Licht said he was the highest player on their board still left. Tryon was higher on their board than some of the players that had been already been drafted before him.
Judging by how fast they turned that pick in (did any time even tick off?!), which was ridiculously fast, I think they believe they did at least. You turn a pick in that fast, I think it’s good conjecture to say he was atop their Draft board at that time.
Considering that we took a 3rd/4th round talent in the 1st round.
No. No we did not draft the best player available.
Love Jason Licht, think he is a phenomenal GM. But to pretend the guy has never made a bad pick is just false. He has made several awful, headscratching picks. And this is certainly one of them.
Dingle Berry is an a propos nickname.
Since you are a $hit disturber.
Tryon is likely going to be great in a couple of years.
He plays fast and angry and athletically was 3rd most gifted edge rusher after Philips and Oweh but with no injury concerns line Philips and produced more on field than Oweh.
Watch the tape he was used very much like JPP. Even played in coverage. Inside outside. .
I think in 3 years people will look back and say we got a stud.
In this case BPA at any position is the wrong criteria.
The two keywords are FIT and POTENTIAL. Jason Licht admitted in his press conference that this was a luxury pick. The speed at which we submitted our pick says to me that JOE TRYON was the target at 32.
Just like I told you last week, You have no clue. You regurgitate what some of these morons that are supposed experts believe. If you watch his video and still think he is a 3rd or 4th round pick you are a moron too! Have you read what his coach at Washington said about him? Loves football, works Very hard, great motor and when you see his video his athleticism is obvious!
The pick was in quickly because the Bucs had 4 hours to mull over who they wanted, that’s not hard to figure out. And, Tryon was the best player available for just about every analyst out there.
Dingle, neither you nor any of us knows how this pick will turn out. Last year we took by many experts opinion the fourth best tackle in the draft. Certainly that was the opinion of the teams picking above us who chose others. Turns out they were wrong obviously. As with every pick we have to let this play out. But to crucify the pick before the kid has played a snap is just silly. Particularly if you’re a fan of the team and the GM that put the team together.
Poor physical traits, doesn’t look the part of an NFL player.
Lacks optimal height and length for a pass-rusher.
Has little definition, almost to the point of being chubby.
Doesn’t have clearly superior traits that he can rely upon at the NFL level.
Unorthodox technique as a pass-rusher and run-defender.
Not a true speed rusher who can hit a second gear to finish around the corner.
Predetermines pass-rush moves at times.
Inexperienced in pass coverage at best.
Gets overaggressive and tries to shoot gaps or disrupt the backfield in run support too often.
Caught out by reverses as an unblocked back-side defender, let’s aggressiveness get the better of him.
Not always as stout as he should be at the point of attack.
Little pursuit speed in the open field.
Doesn’t have an obvious positional fit due to unique build and skill set.
Dingle is obviously that person NEEDING and CRAVING attention. It’s like w/ Jake Paul, don’t give him the attention or platform and you won’t have to worry about their shenanigans.
Dingle is obviously a 4 letter word that starts w/ the letter “T” and is the name of a band that includes Maynard James Keenan and Adam Jones.
Name is apropos for sure!
Dingle will also respond to this by just blurting sh!t out, not making much sense (typically to feed his/here’s own agenda and narrative), trying to be combative and the antagonist after I post this as well. Although, would be better served to spend his time elsewhere ‘cause thus homie don’t play that. Dingle is an open book and quintessential heel. Dingle is also probably mad at their Dad, not at us, so let’s forgive them.
Yea, because the other several teams in front of us had 4-5 hours as well to make their selection and none were near as quick as ours.
Also, teams usually wait to for the clock to wind down to entertain trade offers and allow other teams to do so. So the FACT that they didn’t says they wanted him over any other option and the decision was made instantly after Baltimore picked and didn’t take him.
Is this your first draft?! 🤯 stop the buffoonery and Tom Foolery
You look silly here (although I know you will disagree and admit it)
I’m not a tool or a troll nor am I posting what I post to try and get a rise out of people. And I’m certainly not just regurgitating someone else’s opinion.
After seeing Joe Tryon mocked to us in the first round by Carmen Vitali months ago, I looked up and watched all the available tape there was to watch on him. Needless to say I came away unimpressed.
Go and watch his game vs Washington State and watch him get stonewalled by scrubs and future mailmen for well over 80% of the snaps. Watch him “rush the passer” with no clear plan and no developed moves and no bend and no shock or power in his hands and you tell me that he is a 1st round pick.
