NFL Schooled
April 30th, 2021
Joe is stoked about the Bucs getting an edge rusher. More to the point, this guy has an idea about NFL defenses.
Tyron played for Jimmy Lake, the Huskies head coach who prior to 2020 was Washington’s defensive coordinator. You may remember his name. He was a Bucs secondary coach under Monte Kiffin when Chucky coached the Bucs, and he was with Raheem Morris for two years, too.
Lake runs an NFL defense with multiple fronts. The fact Tyron excelled in an NFL-type defense is very good.
So here is what NFL folks told Bob McGinn of The Athletic about Tryon, who was No. 4 on McGinn’s big board for edge rushers.
4. Joe Tryon, Washington (6-foot-5, 259, 4.67, Round 1 or 2): A fourth-year junior who played only two seasons after redshirting in 2017 and opting out in 2020.
“Extremely well put together,” one scout said. “He’s going to be overdrafted for what he’s actually done in his career. Somebody will take a chance on the physical traits. He’s gifted. He had (12½) sacks the last time he was on a football field. Looks the part, but (Joseph) Ossai and (Ronnie) Perkins outplayed him.”
From Renton, Wash., Tryon played from multiple alignments in his 25-game, 14-start career.
“I don’t know if he’ll ever be a dominant sack guy, but I could see him having steady six, seven (sack) years with a 10 every blue moon if his technique improves,” said a second scout. “He’s big, long and can run. He’ll probably be a DPR (designated pass rusher) early. I don’t see dominant ability, so he probably has the best chance to bust.”
Finished with 61 tackles (14½ for loss) and nine sacks.
“Love this kid,” said a third scout. “He can bend. He can drop into coverage. He doesn’t have any speed-to-power move. He’ll get stalled. But his effort is undeniable. He’s a very determined football player.”
Joe cannot wait for Bucs defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers to get a hold of Tryon. Rodgers may be the best at coaching up rushers to get after the quarterback.
Between Bucs AC/DC-loving Jason Licht picking Tyron and Rodgers and defensive coordinator Todd Bowles coaching him up and Tyron learning from JPP and Shaq Barrett… friggin’ WOW!
April 30th, 2021 at 12:26 am
Excited here. Like winning the Super Bowl excited!
April 30th, 2021 at 12:26 am
Yeah – the bucs just draft a special teams player in the 1st round
April 30th, 2021 at 12:27 am
I’m not worried about the opt-out with Tryon…..keep in mind that Washington State is where the sickness began……they were all quite aware of the seriousness of it there.
I trust Bowles, BA & Licht on the character & talent issue..
We didn’t hesitate one second before picking him….that speaks volumes.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:28 am
Agree.
Turn him lose with coaches and jpp and shaq
Anthony nelson is boring
April 30th, 2021 at 12:32 am
@Aaron
I am sure all your game film watching of Washington last year in anticipation of the draft this year – you really have the appropriate assessment of this man over the Buc’s staff.
One question.
Are you related to Ndog, or Cleanhouse?
April 30th, 2021 at 12:33 am
@Aaron Tryon rates very high athletically. He doesnt need to start right a way. He is an upgrade over Nelson though. This was a good pick imo.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:35 am
not so true @Tampabaybucsfan :
like they say on the radio, we were “up against it”…
it was midnight and they had to end the show, at least on nfl network, which i was watching…
the nfl told tampa put the fuggin’ pick in right away, they announced it, rich eisen and crew reiterated it – and then they said goodnight…
they didn’t even really detail or discuss joe tryon…
they said goodnight because of money and tv time
April 30th, 2021 at 12:35 am
I’m excited by this p the most because Daniel Jeremiah projected this guy 21 to the colts. If anyone remembers DJ had mocked Kamara to us in the first when he came in the league. This may turn out to be one heck of a pick.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:39 am
Humm, I just read this from the Athletic scouting report…
‘He projects as a future NFL starter similar to Marcus Davenport when he
was coming out of college.’
That’s just mean.
Says he physically looks the part, has an action figure body and what you’d want to a pass rusher to look like, but only played 1-season, then sat out because he was scared of COVID. Then that line comparing him to Davenport. Ouch.
Also they add he ran a 4.65 40 at his pro-day, although I don’t know the surface and how it was timed, so it’s hard to make much of that number, but it’s a good number for 260lb.
Licht has more than earned his money lately so I’ll certainly defer to him, hopefully they nailed it. Sounds like he’s going to need a year or two to learn, which works out well since he should have at least a year to learn without needing to play all the time. As a rookie, I’d expect him to have a pretty limited role – hopefully that’s the case since it means Shaq and JPP have stayed healthy.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:39 am
It’s a solid pick, can never have too many Edge players, already built for NFL contact, no pressure to play and can develop under some of the best in the league, a physical freak at 6’5” 260-265 lbs w/ a 4.6 40, loves football, is physical and strong, tackles aggressive and w/ purpose, comes from a great program and familiarity, has PLENTY of room to grow, can move around the fronts if desired, good kid and addition to locker room, didn’t cost us draft capitol, moves good for his size down the line, etc.
