Bad Throws And Throwaways
November 26th, 2020
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You’ve heard the football term “Live to fight another down,” right? That’s when a quarterback is taught to unload the ball rather than take a sack or worse, throw a pick.
Well, Joe doesn’t know what to make of the following.
In Pro-Football-Reference.com’s advanced passing stats, Tom Brady’s throwaways totals this season are almost night and day different from last year.
In 2019, Brady led the NFL in throwaways with 40. That was nine more than second-place Aaron Rodgers.
This year? Through 11 games, Brady has nine. If he doubles that in the next five games, it will still be less than half of last year’s throwaways.
Joe honestly doesn’t know what to make of this. Is this because Brady has better receivers this year and thus receivers are more open than the guys he had with the Belicheats?
Or is this an example of Brady forcing more passes?
The same site also tracks what it calls “bad throws.” Joe assumes that is when a quarterback throws an uncatchable pass.
Last year Brady had a lot of those, too. He finished with 118, or No. 3 in the NFL (YouKnowWho led the league with 124). This year? Brady has 83 through 11 games. But if you divide the number of bad throws per game, Brady’s numbers are virtually identical to last year.
Another thing jumped out while looking at these numbers:
Last year the Bucs had a quarterback who led the league in bad throws. This year the Bucs have a different quarterback who is leading the NFL in bad throws.
Yet the offensive coaches with the Bucs are the same as last year.
Coincidence?
November 26th, 2020 at 10:08 am
Bad coaching and play calling more than anything else. Yup, bad QBing in several cases. So nope, not a coincidence. The Bucs needed to dismiss their QB last year, and did. Maybe this year some coaches need to go (but I’m really off of “maybe” given we can win enough with THIS roster).
I’m so sick of hearing about BL being a prime HC candidate when he seems to stink at OC, and I’m particularly tired of hearing about how it takes QBs a couple of years to get BA’s system down. In today’s “win now or else” NFL, I personally thinks BA’s so-called system sucks if that’s really the case. Certainly looking at what they do, and how predictable and vanilla they are, I have to ask what is so good about BA at all?
November 26th, 2020 at 10:08 am
change “can win” to “can’t win” ^^^^
November 26th, 2020 at 10:10 am
In the 2 Saints losses and Rams loss, Bucs had a TOTAL of 2 sacks and 9 QB hits
in all 3 games, NOT per game.
And in ALL 3 Losses, Bucs lost battle in trenches.
Brady ain’t what he used to be, but the D stinks without Vea.
November 26th, 2020 at 10:27 am
After this past Monday……….I see these Bucs narrowly missing the playoffs…
All the Tom Brady Winston deep ball interceptions are driving all Bucs fans crazy!!!!!
In the infamous words of Dirk Keotter when he was asked by the media about all of Jameis Winston turnovers….Dirk said….. “I thought we were past that”…..
If a HOF Tom Brady cannot make it work in a Bruce Arians offense………then no damn QB can.
Byron Leftsuck ruined Josh Rosen’s career……and Tom Brady is just circling the drain until retirement.
November 26th, 2020 at 10:28 am
You’ve heard the football term “Live to fight another down,” right? That’s when a quarterback is taught to unload the ball rather than take a sack or worse, throw a pick.
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Ah yes, the old JayMiss mantra.
He never really took to that did he?
I mean he said he would…… and play smarter……. and quit making mistakes.
Weird, for a guy that is just so blessed…..
Blah blah blah…..
Happy Thanksgiving
We’re still 7-4
Go Bucs!
November 26th, 2020 at 10:30 am
Byron Leftsuck has always been the problem………………always
Kobe Faker called it early………….and I never believed the hype either.
Byron leftwicht makes the same bad decisions as a coach the same as he did as a player in the NFL and and that’s why Byron Leftsuck was a terrible QB in the NFL when he played.
November 26th, 2020 at 10:31 am
………and the bucs are easily on the path to 10-6 or 9-7.
November 26th, 2020 at 10:35 am
Kinda like when Smith got rehired.