Azeez Ojulari, who granted was apparently flagged for medicals by some teams despite being medically cleared by whiz sports physician Dr. James Andrews and not having missed a game at Georgia, is twice the pass rusher Joe Tryon is. He doesn’t have prototypical size or athleticism but as SB pointed out, neither Shaq Barrett who is a perfect comp for Ojulari.
And don’t even get me started on all the other studs that were sitting there for the taking but weren’t picked because Licht got goo goo eyes for a workout warrior with nice muscles.
Dingleberry, I’ll bet some few will call you a troll based on the handle you’ve chosen.
I, for one, depend on studying the analysis of pundits and fans over many months to come to some sort of conclusion about our picks, before and after drafts. I don’t spend hundreds of hours of watching college football. Nor do I spend money and time watching “tape”.
JGhotier…I understand where you’re coming from, and if I lacked common sense like you then I would agree. Critical thinking isn’t something you can teach, obviously. And no, not my first draft and I too remember my first beer. Triggered millennials like yourself should really look inward.
I think he is a bit raw but is in perfect situation as he fits what Bowles likes and has chance to develop behind 2 premiere players.
That is why I am more interested in what he does in year 2 or 3. This year will be getting up to NFL speed and providing so much needed rest for Shaq and JPP to stay rested throughout the season.
Think ojulari is undersized. So this was best pick for edge rusher OLB and future JPP replacement.
Barmore was intriguing but so e red flags about character….
Tryon loves football has great physical traits and plays angry. Perfect Bowles player.
He will be coached up.
I’ll cancel myself per your totally on-topic, sensical lecture and I promise to work on it and try to change. I’m gonna grasp this common sense stuff one day….I can feel it. The critical thinking part is probably out of the question tbh though, as I’ve never been much good at that….obviously.
And per your request, I will do an “inward” ocular pat down of my triggered millennial self, hopefully garner I’m not an unintelligent security risk….and if all goes well, maybe even clear myself for passage.
Dingle, I’m sure your a$$ is huge with a jacka$$ name like that. Head on back to whatever team you bailed on to be here, we don’t need ya. The fact that you announce yourself as a peice of sh!t, tells us enough.
You know you’ve scrambling and at your wits’ end when you bring politics into a football discussion. Shameful and desperate stuff, but it happens to the best of us sometimes (myself included)
They drafted a solid prospect at the Best Position Available, so Im happy with that. Whether or not he was the best player at that position I have no idea
Obviously, Joe Tryon is the guy they had their eye on, as seen by how fast we got the pick in, once we were on the clock.
We can never have too many edge rushers!
We must play Atlanta twice, and they truly have incredible receiver talent, that just got much better, with this draft.
Matty Ice will get them the ball, IF he has time.
The trick is, to make sure he does not have time.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:11 am
How is the answer anything but “I don’t know”. None of these dudes have taken a snap in the NFL yet. Best prospect available? Maybe.
Pedantic? Definitely.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:14 am
Licht said he was the highest player on their board still left. Tryon was higher on their board than some of the players that had been already been drafted before him.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:15 am
Judging by how fast they turned that pick in (did any time even tick off?!), which was ridiculously fast, I think they believe they did at least. You turn a pick in that fast, I think it’s good conjecture to say he was atop their Draft board at that time.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:15 am
Considering that we took a 3rd/4th round talent in the 1st round.
No. No we did not draft the best player available.
Love Jason Licht, think he is a phenomenal GM. But to pretend the guy has never made a bad pick is just false. He has made several awful, headscratching picks. And this is certainly one of them.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:17 am
^^^^^^^^^ This!!!
My son and I were freaking out at how fast the pick was in. It’s like they were holding their breaths
April 30th, 2021 at 10:25 am
seems to be a lot of trenches guys left. We need a OL or DT or QB
April 30th, 2021 at 10:26 am
Rarely does a need match up perfectly w/ best player available so NO
April 30th, 2021 at 10:28 am
Dingle Berry is an a propos nickname.
Since you are a $hit disturber.
Tryon is likely going to be great in a couple of years.
He plays fast and angry and athletically was 3rd most gifted edge rusher after Philips and Oweh but with no injury concerns line Philips and produced more on field than Oweh.
Watch the tape he was used very much like JPP. Even played in coverage. Inside outside. .
