Bruce Arians Talks Jameis: “You Have To Set The Personal Aside”
May 9th, 2021
A little over a year ago, Bucco Bruce Arians was selling Bucs fans on the fact his team was just one player away.
Eliminate so many needless turnovers from the quarterback position and great things will come.
Joe believed it was a little bit of an oversell, a little too much #BlameJameis.
Last week on The National Football Show, Arians was asked about whether it was rough on him personally to give up on America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
”It was really hard,” Arians said, noting how long he had known Jameis and what a hard worker he is.
”Yeah, it was [hard]. I wanted to see him succeed. But like you said, there’s 52 other guys on the roster. You know, you look and see what’s behind Door No. 2 at every position in the offseason. Does it make you better? Then you have to set the personal aside. I mean our players, our locker room still loves Jameis, [the guys] that played with him, and have all the respect in the world and wish him well. But when Tom became available, it was the missing ingredient for us to win a Super Bowl.”
Joe finds Arians’ answer extra intriguing because of the Door No. 2 line. Did the Bucs really do that this offseason? And if they did, did they determine they had/have a nearly perfect roster?
It’s still amazing that Jameis was pinned for nearly everything that led the team to a 7-9 record in 2019, and it turned out to be on the money, culminating in a dominant Super Bowl win.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:06 pm
BA ” Your a reat guy, But your football Su*ks” How many times have we heard BA say that when talking about how he talks to players. Throw out the personal side and just be real. GO BUCS!!!
May 9th, 2021 at 12:14 pm
BA only had to endure one year of what JL tried to wish he wasn’t seeing and hoping that the glass was half full !
At the end of the day it worked out for the best. If the Bucs had gone in another direction Brady may have never been an option.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:16 pm
I for one dont care for the “one player away” line. That implys Brady changed everything…..Which on the surface is fair but I think its a bit of a slap in the face to how big of a part Gronk was for this team.
I dont think Tom comes in here and does it without Gronkowski.
I also think its unfair to trash Winston because is not as good of a QB as Tom Brady…….The Bucs did the right thing. We had such a talented team that was good enough to attract a truely great QB…..There really was no decision to be made. You get the great QB if you have the chance. Not debatable…….And I always liked Winston but its too bad. We had a team good enough to win a SuperBowl. The Bucs owed it to their fans to go get Brady when they had the chance. Im sorry Winston could not take us as far as Brady could…..But thats barely a critism. Hes not as good as Brady….who is?
May 9th, 2021 at 12:19 pm
You can’t overlook the horrible image that Jameis Winston projected…..face of the franchise….his off-field behavior was harmful to the image of the Bucs. The only way to mitigate that would have been a stellar performance on the field which didn’t happen.
With Brady, we have both….a winner on and off the field. what a difference!!!
May 9th, 2021 at 12:26 pm
Like I’ve previously said before everyone in the organization knew what the main problem was in 2019 let’s just be realistic. Jameis is a good guy everybody likes him as a person. But as 1 of 53 on a team jobs are always on the line and there’s a thin line between wins/losses. The Bucs made the right decision there is no debate.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:30 pm
Hey and just make sure to enjoy these last few months of offseason while we sit as Champions.
Last year was the perfect scenario for a fanbase that did nothing but fight and argue about Winston for 5 full years. He was set as a backup and barely never saw the field. The arguing about Winston had nowhere to go but fizzle out as he was a complete nonfactor.
This year will not be the same way. Winston will be playing again so yall better be prepared to have have every win he gets thrown right back in our faces. It will be annoying. And he is in the same division so it will be personal………But stand tall Bucs fans. Just remember when all the chips are down it will come down to Brady vs Winston…..I know who I like to come out on top.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:32 pm
Brady>Winston
Gronk>Brate/Howard
Wirfs>Dotson
Fournette>Barber
Winfield Jr>Adams
Dean>Hargreaves
Stinnie>Watford
Miller>Bobo
Succop>Gay
Lots of player changes made this SB team
Brady, however, to quote Reggie Jackson, was the “straw that stirs the drink”.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:36 pm
I liked Jameis. He was exciting to watch. He however seemed to be his own worst enemy in many ways. I have not seen one endorsement willing to link their name to him. A number one overall draft pick yet no endorsements. Poor decision making both on or off the field. What’s the one word that he definitely needs to heed? Maturity!