Happy BDay Joe and our Front-7 is nasty!
April 30th, 2021 at 12:41 am
I think we should have drafted a CB or Safety over this DE…just an opinion…our regime has not been 100% correct. This forum must be full of democrats where someone can’t express a deferent opinion.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:48 am
plenty of time to get some more cornerback and o line players
edge is needed as JPP not long for this league, he has a JPP like body too, supposedly has a high motor too sounds good
April 30th, 2021 at 12:51 am
JGhotier – He doesn’t love football that much or he wouldn’t have sat out a year. To me, personally, that’s a red flag. But in fairness I think the Huskies were one of those schools were they originally said they were going to cancel the season, then played only part of the year, I believe — so with his future NFL career on the line he might have wanted to have sit out just so if he got off to a slow start he didn’t end up slipping to be like a 4th rounder because he had 1 sack in 4 games. If that’s the case it’s less of a red flag – in any case I’m sure the Bucs quizzed him about it and they must have liked his answer.
I sound more negative than I am – I am just indifferent about the pick as I didn’t watch any tape or anything. I just hate when the pro’s on the scouting report are talking about how he looks the part, since generally, guys who look the part get overdrafted. So that scares me a bit. But overall it sounds like he was an early 2nd rounder, so even if he was overdrafted a bit, we’re only talking about maybe 10 picks or so, and if he’s the guy, 10 picks means nothing.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:54 am
Great take Rod – ur right..maybe 10 or so picks over drafted..we’ll see Go Bucs! I hope I’m wrong and he’s the next Taylor.
April 30th, 2021 at 1:05 am
About him sitting out last year. His mom is an ICU nurse and saw the damage Covid could do first hand. I’m sure that played a role in his decision to sit out. I don’t blame him at all for sitting out.
April 30th, 2021 at 1:08 am
Dismissing someone for sitting out during a pandemic is a mentally weak take. What, 5 other guys at least in the 1st round did the same? So clearly multiple other front offices have no problem with it, but us folk posting on message boards at 1am know it all, don’t we!
April 30th, 2021 at 1:14 am
Not my first choice, but I’m certainly not complaining. He’s got some great mentors on our defense to help him grow and Licht’s recent track record earns my confidence. Welcome to Tampa Joe
April 30th, 2021 at 1:16 am
His team only played 4 games I believe so he didn’t miss anything except maybe a career ending injury
April 30th, 2021 at 1:36 am
I dont think overdrafted for the actual draft position. They are at the bottom of the second round too so there was no way he was going to slide that far. This is a great draft to upgrade the trenches and at Edge. It looks this draft will be dedicated to the future of the defense though. They may get another offensive lineman but that first pick set the tone. There will be more defensive guys selected.
April 30th, 2021 at 3:44 am
The pick came in so fast that the Bucs must’ve had Tryon as their Best Player Available hands-down. No hesitation whatsoever; that speaks volumes to me.
And Rod, opting out of playing last year would’ve been a red flag to me also, except that the Pac-12 hemmed & hawed then cancelled the 2020 season in mid-Aug, then overturned that decision in late Sep. Hard to blame any potential NFL candidate for opting out in a situation like that, especially with COVID still going great-guns at the time.
Excited to have him on the team. This is Todd Bowles’ defense all the way, and I’m convinced that Joe Tryon wouldn’t have gotten the call without being hand-picked by Bowles. Great potential building block for the future, and should be able to contribute quite a bit this season.
April 30th, 2021 at 7:26 am
His mother is a nurse on the front lines of COVID. Him sitting out means he was listening to his mother’s stories. I have zero issues with that.
April 30th, 2021 at 8:45 am
Maybe he loves living a bit more then football. Opting out of the crazy covid year is not a red flag for me. It shows he’s smart. He sure didn’t use the time away sitting on the couch eating potato chips. He worked out with a retired NFL end honing his craft. How many tackles were drafted ahead of Wirfs? We might’ve found a first round steal if you trust the Bucs front office. After picking Wirfs, and Winfield last year, why wouldn’t you?
April 30th, 2021 at 8:47 am
I trust Licht, BA and Bowles, but this pick is not that exciting to me. When you had JOK and Tevin Jenkins sitting there and you didn’t even consider them tells me they love Tryon. I’m hoping he isn’t Marcus Davenport 2.0 because that’s all I see currently.
April 30th, 2021 at 9:04 am
The last sentence in your article is exactly what I’m saying. Let these guys coach him up. Hell learn from jpp and Shaq he will also have LVD and white there too. Soak it up stud
April 30th, 2021 at 10:29 am
Didn’t Tryon sit-out last year? If so, he wouldn’t have played under Lake since he didn’t go to the Huskies until 2020…
April 30th, 2021 at 10:37 am
i dont know about some of you but i like nelson….he plays hard and gets pressures….he’s gotten better each year imo…
as for the rookie, i love the pick….
we’re counting on him to learn and develop….thats a great position to be in…lol…
GO BUCS!!!!
April 30th, 2021 at 11:32 am
Anonymous:
Lake has been in Seattle a couple of years. Was Huskies d-coordinator and got promoted to head coach.