I think in 3 years people will look back and say we got a stud.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:29 am
In this case BPA at any position is the wrong criteria.
The two keywords are FIT and POTENTIAL. Jason Licht admitted in his press conference that this was a luxury pick. The speed at which we submitted our pick says to me that JOE TRYON was the target at 32.
In BA and JL I trust!
April 30th, 2021 at 10:33 am
DingleBerry
Just like I told you last week, You have no clue. You regurgitate what some of these morons that are supposed experts believe. If you watch his video and still think he is a 3rd or 4th round pick you are a moron too! Have you read what his coach at Washington said about him? Loves football, works Very hard, great motor and when you see his video his athleticism is obvious!
You are in no danger of becoming a draft expert!
April 30th, 2021 at 10:33 am
The pick was in quickly because the Bucs had 4 hours to mull over who they wanted, that’s not hard to figure out. And, Tryon was the best player available for just about every analyst out there.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:36 am
Dingle, neither you nor any of us knows how this pick will turn out. Last year we took by many experts opinion the fourth best tackle in the draft. Certainly that was the opinion of the teams picking above us who chose others. Turns out they were wrong obviously. As with every pick we have to let this play out. But to crucify the pick before the kid has played a snap is just silly. Particularly if you’re a fan of the team and the GM that put the team together.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:36 am
Here is the draft profile on Shaq Barrett
Negatives
Poor physical traits, doesn’t look the part of an NFL player.
Lacks optimal height and length for a pass-rusher.
Has little definition, almost to the point of being chubby.
Doesn’t have clearly superior traits that he can rely upon at the NFL level.
Unorthodox technique as a pass-rusher and run-defender.
Not a true speed rusher who can hit a second gear to finish around the corner.
Predetermines pass-rush moves at times.
Inexperienced in pass coverage at best.
Gets overaggressive and tries to shoot gaps or disrupt the backfield in run support too often.
Caught out by reverses as an unblocked back-side defender, let’s aggressiveness get the better of him.
Not always as stout as he should be at the point of attack.
Little pursuit speed in the open field.
Doesn’t have an obvious positional fit due to unique build and skill set.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:37 am
My point being…………….ANYONE? ANYONE?
April 30th, 2021 at 10:46 am
The odds of history showing he was the best player available is a hands down no .. will he be a very good player for the Bucs, I’d venture to say yes!
April 30th, 2021 at 10:52 am
SB – Great bit of draft history on Shaq. Shows how experts and pundits can get it so wrong on draft night. Thanks.
April 30th, 2021 at 10:56 am
Canabuc,
Dingle is obviously that person NEEDING and CRAVING attention. It’s like w/ Jake Paul, don’t give him the attention or platform and you won’t have to worry about their shenanigans.
Dingle is obviously a 4 letter word that starts w/ the letter “T” and is the name of a band that includes Maynard James Keenan and Adam Jones.
Name is apropos for sure!
Dingle will also respond to this by just blurting sh!t out, not making much sense (typically to feed his/here’s own agenda and narrative), trying to be combative and the antagonist after I post this as well. Although, would be better served to spend his time elsewhere ‘cause thus homie don’t play that. Dingle is an open book and quintessential heel. Dingle is also probably mad at their Dad, not at us, so let’s forgive them.
#Facade #charade #got’em
April 30th, 2021 at 11:01 am
Jerry R Jones,
Yea, because the other several teams in front of us had 4-5 hours as well to make their selection and none were near as quick as ours.
Also, teams usually wait to for the clock to wind down to entertain trade offers and allow other teams to do so. So the FACT that they didn’t says they wanted him over any other option and the decision was made instantly after Baltimore picked and didn’t take him.
Is this your first draft?! 🤯 stop the buffoonery and Tom Foolery
You look silly here (although I know you will disagree and admit it)
April 30th, 2021 at 11:08 am
You guys are clowns, sycophants and yes men.
I’m not a tool or a troll nor am I posting what I post to try and get a rise out of people. And I’m certainly not just regurgitating someone else’s opinion.
After seeing Joe Tryon mocked to us in the first round by Carmen Vitali months ago, I looked up and watched all the available tape there was to watch on him. Needless to say I came away unimpressed.
Go and watch his game vs Washington State and watch him get stonewalled by scrubs and future mailmen for well over 80% of the snaps. Watch him “rush the passer” with no clear plan and no developed moves and no bend and no shock or power in his hands and you tell me that he is a 1st round pick.
