Bruce Arians Keeps Up The Blame-Jameis Game
October 5th, 2020
Joe is bringing up last season on this glorious Monday because Bucco Bruce Arians did immediately following yesterday’s thrilling win.
Six Bucs games ago, Tampa Bay trailed by 14 points late at home to a team better than this year’s Chargers and came out winners.
Joe’s referring to the Bucs allowing a touchdown and a two-point conversion to the Colts on Dec. 8 to trail 35-21 with six minutes remaining in the third quarter. Without Mike Evans, who blew his hamstring in the first half and was lost for the season, Jameis Winston threw two touchdown passes and led a field goal drive to win the game 38-35, overcoming an interception between the late heroics.
So it really surprised Joe to hear Arians bellow twice after yesterday’s win that last year’s Bucs would have lost by 20 points after trailing 24-7 late in the second quarter to the Chargers. Arians said of yesterday’s comeback, “Last year we would have had our ass beat by 20.”
As soon as Arians said it, Joe thought of the Colts game and then nodded in understanding. Arians making that comment is just a continuation of his endless blame-Jameis commentary through the 2020 offseason.
Adding to the irony is the Bucs never did lose a game by 20 points last season.
Make no mistake, Joe’s not against Arians further pumping up the confidence of his team by contrasting Jameis and Tom Brady as loud as he can. If it helps them believe in Brady that much more, then keep it rolling! Joe just finds it intriguing in Week 4 of a new season, as head coaches are well known for never looking backwards.
There’s also the possibility that Arians viewed last year’s team as soft and his comments have nothing to do with Jameis, but Joe’s not buying that.
The subject of Arians’ postgame comment even was a topic on the NBC Sunday Night Football halftime show last night — because everyone is paying attention now that the Bucs are winners. Joe spent a moment wondering what the radical Jameis defenders thought of that take.
October 5th, 2020 at 3:55 am
Quarterback Whisperer, for some reason, acts like Jameis isn’t on his resume. Jameis had plenty of opportunity, but I think he would’ve had a better shot with Josh McDaniels plays and a running game
October 5th, 2020 at 4:05 am
Jameis was the reason for way more meltdowns than heroics. Had Jameis been in yesterdays game you could, more times than not, count on a Jameis TO at the most untimely time. When we were down by 17 points I never once worried about losing the game with Brady at the helm. But with Jameis I would have felt like we would probably lose like always. So even I, as a fan, feel more confident now that we always have a chance to come from behind and win. Can’t say I ever felt that way with Jameis.
October 5th, 2020 at 4:19 am
Check yo sheet BS-
NFL leader in total offense, passing yds. (5109) one of eight players to ever do it. Yards per game, #2 in TD’s, all in year one of an offense so dumb that TB12 just changed it. And now look at you kissing up, after the national talking heads took you to town and started questioning your legacy. Changed your tune today didn’t you? “ oh I need to coach him up more on that route, that one play it’s all on me.”
Brady runs this show- as he should-
Glad he was given many of the weapons Jameis did not have because the team needed it. Jameis needed it and put up big numbers in spite of many things.
TB12 took your vaunted offense and tossed it in the bin.
To think you told Jameis “you better bulk up because in my offense the qb is gonna get hit” How dumb can you get.
We might win in spite of you BS
Keep that trap shut
5109
Check yo sheet
October 5th, 2020 at 4:20 am
Let’s ask Peyton how he feels-
“Arians was my coach when I threw those 28 interceptions as a rookie. He didn’t put that in his book, I don’t think, as the QB Whisperer, but he was my coach. To me, he’s got to be a part of those 28 picks. It can’t all just be me.”
October 5th, 2020 at 4:24 am
Winston worked in turnovers the way other artists work in oils or clay.
October 5th, 2020 at 5:27 am
Because turnovers, that’s why.
You’re kidding yourself if you didn’t cringe every time our QB last year heaved it downfield.
It also helped that we stood by the run-game keeping LA honest, another facet we didn’t have last year.
October 5th, 2020 at 5:34 am
Jameis Joe,
Its your radical friends. Hmmm. As a player, are you more confident having the GOAT or a #1 pick fraud who cant see past his first progression. Simple as that…”makes the players around him better”…you gotta get over americas buffoon…
October 5th, 2020 at 5:38 am
Ask Dak Prescott about how throwing for a lot of yards feels when you lose the game. 502 yards trying to play catch up. Sound familiar? Old, washed up QB leads a heck of a comeback. Suck on that!!
