Weak Arm? Baloney, Says New Bucs QB Kyle Trask
May 1st, 2021
Bucs QB Kyle Trask.
Unless you actually want a 6-5, 211-pound dude in peak physical health to square up on you, don’t mention to new Bucs quarterback Kyle Trask he’s got a weak arm.
It seems in #NFLDraftMedia, the knock on Trask was that he lacked arm strength. Trask was asked about that last night in his welcome-to-Tampa Zoom press conference with the Tampa Bay pen and mic club. And you could tell the knock unsettled him.
“I think I have shown on film I can make every single throw on the field,” Trask said. “I don’t think arm strength is necessarily a huge weakness of mine but I am always looking to get better. …
“I think I have plenty of arm strength to make all the throws that there are to make in the NFL.”
Clearly, Trask will be tested, likely as soon as two weeks when the Bucs are expected to have a rookie minicamp.
So Joe guesses that critique on Trask can be put to bed. Look, if the Bucs thought he had a weak arm, would they have drafted him in the second round?
May 1st, 2021 at 5:28 am
Arians said in his press interview about Trask that he can make all the throws in the Bucs Offense.
You’re correct… if he truly had a weak arm they wouldn’t have drafted him.
Trask clearly focused on his ACCURACY during his development so far. You’re not going to be super accurate if you’re trying to sling it as hard as you can.
It’s like pro golfers. They can all hit their drivers much farther than they do in tournaments, but they swing at about 80% to not only have decent distance but to have more accuracy.
Kyle Trask is an 80% thrower the same way. I’m sure he can throw it harder if he really wanted to but he’d be sacrificing accuracy and many draft analysts have said he’s probably the most accurate passer of all the prospects this year.
As long as he can make all the throws, accuracy is the name of the game.
You don’t throw so few INTs unless you’re accurate as well as smart with the ball.
May 1st, 2021 at 6:07 am
The kid is not very mobile. His arm isn’t the strongest. He is not the highest rated QB in the draft…mayb 4th or 5th round. Sure, he is intelligent and accurate, and is persistent, but how far will that go.
>>>>>> A lot like Tom Brady if you ask me! I LOVE this pick!
May 1st, 2021 at 6:22 am
Drew Brees threw for 8 billion yards with a weak arm.
May 1st, 2021 at 6:23 am
Did the scouts or media who wrote that crap actually watch the kid play? It’s on tape, losers. You get paid to learn your craft. A bunch of Stephen A. Smiths.
May 1st, 2021 at 6:25 am
I watch every Gators game. There’s something special about Trask. The offense just clicked when he took over. He can make every throw. He has made it look easy against tough competition. Mac Jones got all the hype because he plays on Bama, but Kyle played just as well. If it weren’t for a bowl game in which most of his team opted out, he would have been in the first round discussion. Learning behind Brady, I could see Trask continuing the dynasty in a 2-3 years. GO BUCS
May 1st, 2021 at 6:28 am
I really like the Bucs picking up Kyle Trask. He’s already shown that he’s patient, smart, accurate and most of all willing to learn and he’s not one bit cocky. I also believe he’ll go down as probably the best QB out of the draft. If you don’t agree read up on him the more I read the more I was convinced he’s a steal 🏆
May 1st, 2021 at 6:28 am
Joe, you guys are killing with all the GMs and coaches that peruse your site.
May 1st, 2021 at 6:32 am
Brady didn’t impress many either. He was 6’ 4” and 211 pounds at the NFL scouting combine with a 5.24-second 40-yard dash, vertical jump of 24 ½ inches. More than dozen OL prospects ran faster and jumped higher than. Brady lacked great physical stature and strength, didn’t have strong arm, couldn’t push the ball far downfield, couldn’t throw a tight spiral, and was knocked down easily.
I’m not saying Trask is the next Brady, but he couldn’t be in a better place, with a better team of mentors. Arians and Brady alone is superb enough. I am an old school guy on football in that I have never coveted a QB who was extremely mobile and fast. I’ve always preferred guys who made good decisions and who were accurate. They also seem to hold up better over time.
With all the swirl, Arians acted on what many already suspected for years…dump Jameis Winston. The fact he is bold enough to speak up for Trask means he clearly sees something, and it will be a lot of fun watching Trask develop under Brady and Arians (I am not big on BL but it is very helpful he played QB in the NFL). I can’t help but imagine Trask and Brady will be having a BBQ and tossing the ball around in the next few weeks. This is a perfect situation. He will not be a threat to Brady at all and we know Brady loves to coach his guys up.
So far, this draft could not have gone better for the Bucs. I am totally ignoring all the guff about Trask.
May 1st, 2021 at 6:51 am
This organization is making good decisions at the right times. I love how we cleaned out the losing culture.
May 1st, 2021 at 6:58 am
I dont like this pick. A project QB doesnt help maximize Brady’s window.
