Messy In New Orleans
August 15th, 2021
It’s a safe bet that only one team might stand in the way of the Bucs winning their first NFC South crown since 2007.
That’s the talented yet slimy Saints, last year’s division champ.
Of course, Drew Brees retired and the Saints are trying to knock off the defending Super Bowl champs with a completely unproven gimmicky quarterback, Taysom Hill, and/or one of the most inconsistent quarterbacks in the history of professional football, Jameis Winston.
Joe watched the first half of the Saints-Ravens game last night and Joe was treated to some messy QB play from New Orleans.
What a beautiful sight it was.
Hill had a crappy short throw followed immediately by a bad interception on the Saints’ second possession.
Winston was wonderfully inconsistent. Just when you thought he had discovered a rhythm, he was off-target on a deep ball and the ensuing tipped ball was picked off near the end of the half. The Ravens turned that miscue into a field goal as time expired in the second quarter.
Jameis was 7-of-12 for 96 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. Hill started the game and was 8-of-12 for 81 yards and a pick.
Sean Payton wouldn’t compare his QBs after the game.
Joe loves all the dysfunction in New Orleans. Imagine trying to knock off the Bucs without a decent quarterback.
August 15th, 2021 at 9:57 am
Did you ever think you’d see the day went the Saints were after our leftovers?
August 15th, 2021 at 10:06 am
{channeling FanBois}
“It’s not Winston’s fault, the Saints staff can’t develop a young, awesome QB.”
{/channel}
Saint’s Fans are in for a frustrating ride…
August 15th, 2021 at 10:07 am
NFC South easiest the Division has ever been. Cake walk
August 15th, 2021 at 10:10 am
I’m sure Winston was just “testing his boundaries during preseason” so he can find out what actually works during the season. “He wouldn’t so that in a real game.”
Lord, the excuses Bucs fans made (me included at times) during the Winston era are laughable…
August 15th, 2021 at 10:11 am
Watch how this becomes the most trending post of the week. See now how The Bucs became winners and boredom as the expense. Moreover, The Bucs were entertaining and losing was the price. It’s boring here nowadays. Of course I watch the Saints over the Bucs. And not regretting it was a fun game 1st half watching the Qb battle. Are yall following?
August 15th, 2021 at 10:13 am
And no. Im not about to sit here and Kyle Trash compete with Gabbert and Griffen for 2,3, or 4th string. H No.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:14 am
‘Dysfunction in New Orleans’? Other reports that I read Joe indicated that both Hill & Jameis looked decent for the most part. Not Drew Brees-like, but decent none-the-less. That INT on Jameis apparently was an OK thrown ball that the receiver blew. Joe watched the game, as was stated in the post. –Joe
Actually Joe, I kept waiting to read this morning about the ‘Dysfunction in Tampa’ based on last night’s game. Our defense looked respectable I thought (for the 1st preseason game), and held the Bengals to FGs on 3 giveaways. Was not at all impressed with Ryan Griffin’s attempts to thread the needle that resulted in 2 INTs, even in pre-season. And I was hoping for more from Kyle Trask’s debut; 4-for-15 for 35 yds & 2 sacks, even in a preseason game, leaves a bit to be desired. Overall, 159 total net yds of offense (to include only 29 yds rushing total) wasn’t all that inspiring. Makes me wonder if Camp Cupcake has been a little too sweet.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:15 am
Slime is a perfect way for the Aints to slide down into the cellar of the Dirty South. Would love to hear Scam Jordan start crying on camera if things turn out bad for them over the next few seasons.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:25 am
If you look at the box score, nearly none of our starters played… Not much to read into
August 15th, 2021 at 10:27 am
“That INT on Jameis apparently was an OK thrown ball that the receiver blew.”
DR….oh we’ve never heard that one before.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:30 am
Lamarcus, we’re not following. If winning is boring, then we can’t wait to be bored all year!! If bipolar “action” is your jam, enjoy it elsewhere.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:39 am
Lamarcus you don’t have to explain we all know where you stand. The archives are full of your nonsense also. I’m unsure but did you man up and eat your crow about Brady yet? Serious?
August 15th, 2021 at 10:45 am
I’m not judging anyone off of preseason gms winston has a clean slate with me. He gotta prove it to me no more excuses. He gives those great hope interviews just like with the Bucs at least he got that going for him still.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:46 am
I caught the YouTube highlights from the NFL account. It was the same Jameis weve always known. High risk/high reward throws. A pick for every TD.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:53 am
Just a quick post. Winston does NOT play for us anymore! This is a Bucs site. If I was interested in Winston stories/ stats there is a thing called the Internet. I could look it up. Kinda early in the season to be worried about what other teams may be good or trash. Let’s worry about the team on Dale Maybry. If we take care of our business everything else falls in place. Let’s talk BUCS, not Saints, KC, etc. Read or write as much as you like about Jameis someplace else please.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:53 am
I wouldn’t get too focused on which QB in NO is the sloppiest. Payton will have them playing well come their first matchup with the Bucs. Problem for the Saints is that even with a respectable QB, our team overall is now much better than theirs.