May 9th, 2021 at 12:38 pm
Jameis HAD to go bcuz everyone had PTSD from his interceptions (the defensive players must’ve been LIVID). It was a no brainer to move on
. A Chimpanzee or a hillbilly could’ve made that decision
May 9th, 2021 at 12:41 pm
The Brady Effect can not be understated!
Not only is he the GOAT, but just his presence elevates the play of all around him.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:42 pm
Yet…..he’s still has the monikers Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro-Bowler…..Jameis Winston….almost cruel to portray him that way….certainly laughable.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:43 pm
Winston failed himself, simple as that.
“Check yo’ sheets, I’m ballin'” was what made my heart go from cold to frozen.
Incredible lack of self-awareness and focus on self, and not team.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:45 pm
Jameis has a strong arm and could make almost every throw in the NFL but like Licht said, he was looking for a QBs who were impressive “above the neck.” Obviously Jameis did not have this quality. In fact, he most likely was the reason why the Bucs chose brains over being gifted physically in this and all future drafts.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:47 pm
Another day, another JBF article slandering Jameis. Whatever pays the bills, I guess. Notice how every Jameis column gets 10x the traction that any other article receives? At this point, they don’t have a choice.
Its sad, really. JW has shouldered the blame for every shortcoming this team had. The fact JBF is STILL peddling the “we were a qb away in 2019” is hilarious. We saw Brady with a below average supporting cast in 2019.. he looked terrible. When the 2020 Bucs struggled and underperformed, it was mostly because of Brady. When we were overperforming in the playoffs, it was Bowles and the defense carrying us. Bradys stature did more for us in the playoffs than his arm. Anyway, back to the Jameis lynch mob. Didn’t mean to interrupt.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:51 pm
Lol lol… better get your dictionary out and look up “slander “
Come back with a proper word …
Perfect example of why the jury system should scare the crap out of everyone!
Too many loinfomofo’z
May 9th, 2021 at 12:53 pm
Look in the franchise record book for QBs. Jamie’s Winston is either number one or number two in every category. The single season record for interceptions is 35 and it doesn’t belong to Jameis. For five seasons he was just about the only thing we had to brag about. As for the one and only incident as a Buc with the Uber driver, nobody knows for certain what he did or even if he did anything at all. He could have just grabbed her boob, and you tell me how many of aren’t guilty of that without being intoxicated as an excuse. Bad coaches and poor talent played it’s part in the Bucs’ record. Jameis contributed, but it’s hardly all on him.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:55 pm
A team CAN’T have the number of turnovers he generated and be successful. Having said THAT, a competent kicker would have put the Bucs at 9-7 instead of 7-9 in 2019, but that’s the ceiling with JW at qb.
May 9th, 2021 at 12:59 pm
Jameis had character issues before he arrived and they continued , he lied too.
Jameis had on field issues in college, INT’s , fumbles, and boneheaded plays and they continued … he lied too
Not everyone @ JBF wanted him drafted making it painful from his first to last pass in Pewter and Red !!!!!
May 9th, 2021 at 12:59 pm
The bigger bummer is the eagles offered us 3 first round picks to trade up….
The rest is history as they say
May 9th, 2021 at 1:00 pm
Sb u still owe me a jersey
May 9th, 2021 at 1:02 pm
7-7 and the final 2 games at home. He didn’t have Evans or Godwin and he was still making plays. The interceptions doomed him in the end. It got to the point where every time he dropped back you had the same feeling as when attempting a FG, you just didn’t what was going to happen.
May 9th, 2021 at 1:09 pm
way way too much time spent with jameis winston on our team!
Respect Bruce Arians for pulling the trigger to jettison this guy. Hope jameis quarterbacks the saints. Love to see JPP and Shaq take his clown ass down. Aint nothing good bout the saints!
May 9th, 2021 at 1:12 pm
Destin … you got the wrong guy
and first I ever heard of the Eagles offering 3 first round picks… whatcha smoking Vern ?
May 9th, 2021 at 1:26 pm
Don’t be an idiot Jimmy Jack. No one is going to throw anything Jameis does in fans faces. Wins? Why? You mean all 7 like he had here, that could have been more? The debate over Winston was five years is what is supposed to happen. It did. He left, they won the SB. Seems like you and the one Joe are the only ones still thinking anything about Winston matters. Get a clue!
