Donald Penn: Jon Gruden Is Not A Racist
October 14th, 2021
So many ex-Bucs have chimed in on Jon Gruden’s NFL demise for all kinds of offensive language in his private emails to then Redskins executive Bruce Allen. But perhaps none know Gruden better than former Bucs left tackle Donald Penn.
Penn played for Chucky with the Bucs and then with the Raiders in 2018. Joe’s confident he’s the only guy to have that distinction.
Penn, 38, a friend of Joe and one of the great straight-talkers in Bucs history, joined SiriusXM NFL Radio today and shared his stunned disbelief at what his good friend Chucky did.
He described being close with Chucky since 2007.
“I know the racist part is not him,” Penn said multiple times, insisting Chucky is not racist in any way though he can’t speak to Chucky’s slurs about other groups.
“Hurting and disappointed” is how Penn described himself and others who know Chucky. Penn said he’s talked to former Bucs and current and former Raiders and insisted “we’re all shocked.”
Penn agreed that Chucky should have lost his job immediately and Penn is sure Chucky will “try to do everything to rectify this.”
Essentially, Penn said Chucky’s deep love of football makes his punishment extraordinary, and he’s confident Chucky will do whatever he can to atone for his sins. Penn also said he will be offering his support and continued love to Chucky.
As for former Bucs special teams coach Rich Bisaccia taking over the Raiders’ head coaching job, Penn said Bisaccia is by far the best guy for the job. “One thing about him, players respect him.”
October 14th, 2021 at 8:38 am
And the confusion continues. Whether Chucky is a racist or not is a side issue. It was the language in his emails that is unacceptable.
What confusion?? These are Donald Penn’s thoughts, a longtime Buccaneer who was in the rare position of playing for Chucky in Oakland. Joe doesn’t think a lot of people are confused why Chucky resigned. Penn thought he should have been fired before Sunday’s game.–Joe
The Bucs are a private enterprise, part of a franchise (NFL). Both can do what they please, but they also face consequences for their actions. Most of the revenue for the NFL is generated from advertisers who in turn sell products to the general public. If the Bucs or NFL tacitly accept Gruden’s slurs, people will boycott the product (viewership) and the products of the advertising sponsors. If you don’t accept that concept, fine, then you do not understand the nature of free enterprise.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:43 am
Interesting to see Donald Penn ‘s take. It is clearly different than Derrick Brook’s.
Derrick Brooks clearly indicated that Gruden’s actions were inappropriate, wrong and words cannot come to his mouth regarding what Jon Gruden did. Derrick Brooks also upset that people in Tampa made a joke about what Gruden did.
I clearly think Derrick was being a straight shooter yesterday.
Both Penn and Brooks talked about Gruden’s future actions.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:54 am
@Joe
The confusion is within the comment sections on this site, and this article fans that sentiment. Gruden was not being ostracized for treating others as a racist, it was for the language he used in his emails.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:54 am
PassingThrough is 100% correct, it’s all about the Benjamins from advertisers. He stays they go. What we are not hearing is in these emails how many white men he called a holes, c$#ksu#$kers, etc. Those will never come out, It’s all about the media getting their rocks off causing chaos between minorities and the majority. Congrats, another narrative to enhance separation.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:56 am
Lets take a look at every owner, player and NFL execs, emails since 2011.And lets not forget the hypocritical media. I guarantee if you want to destroy someone personally, you will be successful.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:58 am
That Rich Bisaccia finally gets his chance at a head coaching position is good, but I agree with Donald Penn.
Still, I don’t see what Jon Gruden can do to “atone” for his Sins.
I think he is finished as a coach, or even as an Analyst in the NFL.
He has enough money to live in luxury the rest of his life.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:59 am
Easy to condemn others publicly, but it draws into question the sincerity or motivation. I think highly of Derrick Brooks. I would have preferred he not commented. I don’t recall him publicly condemning Sapp, whose actions with the prostitutes was worse. Maybe DB did.
I will say this, and you all can act all high and mighty, but there’s very few people who have not privately said racist, ageist, misogynistic, misandrist, anti-gay, anti-Asian, anti-Muslim or anti-fill in the blank. Gruden never said any of this publicly.