I also dont understand the narrative with the selection. All people are talking about is the perfect situation where he gets to get coached up by Arians, who never developed a young project QB, and he gets to sit and learn behind the GOAT.
Brady has been in the GOAT conversation for what? 15 years? Yet none of the QBs that were behind him in NE have ever amounted to anything. Jimmy G is the best one and he is maybe a Top 20 QB at best…
Jason Licht and co has earned the trust of us fans so im going to go ahead and believe it will work out, but I dont see any reason for optimism with this pick
May 1st, 2021 at 7:00 am
With all that said in my previous comment, the beauty of returning an entire SB roster gives them the luxury of making this pick. So I guess its not the worst thing in the world. Would have just liked to see them build depth at other positions than a QB
May 1st, 2021 at 7:01 am
Jameis had a very strong arm….
May 1st, 2021 at 7:12 am
Yeah. And Brady has a weak arm, too. Noodle arm, was it? 😂🤣
May 1st, 2021 at 7:20 am
Bradybucs, buczilla and tampabaybucfan
All great and funny points. We have some knowledgeable posters on this site
May 1st, 2021 at 7:23 am
I thought we were using the term “arm talent” instead of arm strength nowadays.
May 1st, 2021 at 7:29 am
JaMarcus Russell had a cannon….
May 1st, 2021 at 7:33 am
Its weird…posters have demanded we bring in a qb to develop behind the goat
Obviously we cannot take a guy in the top 10-15 picks where you find most starters. We just won a super bowl. And who wants to move up to draft a qb in the first round to piss off their legendary qb (aaron rodgers anyone) But we take one in second round (last pick) at a time when we have later picks that wont make this fantasy filled team
And now people are bitching about this qb the team wants to develop for the future?
Again …i am mixed about it. My bro went to Florida and he even thinks it was a mistake for second round with so many good players out there
But people are so angry over these picks when ….i mean …have you seen this team from top to bottom. Its filthy
May 1st, 2021 at 7:36 am
@BradyBucs,
Couldn’t have said it any better. Spot on. Give the kid a chance in QB U, he has the best job learning from Brady.
May 1st, 2021 at 7:36 am
And if you noticed …2 qbs went next in start if third…bucs could have set this off of course…but beginning of third is likely where this qb run would go
So they got him as last pick of second round
The guy they wanted
May 1st, 2021 at 7:37 am
Which QB would you want to be after the draft, Trask or Lawrence? Lawrence is going into the Lions den with the Jags. We will see. Trask is coming to the Playboy mansion hahahaha
May 1st, 2021 at 7:48 am
Trask isn’t 211 lbs… and 6’5 211 lb beanpoles are far from scary. Trask is 232 and listed at 240.
May 1st, 2021 at 7:48 am
So the successor to weenie armed Tom Brady is going to be weenie armed Kyle Trask? I’m good with that. Besides after a few months of rubber band workouts and avacado ice cream he’ll be throwing the ball out of the stadium.
May 1st, 2021 at 7:57 am
I agree, they talked this week on NFL shows that there were serious interest in Trask. They couldn’t wait until late 3 rd, the QbB run would have already started. You guys need to understand no one in this draft will start unless injury, and late picks might not even make the team. We are drafting future starters, Tryon 2-3 years out, same with Trask.
May 1st, 2021 at 8:08 am
Jason
That was seriously funny! Nice to see everyone having Trask’s back this morning after having to endure all the negative eggs last night
May 1st, 2021 at 8:48 am
Jason, you had me looking for the like button on that one. Also the arm talent comment.
May 1st, 2021 at 9:34 am
Task is going to be a starter in this league. Wait , watch and see.
May 1st, 2021 at 9:35 am
Trask. Lol. damn spell check
May 1st, 2021 at 10:02 am
This is fun. I love the pick. Ive heard traditional pocket passers are dying breed since Randall Cunningham.
A great athlete doesn’t always equate to a great qb.
Our offense won’t have to change one thing for Griff or Trask if they have to go in. How miserable do offenses play when they have to adjust. No bueno…
This kid is gonna be Great!
In BA I Trust!
May 1st, 2021 at 11:09 am
Yeah we drafted Trask. Still hope we take a flyer on Zach Thomas out of APP State.
May 1st, 2021 at 11:10 am
He looks like a career backup. For a 2nd round pick. Mond and Mills both looked like bigger upside guys to me. We won a SB with Bruce Arians’ philosophy, but I honestly don’t think drafting QBs who can’t run a little are worth drafting anymore.
May 1st, 2021 at 12:39 pm
Accuracy and decision-making and processing are traits that Trask has. Everything else will fall in line. He has as good a chance as any QB to excel. Trask is being brought into an awesome QB incubator in the NFL.
ACCURACY is the biggest thing, everything else does not matter if you cannot hit the broadside of a barn. GO BUCS!!!!!
