on schemes you also have to rely on the players to implement them and also size up the competition. The Dolphins have no above average receivers and the purpose of jammin is to not completely shut down a receiver but to disrupt the timing so the QB can panic. I think our pass rush would be more effective if we did that and besides why not try something once if it doesn’t work ok but at least try it when playing mediocre offenses, hopefully the offense can continue to improve and become a juggernaut.
October 10th, 2021 at 6:42 pm
I hear ya TBBF, and I think we will win a bunch of games based on our schedule. But teams like the Falcons, Patriots & Dolphins most likely won’t be the quality of teams we’ll face in the playoffs.
This defense just isn’t clicking like it did last year for some reason. For instance, I focused on JPP today on a number of plays & he just didn’t look like the same JPP who’d become the heartbeat of that DLine IMO. And he’s not the only one in that category. Something’s just not clicking.
October 10th, 2021 at 6:53 pm
For their situation I really don’t think they played bad!! Dean had a few catches on him today but got a pick had 5 tackles (1 for a loss) and 2 passes defended!! Not a horrible day… Sherman will be ok in another week or 2 and once you get back Davis (who I think is a top 8 cb in the league) then I think they’ll be doing ok! … And they didn’t have Winfield … I’m not ready to give up on the secondary just yet the cowboys have thrown on EVERYONE and they are keeping games in range and are starting to get the turn overs … And they’re not horrible in the RedZone… I don’t care how many yards a team has on them they only allowed 17 points with 5 of their starters hurt and a few playing banged up
October 10th, 2021 at 7:24 pm
Didn’t the panthers just acquire Gilmore for a 6th? No way you’re telling me any of our corners are better than him even if we had to give up a 5th they should’ve done it.
October 10th, 2021 at 7:25 pm
Dean was 3-4 yards away from the receiver and that’s why he got the tipped pick.
I’ll take it but it wasn’t like he created it.
October 10th, 2021 at 8:26 pm
Just keep them receivers in front of you and come up and make the tackle. Force teams to be patient and get after the QB. And we can’t be dropping INT’s. With the way our offense is scoring, the defense only needs a couple of stops a game. Gotta keep treading water until we get healthy again.
October 10th, 2021 at 9:07 pm
The secondary is going to be tested by Philadelphia. However the secondary is going to get better each week. If the front four and the linebackers can not just put pressure on the quarterback but get to him as well then that takes a lot of pressure off of the defensive backs. Things are going to change soon and the seçondary is going to get to know each other better and that will help. If we get another guy back this week then that is great. The offence should be able to score a lot Thursday. Tom Brady knows just what the offence needs to do while the secondary is trying to get well. Go Bucs.
October 10th, 2021 at 9:50 pm
Coulda swore I saw Sabby Piscatelli out there today.
October 10th, 2021 at 10:43 pm
The injuries this early in the season, while still winning, is going to be beneficial towards the end of the season when they are healthy and have tremendous depth and experience.
Carlton Davis and SMB are both pretty damn good.
Dean has played much better since the first game he started.
Sherman – I don’t expect to really be in game shape for a couple more weeks.
I have no problem with the secondary except whitehead and Winfield still let some guys get over top of them when they should not.
That said, at this point in the season it seems obvious to me they need to draft a CB, another D lineman (simply because of age), and probably a running back since it looks like Jones will be gone
October 10th, 2021 at 10:47 pm
Every team is throwing short passes and move yardage steadily down field.
October 11th, 2021 at 12:09 am
heyitsadam Says:
October 10th, 2021 at 5:17 pm
I don’t expect them to be the 85 Bears
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85 Bears CBs were garbage. Leslie Frazier and Michael Richardson. They were exposed by the Dolphins on Monday night. What made them special was the pass rush. That’s what we need too.
October 11th, 2021 at 12:45 am
All this bashing of our d-backs makes no sense. You can’t stop everything. We take away the run, we take away the deep pass, what’s left for teams to do? Intermediate and short passes so that’s what they do. We got them where we want them. It’s tough to work down the field that way. Mistakes are made creating turnovers and you always get some drops. It works. No defense in the NFL stops everything these days.
October 11th, 2021 at 10:06 am
Not gonna get too crazy about the secondary considering the situation and but the tackling needs to get alot better it’s still awful
October 11th, 2021 at 6:00 pm
@Rod-
EJ Biggers was worse than either of those 2
October 12th, 2021 at 11:38 am
why someone has not taught the BUCKS how take is a complete mystery to me..Probably the most failed defensive contacts anywhere . Not to mention their totally inept coverage. They need a defensive coach.