Bruce Arians Doesn’t Deny Interest In Stephon Gilmore
October 6th, 2021
Bucco Bruce Arians
Whenever Bucco Bruce Arians doesn’t brush off a suggestion or question about adding a specific player, that often means there is smoke behind the scenes. Just ask Tom Brady.
Though Arians was clear to point out he isn’t sure if Bucs suits are working behind the scenes, he did say the Bucs will “kick the tires” on anyone available, so he told Jenna Laine of ESPN.
I asked Bruce Arians if Stephon Gilmore is someone they’d reach out to. He told me he’d just gotten out of meetings and needs to talk to Jason Licht but, “We’ll kick the tires on everybody that’s available, so we’ll see. If it’s a fit, it’s a fit. If it’s not, it’s not.”
— JennaLaineESPN (@JennaLaineESPN) October 6, 2021
Joe would be very surprised if the Bucs don’t acquire a veteran corner between now and Nov. 2, the NFL trade deadline.
Just a hunch that with the schedule turning softer for the next few weeks, the Bucs will closely monitor how they get by with Richard Sherman and the bottle of cologne, Pierre Desir.
How those two perform will either turn the heat up on trade talks or cool the burner down.
October 6th, 2021 at 12:09 pm
I put this in another thread but according to Greg Auman at The Athletic, Stephon Gilmore just started following several Bucs on IG including Jason Licht… for what that is worth…
October 6th, 2021 at 12:11 pm
Pete will send Arians & Licht 17 cases of Natty Daddy if they do this
October 6th, 2021 at 12:12 pm
Notice how Belichick waited until AFTER we played the Pats to release him, while we still have to play the Jets, Bills and Miami.
October 6th, 2021 at 12:16 pm
LOL He’s a crafty one., 🙂
October 6th, 2021 at 12:17 pm
Use void years, make it happen.
Think of that, if you got Gilmore and Davis, wow… That’s a hell of a combo, plus SMB and Dean can now move to #3 and #4 where they’re now a huge plus for you – compared to when they’re both another up. Then finally Sherman can still around to help with experience.
As for the deal, just get it done. We’ve already mortgaged the future for this year and next year, so who cares if you go more into debt in the 2024 cap? Just use void years, any trickery available to get it done, try to wrap him up for next year too.
October 6th, 2021 at 12:20 pm
I lol every time I read “the bottle of cologne”… EVERY TIME!
October 6th, 2021 at 12:21 pm
“We’ll kick the tires on everybody that’s available, so we’ll see. If it’s a fit, it’s a fit. If it’s not, it’s not.”
I just LOVE BA! Dude is truly old school!
October 6th, 2021 at 12:21 pm
Munch,
You know it. Agree. Sign Gilmore today.
October 6th, 2021 at 12:25 pm
LOL When Joe first heard the name he thought, “Pierre Desir? Is that a perfume?” 🙂
October 6th, 2021 at 12:25 pm
Gilmore hasn’t been released, at least not yet. The earliest he can be officially released is at 4PM EST.
The purpose of the release announcement was to generate trade offers, that the Patriots were sincere in wanting to clear the Gilmore cap space off the roster. They were obviously talking to teams about a trade, but Gilmore’s contract demands scared them off.
And that is why a single year contract is highly unlikely Rod Munch. Gilmore is 31 and this is his final shot at a huge, multi-year deal. He’ll only agree to a single year contract as a last resort.
That multi-year demand by Gilmore will also scare off teams. Think about it, if you overpay by sending over a second round pick, you’ve put a gun to your head. Everyone will second guess the GM and call him a fool for spending a second round pick on a player who wasn’t re-signed.
October 6th, 2021 at 12:25 pm
Slow your roll on Gilmore. He wants money and 13 teams can create +$10M in cap space.
Gilmore has a ring. He left NE because of money. I don’t see him coming to Tampa for peanuts.