November 26th, 2020 at 10:46 am
If the Bucs somehow finish 9-7. It will be eerily similar to Jon Grudens last year when the Galzers fired him. Could history repeat itself?
It’s a Bucs life!
November 26th, 2020 at 10:53 am
Totally agree with the Leftsuck responses. BA isn’t much better. Let TB call his own game & enough with the stupid long passes. Earth to BA & OC they just aren’t working. Off topic but I believe JPP & possibly Wirf’s should be in the pro bowl.
November 26th, 2020 at 11:03 am
“Last year the Bucs had a quarterback who led the league in bad throws. This year the Bucs have a different quarterback who is leading the NFL in bad throws. Yet the offensive coaches with the Bucs are the same as last year. Coincidence?”
Aahh yes, ‘Houston, we have a problem’. So let’s see, the QB Whisperer didn’t help Winston at all, and now he’s screwing up The GOAT; is THAT the takeaway? Of course, who knew that The GOAT led the NFL in throwaways in 2019? And who knew that he was #3 in the NFL in bad throws last year with 118? And who could possibly have anticipated that Brady would be leading the NFL in bad throws this year?
Uhhh, oh ya, maybe anyone who’d looked at what the REAL Tom Brady has been doing over the past several years. TB’s not who a LOT of people thought he was. Father Time always goes undefeated.
November 26th, 2020 at 11:20 am
So is Jason Licht still a genius?
In 11 games, we’ve been called the most complete team in the NFC. One of the best defenses in the league. One of the best secondaries in the league. And we’ve been called just about the opposite in most of those categories.
This team is going nowhere. Hopefully the FO and staff is.
November 26th, 2020 at 11:20 am
Anthem….10-6 or 11-5 either way playoff bound.
Whether YOU like it or not.
November 26th, 2020 at 11:23 am
Jmarkbuc….after they get rid of everyone…
Will it get better or will the Bucs still suck like they have for the past decade?
November 26th, 2020 at 11:43 am
@ 1987
I truly would be shocked if these bucs win 11 games this year…………truly
November 26th, 2020 at 11:53 am
Ye of little faith. The Bucs will beat the Chiefs.
November 26th, 2020 at 11:54 am
BTW, they were 4-7 at this point last year.
Be happy, people.
November 26th, 2020 at 11:57 am
Yeah I have my doubts about winning 11… Hoping we don’t finish with 9 and just miss playoffs
November 26th, 2020 at 12:03 pm
You got it Joe! Coaching has got to adjust or I want someone else doing the coaching in Brady’s last year. Go Bucs!
November 26th, 2020 at 12:04 pm
I expect a good game out of Brady this Sunday. He played 20 years vs the AFC, he’s familiar with those defenses. We are 3-0 so far vs AFC. Chiefs will a tough game obviously, if the D can rise to the occasion, all will be good at 8-4 at the bye. Season ain’t over.
November 26th, 2020 at 12:50 pm
Bucs will beat KC Sunday in spite of the 2 Methusalehs: TB and BA.
November 26th, 2020 at 2:14 pm
87
We’re pretty close to sucking right now… so what’s the difference? Oh yeah we’ve got AB!!
Yesterday, today, tomorrow. All looks about the same. We went all in, and the coaches couldn’t handle it.
November 26th, 2020 at 9:51 pm
Jmarkbuc….it looks far different to me (7-4) and I thought this Brady thingy was a 2 year deal anyways.
When did this “all in” for this season start? Who started it? Did BA or someone say they were going all in for 2020? Or are we going by all the talent they signed this season? Who started this all in?
Again Brady’s on a 2 yr deal.
November 28th, 2020 at 11:34 am
@87-
They are all in for THIS season b/c at least 1/3 of the roster will be gone next year due to Salary cap issues.
And personally, i think if they don’t make it far into the playoffs this year, Brady will end up retiring anyways.
November 28th, 2020 at 11:36 am
I also find it hilarious that it took the goat coming here for everyone to realize the offensive scheme has major glaring issues.
Zero misdirection. Zero disguise. Zero creativity.