Azeez Ojulari, who granted was apparently flagged for medicals by some teams despite being medically cleared by whiz sports physician Dr. James Andrews and not having missed a game at Georgia, is twice the pass rusher Joe Tryon is. He doesn’t have prototypical size or athleticism but as SB pointed out, neither Shaq Barrett who is a perfect comp for Ojulari.
And don’t even get me started on all the other studs that were sitting there for the taking but weren’t picked because Licht got goo goo eyes for a workout warrior with nice muscles.
April 30th, 2021 at 11:09 am
People are giving the Saints crap for Payton Turner when his tape blows Tryon’s out of the water.
This Tryon kid will be lucky to get 5 sacks a year.
April 30th, 2021 at 11:11 am
Yes because he was my number one pick on defense.
April 30th, 2021 at 11:15 am
ok – perspective
shaq barrett – undrafted
Denver Broncos (2014–2018)
-played behind Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware, and Shane Ray
and lastly bradley chubb
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2019–present)
was matched with todd bowles defense (unique fit)
so are you saying you.re willing to give joe tyron a couple of rs to develop?
jim
April 30th, 2021 at 11:28 am
Dingleberry, I’ll bet some few will call you a troll based on the handle you’ve chosen.
I, for one, depend on studying the analysis of pundits and fans over many months to come to some sort of conclusion about our picks, before and after drafts. I don’t spend hundreds of hours of watching college football. Nor do I spend money and time watching “tape”.
April 30th, 2021 at 11:49 am
JGhotier…I understand where you’re coming from, and if I lacked common sense like you then I would agree. Critical thinking isn’t something you can teach, obviously. And no, not my first draft and I too remember my first beer. Triggered millennials like yourself should really look inward.
April 30th, 2021 at 11:50 am
I think he is a bit raw but is in perfect situation as he fits what Bowles likes and has chance to develop behind 2 premiere players.
That is why I am more interested in what he does in year 2 or 3. This year will be getting up to NFL speed and providing so much needed rest for Shaq and JPP to stay rested throughout the season.
Think ojulari is undersized. So this was best pick for edge rusher OLB and future JPP replacement.
Barmore was intriguing but so e red flags about character….
Tryon loves football has great physical traits and plays angry. Perfect Bowles player.
He will be coached up.
April 30th, 2021 at 11:56 am
Shaq Barret – 6’2 249
Azeez Ojulari – 6’2 249
Undersized my butt.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:09 pm
Totes Jerry R Jones 👍
I’ll cancel myself per your totally on-topic, sensical lecture and I promise to work on it and try to change. I’m gonna grasp this common sense stuff one day….I can feel it. The critical thinking part is probably out of the question tbh though, as I’ve never been much good at that….obviously.
And per your request, I will do an “inward” ocular pat down of my triggered millennial self, hopefully garner I’m not an unintelligent security risk….and if all goes well, maybe even clear myself for passage.
Onward 🙂
April 30th, 2021 at 12:09 pm
They probably got Joe Tyron with pick 64. But if thats who their heart was set on so be it.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:14 pm
Dingle, I’m sure your a$$ is huge with a jacka$$ name like that. Head on back to whatever team you bailed on to be here, we don’t need ya. The fact that you announce yourself as a peice of sh!t, tells us enough.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:16 pm
The projection is fantastic jghotier.
Biden and Harris are rooting for you.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:26 pm
You know you’ve scrambling and at your wits’ end when you bring politics into a football discussion. Shameful and desperate stuff, but it happens to the best of us sometimes (myself included)
April 30th, 2021 at 12:37 pm
Usually I don’t, but you make it easy because you’re extremely predictable.
April 30th, 2021 at 12:49 pm
They drafted a solid prospect at the Best Position Available, so Im happy with that. Whether or not he was the best player at that position I have no idea
April 30th, 2021 at 1:00 pm
Riiiggghhhtttt 😂
Everything else was cool….but pulling out the “predictable” comeback hurts dude. That was a little uncalled for and over-the-top.
You win man. I concede. You are next level. Impressive stuff.
April 30th, 2021 at 1:51 pm
Obviously, Joe Tryon is the guy they had their eye on, as seen by how fast we got the pick in, once we were on the clock.
We can never have too many edge rushers!
We must play Atlanta twice, and they truly have incredible receiver talent, that just got much better, with this draft.
Matty Ice will get them the ball, IF he has time.
The trick is, to make sure he does not have time.