“Open Communication”
March 15th, 2021
The latest.
It seems like someone has been talking to oily Drew Rosenhaus.
In a report this morning on NFL Network, reporter Tom Pelissero did a live hit with an update on various big-name free agents that likely could be very wealthy young men this afternoon.
One is Bucs sack king Shaq Barrett.
It sure sounded like Pelissero had spoken to Shaq’s agent, Rosenhaus, as Pelissero said the Bucs and Rosenhaus still have an ongoing dialogue in trying to work out a deal.
Based on his conversation with (Rosenhaus?), Pelissero doesn’t believe the Bucs and Shaq will come to terms on a deal, at least not yet.
“I have been told there has been open communication with Tampa, but he is looking for a monster payday,” Pelissero said of Shaq. “As of now it sounds likely that Barrett will hit the open market.”
To paraphrase one of Joe’s favorite comments from the late, great Tampa Bay sports radio giant “The Big Dog,” Steve Duemig, that quote has the scent of agent all over it.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:00 am
I’m sure Drew wants him to hit the open market. “Going for 2” means nothing to Drew since agents don’t get SB rings.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:01 am
“Jerry Maguire” lol
March 15th, 2021 at 11:04 am
Yup. That smells like rosenhaus
March 15th, 2021 at 11:04 am
“he is looking for a monster payday’
best of luck to him. I think he’ll find he’s not as valuable as he thinks he is on the open market.
only then will he come to the table.
If he gets that monster payday I say congrats and best of luck.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:05 am
I miss the big dog. Too bad him and Chris Thomas did not live to see this Super Bowl win.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:11 am
Haven’t seen St. Pete Buc Fan here in awhile……can anyone provide any info on him?
March 15th, 2021 at 11:12 am
Holy Poop. I just ready that Drew Brees retired?
I guess he realized with Brady extension that there was little chance of winning the division anymore?
We are now in total control of this division. We’ll be facing Jameis Winston as the Saints starting QB, it appears.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:13 am
If they were going to sign him, wouldnt have they have done it by now?
March 15th, 2021 at 11:13 am
Like I said…it you won’t take a little “hometown discount”, you really don’t care where you play. If that is the case, I hope we get as least as much bang for that big money. A slightly less known, yet meeting the Bowles, Licht, Arians seal of approval, for less money, and bring more of the guys back on offense? Yeah…I can see it.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:14 am
Ppl are trippin like this guy is the best OLB in the NFL. He’s not and whoever is the one that gets $20M/yr. He’s second to last position talent in this past 2020 IMO.
1.White
2. Vea
3. Lavonte
4. JPP
5. Barrett
6. Suh
March 15th, 2021 at 11:14 am
Just to play a little devils advocate. I would love to see us resign shack Barrett but at the right price. Some of his statistics could be a little smoke and mirrors. Keep in mind the last two years he’s been here we’ve been blitzing more than any other team in the NFL and our secondary was so bad we could not get off the field. That gives him a chance to really rack up statistics. There’s a lot of other pass rushers hitting free agency that might be just as good and a fraction of the cost. Not to mention the draft. I personally think outside linebackers that can blitz are a lot more common and easier to find than true defense of ends.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:14 am
Robert Says
“I think he’ll find he’s not as valuable as he thinks he is on the open market.”
heh. Famous last words. Someone will offer him more than we can. The question is whether he will take the higher offer.
Personally, I think he is letting the Bucs know he wants to stay, but he wants to get the most he can in doing so.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:15 am
Charlie Weis just said on NFL Radio “U cannot have enuff Pass Rushers”
March 15th, 2021 at 11:15 am
I want him back, but if we can get everyone else back or just Shaq, just let him go.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:16 am
Greg Says
“Keep in mind the last two years he’s been here we’ve been blitzing more than any other team in the NFL…”
So, you have to ask yourself…do we foresee that changing in the near future?
No?