Let’s just release every team’s emails. All of them. Let’s see if the NFL can field a team or front office. Phony outrage is hilarious.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:06 am
Gruden will be back. Why? Money changes everything. Green is the only color that matters. Why do you all think the NFL has all of this phony outrage and this phony BLM affection?
Why does Netflix let Dave Chappelle do a special that is 1,000 times more blunt than the “worst” e-mail by Jon Gruden? Money. Money. Money.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:08 am
No Donald you didn’t know Gruden. Did any of us? Only God knows what he thought of you behind your back. People want to believe him, can’t believe he could be this way. Believe it. The only person who truely knows Gruden is Allen, and he ain’t talking. Gruden is that kind of raciest. Never would have the nuts to say what he did to Smith’s face, but behind his back, let the hate spew. That’s the problem here, hate. Gruden didn’t just make a mistake with a bad comment, he spewed hate over a seven year period. He’s getting what he deserves.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:09 am
Gruden won’t be able to get a job at Walmart and I’m sure Jerry Jones is a saint, we all know Robert Kraft isn’t.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:13 am
Is it possible for someone to say something racist without being a true racist?
What is a racist? It seems that everyone has a different opinion on this question.
I’m not sticking up for Gruden. Nor am I condoning what he did. It was extremely stupid and what he typed in that email was certainly racist.
But does Gruden have hate in his heart towards all black people? I find that hard to believe.
I would like to see the rest of the offensive emails. It might shed a little more light onto this situation…
October 14th, 2021 at 9:15 am
Mod, Chappelle like other comedians, and rappers make a living saying, and singing provocative things. Comparing what they do to what Gruden did is a totally different thing. Because a black person uses the N word doesn’t mean you can. How do you not see the difference? Chappelle has the nads to say it out loud to a crowd to get a reaction, and hopefully a laugh even if it isn’t funny. Gruden passes messages in the dark to his pal Allen.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:15 am
Hoda, do you think Gruden was writing about you or someone he had a beef with. Jeez lighten up, do you take what everyone says to others personal? I repeat I do NOT condone what he said but he said it specifically about individuals NOT an entire race. Plus you go right to the Smith comment and you overlook those also discussed by other comments he made.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:19 am
I agree that Gruden *can* be back if there is money to be made by someone. Michael Vick killed dogs. Ray Lewis was involved in a murder. Richard Sherman was arrested for driving drunk, Richie Incognito is *STILL* in the NFL after sending threatening and racially charged text messages.
He’ll come back from this because people in decision making positions don’t care about the snowflakes out there. He’ll be back. He loves football more than anything and he’s got a heck of a personality. There’s money to be made from that and someone will pay eventually. Gruden was the best thing to happen to that MNF booth is years and it has sucked since he left.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:21 am
So now the Black community is allowed to use the N word but Whites cannot. Hoda, from now on you are no longer allowed to say Honkey, Cracker & Snowflake. Seriously it’s comments like that which promotes separation. You don’t want unity you just want to rule the roost. I am sad for you and those that agree with you.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:26 am
I don’t think making a racist remark necessarily makes you a racist…..it’s what’s in your heart and only the individual can know that.
Depending on how low the bar is set…..if making a racist remark makes you a racist….there are a great deal of racists out there….
October 14th, 2021 at 9:33 am
@Marine, 100% agree with what you said. And I will add, I read people by their actions, not their words. That is not to say Chucky’s words are excusable, they are NOT. He is clearly paying the price in a big way, and deservedly so.
@Hoda, Im sure you have never said anything behind one’s back too, right? How self-righteous of you.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:40 am
Here’s a question……If you think racist thoughts but don’t say them, are you a racist?
Jon Gruden’s punishment was primarily for being stupid…..when you have a lot to lose, you never put highly negative comments in writing….and, the mic is always on.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:47 am
We’re all racist to some degree, and if you disagree you are MOST likely worst than the rest and in denial.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:59 am
I am done with this rhetoric. Haters are going to hate, so let the media and politicians we rely on to be our voices, who now obviously believe in self interest over community care whip up a big batch of Kool-aid to fuel the fire of ALL the haters who will drink it in gallons.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:07 am
@Marine Buc
What you typed is exactly where my head was this morning and I wholeheartedly agree with you.