August 15th, 2021 at 10:57 am
Come on Joe. You’re brilliantly getting us Bucs fans fired up. Who cares for real.
Since I live in New Orleans I also watched. Both tackles didn’t play, Kamara didn’t play. Hill is akward throwing, but they didn’t call 1 run for him. Jameis deep ball INT wasn’t a good throw but also wasn’t a bad throw. All you can take away from that crap is that the WRs absolutely suck. They must have Jameis doing flashbacks of Freddy Martino and the bunch.
August 15th, 2021 at 11:02 am
I said the Bucs are boring…not winning. Nothing comes out of Bucs territory since winning the SB is fluff stories of Tom Brady featuring the Bucs. I’ve been following Brady for 20+ years….yawn!!
August 15th, 2021 at 11:13 am
I’ll save my WInston comments for the day after the Bucs/Saints game.
August 15th, 2021 at 11:14 am
It very much is a QB controversy in New Orleans. Both Hill and Winston got extended appearances so it sounds like they are undecided.
Hill got the start Game 1. If Winston starts Game 2 then its a full on controversy. Dysfunctional sounds pretty accurate.
August 15th, 2021 at 11:14 am
Bring Back Aaron Brooks!
You just HATE to see the Aints struggle.
August 15th, 2021 at 11:15 am
Winstons pick was thrown up for grabs into double coverage. Didn’t read the safety leaning that way. I watched the game also. Was a terrible game like all the others.
August 15th, 2021 at 11:16 am
Lamarcus is obviously not a Bucs fan if he thinks WINNING A SUPER BOWL IS BORING.
August 15th, 2021 at 11:29 am
Certain signs of an internet troll:
1) They say their team is “boring” after winning a Super Bowl
2) They say you can’t win games with The Durable One at Left Tackle. They just won a Super Bowl with Donovan Smith at LT, dummy!
August 15th, 2021 at 11:46 am
Welcome back Latroll! Thought you would be gone forever after everything you knew about great Qb play was proven wrong. You do know the Saints have their own fan sites right?
August 15th, 2021 at 11:50 am
In the words from one writer on one site. What you saw last night is the yiing and yang of Jameis Winston.
August 15th, 2021 at 12:14 pm
Yawn!!!
August 15th, 2021 at 12:19 pm
Typical Jamies Winston. Held the ball too long and got sacked 2-3 times. One really nice long pass downfield. Nice short throw for a TD and a bunch of dump off passes that went nowhere…
He looked exactly the same as he played in Tampa.
August 15th, 2021 at 12:32 pm
Gimmick qb & a bust at qb. The saints will have a losing record, but their bust of a QB will also beat us once. It’s fate.
August 15th, 2021 at 1:07 pm
Atlanta’s defense was the most impressive thing I’ve seen out if the NFC’s south division so far. I think both them and The Saints are 10 Win teams this year.
August 15th, 2021 at 1:14 pm
Who is this jameis guy people keep talking about 😱😅
August 15th, 2021 at 1:21 pm
The signs of a true die hard Bucs fan
1.Will stop watching or doing everything else to watch a pre season game
2.Will watch that game to the bitter end even when it’s painfully obvious Bucs won’t win with
5 minutes left to go.
3.Will still holler when a Joe’s “future beer truck driver ” makes a great “should be typical”
interception and houses it.
4.Will read every article about the Bucs possible even going to NFLdotcom knowing they still
won’t put up anything about our WORLD CHAMPIONS and even BSPN
5.Is not a fantasy football fan(you figure that one out by yourself why)
6.Don’t really care too much about news about any other team
7.Can find some solice in the dysfunction of the other teams of the NFC “Dirty” South
8.Will not even follow their favorite player of all time(Mr. Big99 Warren Sapp or yours) when
they go to another team
9. Will try and find a way to watch even the most unimportant preseason game
10.Always comes to joebucsfan.com for the best news about the Bucs
11.Wears their Bucs gear no matter what
I’m sure everybody has their own list and we all don’t hit all of them but dang you gotta hit 80% if you consider yourself a true Bucs fan. We ALL know who ain’t “cough cough!!!” Realist, ndog, teemaxxicon(can’t spell out his screen name I’ll go into mahderashun)
August 15th, 2021 at 1:23 pm
The signs of a true die hard Bucs fan
1.Will stop watching or doing everything else to watch a pre season game
2.Will watch that game to the bitter end even when it’s painfully obvious Bucs won’t win with
5 minutes left to go.