Than he is worth it.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:16 am
One more point to my earlier comment. Drafting linebackers is the one thing Jason light has been great at. Might want to save some money as a secondary will start one and contracts in the next year or two
March 15th, 2021 at 11:16 am
Bye Shaq…thanks for the memories
March 15th, 2021 at 11:18 am
* He’s second to last position talent in the front seven.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:22 am
@Chris@AppleRoof
Ya man, I remember listening to them in the early 90’s on 910 and later 620 when I was driving around Florida. Both those guys were characters and never boring. 😀
March 15th, 2021 at 11:27 am
Robert, he will certainly be able to find the money he wants, it will just likely be with a losing franchise. Unless he wants to actually negotiate and compromise and stay with us. As I’ve said many times, he’s getting filthy rich either way. At the end of the day it’s a greed thing. How many generations of families does he need to give a blank check to?
March 15th, 2021 at 11:28 am
I feel that 18-20 is reasonable. What is unreasonable is getting paid in the Myles Garrett/Joey Bosa range. I also believe it’s insanity as fans to expect him to take 15 or so, I mean get real. I DO however believe that if Barrett rejects 22 million or so that the Bucs are offering because he wants more, then yeah – Tampa needs to walk. Go trade for Von Miller, or go after Leonard Johnson or Bud Dupree and use the extra money to resign Suh and maybe double down on another DT like a Sheldon Rankins
March 15th, 2021 at 11:29 am
I don’t understand some fans. Shaq over david first. Then .. shaq has made it very clear he wants money.
Sack total 8
Pff grade 74
Tied 2nd most penalized LB last year.
Gone missing 12 games.
2 yr experience as a starter in which one year wonder. Second drop drastically.
And he’s asking $20m plus a yr ?
Old Bucs will sign him. New Bucs won’t.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:29 am
Chris…he was a craftsman at his job. He knew how to turn it on and off. I talked to someone that knew him personally decades ago, who said “you don’t really know the real guy”. He is a good guy, basically.
One of my favorite lessons is when he showed the audience how boring it would be if he simply always said….the Bucs are great and the like.
What I learned through it all, is that people can catch you doing many things…but for the sake of your job in dealing with people or entertaining them, don’t let them catch you being boring.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:30 am
And in case anyone didn’t recognize it, I was being rhetorical with my blank check comment,. The point is these guys always say I need security for my family. Well, last year’s franchise check provided that stability. This year’s monster paycheck is icing on that cake. It’s really up to him.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:30 am
New Bucs will used those $20m to bring in
J. White
Suh
AB
Gronk
Succop
Depth in S, oline.
Maybe trade for obj 🙂 or Sam darnold
March 15th, 2021 at 11:32 am
Why are fans limiting Shaq’s worth to one statistic of 8 sacks last year?
If you look at his two year totals of Sacks, TFL, QB pressures, QB hits.
He is top 5. How is that replaceable?
+ he is better in run support than these other edge rushers that are free agents.
Who cares if the Glazers pay a little more or we suck up a bad salary cap situation in 4 years. I want guys who in the playoffs played their best ball who we know fit on this team.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:32 am
He’s probably asking for way too much and the Bucs will let him test the market and see if it drops the price.
We aren’t paying him $25 mil. If someone else wants to, good luck to him.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:34 am
Since Barrett seems purely motivated by money, and his performance will likely be Albert Haynesworth-esque after he is paid, I vote the Bucs just pay him the veteran minimum and $1 million for each sack plus $1million for each forced fumble or interception.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:36 am
Jerry, we likely aren’t even paying 20 mil. Is Shaq really that much more valuable than JPP? I’m not so sure. Ever since the Super bowl his comments have become much more individual oriented unless team oriented. they have the fingerprints of his agent all over them. Remember, it’s not only his big payday, it’s also his agents.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:36 am
While I would understand if Shaq follows the money, I hope he finds some common sense and chooses another championship over the biggest pay day possible. #KeepTheBandTogether
March 15th, 2021 at 11:37 am
*versus team oriented
March 15th, 2021 at 11:38 am
If we don’t get Shaq back , Kwon is looking for a new home and due to his injuries would be likely on a proove it deal
March 15th, 2021 at 11:43 am
Let him play for the jets or jags and watch the playoffs from home.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:43 am
If he wants $22M he will get it in Florida… either Miami or Jacksonville.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:44 am
Let’s get Carl Lawson
March 15th, 2021 at 11:46 am
Did Weis say “Pass rushers are like double cheeseburgers, I can never have enough.”?
