NFC May Be Worse — Except For Bucs
June 12th, 2021Now this is a cool way of looking at things. Even if it came from a serial spreadsheeter.
Joe has to give the devil his due here. Follically-challenged Billy Barnwell of BSPN has a unique view of the NFC.
He believes the Bucs are the frontrunner in the conference not just because they are the defending Super Bowl champions, and not because the Bucs may have had the perfect offseason. No, Barnwell thinks the Bucs are the cream of the crop because the Bucs’ biggest obstacles to getting back to the Super Bowl have very likely grown worse.
What went wrong: Everyone got a year older? It’s really tough to find much that went wrong for Tampa this offseason. Its main competitors in the NFC got worse, as the Saints were forced to shed talent and the Packers might have started a blood feud with Aaron Rodgers. You could quibble with using a second-round pick on quarterback Kyle Trask as opposed to using that pick to try to add more depth up front, but Tampa used its third-round pick on Robert Hainsey instead.
Yeah, if drama queen Aaron Rodgers retires (“Ha, ha!”) or forces a trade, does anyone truly believe the Packers will return to the NFC title game?
And the Saints certainly got worse through attrition.
Washington? Give Joe a break! Yes, WTF’s defense may be the best in the NFC. But you have to score points to win. Ryan Fitzpatrick? LOL He s@cks!
The only decent team Joe thinks has actually improved during the offseason is the Rams.
June 12th, 2021 at 12:04 am
The rams and bucs are the top contenders in the nfc imo, followed by niners, seahawks and packers.
June 12th, 2021 at 1:06 am
With the Packers, everything depends on how the Rodgers soap opera ends. If Rodgers doesnt return or the drama continues into the season, then the Packers won’t be a major threat. Even if Jordan Love plays, and plays well, the Rodgers drama is going to be a distraction. They are not going to win 13 games.
If that’s the case, Rams will be the biggest opposition. 49ers is a popular sleeper pick. But I don’t see them going the distance with a rookie QB. But they may be improved over last year. Then you have Seattle. Good news is these 3 teams are in the same division. So they will beat each other up and cause some losses between themselves. So a decent 49er team may help our playoff seeding.
The South is never easy. But the Saints will take a step backwards after losing their Hall of Fame QB and some other key guys. Falcons traded away their star WR. And Panthers are still rebuilding. So unless we have some major injury issues, we should win the South without much trouble. Losing the division crown would be a disappointment.
By comparison, the AFC looks much more difficult. The AFC has some good teams.
June 12th, 2021 at 1:35 am
Geez Joe, take it easy on Fitzmagic! lol He knows how to have fun slinging it around, love watching him play. And if he’s having one of his “A” games, he can still cause some damage. If his o-line holds up, could be an infamous trap game??? I don’t want that to happen, but it’s a possibility, just saying.
June 12th, 2021 at 1:36 am
Wow fitz s@cks ? Thats cold to say to a man that had some fun moments with us . Fitz is the goat coming off bench . That 48 40 game 1 against the aints was so great
June 12th, 2021 at 3:31 am
If Fitz s@cks in Joe’s opinion, what does that make our profanity table top yelling in cafeteria, bb shooting, crab leg stealing, alleged raping, alleged crotch uber grabbing, lying go teammates, suspended multiple times one more strike and your out, W eating, interception fumbling king, fired former #1 overall draft pick.
Fitz got shipped because he was too good of competition, and Coach didn’t want the distraction. Turns out, $30M (ahem ,$1m) per yr man was the problem.
Thank goodness he found Google to learn how to properly play QB, because this staff clearly can’t coach. Same staff that just won the SB.
And Fitz S@cks?
Puuuuhhllleeeeeaaaassse…..
In BA I Trust!
June 12th, 2021 at 4:05 am
Fitzpatrick sucks but yall love him so much lol πlol ππ€£π.