October 5th, 2020 at 5:54 am
During the game yesterday myself and family memebers made very similar comments as BA, except more direct. “If Winston was under center – no way we win this game. The whole team would have looked at Winston and just went soft”
October 5th, 2020 at 6:11 am
Bruce Arians was the QB Coach in Indianapolis in 1998, not the Offensive Coordinator (Tom Moore was). Who does Peyton Manning blame for the 5 interception game against Florida in college? This is ridiculous, but so is the title “Quarterback Whisperer”, IMHO. Interceptions seem to be commonplace in Arians offenses, no matter who the QB is.
October 5th, 2020 at 6:12 am
I don’t think Jamie’s would have won when the team is still in contention. The pressure was too much for him. I think that’s the biggest difference between him and Brady. For the first time in forever our Bucs expect to win.
October 5th, 2020 at 6:16 am
Where’s NDog?
October 5th, 2020 at 6:17 am
OMG this is the stupidest thing I’ve read in weeks. Really? Go back six games to find one Jameis did well to win?
How about going back fewer games to see two that Winston GAVE away to deny Bucs fans, coaches, and his team a winning season, and a chance to come back as QB (Thank God he’s not here). He did what he does, frankly.
There is really no question Winston would have found a way to take a terrible first half yesterday and turn it into an entire terrible game that would have Bucs fans sitting numb this morning wondering how such a team came in here an beat the Bucs.
Hey, anything goes on any given day. But I never felt yesterday they were going to lose. I never worried about Tom Brady throwing it to the other team when they HAD to get points.
Jameis Winston is a 3rd string QB making minium scratch for a QB for good reason. I’m only sorry it took bringing the QB whisperer in as a final test to prove what any objective fan already knew.
October 5th, 2020 at 6:21 am
Starting the third quarter behind, forced Leftowich to call a more balanced game.
Passing more on first and second down was the key to our success IMO. His ground and pound attack to close out games was too predictable in some previous games forcing fans to sit on the edge of our seats. Use all your weapons and coast to wins.
October 5th, 2020 at 6:27 am
Brady gave the Bucs an out in the Jameis conumdrum. The ownership could not stomach paying Jameis what he wanted. Yes Jameis has alot of talent but if you lead the league in the worst stat for a QB – turnovers by a wide margin over a 5 year period of time in the NFL, you lose any ground to stand on. I hope one day Jameis will figures it out. But in Tampa Jameis lost the locker room, and the ownership by not showing progress over a 5 years. You have to produce consistantly or the guys are going to tune you out. Again I hope Jameis figures it out and does well, just not against the Bucs lol. GO BUCS!!!
October 5th, 2020 at 6:28 am
If our rookie RB can block on third down Brady will capitalize on his pass catching abilities. ROJO is not dependable enough on passing downs. Otherwise he had a very nice game with some big runs on the right side of the line.
October 5th, 2020 at 6:41 am
@Bob in Valrico…I continue to be shocked at what bad playcalling the Bucs have. Yesterday was better, but things like going 20 yards for the end zone in the first half when a higher probability pass (I think it was 3rd and 5) would do the trick and keep a drive alive. Yeah, “no risk it, no biscuit” but there is a time to do that.
October 5th, 2020 at 6:48 am
ROJO had a decent, not great game running the ball. But the drops are way to common for him. I do not care what the name of a player is, they either perform or they do not. And so far ROJO can not be trusted when a pass is thrown to him. The Rookie Vaughn dropped one but he also caught a TD Pass. Please come on back Mr Fournette quickly. He has good hands and is a sledge hammer with speed also.
October 5th, 2020 at 6:49 am
FACT…..with Winston if we fell down by 2 TDs, I quit watching because the overwhelming odds were in favor of us losing. With Brady you watch knowing he can pull us back. I told my wife, watch how much the defense thrives off the offense….that’s confidence. When all the pressure isn’t on the defense, they play better. When they can make a mistake and know the offense can bail them out…and vice versa, the team plays with more confidence. That was never the case with Winston. The defense could get the ball and Winston would give it right back…literally. That’s mentally and physically draining.