May 9th, 2021 at 1:29 pm
Anyone who is still sitting here wondering what might have been with five years of Winston in front of them, his issues at FUS with turnovers, and the fact no one wanted to touch him with a starting gig is just a fool, plain and simple. It’s a team game and Winston couldn’t lead the team, much less do his own part. He’s gone. thank God!
May 9th, 2021 at 1:44 pm
Been kicking over rocks for a year, so far no Ndog!
Lowest of the low, run back up smack for 5 years and when you lose you run and hide… two peas in a pod
May 9th, 2021 at 1:59 pm
Pennytoshaq
Aka orlando buc ? One of the cult members
Brady did not hAve supporting cast in 2019 and” looked horrible” 😂
Thats the most horrible
12-4 season i have ever seen
Great points though. 😂
You cant stop thinking about those jublies
May 9th, 2021 at 2:06 pm
“Joe finds Arians’ answer extra intriguing because of the Door No. 2 line. Did the Bucs really do that this offseason?”
Of course they did. That is why Trask was brought in to replace that decrepit starting QB!
May 9th, 2021 at 2:09 pm
There are still people around that, even after witnessing 2020, would prefer JaMiss or say that JaMiss got a raw deal?
I just re-watched some 2018 and 2019 games. Filled a vomit bag. For every great play, there was an equally boneheaded play to offset it. And the 30 that JaMiss threw in 2019 could have been 40 if the opposing DBs could actually catch like an average DB. What a crock.
If they stuck with JaMiss, then Suh, JPP, LVD, and Shaq would have all said “Adios” to the Bucs. Stevie wouldn’t have signed. Doubtful Minter and Nacho would have re-signed. On offense, no Gronk, no AB, no Lenny.
It will be comical to see the excuses after JaMiss flames out in New Orleans.
May 9th, 2021 at 2:10 pm
Brady taught this time team how to win. He was more valuable for the attitude he brought to the team than his actual skill. That’s what makes him a winner. That’s what we needed.
May 9th, 2021 at 2:15 pm
Does anyone has a list of Bucs who should make the pro bowl in 2021? That should be a proxy for Joe’s question
May 9th, 2021 at 2:26 pm
Brady is what kept free agents and brought others in. Jason Licht drafting Wirfs for the last couple seasons also filled major voids with players that excelled in this environment. Jamiss was a dead end street and the Saints will soon see this too. They tried to sell football smarts with Winston from day 1 because every time he opened his mouth an idiot popped out of it.
May 9th, 2021 at 2:26 pm
Roy T. Nothing about Winston does matter. But when the Calendar rolls around to October it will be a different story.
Now maybe Winston starts out 0-5 and Tanpa Bay fans are still laughing at Winston. Or maybe Winston and the Saints proove to be our biggest hurdle to winning the division……If that happens, yes i think trolls will be out in full force on Joes website. Ive saw it happen before over lesser(Trask for example).
And in mine own opinion Im expecting the Saints to give us a great fight/great games this year. We can all have our opinions how good or bad the Saints will be but for my money I just dont see them being a team that gonna simply hand over the division to us since we beat them and crushed their dreams….To me the Saints seem like the type of team thats been raving mad for the last 4 months and only gonna get madder over the summer. They arent gonna make it easy.
May 9th, 2021 at 2:31 pm
With winning and excellent QB play for a decade being the Saint’s “norm”, how fast will the faithful bail when Winston does typically dumb-a$$ Winston things on the field. Or off the field.
Will they check his sheets?
May 9th, 2021 at 2:49 pm
Tom is the goat but dont lay everything on Winston. They traded or moved on from at least 10 other players. Winston threw 50 TDs. Why? Because we couldn’t run the damn ball and if we could’ve he wouldn’t have thrown 50
interceptions. And his own receivers said if the 50 maybe maybe maybe 10 were Winstons fault. Blame the rest on receivers because they did. I’m telling you now, Jameis will start at NO this year and he’ll be in the playoffs. Maybe we’ll see then.