For those implying that Gruden (or any other human on earth for that matter) are irredeemable for using the language he did and treating woman like pokemon cards, what incentive would he have to better himself if no one would be willing to forgive him? People f up man and not that Gruden gives a damn, but I would personally see him in a whole new light if he did his best to make amends.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:14 am
Just tell Jon Gruden that he identifies as Hunter Biden and the media will just ignore his emails. Case close!
October 14th, 2021 at 10:20 am
No joke, my mother told me several times as a kid – “Son, no one likes an a**hole”.
Words to live by.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:22 am
I have a nice tweet reply from Penn that I saved if you want to ruin his credibility. He likes to talk like Gruden.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:25 am
Hodad, I call BS. No, block people have no more right to use the N word than white people. That’s racist to even suggest they do. Also, just because someone calls themself a comedian, they get a pass? BS again. You, sir, are part of the problem. Your phony pious attitude and your phone outrage are BS.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:27 am
Again, none of us are completely free of bigotry. We simply are not.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:28 am
Like my wife said to me this morning Gruden is a scapegoat. This country has got soft when they are butt hurt over comments made 10 years ago in a private email. How many executives in this country have said the same thing and just haven’t been caught. Not saying Gruden actions were right but what does it say when the NFL throws him out the league and then hires Eminem and DR Dre to do a halftime show after they have made a living saying worse in there lyrics.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:30 am
TBBF..if you’re white walking through an all black neighborhood at night and get scared. Does that make you a racist?
October 14th, 2021 at 10:39 am
Buc1987
It make you careless…..
October 14th, 2021 at 10:40 am
I think if we could look at Derrick Brooks emails from 10 years ago we would find some things he said that some of us would find offensive. I also think if we all looked at each other’s emails, we would all find something each of us said at some point in the past that was offensive to some of us. The consternation and hand-wringing by those in the media is as hypocritical and self-serving as it is comical.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:44 am
@163doubleplay
Just tell Jon Gruden that he identifies as Hunter Biden and the media will just ignore his emails. Case close!
ROFL
October 14th, 2021 at 10:46 am
First off – sports are meant to bring people together, and it can be healthy to hear each others thoughts on sensitive issues with this. The only caveat to that is that in order to truly listen to each other, our desire to learn must be greater than our desire to be right. With that said, here are my humble thoughts…
@Buc1987
If the only reason that you are scared walking around a black neighborhood at night is because only black people live there, then yes you have a racist tendency.
If you are scared walking at night in general, then that has nothing to do with race.
If you are scared walking through a low socio-economic neighborhood at night, regardless of what race(s) of people live there, then no that has nothing to do with race.
#GOBUCS
October 14th, 2021 at 10:46 am
I sincerely appreciate Penn’s views here. Brooks’ too. They both (along with all of Gruden’s former players) have far deeper insight into the man than I do. I admit that I was very quick to react—after all Gruden’s words were simply vile and the dialogue with Allen fit a pattern of outright narcissistic and boorish behavior that sparked the NFL’s review of the WFT in the first place. I still believe we all have to own up to what we say, regardless of how or when we say it. I think another part of the trouble here was that Gruden appeared indignant vs contrite when first confronted with the email regarding D. Smith.
There’s a lot more to this story, clearly. 650,000 emails, in fact. It’s difficult to believe Allen was only a moron when communicating with Gruden.
October 14th, 2021 at 11:04 am
It would be a waste of time for me to try and speculate on what type of character Jon Gruden has and at the end of the day and quite frankly it doesn’t matter what I think of him personally. I’m sure he wouldn’t lose any slerp. He messed up, it was a terrible look in the public eye, so he was forced to step down. If he can learn something from it great.
October 14th, 2021 at 11:05 am
@Listnfrmafar
I dare bet that Jerry Joe’s end up hiring him…Lol
October 14th, 2021 at 11:09 am
I lean toward agreeing with Derek Carr:
Wanna bet there is a mad scramble across the Woke SportsBallPuck Leagues to delete personal and business emails, even as I post?
October 14th, 2021 at 11:27 am
For those that mostly live in this new flapping lips BS without actions to back up the talk zone. Donald said this…. he’s confident Chucky will do whatever he can to atone for his sins. That is what I’ve been saying,… he needs to atone for what he said ..repent… and then be forgiven. The age old formula.