March 15th, 2021 at 11:46 am
If it’s not Shaq it will likely be Lawson, Reddick, Dupree, Judon, Dunlap, or any of the others that haven’t gotten cut yet but will in the next few days.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:50 am
If he gets paid, great for him! Hopefully, we can sign a Von Miller or someone that can be a plug and play pass rush threat for us to keep the defense producing.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:52 am
OMG!!! Stop the press! An NFL player that wants to be paid?!
Surely, he should just be grateful for being in the presence of greatness and play for a bag of chips.
I guess fans just need something to fuss about. The rest of the NFL is clearly out of their mind to think a top 5 pass-rusher is worth that much!!!
March 15th, 2021 at 11:53 am
I think he’s still butthurt over getting tagged last off-season. I think he kind of pouted about it the whole season. Personally, there’s something about him that just rubs me the wrong way. I’m definitely not opposed to signing the guy bc he’s clearly productive, but at some point the $$ is too much and could be used elsewhere on the roster. I hope JL has set his number and will stand firm. The decision then goes to Shaq and if simply chases the money then he’s probably doing us a favor. We’ll just keep drafting and signing guys that want rings.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:54 am
I personally think Drew is trying to get him something similar to Miles Garrett’s deal with that 25 mil a year payday and if that’s the case then we just can’t flat out afford him as awesome as Barrett is I don’t think he’s worth losing every other big free agent we need to bring back I think we all know that.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:56 am
Bucsfanman… You have a point. But then the question becomes, who else wants to play for Arians and with Brady, for the same amount of money he would get paid anywhere else? And then the question becomes, who would Licht, Arians, and Bowles think would be the best value, maybe taking a little less and leaving a poor situation, to chase a ring? And if it comes to that, it may or may not be Barrett. Very likely not.
March 15th, 2021 at 11:59 am
Myles Garrett is a pedigreed number one overall pick who has produced since day one. Shaq is a great story. No one here knew his name two years ago. Came here on a one-year deal and blew up. We paid him handsomely last year. We have no idea how he will handle a big contract in terms of motivation. Especially with two rings already. I too hope that Jason has a firm number and won’t budge from it.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:00 pm
I thought we were screwed when we let Kwon go. You simply can’t overpay for any one guy. Dak is rich, isn’t gonna win for years
March 15th, 2021 at 12:03 pm
I think it is smart on Shaq’s part to see what is out there and compare. I think if we are close we can still get him but we will see. If someone offers him something insane he should prob still take it as much as I hate to say it.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:06 pm
he did not play special…….knowing it is the year he needs to show up to get paid. That says something. One year wonder. TB told him to prove it this year, and he did NOT. He proved he’ll lay down after getting paid. Drew probably called him before the SB and said, “man I can’t get you 12 mill for 8 sacks….you better blow up in the SB”. And the SB is not a good measuring stick as they were allowed to pin their ears back most of the time due to the lead and KC was missing their two main O lineman.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:13 pm
Beeej: “Red Rooster” Alexander was not worth keeping. He was not that great a LB. He was not a “difference maker.”
March 15th, 2021 at 12:13 pm
Josina Anderson just mentioned he’s back with us. No mention of terms.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:15 pm
If he hits the open market, more than likely someone will over pay and find he is not as effective in a different scheme, hopefully he focuses on guarantee money. I also hope that the organization is hitting the open market as there are a lot of good options at a discounted rate that would give the defense some more diversity, having Suh and Vita and our 2 premiere LB white and David allows edge rushers a rare opportunity to be in single coverage I am sure Von Miller would like a opportunity to showcase what he could do in our scheme. Getting any quality player will allow us to also focus on depth as for the price of Barrett we may be able to get quality at a 2 for 1 price.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:53 pm
Looks like we can disregard all future intel from Tom Pelissero. His “sources” obviously had a little fun at his expense.