2020 Cements Tom Brady
December 31st, 2020
More major street cred gained with Bucs.
Joe has always hesitated to use the popular farm animal reference for park-violating, home-invading, NFLPA-ignoring, down-forgetting, handshake-stiffing, jet-ski-losing, biscuit-baking Bucs quarterback Tom Brady.
Why? Joe has always been a Joe Montana guy. Joe always believed Montana had a much more difficult path (Giants, Redskins, Bears, Vikings) to get to his Super Bowls than Brady ever had.
And unlike Brady, Montana never lost a Super Bowl and never threw a pick in a Super Bowl. When the highest stakes were on the line, Montana was money in the bank.
Marcellus Wiley, who co-hosts “Speak for Yourself” with Emmanuel Acho on FS1, has always believed Brady, with his six rings, has deserved every bit of praise ever heaped on him.
However, what Brady has done at 43 with a new coach, new team, new teammates, new town, new state, new climate, well, Wiley believes that puts Brady in a stratosphere no NFL player can touch.
Brady, Wiley believes, has redefined this year what “elite” is in an NFL quarterback.
You can see and hear Wiley explain in the FS1 video below.
Tom Brady’s move to Tampa has already been a success, according to @MarcellusWiley…
“He checked a couple boxes that people were challenging him to check:”
1. Win without Belichick.
2. Cultural impact/winning culture
3. Win double digit games.pic.twitter.com/x5Gi5SQQ7R— FOX Sports (@FOXSports) December 30, 2020
December 31st, 2020 at 11:07 am
I like wileys takes for some time.
December 31st, 2020 at 11:08 am
I too am a Montana guy…for the reasons mentioned above. I was at his first game as a Chief ( I believe ) at the Old Sombrero…and it was hotter than the Joe’s in mantards that day. The steel bleachers made it unbearable.
I see some parallels as Montana had some success with the Chiefs for a couple of years anyways. A SB run would have to cement Brady as perhaps better.
December 31st, 2020 at 11:40 am
At the beginning of the season, I wondered if it was Belichick or Brady that was the key ingredient to New England’s long-term success. As for most things, it was probably a combination of the two. But, now that I see Brady perform week in and week out, I seriously doubt that Belichick, despite being a great coach, could ever have pulled off his team’s success without Brady at QB. On the other hand, Brady comes into an entirely different system – new coach, new team mates, new scheme, new environment – and takes a downtrodden team to the playoffs. So I have to believe that he, rather than Belichick, was the primary reason for the Patriots dominance. If he is able to get the Bucs to the SB, and particularly if the Bucs should win the SB, he will truly have earned the moniker of GOAT.
December 31st, 2020 at 11:41 am
And gobbling up W’s without the turnover machine. Exactly what this team needed, 36 touchdown passes and 11 picks. Sad part is I had season tickets and would have loved to have been at the freaking games. Praying Brady plays another year or two so I can be there to enjoy the wins! Go Bucs
December 31st, 2020 at 11:48 am
Brady has scoreboard he IS the GOAT.
Now if we wish to leave scoreboard to the opinion section…I still have Brady as my GOAT.
Joe Montana had Bill Walsh and Sam Wyche as his QB coach early on as Walsh and Wyche perfected the freaking West Coast Offense. Montana had the GOAT at WR. Imagine Brady in that same WC offense that terrorized the league until DC’s caught up with it. Think Brady could have won a few?
So Montana plays for an offensive genius…Brady played for a defensive genius who as a head coach had ONE winning season without Brady to include this most recent LOSING season.
Lastly and it pains me to say this. I believe we know more than most just how deep a funk the Tampa Bay football franchise was mired. It looked hopeless.
So we get the savior at QB with the #1 pick in the draft…two coaches later we get that savior a coach with winning cred and what nada. I’m not saying this to blame JW at all. In fact THAT IS my point. Neither JW nor BA nor a host of other coaches save the Bucs. Prior to 2020 it’s fair to say the Buc’s were LOSERS!
Along comes Brady…brings his sidekick with him…and voila the team suddenly wins.
I don’t honestly know how any Buc’s fan can at this point question who is the GOAT. Buc fans know how FREAKING HOPELESS it was before Brady.
Did Montana do that for KC? I give him credit for playing well there but I’m not sure I remember a time when KC was thought to have sucked as much for as long as the Bucs.