October 14th, 2021 at 11:28 am
I think a great portion of the US over 95% of all different groups of races and ethnic groups are NOT racist at all. I think there are tons of ignorant people walking around of all races and being ignorant is due to lack of experiences and education. I call Devin White a redneck not a hillbilly, maybe that is derogatory towards people from the country, I have friends that will call me a redneck just due to tobacco, fishing country music and southern crap, does all of that make me racist? NO…but the left agenda in America has framed me as a racist due to all that, which brings me back to devin white, you tell the average CNN reporter/consumer, without ever showing a picture of D White, that this dude is from north LA near Arkansas & Texas border and he likes farm life, slow southern living, fishing and horses and sports…the average ignorant person would label him a redneck racist without learning about 45…the mainstream media including BSPN is destroying America
October 14th, 2021 at 11:31 am
Listnfrmafar … I’m pretty sure Walmart would hire John.
October 14th, 2021 at 11:32 am
Anyone that doesn’t think their internet actions and posts aren’t tracked somehow, is just fooling themselves. Even our forefathers knew that when you put it in writing, it might be out there for the world to see. And for those that might need some business instruction in that area… try to take criticisms or reprimands verbally and keep them low key, if you can… and put your achievements and accomplishments in writing.
October 14th, 2021 at 11:33 am
I feel like Jed Clampett w/o any money.
October 14th, 2021 at 11:38 am
Dusthty.,.. I don’t think racism isn’t something you often see in jest or conversations…in fact it is often “laughed off”. Racism is about actions, and how one treats someone else…often in the most stressful situations. Who gets the house…who gets the raise…who get’s the promotion….who dates your daughter. It isn’t as simple as buddies calling others names or not. Certainly we meet people and have preconceived notions based upon our life’s experiences… race, religion, sex, dress, and such. But racism is where you treat someone as lesser, or don’t give them the opportunities you would give someone just like you.
October 14th, 2021 at 11:43 am
Well said @mark2001
October 14th, 2021 at 11:53 am
What is being missed by most media outlets and fans is that this was a investigation into a toxic work environment with the then Washington Redskins.
And the only thing to come out is that John Gruden used a racist troupe and he wanted to get it on with one of the Glazers.
Bring the big guys down too
October 14th, 2021 at 11:56 am
Gruden will be back next year. Either with the raiders or jaguars.
October 14th, 2021 at 12:01 pm
Happiest man in America, Urb Myers!
October 14th, 2021 at 12:08 pm
@Dusthty Rhothdes
Well said!
October 14th, 2021 at 12:09 pm
Is it feasible that Chucky is just a vulgar A-hole and DeMaurice Smith is dumb with unusually big lips? Nothing more than that.
October 14th, 2021 at 12:14 pm
Gruden forever….. we should hire him as our o coordinator
October 14th, 2021 at 12:26 pm
He doesn’t even have a winning record career wise, who cares about jon CANCELED gruden lol
GoBucs!
October 14th, 2021 at 12:30 pm
Certainly is a different standard…..coaches vs players……as it should be….but still…..I think the punishment is sometimes disproportionate. The problem with Gruden is that he touched all the bases with negative comments…..if it were simply isolated to one…..he may have survived it.
October 14th, 2021 at 12:31 pm
If we can focus on actual sports for a bit. Is Rich Bisaccia really that well respected? I seem to remember the special teams here being a joke under his tenure. But it was a long time ago, so I may be misremembering since our special teams have been a joke for most of our history.
October 14th, 2021 at 1:08 pm
Sparky, he should be a great coach due to having access to players on different sides of the ball but there has to be some reason he has never been an HC and yes bucs ST have been atrocious for much of their existence. THE ST right now is horrible and the coach is still cashing checks
October 14th, 2021 at 1:22 pm
Of course he’s not a racist.
You judge people based on how they act, not what they write in an email to be ‘shocking’ in order to make people laugh.
Literally everyone knows that, yet there’s people who will use any excuse to make it about them, to yell “I’m a victim” and demand attention, fame, money, pity, etc.
Then you have the people who are just worthless trash losers, who enjoy tearing down everyone more successful than they and will join any public lynching. They’re the same empty headed low IQ morons who’d pick up pitchforks and join public lynchings hundreds of years ago.