3.Will still holler when a Joe’s “future beer truck driver ” makes a great “should be typical”
interception and houses it.
4.Will read every article about the Bucs possible even going to NFLdotcom knowing they still
won’t put up anything about our WORLD CHAMPIONS and even BSPN
5.Is not a fantasy football fan(you figure that one out by yourself why)
6.Don’t really care too much about news about any other team
7.Can find some solice in the dysfunction of the other teams of the NFC “Dirty” South
8.Will not even follow their favorite player of all time(Mr. Big99 Warren Sapp or yours) when
they go to another team
9. Will try and find a way to watch even the most unimportant preseason game
10.Always comes to joebucsfan.com for the best news about the Bucs
11.Wears their Bucs gear no matter what
I’m sure everybody has their own list and we all don’t hit all of them but dang you gotta hit 80% if you consider yourself a true Bucs fan.
August 15th, 2021 at 1:25 pm
Sorry about the repost the algorithm up here messed me up even though I tried to make sure it didn’t post! It can really cross you up when you’re trying real hard not to get modded!!!
August 15th, 2021 at 1:33 pm
This makes me happy. Three cheers for the wild inconsistencies of Mr Crab Legs.
August 15th, 2021 at 1:40 pm
Hill would be tougher to stop for our defense than winston, I just can’t see winston starting for the saints long term.
August 15th, 2021 at 1:42 pm
Guys it’s preseason. The Saints will be good and the Falcons will be good. We should win the division but the division will be a closer race than what many think.
August 15th, 2021 at 2:01 pm
Joe is nuts, the deep ball Winston threw literally hit the guy on the hands, he then popped it in the air. How are you off target when it hits the guy in the hands?
I watched the same first half and think Joe is, indeed, nuts. Hill looked pretty good, better than I expected. He had a terrible should have been INT that was a bad throw and a bad read, but he also had an actual INT that I don’t think was his fault (post game he said the WR ran the wrong route I believe). He also took a bad sack when he thought he could run away from a defender. He lead the team to zero points in a quarter.
Winston meanwhile was the better of the two, albeit it playing with scrubs and against scrubs. That’s not just my take, the team reporters said the same thing. The INT was on the receiver, same rules as since I was 6 years old playing football – if you get your hands on the ball as a receiver, you catch it or you knock it down, you never pop it up in the air – and that is what happened. Winston looked tight early, also looked like he was ‘aiming’ his passes early – and Winston is not a good QB when he does that. However as his quarter went along he got into a grove and lead the team to 14 points in a quarter.
The big take away was that the Saints offense still looked like the Saints offense – and their defense should still be good. Anyone writing off the Saints and Payton, is a dope. They’re going to be a pain in the rear team and they’re going to pull out 10 wins likely.
August 15th, 2021 at 2:07 pm
“Inconsistent” is definitely the best word to describe Winston. At times he makes jaw-dropping plays and other times he is way off target or is wildly inaccurate. Also lacks the kind of anticipation and awareness you see in the higher echelon QBs like Brady & Mahomes.
That said, I still maintain it was NOT a mistake to draft him #1 overall. You take a chance that you can work out the bugs when you see so much talent and charisma (which you hope translates into leadership as it often does). The other QB (Mariota) proved to be no better, and the position was the #1 need of the team at the time.
The Saints still have a formidable defense and their HC is still terrific, so I wouldn’t pencil them in as automatic wins just yet.
August 15th, 2021 at 2:10 pm
When I say “NOT a mistake”, just so there’s no doubt, I’m saying WITHOUT the benefit of hindsight, only using the available information at the time.
August 15th, 2021 at 2:39 pm
Lamarcus
Yup no need to even post here. Go to saints site with your garbage
Yah. Super bowls are boring
Jameis is exciting
He gave you crabs didnt he?
August 15th, 2021 at 2:43 pm
Scoring more points then the year before is boring
😂
Lamarcus has said in the past that he is a gladiator. 😂
He thinks turnovers are exciting. 😂
Over / under lamarcus IQ at 20. 😂
August 15th, 2021 at 3:03 pm
Lamarcus’s’s definition of exciting is throwing the ball up for grabs on 2nd down…..Thats exciting stuff.
5 INT 400 yard games are also very exciting. Who doesnt love watching a team feaverishly trying to comeback from a 3 TD deficit?
And who wants to see a QB throw the ball in the dirt if a screen play gets blown up…..talk about boring…….Its much more exciting to see the QB just throw it into the air instead.
A pick 6 in OT? Also very excitimg.