6SB’s…that’s impressive but it pales in comparison to turning the Bucs around.
Give BA his props…coaches…other players…but honestly…what single person could you subtract from the Bucs this past year and had things once again become Buc hopeless.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:07 pm
@StPete … “what single person could you subtract from the Bucs this past year and had things once again become Buc hopeless.”
Interesting question StPete. And ya, Tom Brady would be my answer too. Sure we added a couple of quality rookies in Wirfs & Winfield, and several FAs in Brown, Gronk & Fournette, but THAT didn’t change us from 7-9 to 11-5 (think positive). Tom Brady has been THE DIFFERENCE, even at age 43 & even though some of the games have been up-and-down. Over the course of the season this team has grown, and IMO Brady gets the credit because of his leadership on-and-off the field. He just seems to elevate those around him & find ways to win. I’m not sure that’s something that coaches can teach young QBs. Some have it (like Mahomes); some don’t (no names).
December 31st, 2020 at 12:13 pm
What are Montana & Brady’s records in championship games?
December 31st, 2020 at 12:31 pm
Montana played with the greatest most dedicated wide-out in history, Mr. Jerry Rice.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:46 pm
Agree 100% stpetebucsfan.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:56 pm
Brady has been asked numerous times for the quarterback most influential in his career and whose poster was in his room growing up in CA. Response: Joe Montana.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:56 pm
The post above from stpetebucsfan may just be the greatest comment from a JBF commenter in the history of the site. Excellent job.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:10 pm
PSL Bob. JESUS CHRIST, sure am glad i’m not one of your children hahahhaha I’m sure you said “great job. BUT why didn’t you ……………………”. And lets turn it around on JOE about Joe M. Yes he never lost a SB. I say if he made it to 9 SBs he might measure up to Tompa. But we will never know will we
December 31st, 2020 at 1:13 pm
I agree with most of what you said SPBF.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:23 pm
Joe the sad part is you got people who don’t realize what they’re witnessing. We might not ever see a QB doing this again Brady has been doing what’s never been done since he was 40. The dude is 43 years old still doing at a high level. It’s crazy he’s competing against him self. There is no other standard he is the standard. All I wanna say is bucs fans we have the greatest player to ever play in the nfl. Respect what y’all seeing don’t get caught up in the hate from these Cult following Twitter loving so called buc fans.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:40 pm
Tom Brady has elevated this franchise into a contender and thats all we could ask. His protection of the football AND breaking Winstons record are huge accomplishments we expected of him and he delivered. I never questioned he was the greatest of all time and now I certainly will never doubt it. He has been what we have needed and kudos to BA and Jason to have the guts to do the right thing and dream big because nobody thought he was going to come here and they knew better. Thank you Tom Brady you are the GOAT!!!!!!
December 31st, 2020 at 2:03 pm
Montana was the Gold Standard, but 9 times in the Super Bowl and 6 wins. Brady is the G O A T. Brady has been playing for Super Bowls and winning them, past the age J Montana retired. For me Montana was the GOAT, but Tommy boy is wearing crown theses days. BTW even thou I have detested the Dolphins since 1976, Dan Marino was still my favorite QB in the era Joe Montana played. GO BUCS!!!
December 31st, 2020 at 2:30 pm
Alton Green: “great job. BUT why didn’t you ……………………”.
Just to be clear, I already believe he’s the GOAT. The point I was trying to make (and not too clearly) was that if he does get this team to the SB, he should win over any doubters that are still out there.
December 31st, 2020 at 2:49 pm
This is the most talented team in all 3 parts the Bucs have ever had. M12 could come in on a stretcher and win with this team. I hope Bucs get to the SB, but not holding my breath.
December 31st, 2020 at 3:09 pm
With all due respect, in my opinion the “never lost a superbowl” argument is biased. The man had his bad games in the playoffs too, only they were before the superbowl, his overall body of work in playoffs is not that superior to Brady´s, if at all. Tom Brady lost two superbowls after putting his team ahead late in the fourth quarter, and in the third he set the record for points for a superbowl loser.
(Joe, english is not my first languaje, feel free to correct any mistake you see. The site is great, congratulations.)
December 31st, 2020 at 4:36 pm
Joe just like Montana because they share a name.