May 1st, 2021 at 2:58 pm
It’s not necessarily arm strength, it’s driving the ball downfield. He can throw 50 yards – but they’re rainbows that hang in the air. At the NFL level you have to have zip on the ball, including downfield. His college highlights show him as your typical college touch passer who just floats balls out there with good accuracy- but in the NFL, those are INTs.
But I agree, the Bucs know this, it’s not like my take is original or anything. Also his pro day showed more of an average NFL arm, and that to me is good enough – not that anyone was seeking my approval. If he can keep His accuracy while adding velocity then he should be in good shape.
May 1st, 2021 at 3:12 pm
Windbaggery,
Can’t run a little? You obviously haven’t seen all the tape on Trask. The Gators often called QB DRAW plays and Trask would RUN THE BALL right up the middle on soft defenses.
He can run when he has to and he’s big enough and strong enough (I.e. not brittle like some QBs) to gain some yardage while being hit.
Trask is definitely no Lamar Jackson or Mahomes where he can burn you for big yards with his feet, but he’s not as bad as Big Ben or other true statue QBs (even Brady). Trask can scramble for yards when he needs to.
May 1st, 2021 at 3:19 pm
Rod,
You’re overstating this ‘drive the ball downfield’ nonsense because you apparently read it in some scouting report/mock draft info.
The deep Brady passes to Scotty Miller in the Raiders & Packers games last season are the same throws that Trask can make.
Trask is also a young guy. He can improve his mechanics & strength working with the best at the Pro level. He can gain some velocity (or different arch throws) if it’s needed.
Trask has tremendous UPSIDE. It’s far easier to train somehow and improve their body and core mechanics (I.e. increase velocity/arch) than it is to teach someone to be MORE ACCURATE with their throws or read Defenses better.
Not to pick on him, but just look at Jameis Winston’s 5+ year Pro development. Cannon for an arm but his accuracy never really improved, nor did his reading of Defenses and decision-making.
Trask is the opposite. His accuracy, reading defenses, and decision-making is OFF THE CHARTS. Trask has incredible FIELD VISION. Those intangibles are not easily taught.
May 1st, 2021 at 3:46 pm
@Joeypoppems
I agree that it’s definitely a luxury pick. But I will disagree with you on Arians and his development of young Qbs. He coaches Peyton Manning from 1998(rookie year) to 2000. That being said. Manning made the pro bowl in 99 and 00.
May 2nd, 2021 at 8:18 am
2nd Round pick! 2nd Round pick! Wasted a 2nd Round pick!
Geez people it was the LAST pick in the 2nd. If it makes you feel better call it the pre-1st pick of the third round. If all the other QBs taken in the third were that much better someone would have taken them earlier.
Could he be that much worse than Gabbert or career QB Griffin? It’s all upside from here on a cheap Rookie contract. R-E-L-A-X.
May 2nd, 2021 at 2:48 pm
Sure reminds us old dudes of Brad Johnson.
May 2nd, 2021 at 10:21 pm
Arm strength… That is the biggest mistake people get drawn to when drafting a quarterback.
Can you read a defense?
Can you process the information fast?
Can he be accurate?
If you can do those things you don’t need “arm strength.” They more than makes up for it. Was Peyton Manning‘s arm strong? Is Brady‘s strong? No.
If you read the defense and process the stuff fast enough you’re a step ahead. I’ll take that all day every day over a strong arm
JaMarcus Russell and Ryan leaf had awesome arm strength. Jeff Georgia Great arm strength, I never saw a receiver he couldn’t overthrow. LoL.
May 3rd, 2021 at 5:38 am
BradyBucs – No, what I read was he lacked velocity, from multiple reports. So then I went and watched film, including your recommendation. What I saw, based on the game film, was a few plays that looked like NFL throws, but mostly college junk passes, stuff that Matt Grothe was doing at USF. However, as I pointed out to you, I was pointing out how I didn’t like those, but also pointing out that the passes were complete and I’m not sure why he’d have thrown it differently when it was working. Finally as I told you, I watched his pro-day film, and came away with a better impressive of him – he was throwing some NFL balls at his pro-day, nothing special, but at least they were NFL throws. Also what I said the entire time is that the Bucs know those college touch passes aren’t going to work in the NFL, and they’ve already shot down comments on his arm, so it’s not like what I’m saying is coming from nothing, it’s on the game tape for anyone to see, assuming they know the difference between college and NFL tape.
May 4th, 2021 at 7:14 pm
Dont get the lacks mobility knock on any of these guys
guys, they can move when they need to.Russell Wilson gets called mobile yet was one of the highest sacked QBs in the league and they always blame the line for his poor play yet praise him for his mobility.it makes no sense….Brady is mobile.when he needs.to be,pocket qbs typically will throw it away or incomplete rather than chance taking a loss on a sack