May 9th, 2021 at 3:00 pm
Payton WILL not put up with Jameis is as Jameis does . Believe me Payton already is planning on the worst case scenario with Jameis and the hook will be Swift and final . Book
the rookie draft pick QB will be getting the advanced Shaun Payton QB school!
May 9th, 2021 at 3:05 pm
Lol , Joe’s put up anything Jameis/ QB related and can go out and enjoy the afternoon off and the one story will get the whole site occupied 🤑🤑🤑
May 9th, 2021 at 3:20 pm
What Brady did relates to much more than the (considerable) difference in talent level between himself and Winston. He was personally responsible for bringing in Gronk, for bringing in Antonio, for bringing in Lenny, for changing the face of the offense by pushing for more play-action, more screens, more quick outs to his backs. and most definitely for showing everyone on both sides of the ball what it takes to win. His overall influence in one short season was so historic and all consuming that it gave rise to public outcries from other great quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson for greater influence in their team’s organizational decisions which has now been given a name by the media – “The Brady Effect”.
May 9th, 2021 at 3:31 pm
Effect or Affect?
🤓
May 9th, 2021 at 3:32 pm
Jameis talk has traction because we all know the phenomenon is not over. This kid is going to be spectacular whether its success or failure. He only knows one speed. I cant say which it will be, but I have enjoyed watching him experience both in the past, and I think this is a story that will keep its legs as this team competes against him over the years. Looking forward to see it playing out.
May 9th, 2021 at 3:34 pm
The young secondary and Devin White took the next step in their development. Improved adding Winfield. Improved OL adding Wirfs. Improved the kicking game. To pin it all on Jameis was and still is unfair.
May 9th, 2021 at 3:37 pm
The young secondary and Devin White took the next step in their development and improved it drafting Winfield. Improved OL drafting Wirfs. Improved kicking game. Improved running game. To pin it all on Jameis was and still is unfair
May 9th, 2021 at 3:50 pm
All this back and forth….Winston turned the ball over way too much and at the most critical times. That’s why he is no longer a Buc. It really is that simple. NFL is all about the turnover margin, that has been the case throughout all of the innovations and changes over the decades. Win the turnover margin and you will win 70% of your games. If he can learn how to take care of the ball, (throw it away, eat a sack, take the check down, it’s ok to punt, etc) he can be a winning QB. He has all the physical tools, just has to work on that mental part of the game.
May 9th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
The same thing will happen to Trask if they do what they did to Jamies. They gave Brady everything they didn’t give to Jamies. To say this is the same team from last year is just crazy and not true. They gave Brady a running game that they didn’t give Jamies. They changed the playbook for Brady and they didn’t do it for Jamies. Plus he came to a team that never developed a quarterback and they missed on the entire we 2016 class .
May 9th, 2021 at 4:24 pm
1sparky,
JayMiss holds all the franchise records…… blah blah blah.
What is our all-time win percentage?
Kinda like being the smartest kid in the “slow” class ain’t it?
May 9th, 2021 at 4:35 pm
Winston has spent his entire life as a QB. Why would anyone expect him to do a sudden turnaround of not turning the ball over and making dumb-a$$ decisions on and off the field after an entire career of doing so?
It is baked into his cake.
May 9th, 2021 at 4:39 pm
I was open to us bringing Jameis back, mostly because I just wanted us to end the Doug Williams curse of having never resigned a drafted QB to a 2nd contract. Plus I always fell on the “Jameis is more good than bad” side of the debate and genuinely believed he would do much better in 2nd year inside BA’s scheme.
However, the second I heard that Tom Brady actually wanted to come to Tampa I was all in on the Brady train. I had watched his highlights from the 2019 season when Bruce Arians said he was potentially the guy behind door number 2, and the naysayers were out in full force saying that Brady had a noodle arm, And I saw a guy who could still sling the rock at an elite level but was playing with nobodies at receiver.
And when we signed him I told everyone in my life that would listen that Bucs were going to become the 1st ever team to win the Super Bowl at home. And I’m just as confident now as I was then that we’re going to go for 2!
Go Bucs!
May 9th, 2021 at 4:40 pm
JBF was so pro Jameis that they couldn’t see that it was Jameis that was holding the team back. I contend that if we had had Brady in 2019 we would’ve done better that season as well. We wasted too much time trying to bottle feed him. We should’ve made the move away from Jameis a lot sooner. Licht should have never extended him.