Come On LOL.
I’m 46 so I grew up watching Montana and he was awesome to cheer for.
Kinda like Jordan and Kobe then LeBron.
Until you reach this level, it’s still the rings IMO.
Brady has 6.
Mahomey might catch him, but it’s speculation until he gets 2 then 3 then 4.
Tiger or Nicholas?
Same generation issue really
December 31st, 2020 at 5:10 pm
Walsh was a losing coach before he made Montana the starter.
49ers won 1st SB with Freddie Solomon and Dwight Clark as receivers.
Montana played in a different era – Brady, thankfully for Bucsfans, played in the “don’t touch the QB” era
December 31st, 2020 at 6:19 pm
TB12 has shut up all the haters…Even me.
He shoved the riddle of Belicheat’s Patriot Way…It was TB12 making it work.
He’s defied father time in Tampa & the team has rallied behind him….Maybe he is the GOAT.
I’m just hoping this Cinderfella story has a couple great chapters left.
December 31st, 2020 at 6:31 pm
Brady has been to 9, yes 9 superbowls out of a so far 20 year career. Brady also has never had a receiving core like Rice, Owens or a RB like Roger Craig. Joe’s defenses were also better. If Brady takes the Bucs to the promised land can we all stop with this stupid debate? Even Joe would take a knee if that happens.
December 31st, 2020 at 7:29 pm
Not loosing a SB but losing in the NFC championship game or earlier is NOT better than making the SB and losing.
December 31st, 2020 at 8:23 pm
We are absolutely blessed to have Tom Brady here.
Would he have won with last years team?
Absolutely.
The Guy is amazing.
We can win any game, against any team, so long as Brady is our Qb.
December 31st, 2020 at 11:29 pm
The Dolphins, Jets , and Bills, sucked for two decades. Put the Patriots in the NFCS for that same period of time, and they would have a much different legacy. Chances are Brady and Belichick would not have lasted for two decades in a tougher division. Brady is good, but I have to believe there are several QBs around the league that could have 12 wins or more with this team. I’m not even confident we can beat the fowlgoons again. We stunk it up in the first half two weeks ago. We have the talent to win it all. What we don’t have is consistency and confidence. Beat the Saints for the first time, or the Packers for the second, and I’ll be a believer. Right now I’m still concerned.
January 1st, 2021 at 11:17 am
-Alanbucsfan
I think you are forgetting TB12 is in year 20 as a starter. You could certainly level the QB 20 years ago. I think you are getting confused with the most recent wave of QBs that have greatly benefited from rule changes regarding the QB
January 1st, 2021 at 12:15 pm
I read this blog but am new to it. But here’s the thing…Joe Buc, I am confused are you a fan or critic?
January 1st, 2021 at 6:17 pm
@Linda
I’ll defer to Joe’s answer of course but I consider him an “objective” fan.
The Joes may love the Bucs and there are times when they candidly admit to possible bias in the Buc’s favor…the make fun of themselves as homers when the do that. LOL
But perhaps the greatest thing about the Joes is that they do not deal in alternate facts or fail to accept reality. When the Bucs or a player suck they don’t gloss over it. But they are even quicker to point out when they succeed.
The Joe’s are also quick to differentiate between fact and opinion. Both are welcome here but there frequently is a difference.
January 1st, 2021 at 8:29 pm
Comparing teams, players, etc between decades, is just chucking abstractions and fake sentiments around. Perhaps, this is aplies to the half (decade) mark, as well? Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, and Kobe…for their time. And we can go all sports on this; keep chucking them out. Joe Cool and TB12…same deal. Maybe, the same applies to music/bands,…different environments, technology, rules, et al. Regardless, all of these players are toppers. 🤔😁
January 2nd, 2021 at 9:25 am
I been a die-hard buc fan since the John McKay, Doug Willam era , and am fascinated on what Brady has bought to our team, it seems to have lit a fire in all our team and long time players like L. David, Evans, ect. who I’m excited for. they truly deserve this. Play – offs at last. As for Brady, for however long he plays for us, at my age (69) I truly feel blessed to be given the opportunity to watch history and a true legend week in and week out. Because years from now when I’m long gone. Brady and the buccaneers will still be talk .about . He is truly the G.o.a.t.Now let’s get us a superbowl. Goooo Bucs