October 14th, 2021 at 1:38 pm
couple things about the racism business. I think, first of all, actions are involved in racism. But it doesn’t have to be overt, and to ones face. It can be denying a raise or promotion well earned because of their sex, color, creed, and such. It can be denying them housing, rights, consideration, or a job. The true intent is often found in those laid bare discussions, as Jon had. Where you think no one else but your like minded friends are listening. It could be cutting attempts to help someone because you think most of them are in that situation because that “is just what they are.” Frankly, many times a lack of a evidence is more a matter of sophistication in being racist, than it is showing lack of racism. Hurting someone when they don’t know where it came from can be just as racist…but injuring them just the same. Just that they were smart enough to not get caught.
That being said, never too late for someone to atone and repent. And try to do the right thing from this day forward. That is what making the most of second chances are all about.
October 14th, 2021 at 1:42 pm
Rod.. that makes me laugh. Some of the biggest racists in history denied people jobs, housing, etc. but were never caught red handed. Or charged with civil rights violations. They were just smart enough to get what they wanted done behind the scenes… skirting the law and avoiding overt actions. That is what makes it so insidious.
October 14th, 2021 at 1:46 pm
It is like the old say that it is hard to catch a smart criminal. Most of those easily caught are pretty stupid.
Same thing with racism. It’s hard to catch a smart person, quietly racist. Most of them easily proven to be racist are pretty stupid.
October 14th, 2021 at 1:47 pm
It is like the old saying about catching smart criminals…same applies to smart racists.
October 14th, 2021 at 1:58 pm
This whole thing ruins Grudens chances of returning to coaching for now. Perhaps later at the small college or HS level. But he could open up his own private football training/learning firm. A lot of parents would send their future QB prospects to his group for training. And Chucky would be great at this. Look, the guy probably has say. Conservatively..from 35 to 50 million stashed under his belt. And he could retire comfortably forever anywhere he wants. But Gruden will be back privately with football in some manner. He loves the game to much.
October 14th, 2021 at 1:59 pm
mark2001 – So Gruden was secretly a racist all these years, denied blacks and gays jobs… LOL!
BTW, what exactly is the benefit of constantly playing the victim card, pretending everyone is out to get you? Is it just to cover up for your personal failings? To explain why you’re a failure and everyone else isn’t? Is it just so you can walk around playing the tough guy, like on a TV show? Is it just because you’re an easily manipulated idiot unable to think for yourself?
Please enlighten everyone.
October 14th, 2021 at 2:04 pm
Mike Johnson – I highly doubt he’d even bother to try to coach again, if he did, all the attention would be on him and would destroy anything he was involved with. His only option would be to really pander and embarrass himself and do something like coach an all-minority trans powerpuff team – which, btw, would easily destroy the real girls powerpuff team. I’d hope he’d have more dignity than that.
What Gruden likes is attention, so most likely he’ll start a podcast talking football in a year or two, and he’ll probably be pretty good at it, he can talk about football with enthenism, and we know he has a potty mouth which will keep things interesting when he’s unfiltered and knows he’ll never do anything with the NFL again. I was never a fan of Gruden as the coach of the Bucs, all he did was win with Dungy’s team, then destroy that team. But on MNF I thought he did a good job.
October 14th, 2021 at 2:15 pm
Hey guys, I’m a super macho tough guy with a chip on my shoulder who will stab you in the face if you look at me wrong… but please, watch your language as you can bring me to my knees by not using my preferred pronouns, misgendering people or otherwise making comments that I deem to be offensive.
Remember, bullet and knife wounds will heal, but words? Words hurt you on the inside, and that never heals.
October 14th, 2021 at 2:25 pm
ALL THIS STUFF IS NONSENSE.
What has been lost is WORDS VS. INTENT. It’s not rocket science.
Gruden being made at Goodell and calling him a F*gg*t does not make Gruden homophobic, or hate gay people. Just as Louis C.K. said in a routine once, if you grew up in the 1980s, all guys called their friends and others f*gg*t as a putdown and insult. It had nothing to do with hating all gay people.
It’s also the same with insulting someone that happens to be black. The insult is fully directed at that ONE PERSON. It’s not a blanket statement nor an intention of hate towards all black people.