October 6th, 2021 at 12:27 pm
You know its a great day in Bucs land when pill-popping, Natty Boh binge-drinking, Rojo-peeved, Trask-bashing, meltdown-having, Monday-morning-quarterbacking @Medicated Pete offers up his stash of Natty Daddy” to Bucs Brass! I support this decision. #SignGilmore #WeNeedHelp #GoBucs
October 6th, 2021 at 12:28 pm
I’m a firm believer that if he wants to come here. We’ll sign him
Go Bucs
October 6th, 2021 at 12:30 pm
For all the congrats on bringing everyone back, they really shouldn’t have brought back most of that awful secondary. Davis is just not very good, and watching people sprint by him, Bunting-Murphy and others makes it more clear by the day.
Getting Sherman and potentially Gilmore can right a very, very big wrong from the summer. Now if only they can figure out how to fix that mistake of signing Donovan Smith.
Bringing back the same people is by definition not improving areas that need fixing. And a team that was 11-5 last year had some areas to improve.
October 6th, 2021 at 12:34 pm
I see what you did there MidAtlanticBucsFan
😂😊😂
October 6th, 2021 at 12:36 pm
Pete sees you @MidAtlanticBucsFan 👍🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
October 6th, 2021 at 12:38 pm
Due to the amount owed each player, trading Jaylon Smith to Patriots for Gilmore was not possible under current salary cap. But its awfully fishy how the Cowboys release Smith and now Patriots release Gilmore with pending news that Smith is going to sign with the Patriots as soon as he clears waivers. I am inclined to think there was a salary cap circumventing move here especially if Gilmore ends up signing with the Cowboys!
October 6th, 2021 at 12:41 pm
“I lol every time I read “the bottle of cologne”… EVERY TIME!
LOL When Joe first heard the name he thought, “Pierre Desir? Is that a perfume?” 🙂”
Best one in years, guys!
October 6th, 2021 at 12:50 pm
Joe cannot go there. If they were truly that awful, there is no way they beat Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes in a row. And absolutely choke out Mahomes.
SMB had three picks in the playoffs. Very, very few NFL players have ever done that.
If you want to say the secondary was too young, OK. Joe will buy that. Too injury-prone? OK. But “awful?” That’s not fair. It wasn’t like they had E.J. Biggers and Sabby the Goat and Mike Jenkins and Cody Grimm back there.
October 6th, 2021 at 12:52 pm
🙂
October 6th, 2021 at 1:07 pm
This is where you tell Brady to pull every string possible, start the sweet talk. Also, who says you’d be paying him peanuts? Again, void years, accounting trickery, deferred guaranteed bonuses, can all kick the ball down the road a few years. You could sign him to a 7-year deal, which is really a 2-year deal, give him a ton of money and really spread it out.
Also, as I said, I’d try to use this as a chance to sign him to a multi-year deal. Also that gives you a bit of security blanket in case it’s impossible to resign Davis. But for this year, with both guys, you got two really good corners and suddenly the weakest part of your team is suddenly a strength.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:07 pm
Can we please show Pierre Desir a little respect. The bottle of cologne comment may have been humorous once, but not on a continual basis. Desir may not have been the same level of talent of a starting cornerback in the NFL, but he has earned a roster spot and will be starting until Davis, SMB, and Dean return. He held up reasonably well all things considered.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:13 pm
If im gilmore. I sign with brady .. bucs. The remainder of year. And get a ring. Play good and next year get a 3yr / 45m -60m contract.
Why the bucs=brady and better defense and / vets. Jpp, suh, david, sherman, shaq, vea. Not much of pressure to be DPOY. And todd bowles.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:15 pm
Just heard that stinkin’ Panthers got Gilmore
October 6th, 2021 at 1:16 pm
Yep, Panthers traded for him.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:17 pm
Maybe they’ll try to nickel and dime him and he’ll refuse to play, or maybe after not playing last year he’s washed up. We can hope.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:18 pm
JESUS H CHRIST.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:20 pm
Wait… he said he’s not playing for that contract, he wants a new deal.