May 9th, 2021 at 4:43 pm
People want to point to Jamis’nunbers but fail to realize large part of that was because he put them in losing positions most of the time with picks or fumbles…no one can honestly say he wasnt given opportunity to succeed. He was given 5 seasons and numerous coaching changes, bringing in players….and Brady was the difference zhe influenced bringing in better players and helped on both sides if the ball with his experience. Mahommes wouldn’t have had th4 impact Brady did
May 9th, 2021 at 4:46 pm
Colonel Angus lmao! Great name. And I’d say the reason people believe that is because of the year that Jameis had at FSU when he won the heisman and national championship. That year he threw for 4,057 yards 40 TD’s 10 Ints, and apparently before that he had never lost a game in highschool or something crazy like that. And like him, hate him or be otherwise disinterested in him the kid is really talented. But he began to unravel at the seams after that season.
I actually think part of the reason why Jameis failed to live up to his potential in the pro game is because he experienced to much success too soon and began to think he could do no wrong. Perhaps all the turmoil he’s experienced will eventually put him back on that track.
Me personally I hope that doesn’t happen at any point while he wears a Saints uniform. I can’t stand that team.
May 9th, 2021 at 4:52 pm
Whoops, I was responding to what Cobraboy had said but thought it was Colonel Angus who said it. Oh well. It’s still a great name.
Colonel Angus is a cunning linguist.
May 9th, 2021 at 4:53 pm
Whoops, I was responding to what Cobraboy had said but thought it was Colonel Angus who said it. Oh well. It’s still a great name.
May 9th, 2021 at 4:58 pm
…image = 1000 words
that picture tells you how much we sucked just a year a go, with ALL the coaching staff, and what TB12 did to this team and us.
TB=TB12
May 9th, 2021 at 5:18 pm
You’re spot on DingleBerry; Jameis was a victim of his own success. And the Bucs (fans, coaches and management) made the huge mistake of pandering to his swollen ego. When Jameis got up the night he was drafted and told the world “we’re going to the Superbowl”, they should have told him “Sit down, shut up, watch and listen.” But they didn’t…
May 9th, 2021 at 5:36 pm
You’re wrong.
May 9th, 2021 at 5:42 pm
I hope the door knob hit him on the way out. The college and uber issues with females and the infamous crablegs the rest of the country thought we just had no morals even picking him.
May 9th, 2021 at 5:58 pm
The secondary and Devin White took the new step in their development and improved it drafting Winfield. Improved OL drafting Wirfs. Improved the kicking game. Improved the running game. To pin everything on Jameis was ridiculous then and still is now.
May 9th, 2021 at 6:03 pm
You better check your sheet!!!
May 9th, 2021 at 6:06 pm
The statement meant one player away from becoming a winning franchise and a couple away from winning a Superbowl.
May 9th, 2021 at 6:13 pm
If Winston fails in Nawlins, don’t be shocked if rumors swirl that Drew Brees wants to make a comeback in 2022. Never say never. A year away from the game could help his body and his mental state.
For all the distraction Drew created for himself before last season, the Saints had a good year. But, Mike Thomas was in diva mode. No idea what kind of Mike Thomas they’re gonna get in 2021.
Did anyone else read that the Panthers drafted the LSU WR at #59 cuz they heard that the Saints were gonna get him at #60? Love that boss move! LOL.
May 9th, 2021 at 6:13 pm
Jameis was just never mature enough for the position. Like other have said, his off the field behavior shiws that as well as his on field. He lost my respect the game in wwhere he purposely slapped an offensive opponents in the back of the helmet like a little 9yr old causing a fight between him & another defense bucs player. Both those players were reprimanded after that, ut he wasn’t even though he caused the altercation! And it was done just to be childish. That player did nothing to him. He was just close to the bucs sideline after a play. This is it how a QB Team Leader behaves. If this is how he acts I can only imagine how he carried himself with other players. They needed a mature leader for this team to keep the team focused on winning a SB. That’s what QB’s are meant to do.
May 9th, 2021 at 6:16 pm
Bbro,
The issues with women go back to high school.
