Joe Tryon Still In Learning Stage
August 6th, 2021
Todd Bowles on rookie OLB.
Last week Bucs Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians shook the NFL when he said rookie pass rusher Joe Tryon was sometimes “kicking” Tristan Wirfs’ tail.
Given how some believe Wirfs is already the best right tackle in the NFL, that was a stunning admission.
Of course, the next day, Arians brought Tryon down a few pegs by grumbling about his freelancing.
Yesterday Bucs defensive coordinator Todd Bowles wasn’t as over-the-top about Tryon as Arians — nor was Bowles as down on Tryon. The potential is there for Tryon to shine, Bowles said. But it’s still really early.
“He’s coming along fine,” Bowles said when asked for a critque of Tryon. “He’s learning the scheme. It’s not an easy scheme to learn for him so we’re trying to put him in different positions and move him around.
“We’d still like to see him in preseason, but he’s got some tools. He’s got a toolkit, he showed that in college. Love the build and the size; he’s very intelligent. He’s tough, he’s smart.
“He just has to learn the scheme, and if you can play in this scheme, we’ll find a place for you.”
Joe has already shared that Brian Baldinger of NFL Network reported he chatted with Bowles at Bucs practice and Bowles told him he already had a package for Tryon to get snaps and looks.
Even Tryon admitted he has some rust from not playing football since December 2019. How quickly he shakes that off, who knows. But it would be so cool if Tryon, could get, say, a half-dozen sacks. This pass rush of the Bucs would be downright scary.
August 6th, 2021 at 9:19 am
Year #1 w/ Tryon: just give 100% effort & learn from JPP & Shaq
August 6th, 2021 at 9:25 am
He automatically will be better than Noah Spence based on size alone
August 6th, 2021 at 9:51 am
He’s being oriented to the system by great coaches and is being mentored by two of the best DEs in the league. He will get some in-game experience spelling JPP and Shaq during the season and should be in really fine form by playoff time.
August 6th, 2021 at 10:19 am
Tryon had the physical tools and size to be top 10 in the draft. He only fell down late in the first round due to missing last year.
BA, Bowles and Licht know they got a steal when they drafted him. In fact, when the Bucs were on the clock, it took only 10 seconds to choose his name.
August 6th, 2021 at 10:22 am
wirfs letting the rook build some confidence….lol…
tryon and nelson should be fun this year…
GO BUCS!!!!
August 6th, 2021 at 10:56 am
Good point, Alabama. This guy could be a star early in his career.
August 6th, 2021 at 10:58 am
Getting the vibe that Tryon does not fit the scheme.
August 6th, 2021 at 11:03 am
Doug RR Martin Says:
August 6th, 2021 at 10:58 am
??? That literally makes no sense.
August 6th, 2021 at 11:34 am
Doug RR Martin Says: “Getting the vibe that Tryon does not fit the scheme.”
Nay, he missed a couple of running assignments and was told to stay in his lane. You can’t just be a pass rusher in Todd Bowles scheme. He’ll do fine if he sticks to his assignments.
August 6th, 2021 at 11:57 am
Think of it this way … Writing a paper from scratch is a lot harder than quoting existing copy.
Tryon has the luxury of watching JPP AND Shaq – practice, tape room, games – while learning.
He doesn’t have to invent success. He just has to replicate it.
He has all the tools. He’ll be productive from Day 1 and a beast by EOY.
August 6th, 2021 at 12:16 pm
@Doug RR Martin
Tryon is good clay in terms of his attributes, it’s just a matter of him shaking off the rust and understanding what’s expected. There are downs that you aggressively pursue the QB, others that you seal the edge, and others that you drop into coverage. That’s why having an edge player with a brain and the flexibility to not just obsess over individual stats (sacks, hits, pressures) is important. Face it, most edge players make the big bucks and gain recognition over those important stats, but there’s more to the team game than that. And hey, it’s fun! That’s why Ariens sent a warning shot over the bow: Stop the freelancing because there’s more to playing the edge than just flying after the QB like a crazed, backstage groupie. The challenge for Tryon iss to recognize what’s happening on the field and maintain discipline. Sometimes you have to seal the edge or drop into pass coverage.
August 6th, 2021 at 12:45 pm
Yes, Bowles scheme requires discipline, and you just can’t rush the passer all out w/o worrying about your gap.
But for Arians to admit he beat Wirfs a few times is Golden!
Him and Wirfs have something in common. They both fell to us, and should have been picked higher!
August 6th, 2021 at 1:04 pm
i Agree with each and every comment except Doug RR Martin. Tryon could be a real Beast
August 6th, 2021 at 2:08 pm
@passingthru I think you may have the best current assessment of Joey Tryon. Great to have some depth and for that depth to have real potential (thinking Shaq B in Denver) is a fantastic place to be. Joey bucsfan was always right in that Bucs had great depth but were a bit thin at OLB. If Tryon pans out in the slightest we’ll be rocking doc.
August 6th, 2021 at 5:27 pm
I seem to remember a lot of people were either on the fence or upset with this pick. A few made the argument that a player picked in the first round should be a starter right away. A few said that we should have taken a DB or RB. A few judged him for sitting out because of Covid. Pease remember he was chosen 32nd overall. One more slot and he is in the second round. I think Tryon will be successful it would be hard not to be with the players he is surrounded with on this D-line.
August 6th, 2021 at 9:39 pm
No judgement for him sitting out. He is from Washington, where the psycho Governor has been trying to scare the daylights out of everyone 24-7 since day 1.