Did the Panthers have a new deal in place? Or did they just give the Pats like a 6th round pick or something to make sure he wasn’t cut, and couldn’t sign with the Bucs.
Frankly, if the Panthers just traded a late pick to block the Bucs from signing him, it’s a brilliant move on their behalf. Sucks for us, but it’s a really smart move on their behalf.
Of course why they’d worry about blocking us when they’re going to be 3-6 in a few weeks is beyond me. Those dummies actually think they have a good team because they beat the Jets and Texans.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:22 pm
Well that ship has sailed:
The Patriots just traded Gilmore to the Panthers for a 6th round pick.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:23 pm
I’m sure Licht would have surrendered more than that. It confirms my suspicion that Belichick would not trade Gilmore to Tampa Bay. He’s already sensitive to Brady winning a Super Bowl without him.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:26 pm
I don’t get it. This means more likely that bill belichick didn’t wanna trade Gilmore to the bucs. For a 6th rounder? Give me a break.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:26 pm
It was said last week that Panthers were making a hard play at Sherman, and Brady convinced him to sign here. So not surprised the Panthers trade for Gilmore now.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:27 pm
PassingThru – The issue with the Bucs trading for him is we don’t have the cap space to do a straight trade AND he said he’s not playing for that contract. If he was released, then the Bucs can work all sorts of magic to get a deal done. We’ll see if the Panthers give him a new deal, or, if as I said above, they just spent a 6th to make sure the Bucs couldn’t sign him. Even if Gilmore never plays for the Panthers, they just hurt a division rival for a 6th round pick.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:29 pm
Its ok. We dont played darnold and panthers until week 16 and 18. By then we should have wrapped first round bye.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:29 pm
We better hope Carlton Davis comes back soon. Still have questions with the secondary until we get healthy. Everything will depend on this pass rush.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:30 pm
Bucs rumored to have interest in the CB from dolphins.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:30 pm
Adrnagy i still don’t think much about the panthers even with the acquisition of Gilmore. The QB is the thing that might hold them back. I don’t trust darnold.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:31 pm
@Rod Munch
It was possible as the paperwork for releasing Gilmore hadn’t been turned in. If the two teams wanted to trade, the Bucs would have to find a player or two to restructure their deal (I’m sure Brady would) and have the Patriots keep Gilmore for an extra day. It wasn’t that big a deal, except for future cap space ramifications.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:31 pm
Adrnagy which corner from the dolphins? Where did you read that?
October 6th, 2021 at 1:33 pm
So panthers and rhule will eat gilmores contract and give up a pick. Wow. 10 week investement. And that if gilmore is ready and full speed 100%.
If patriots dont want you theres a good reason for it.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:33 pm
What’s the official word on the carlton davis injury? They haven’t said much.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:34 pm
Adrnagy if you’ve been paying attention Billy B seems to have lost his touch a bit.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:36 pm
Here’s where it gets weird kids:
What did Belichick trade him? To the Panthers, the team that is currently has an identical record to the Bucs. My guess is that the Green Bay rumor was BS, it was put out there by the Pats to generate interest.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:37 pm
PassingThru – The issue is Gilmore said he’s not playing for his contract, he would sit out unless he was paid as a top corner. If he’s cut, and you have nothing on the books, you can come up with some creative way to pay him. If you trade for him, now he’s on the books for $7m and you still need to play games to reduce that number while giving him more money. I believe it’s a lot more difficult to do the book trickery when he’s on the roster – but I could be wrong. But if the Bucs could get it done with a trade, I’m sure Licht called and offered something, and i’d certainly assume it was more than a 6th rounder. Then again maybe Licht got word of his contract demands, and heard he’s not willing to playball on being creative in how he gets his money, and that took him off the board.