June 12th, 2021 at 5:10 am
Rams no question. That division is pretty tough
Rams tops but that is if matt stafford can stay healthy and play an entire season
49ers are a good team just need whoever plays at qb to put them over the top
Seahawks have russel wilson…enough said
Cardinals have a young team with dual threat qb but solid all around
Hopefully that division beats the crap out of each other like they always do
Other divisions not so great…and if packers do not have rodgers , bucs in driver seat. And i dont think rodgers is bluffing about sitting out season. Loved watching him play over the years but the last few , he showed what a nutjob he truly is. I think there is a screw loose. He basically cut off the rest of his family (even his own mom and dad) over some crazy hollywood actress (cant think of her name) And then just lanother qqmarried another hollywood actress after dating a few months.
June 12th, 2021 at 7:46 am
The issue with the Rams is that they are in the toughest division in the NFL. Which may help the Bucs!
June 12th, 2021 at 7:56 am
I wish Aaron the whinner Rodgers would retire I tired of listening to these 35 mil a year players not happy the way things are going. He sure wasn’t whinning when he signed that big contract a couple of years ago.
June 12th, 2021 at 8:05 am
I saw this –
Aaron Rodgers βBrady will get more rings (7) than Philip Rivers has kids (9) before I play with the Packers againβ
I donβt know if he said that or if this was just a joke, but I thought it was funny
June 12th, 2021 at 8:29 am
Joe you crazy fitz can put up points but he also can give them away in bulk. Sounds familiar huh Bucs fans?
June 12th, 2021 at 8:40 am
Sports. How many teams Fitzpatrick played for and how many times did he start ?? Fitzpatrick is trash this is what you call white privilege. People say I race bait a lot but the love and the hope he does well yall have for this guy is crazy lol π ππ€£!! But yall gets mad because I don’t bash Jamies are hope he fails but yall feel the same way about Fitzpatrick and I don’t have a problem with it but yall have a problem that I feel the same way about Jamies. Maybe it’s because Fitzpatrick is white and Jamies is black. But yall say I’m a racist lol πππ€£ .
June 12th, 2021 at 9:30 am
yeah Oneilbuc, you are racist. Nobody brought up race, people dont like jameis because he throws too many picks and hes a pretty bad dude behind the scenes, going all the way back to college. His actions off the field are enough for people dislike him. Fitz is a typical backup who doesnt run his mouth or do anything crazy behind the scenes. Take your bs else
June 12th, 2021 at 9:36 am
There is our resident racist oneil
One word : trash
Oneil check fitzpatrick record vs jameis record
Fitz has slightly better record π
And he played for some terrible jets and bills and same bucs team
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June 12th, 2021 at 10:16 am
407bucs . Lol ππ€£π I’m a racist but I like the Kyle Trask pick . Lol ππ€£ then you bring up Jamies and what he did in college 9 years ago . I guess you feel the same way about Baker Mayfield and big Ben are what about when they said Brady was cheating by deflating footballs you dislike Brady now ?? Lol ππ€£π all that off the feel stuff doesn’t mean nothing because no one watch sports to see who has the cleaner record . The problem is when someone exposed the hart of some of yall then it makes you uncomfortable.
June 12th, 2021 at 10:31 am
Fitz seemed to finally use his huge IQ at Miami to quit throwing stupid picks. It’s a shame to pushed Tua there, Fitz has been playing like one of the better qb’s in the league
June 12th, 2021 at 10:45 am
It will be interesting to see who has the better career – Ryan Fitzpatrick or Jameis Winston. Right now it is Fitz but mostly because he has been around longer.
Jameis has had the advantage of working with all offensive based head coaches in his career and not having to work his way into the starter where I think Fitz has played more with defensive based head coaches.
The ability for Jameis to have the better career is there because he is now with one of the top 3 quarterback/play calling head coaches in the NFL. But I hate the Saints so I hope he fails again.
What we can say is that neither Fitz or Winston will make the HOF. Glad we have the greatest HOF QB on our team now. Go Bucs 2021 and repeat.
June 12th, 2021 at 11:01 am
Geno711 I’m done man yall think Fitzpatrick is a good quarterback lol πππ€£. He has had so many chances to start on good teams and never played in 1 playoff game lol ππ he been in the NFL for what 15 years and started for the Bills, Texans, Rams, Dolphins, Cincinnati , Jets, and now Washington and still think it’s some more teams he started for and never played in 1 playoff game and yall give him credit and excuses ? Lol ππ€£π some of yall on this site is crazy π€ͺ !!!