Gruden isn’t racist as many blank players and colleagues have stood up for him. THEY’D know from having deep relationships with him. Gruden wasn’t secretly going home at not and participating in online Zoom meetings for the KKK.
People get mad and call people names and say inflammatory things all the time, but it doesn’t mean there’s INTENT behind those words to hate an entire group of people that your target of your frustration happens to belong to.
There can be no *IST or any kind without INTENT.
October 14th, 2021 at 2:28 pm
Not sure why my post disappeared and doesn’t even say it’s in moderation. Maybe because I used the f-word and spelling it with asterisks as how news articles use it.
My point was, there is no hate or “racist” or disdain for entire groups of people without INTENT and getting mad and using inflammatory language at a few people, that may happen to be a member of those groups, doesn’t mean you hate all other people of the same group.
Gruden called Goodell a hateful word related to gays. That doesn’t mean Gruden hates all gay people. Hell, Goodell isn’t even gay.
October 14th, 2021 at 2:36 pm
Rod…please give Gruden a little credit for being a little more sophisticated than you seem to understand. He had to get along with minority players in a league mostly full of minority players…if he wanted to be coach he had to deal with minorities players and succeed. It is bigger than that.
Like I said…where he takes it now will be the measure of the man.
October 14th, 2021 at 3:05 pm
mark2001 – Ah, yes, the great conspiracy continues… Gruden had to hire blacks and gays in order to keep up appearances so he could achieve his ultimate goal of white supremacy. LOL!
Here’s an idea, give it a thought, it’s going to be new to you, but give it serious consideration.
Gruden said mean words, because it’s funny to say them, to use ‘shocking’ language, or it’s just fun to say ‘banned’ language because it’s banned. Or maybe he likes to say ‘shocking’ things because he’s talking to nerds and it makes them uncomfortable. I personally know that if I’m around someone who gets easily offended by language, it’s pretty much impossible for me not to try to trigger them, because it’s so much fun.
Meanwhile you’re living in a world where you take every word literally while ignoring the actions. That’s is a really tarded place to live. Words are not more important than actions.
There was no grand conspiracy, Gruden wasn’t playing 4D chess to bring back the klan, none of that stuff exists. I’m not sure what happened to you, if it was your parents or watching too many movies, but not every white person is out to get you. In fact, none of them are, they don’t care about you, you’re not that important.
October 14th, 2021 at 3:08 pm
Rod…apparently you aren’t sophisticated to know that a coach that acted in a racist manner couldn’t command a HC position in the NFL. Or one that sent emails communicating to others a racist manner. I do know a case in point…Jon Gruden.
October 14th, 2021 at 3:17 pm
If you cancel someone because they don’t align with your values, you are by definition saying anyone still there DOES align with your values. Is Sapp still in the ring of honor or is beating prostitutes a core value of the Gazers?
October 14th, 2021 at 3:18 pm
Mark, one could only imagine if there was animosity between Gruden & Smith what could be found in his email trail? This is a can of worms that is going to potentially ruin a number of individuals white, black, men, women, gay etc. If their fishing now, my guess is it’s a pretty big ocean.
October 14th, 2021 at 3:21 pm
I suppose wether he is a racist or not matters to Penn, Gruden and others who don’t get that you can’t work for or represent any organization you don’t own and act with impunity toward the people who work there and support your business. I’m not a racist either but I understand I’d be fired if I sent emails out on company time using offensive racial slurs. I’m not misogynistic but I know I’d be fired for email nude pics at work. The fact is he was in a high visibility position of leadership in a large organization and abused his power. Apparently 4 years of a gross vulgar president has changed the acceptable norms of moral decency and led people to believe they can do and say anything and just apologize it away with no consequences.
October 14th, 2021 at 3:24 pm
C2asante – Dummy, Gruden wasn’t working for the NFL at the time, and didn’t send anything from a company address.
Get the basics correct you dope.
October 14th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
If he was a true racist he would never have continued with his NFL career, he wouldn’t be able to have all the interaction with black personnel required of anybody who works in the NFL. I guess he can now attend KKK rallies without any fear of reprisals. LOL!!!
October 14th, 2021 at 4:33 pm
When Gruden was reintroduced as Raiders coach in January 2018, he was asked about social media and how players should express their views publicly in this day and age.