May 9th, 2021 at 6:36 pm
Does anyone believe for a minute that Brady was NOT really the guy responsible for getting guys interested in joining the Bucs roster last year? Does anyone believe for a minute that Brady was NOT a huge reason so many came back this year? Every champ always talks about a repeat, right? We did the same thing in 2003 as the Bucs went back to PHI and trounced them again (before Dungy/Manning started their long fall due to guys’ styles like Jon Gruden and NOT having a guy like Brady on the roster). The one guy that can do a SB repeat is on the Bucs roster. If you are sitting in here in May concerned a single bit that Jameis Winston may be a problem, you clearly don’t know Jameis Winston, don’t get history, and don’t really understand what Brady brings. Winston is just another QB on another team. In fact, I’m thrilled he’s in the NFC South. He was the worst starting QB in the NFC South before as a Bucs. Now he’s not even a starting QB (at least yet), but I look forward to his starting for the Saints…no fear.
May 9th, 2021 at 6:40 pm
Dingleberry,
I believe you’re spot on about Winston having so much success early on.
2 points on that .
1, you never know how a player will react and respond when they face their first taste of adversity. Dealing with success has its own unique set of challenges as does adversity.
In Winston case, it would have been easy to predict how he would have handled success early with the bucs. The area were no one had any reference point to predict his behavior was if he struggled and the team lost.
2, Winston having a loyal group of hangerons and hype men is not a good indicator of an individual who has a solid character. He refused coaching and his support groupies always were in his ear to support Winston as he struggled with accepting responsibility.
The guy has talent that’s clear. But I wouldn’t bet on him to turnover a new leaf and begin to live up to his potential. Play great for short periods of time, certainly as hes demonstrated that often.
But sustained success is going to be elusive for him unless he’s able to change his mind on how he’s going to play the game , work in a disciplined manner on and off the field and fundamentally change his behavior. He’s not solid enough to lead men thru tough times.
I wish him well and hope for his own sake he’s able to change. As far as what he does game day with the saints, F him!
May 9th, 2021 at 6:41 pm
Lambchop. I just dont see that. Brady is older then Drew(i think) but there is a massive difference in how much more Tom has left in the tank. Tom can still sling the ball all over the field and is a constant threat to go for the biscuit……Everything that i have saw from Drew over the past two years(especially in the playoffs) says that he is totally done. Arm shot. He just arent got it no more…….Cant even remember thelast time i saw Drew even look to take a shot. Father Tine got him.
May 9th, 2021 at 7:37 pm
Oneilbuc Says:
May 9th, 2021 at 4:19 pm
The same thing will happen to Trask if they do what they did to Jamies. They gave Brady everything they didn’t give to Jamies. To say this is the same team from last year is just crazy and not true. They gave Brady a running game that they didn’t give Jamies. They changed the playbook for Brady and they didn’t do it for Jamies. Plus he came to a team that never developed a quarterback and they missed on the entire we 2016 class .
………..
Do you UnderStand that NONE of those new weapons would have come to play for us if Jameis was still the QB????????
No Gronk
No AB
No Lenny
No McCoy
………..
Suh wouldn’t re-sign.
I could go On and On but the Fact IS that “No Brady, no supporting cast that helped us win the SB”!
No FAs wanted to come to Tampa with JW2 at the Helm.
That is of the most certainties in the World
May 9th, 2021 at 7:55 pm
@SB. He will never get it.
May 9th, 2021 at 8:27 pm
Run gm blah blah blah they gave Brady this they gave Brady that. How about Brady gave the Bucs a real QB who doesn’t need excuses made for horrible accuracy poor pocket awareness and bad decision making!!!
May 9th, 2021 at 8:29 pm
You know all things that have nothing to do with defense and a run gm.
May 9th, 2021 at 8:35 pm
Jameis Winston?…. never heard of her.
WORLD CHAMPS 2020!!!
May 9th, 2021 at 8:55 pm
“Story is not finished…
2021 TB vs Saints will be must see tv
Brady didnt win with JW 2019 roster
Kobe thinks it will be a win win situation
Happy ending 4 all”
Kobe Faker
May 9th, 2021 at 8:58 pm
I would post all of my heated Jameass Winsnone comments but Joe doesn’t like em. He sometimes doesn’t post my rants on how utterly trashy Winsnone is. So I will do something different this time. When his sorry rear end gets on the field when the Bucs vs the Saints. I will be pulling for the D_line to manhandle his sorry ass and cause him to throw some of those infamous picks and drop some fumbles for us as a way to say “Thank you. So happy he is gone you really have no idea.