June 12th, 2021 at 11:11 am
Had the stupid Packers drafted a WR or TE instead of Jordan Love, it could have been them in the Super Bowl instead of us, the game was that close. No way that thought hasn’t occurred to Rodgers a million times
June 12th, 2021 at 11:56 am
Or, if Brady hadnβt thrown 3 interceptions vs Packers, Bucs mightβve won by 30.
June 12th, 2021 at 12:48 pm
Oneilbucs,
The Uber incident that got Winston suspended where Fitz got to play was NOT in college.
Many of us loved Fitz because he was a gamer and had some huge wins and huge games.
You can’t play the ole trusty ‘Race Card’ just because many Bucs fans didn’t like Winston (due to his turnovers and other issues). Many of us that don’t care for Winston were big fans of Doug Williams. We also fully supported Shaun King & Josh Freeman. Wait for it… yes, all of them were black Buccaneer QBs.
Also… “Positional Racism” is such a stupid attempt at a debate. How can people love their team, and love guys like Evans, White, David, Brooks, Sapp, JPP, Shaq, Ronde, etc. (all players who are black) yet somehow be ‘racist’ just because of the QB position? That makes zero sense.
June 12th, 2021 at 12:51 pm
THE RAMS are the team that scares me in the NFC.
Rams have a solid Defense and now you have Stafford finally getting a chance to get out of Detroit, a losing franchise in a small market, and play for a winning team in one of the biggest TV markets. Stafford is a solid QB and he may be dangerous with the Rams.
June 12th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Bradybuc I don’t judge people base on what happened 9 years ago are even 7 years ago. I stood by a lot of men who got caught up in the me to movement. Jamies was a victim of the me to movement just like a lot of rich men was. They even brought something up on Payton Manning before. The uber case was a lie the girl changed her story first she said Jamies touch her for 4 seconds and then she said stop and he stopped. Then they threw that story out and said he touch me. Now Jamies a married man and ain’t nothing came on him since 2016 . And yall still try to judge him for something that probably didn’t happen . And that’s just another fact that yall just hate that brother. Lol ππ€£π and yes when comes to black men who get accused of something they are guilty until proven innocent. Their no proof of him doing anything . But we had a president who had 35 women plus a audio of him degrading women and most of yall gave him a pass . Now you tell me if race don’t play apart of the hate for Jamies. Lol π
June 12th, 2021 at 4:54 pm
Oneilbucs is a clown there are black journeyman QBs like fitz. I could name them but why not just predict the next one. His name is jameis Winston and he plays football exactly like fitz. He will be a journeyman!!!!
June 12th, 2021 at 5:03 pm
Oneilbucs makes up his own facts so. So the Uber thing was a lie??? Dude wonβt hold winston to no standards on or off the field. Winston admitted it basically trying to blame alcohol. Heβs a better man for it now but your excuses for him are unlimited!
June 12th, 2021 at 5:07 pm
@Oneill: your boy Jameis Christ cheated on his “fiance”, LIED to his teammates, had a former teammate try to lie for him, and his actions cost the team dearly.
Quite the “character” combo.
It also showed that old white man Fitz > Winston.
June 12th, 2021 at 5:11 pm
Oneilbuc, I assure you that race does not play a part in my dislike for Jay Miss. I’m sure you and I have similar political views. However, I don’t like my QB to throw 30 interceptions in a single season. I don’t like my QB to be unaware of impending pressure and fumble all the time. I don’t like my QB to make stupid decisions with the football. I also don’t like many of Jay Miss’s decisions off the football field. You need to put down that race card.
June 12th, 2021 at 5:13 pm
And regarding the topic of this article, I think the Rams are the biggest competition we face in the NFC this year. However, I’m not scared of Matthew Stafford. As I recall, he was the number one overall pick and while he is better than Jay Miss, he’s nothing terribly special.