Gruden said: “You’ve got to be careful what you post because sometimes it backfires against you. You’re responsible for your actions and we’ll talk about that at length with our team.”
October 14th, 2021 at 4:34 pm
What makes a racist? You can’t be around minorities your whole life and be able to hide that sort of prejudice. I think we all have said things in private, or what we believed to be private, that we wouldn’t want made public. If that makes you a racist, most of us would probably fall into that category, white, black, yellow, or red. Ben is very confounded by this subject. As a Jew, It’s understandable why people sometimes over react
October 14th, 2021 at 4:36 pm
Moderation, what a dull way to plod through life
October 14th, 2021 at 4:39 pm
Yes! There’s a difference between a white person using the N word, and a black person Mod. Don’t believe me? Go try saying it to one. What all of you are also failing in your excuses for Gruden is his position of power. He was the final word on players, coaches, hiring, and firing. Would you feel comfortable working for a man who said those things if you were a woman, gay, or black? Gruden railing against woman referees? Doesn’t that insult every woman you know? Woman give their lives defending this country in the military, but knuckle dragging Gruden thinks they’re not worthy of reffing a game? I won’t write another word on this. Gruden is gone, not coming back chief. He can spend the rest of his days grumbling about how he was railroaded.
October 14th, 2021 at 4:41 pm
You people astound Ben
October 14th, 2021 at 5:06 pm
If Micheal Vick can be on tv, I think Chucky will be just fine. I have not read what he put in his emails, but I would think killing dogs is a worse offense.
October 14th, 2021 at 5:30 pm
Jon Gruden should have just said he identifies as Hunter Biden and all the emails are just Russian disinformation 🤣
October 14th, 2021 at 5:46 pm
Gruden may not be racist but he sure is stupid. Emailing Allen in this day and age and not thinking it may go public?? Puh-lease. He needs to kick back with his millions on Reddington Beach and enjoy himself.
October 14th, 2021 at 6:00 pm
Buckaroo a one trick pony with hunter fantasies.
October 14th, 2021 at 6:07 pm
I would think the last thing a racist would want to do is being around black players 24/7, have them hugging you, slapping you on your face, and constantly spending time with them.
October 14th, 2021 at 6:07 pm
* Having them slap you on your azz I meant.
October 14th, 2021 at 6:43 pm
One thing is for sure and that is the 1’st Amendment is dead, at least free speech is. They’re coming after the 2’nd as fast as they can. I understand the sponsorship problem for the Raiders but it was a private email that should have had redactions before it was released. I don’t care either way but this Country has an over abundance of whiny babies that get their panties in a wad over everything. Man up and eff your feelings. Chucky should have stood up and owned it. D Smith was a horrible rep for the players. He screwed up the game with all the off-season changes he got it n place. I don’t care what color he is and I can think of a few more choice words to describe him. Chucky should have fought it and made them publicly fire him. Coward 😂. Hate me because I don’t care but definitely harden up because a storm is brewing.
October 14th, 2021 at 7:00 pm
Basically, Gruden is collateral damage in a investigation into the Washington football team. I would think a lawyer could make a case for invasion of privacy on behalf Gruden
October 14th, 2021 at 7:37 pm
Sure… Gruden was arrested and awaiting trial for his speech…NOT.
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean if you say or email something outside of the corporate culture, you are protected. No basis for a lawsuit, Buchouse lawyers.
Let’s hope he makes amends and repents. He may never coach in the NFL again…but I think he can restore his legacy.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:14 pm
Geez folks, it’s not that gosh damn hard. Current theories point to the entirety of the human race beginning in Africa. Whether you like it or not, “African” could be used in front of whatever country that you come from and it would be correct. Every race, color, and creed has been enslaved, demeaned, and generally treated like sh!t at one point or another in our sordid history. Hell, some have even been downright exterminated. Talk to any Taino indians in your lifetime? This bloodthirsty, horrible history is something that we all have in common.
Bottom line is we are all human and in the end that is all that matters. We are all genetically identical and ‘race” is a construct created by those who wish to demean, divide, and ultimately attempt to control the masses. Love and treating one a other as equals regardless of their skin color, religion, gender, sexual preference, or their beer preference is the only way that we can ultimately survive to start planting our seeds throughout the stars man. Peace.