May 9th, 2021 at 8:58 pm
Winston had all the physical abilities to have a long and impressive career. In college he had impressive offensive weapons. He would just throw the ball up and his guy came down with it. The coaching carousel here definitely hurt him. Probably to the point he tuned out the coaches. Thinking you won’t be here next year. What do you know?
He just stared at the #1 receiver every play. I knew where the ball was going sitting at home! He had no look off. No pump fake. Telegraphed where the ball was going everytime. Not to mention he kept either his left or right foot back farther on run plays. To give him an extra push away from the center so he could turn and hand the ball off. Telegraphiing which side the run play is going. He gave the offensive line fits. He would randomly run out of a good pocket because his first read didn’t work out. Thinking he would extend a play that wasn’t broken. Also he COULDN’T SEE!! What kind of a franchise lets a QB play nearsighted. Come on! Seeing him squint looking at the scoreboard. Jesus. Anyone that thinks Winston is good. I digress.
May 9th, 2021 at 9:43 pm
The Bucs were very fortunate that Brady was available, there’s no need to compare Jaimes to the goat, but do you believe that Brady could of won the Super Bowl with the 2019 roster that Jaimes had?
May 9th, 2021 at 9:59 pm
When Jamess was good he was really good. But when he was bad he was horrible. He could make all the throws but too many where to the other team. Behavior issues dogged him from college to pros. From stuffing crab legs in his pants to fondling a Uber driver. Sadly there is short circuit in his decision making process both in football and out.
May 9th, 2021 at 10:02 pm
I still “LMAO” everytime I see a Jameis Apologist say “but they didn’t give him a running game!”
Sorry, but he had one. His first season. Martin was the 2nd leading rusher in the NFL with over 1,400 yards. Jameis led the team to a mighty SIX wins total. A running game isn’t what was missing for Jameis to succeed. He still threw 15 INTs to only 22 TDs and had a measily 58% completion rate. You’d think he would have lit people up with play action due to Martin’s massive season. Nope.
Oneilbucs – you really think they didn’t adjust the playbook for Jameis? LOL. Of course they did. That’s how football works. The problem is no matter what changes they made Jameis still made those same game-killing mistakes.
May 9th, 2021 at 10:03 pm
Bucluck,
Brady may not have won the SB with the exact same 2019 roster that Jameis had, but I can guarantee you he would have had more than 7 wins.
May 9th, 2021 at 11:09 pm
Again Jamies came to a team that never developed a quarterback. If they can’t developed Trask then who’s fault will it be Trask are the organization? Who are yall going to blame is the real question ? Again you can’t keep telling me it’s the quarterback fault. If they can’t develope Trask then it will be official that Tampa is the team were young quarterbacks careers come to die . And no one can tell me anything different.
May 9th, 2021 at 11:15 pm
Bradybuc how many times did the defense closed out games when they had to ??? Just 2019 what happened in the Gaints, Seahawks, and Falcons games? If defense would have stepped up like this pass year and the kicking game or the running game pick either one . The bucs would have been 10 and 6 but I know yall don’t like facts like that lol 😂🤣😆!! But just think in just those games they would have made the playoffs facts!!
May 9th, 2021 at 11:15 pm
Go look at the last two games of 2019.
RoJo ran the ball very well, almost 200 yards for the two games.
Defense played lights out.
Jameis lost both those games by himself. That’s why he lost his job. If he had just let the punter punt, the defense shine as they were, they would have won them both and Jameis likely would have been resigned.
But he didn’t – because he thinks I. Terms of big contract = big yards big plays big highlights. Not the team winning.
So many ignorants hanging onto the Jameis catchrag.
May 9th, 2021 at 11:27 pm
The only thing that slanders Jameis Winston are the idiots who call him a bust. Everything else he has given credence. Though he broke every passing record in Bucs history in just 5 years the man was too reckless and stubborn. You can’t teach someone to be smarter when they don’t want to be taught. Arians gave him all the rope and Jameis hung himself. Can’t blame no one but himself. We would not be world champions if he was still on this team. Without Brady, Gronk, Fournette and AB would’ve never came and JPP and Suh wouldn’t have resigned. Letting Winston walk was the 1st best decision Licht made signing Brady was his 2nd.