June 12th, 2021 at 5:33 pm
Lol ππ€£π You can call it race card all you want but facts or facts. I never said everyone hates Jamies because he black . Now yall trying to put words in mouth . And yes Jamies threw 30 picks with the same coach who helped coach Payton Manning to a 100 picks in 5 years. I like BA because he’s done a lot for the brothers in the NFL. I will never call him a racist because I know he’s not . Just like the Glazers they are the main reason I became a fan because they are one of the only franchise who believes in equality. The only thing I don’t like about BA is his high risk offense I know yall just can’t admit that he changed his offense because that will kill your Jamies scapegoat narratives. So now we have a new young quarterback who is sitting behind Brady and learning. Now if the bucs can’t develop him will it be fair to blame him or the coaching staff ??? The one thing I do know is BA never developed a quarterback on his own and it seems that the quarterback gets better when he leaves. And don’t tell me about Pittsburgh because him and the head coach didn’t get a long because he would veto his pass play and call a run play. And we all know how great Pittsburgh defense was and their running game.
June 12th, 2021 at 5:55 pm
Cobraboy and Tom Brady got caught cheating as well but you ok with that right lol πππ€£π ? You your so call moral views always contradict your own statements. Lol ππ€£π and by the way Brady is your god you are the one of his worshipers. I told yall I will always defend the bucs. I will never let yall treat the superbowl win like the Patriots has done their’s. They down play all those great players like Ty Law , Teddy Bruschi, Mcginest , and others that help that team win championships that some of yall don’t even know. I will always represent the bucs as a team not one player.
June 12th, 2021 at 6:28 pm
Stafford will have to show me this season, I think he’s a loser.
June 12th, 2021 at 7:12 pm
ONeilBuc – I thought my post was fair. Jameis has a chance to have a better career than Fitzpatrick and is ending up with a better coach this year than typically most in the NFL.
Jameis certainly does not have a better career at this point thn Fitz. Jameis certainly is not on a path to make the HOF. Why are your panties all up in a bunch?
June 12th, 2021 at 8:20 pm
How is Jameis going to throw the Football? He thought his fingers were W’s and ate them all.
June 12th, 2021 at 8:53 pm
If Garafalo stays healthy, San Fran’s No.2 pick will only get in the game with gadget plays. If the team stays healthy, they’ll be in the NFC championship game. In the Kansas City super bowl 4th quarter, Shanahan got away from the running game which was their bread and butter all year. Mistake No.2. Mistake No.1 was not kicking the field goal with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter against New England in that Super Bowl. Falcons are on the Patriots 23 yard line, 1st and 10. Run the ball 3 times, force New England to use their time outs, kick the field goal and go up 2 scores.Shanahan’s Super Bowl 4th quarter decisions have not been good.
June 12th, 2021 at 10:04 pm
This is a anti Jamies site more than a bucs fan site yall can have all the Brady worshippers. The problem I have is yall can’t get over Jamies. Even when we win games yall bring Jamies up to bash the brother. Lol ππ€£π he hunts yall every day so yall hope he fails .
June 13th, 2021 at 6:50 pm
Oneilbuc seems you’re the one constantly bring up Winston. Face it, he sucks and it has nothing to do with his skin color! Y’all need to give it a break and no, some of us didn’t give a president a pass. Maybe y’all did?
June 13th, 2021 at 8:19 pm
Roger Goddell hired an investigative lawyer( last name Wells) who investigated deflategate for 4 months and issued a 236 page report. in the report Wells stated there was no video evidence of anyone deflating the footballs, nobody admitted deflating the balls, and due to the atmospheric conditions in Massachusetts in January the possibility that the cold weather caused 1 cubic milliliter of air to be out of the balls could not be ruled out. Brady was suspended 4 games because he would not hand over his personal cell phone to Emperor Goddell. Goddell is not the Dept. of Justice and has no subpoena power. Brady decided not to appeal to the Supreme Court. Back then Justice Ginsberg decided which cases would be heard or not and there was no guarantee an appeal would happen. Goddell hands out the fines and suspensions to the players and when the players appeal Goddell is then the Judge who decides whether his fines and suspensions should be upheld. The Lawyers for The NFL players association made a huge error letting this happen.