Hard to say unless we hear something else.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:42 pm
This team needs to get healthy in the secondary and they have to start pressing these wideouts at the line of scrimmage. I wonder if they can go after someone else through trade but who? Can they afford anyone?
October 6th, 2021 at 1:44 pm
Well the Panthers could win the division now!
October 6th, 2021 at 1:44 pm
Rod Munch, it is possible that Gilmore could sit out the season, but I doubt that would happen. He wants that last rich contract. If he refuses to play this season, no team will likely offer him all that much during the upcoming offseason:
1. Over one year of football inactivity has killed careers. Many players do not return to the same level of play after that layoff.
2. Gilmore is coming off quad surgery.
3. Gilmore would be almost 32 years old at the beginning of next season.
He’s trapped into playing this season.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:45 pm
We need to cut the Panthers throat n call the pats with a 4th rd pick…it’ll be used on a special team guy anyways….this was a huge mistake on bucs staff letting the Panthers get him when we could of got him for 5mil
October 6th, 2021 at 1:47 pm
This is just a sad day to me
October 6th, 2021 at 1:48 pm
@Ed Kerber
It certainly is possible if the CB issues remain a problem. You cannot rule it out, the Bucs haven’t played at a high level yet this season.
I just find it a weird coincidence that of all the teams that could have traded for Gilmore, it was a team in the NFC South.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:49 pm
Ed Kerber they’re not that much better than the Bucs or even the saints. That’s because of the QB. I still don’t trust sam darnold.
October 6th, 2021 at 1:51 pm
@PassingThru i am still waiting for the bucs to play a complete game and for our wideouts to get open more. This offense shouldn’t be struggling with the weapons they have. Our wideouts didn’t win their matchups against the patriots.
October 6th, 2021 at 2:07 pm
Welp, the Stinking Panthers just traded for Gilmore, so we are SOL on that one.
All it took was a 2023 6th round pick! That’s peanuts!
October 6th, 2021 at 2:07 pm
Ugh of course he went to a divisional opponent.
October 6th, 2021 at 2:08 pm
Hopefully Davis comes back soon.
October 6th, 2021 at 2:12 pm
No way the Patriots would trade Gilmore to TB unless we offered a much higher draft pick. The Pats fans would go absolutely crazy.
October 6th, 2021 at 2:13 pm
The Panthers. Gimme a friggin break. We’re still all good. Good thing we didn’t lose any money.
October 6th, 2021 at 2:15 pm
Pete your a real Pisser and I agree. I will pay for shipping!
October 6th, 2021 at 2:18 pm
I think it came down to Bill Belichick, who is the de facto GM. Does anyone really believe Belichick wants Brady to win another Super Bowl?
To quote Melville’s Moby Dick:
October 6th, 2021 at 2:35 pm
Haha pats did that on purpose. They don’t want to see us win the division with their former QB.
October 6th, 2021 at 2:44 pm
This sucks. The stinkin Panthers got Gilmore for basically a cold ham sandwich and a diet coke…
6th round pick in 2023? Are you kidding me?
Was this Bill Bilicheat’s way of saying goodbye and FU to Gilmore?
Either way the Panthers just got better and we have not…
October 6th, 2021 at 3:12 pm
To late the damn Panthers got Gilmore for what equates to a bag of chips. Our corners are horrible We got lucky last year in the playoffs because as you can clearly see our defense is soft. To much whiffing on tackles and free lancing by players that should know better. This is for the PRO players that think a shoulder block or arm tackle will take down a grown ass man What’s the first they teach you at football camp If you don’t know it’s TACKLING. It’s pathetic to say this to players that make millions of dollars a year just to whiff on the most fundamental things in football. If we even make the playoffs it will be a miracle.
October 6th, 2021 at 3:26 pm
Gilmore is from the Charlotte area (Rock Hill–30 min) and I wonder if he let it be know that’s the team he would play for–a new trend (Brady) in the NFL?