May 9th, 2021 at 11:37 pm
Kinda telling that every SB TD was scored by a player not on Bucs 2019 roster….
May 9th, 2021 at 11:43 pm
Meaning this – Brady as Goat may not have led Bucs to SB with same Bucs 2019 roster, absent of Gronk, AB & Lenny. Quoting Aaron Rogers – A beautiful mystery.
May 9th, 2021 at 11:56 pm
Penny 2,,, Brady had a horrible cast of receivers in 2019 but you know what he still made the playoffs with them,,,, no other QB could have made the playoffs let alone have a winning record with those receivers so how can you say was horrible in 2019
May 10th, 2021 at 12:04 am
Plus Brady started out 8 -0,,, I wouldn’t say he was horrible in 2019,,,, he had a horrible Supporting Cast but I wouldnt say it was horrible
May 10th, 2021 at 4:56 am
Brady had the number 1 defense that year NE-Buc ,..
May 10th, 2021 at 6:57 am
O’Neil buc,
A team’s defensive ranking, such as NE in 2019, is complimented by a QB who doesn’t turn the ball over like it it’s Halloween candy for trick or treat.
Our defense was better bc the turnover margin was better. Jameis does zero favors in the regard of turnover margin and ball security, which amplifies the pressure on everyone else to have less margin for error. Go Bucs!
May 10th, 2021 at 8:03 am
When is oneilbucs going to talk about things winston needs to get better at????? You know things that have nothing to do with run gm defense excuses?????
May 10th, 2021 at 8:11 am
I can’t wait for the season excuses can only last for so long. The field will put an end to all this. Yea right the excuses will never stop.
May 10th, 2021 at 8:29 am
People – we are champions, why waste time on Jameis???
May 10th, 2021 at 8:33 am
Can you imagine being Jameis this off-season? You play the most important position on the field, you’re the #1 overall pick. Your team subtracts you, adds a replacement — and the team goes from the toilet to Super Bowl champs…in one season. That cannot be a big confidence booster.
May 10th, 2021 at 8:42 am
Distribute the blame however you like. The important thing is he’s finally gone. Good riddance.
May 10th, 2021 at 9:12 am
BradyBucs, you’re basing your opinion based on the Goat being the best and I agree that he probably would of won more games . Jaimes was his own worst enemy on and off the field but he carried this team on his back,remember this defense sucked the kicking team sucked.
May 10th, 2021 at 10:40 am
From a total outsider who doesn’t even have a team anymore. Ty Kronke. This is total BS. Winston did everything he was told to do. No risk it no biscuit. You can spin it however you.want now but the fact is until Brady started playing the way he knows this team was going nowhere. He started checking down. And when the big play WAS open he went for it. Arians wants you to go down field all day every day. And that stuff don’t work in the NFL. it was the perfect combination once everyone got over themselves. Im curious to see how this plays out the next couple years. Bc someone Brady or Arians is gonna get a big head and try to force thier style and if that happens the bucs will collapse. It’s the little of both that got them what it did
May 10th, 2021 at 11:55 am
Bri if that’s the case winston been no risk it no biscuits. Because he lead the league in turnovers every year before BA got here just 🛑.
May 10th, 2021 at 11:57 am
And again he only had 5 ints over 20yds with BA coaching. It has nothing to do with throwing deep. Ever hear of accuracy and decision making?
May 10th, 2021 at 12:31 pm
As far as I’m concerned there’s only ONE reason Jameis isn’t on the team anymore…Jameis!!!
Not only was he turnover-prone, he lacked awareness. Without those two, let alone one, you will not be a successful QB.
Anyone who thinks that we’re not better off with Brady is not a Bucs fan! SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONS!
I can’t wait to beat the brakes off of the Saints!
May 10th, 2021 at 1:03 pm
simply put:
you are either a part of the problem or the answer and solution!
Winston was clearly a mega part of the problem…
Replace him and not only make the playoffs but make history by winning multiple on-the-road games to win the Super Bowl at Home…
Best decision Bucs made in team history!