August 15th, 2021 at 3:53 pm
@rod. Joe knows winston didnt play bad at all. Sorry, but you don’t get to speak for Joe. The game is on NFL Game pass. The condensed version is quick and easy. Joe wrote this because it’s what Joe saw from perhaps the one team that can stand in the Bucs’ way for the No. 1 overall seed.-Joe He just post these articles to get the winston haters out in groves. You even have one poster saying the int was because winston threw in double coverage which means he really didnt see the play at all. It is all calculated and expected at this point.
August 15th, 2021 at 4:24 pm
Winston him self said the int was because he tossed a bad ball case closed. It’s not a big deal it’s preseason.
August 15th, 2021 at 5:04 pm
Youngbuc. Jameis has said every lost, every int etc has been his fault, he said his offensive line played phenominal eventhough they sucked, the defense was amazing eventhough they gave up 40 pts ever since he has been the league. Thats just who he is. He never throws his teammates under the bus and he put all the blame on himself.
August 15th, 2021 at 5:12 pm
@Webster. One guy deflected it . Another intercepted it. Safety over the top equals double coverage. I’m not one of the Winston bashers on here. He’s an average QB . Nothing calculated about anything from me bub.
August 15th, 2021 at 5:47 pm
People this is preseason. The 1st team offense with Brady did not light it up either.
August 15th, 2021 at 5:54 pm
If we keep Trask as our number three and put Griffin on the practice squad, I wonder if the Saints are desperate enough snap him up?
August 15th, 2021 at 6:35 pm
Ah, little webster……. there you are.
I was getting worried when I didn’t see you defending Jaboo’s honor.
Stand by your man by Patsy Cline 🎶 comes to mind.
I bet you’d be willing to do more than just stand by that gift from the football gods.
He gone.
And we’re not “out in groves” anymore……. and that might just be offensive.
August 15th, 2021 at 6:54 pm
The Saints wont be standing in the way that’s for sure. Winston rode this talent to 7-9. He’ll do the same there if he gets the privilege.
August 15th, 2021 at 7:27 pm
Seems a bit odd to me that we STILL have some posters defending Jameis Winston when he’s no longer a Buc.
WTF is wrong with you people?
Fanboys much? Good grief!
August 15th, 2021 at 7:31 pm
BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT…
LASIK!
August 15th, 2021 at 7:59 pm
OK..so its messy in saints country. But the game I viewed our Bucs play against the Bengals was not exactly pristine either..It may have been on par with the Saints game. Seeing its preseason, I don’t think you can say things are messy. All teams are Messy right now. Well, most of them.
August 15th, 2021 at 8:37 pm
Saints cut Noah Spence. I had high hopes for him at one time when he was with the Bucs.
August 16th, 2021 at 3:12 am
Y’all still watching Jaboo!!!Must be some doubt about letting him go because when he beats the brakes off Chumpa Bay you’ll know the Bucs can’t develop a QB LMMFAO,Saints will once again win the South.
August 16th, 2021 at 4:32 am
I thought Jameis had a decent game. Sure, that pass was a little bit behind but the receiver had a chance to grab it and just tipped it up. Reading the comments of some Saints fans was interesting to see them defending him. Media loves to hate him but not everything is his fault.
August 16th, 2021 at 9:03 am
webster Says:
August 15th, 2021 at 5:04 pm
Youngbuc. Jameis has said every lost, every int etc has been his fault, he said his offensive line played phenominal eventhough they sucked, the defense was amazing eventhough they gave up 40 pts ever since he has been the league. Thats just who he is. He never throws his teammates under the bus and he put all the blame on himself.
The nfl has chips on players do you know how many ints Winston tossed with no pressure in a clean pocket in 2019????? Go look it up come back and talk to me!!!!! The truth will set most of you guys free if you simply look for the facts the offensive line did not suck sorry.
August 16th, 2021 at 9:07 am
Webster or you could just go look at his ints videos on YouTube almost every single time he has a clean pocket! And don’t talk to me about the defense giving up points winston plays a huge part in that also. Field position matters pick 6s matter!
August 16th, 2021 at 9:54 am
To be honest ian book will be the saints best option QB1
August 16th, 2021 at 10:04 pm
It’s never Winston’s fault. I m so glad he’s gone.
August 20th, 2021 at 5:08 pm
The deep pass wasn’t off target it was thrown back shoulder to avoid the safety coming. Saints reporter (Nick Underhill I believe his name is) had the all 22 version where you can see the ball hit the wrs hands and the corner pop it up…To call Winston the most inconsistent qb in NFL history is stupid and not true. As of Ryan Leaf didn’t exist or Jake Plummer who had the most turnovers in NFL history after 5yrs with 117. Your qb is Brady enjoy him instead bashing Winston.
Winston isn’t married to “good witch” like Brady. Who has him do all kind rituals. You can hear it out of Brady’s own mouth if you google Brady’s Gillette interview. He calls her a good witch.