There also was nowhere near the execution to start games the way our offense does now. Brady comes out and gives the defense a lead, that’s huge. Winston would go entire halves before getting going. Like I said, if we were down by 2 TDs, i knew the game was over. Sure he would almost “comeback”…but almost was still short too many times. You can not win in the NFL with a QB that turns the ball over 2x per game. I dont care how good you are, look around the league…..any QB has a 2 TO game, odds are greatly favoring the opponent.
October 5th, 2020 at 6:50 am
Arians making that comment is just a continuation of his endless blame-Jameis commentary through the 2020 offseason.-Joe
Arians didn’t single out Jameis with his comment, Joe did.
Dak Prescott threw for 500 yards yesterday, He threw for 470 yards last week- Cowboys Lost both games.
Yards don’t = Wins. It takes the will of a team that believes it CAN win, among other things.
And I’m sure the CBS announcer meant no disrespect to Fournette when he said Fournette was sitting this one out. Fournette will have his productive time when he gets healthy. Maybe ROJO’s productive day and Fournette’s sitting out was a little grinding on Joe.
Anyway, love JoeBucsfan and appreciate the takes.
October 5th, 2020 at 7:27 am
Love it!
Joe’s feeling so giddy with yesterday’s win they are trolling their own website!
Love it !
October 5th, 2020 at 7:29 am
Other Peyton Manning on Bruce:
He was my quarterbacks coach when I was drafted by the Colts and I can still remember getting drafted, flying to Indianapolis on draft day and sitting down with Bruce, He handed me a playbook. I’d say a rookie quarterback probably spends the most time with his quarterbacks coach, so Bruce and I spent a lot of time together. They had some different rules back then that the rookies weren’t allowed to spend as much time at the practice facility, yet the quarterback coach could come to you and so I remember Bruce came to Knoxville for a film session. He came to New Orleans for a film session.
We might be able to double up on some film session and some good golf. Bruce Arians loves his golf. He just taught me a lot about pro football. It’s a huge adjustment going from college ball to pro ball and he really helped me get acclimated to the speed of the game.
He really helped me a lot with my play-action,” said Manning, now in his 16th NFL season. “He had been in Kansas City and Steve DeBerg was the quarterback. I always thought Steve DeBerg was one of the great play-action quarterbacks, and Bruce had good knowledge of him from being with the Chiefs. He really helped me out a lot with different types of fakes and I really attribute some of the good play-action fakes that I’ve been a part of to Bruce Arians.
October 5th, 2020 at 7:29 am
Brucie is so full of class
October 5th, 2020 at 7:32 am
Well , we know what Joe wrote this article . Is there a JoeJameisfan.com website yet ? Asking for NDog , Cleanhouse , and Anthem .
October 5th, 2020 at 7:33 am
Ben Rothlisberger on Arians.
it was Roethlisberger, who went 13-0 in the regular season and won Offensive Rookie of the Year honors, who successfully lobbied for Arians to become the team’s new offensive coordinator after Ken Whisenhunt left to become head coach of the Cardinals following the 2006 season.
You could just tell right from the get-go how much he knew about the game of football and his passion for the game of football and his players.
He coaches the way players want to be coached.
He’s a player’s coach and he just knows how to relate to the guys — the way he talks to them, the way he acts, all the fun things that he does.
He knows how to do that with the guys. And then he knows how to be strict and get on guys when he needs to.
I take so much from all of our time together,. In every part of my game I take the things that he has taught me and helped me with. I’ll use them for the rest of my career.
October 5th, 2020 at 7:34 am
Joe you’re never going to get over it. No clue what you’re talking about. Joe doesn’t think that way. Joe is — and was — ecstatic that Brady is here. Brady was a better quarterback in 2019, and he’s an upgrade in 2020.–Joe We are three and one and the leader ship of our current quarterback has this team and town rocking Winston never brought us a thing but disappointment , you finally got a chance to write about Winston because the coach brought him up. I for one am tired about stories centered around Winston, MoveOn and get over it! Winning is winning and losing sucks no matter how pretty you look doing it.
October 5th, 2020 at 7:36 am
Andrew Luck on Arians.
I feel very fortunate to have played under him. To see how he led us through that tough time without Chuck was very inspiring.
He made players comfortable around him and let everybody have their own personality. He didn’t force anybody to be someone they weren’t. It may sound a little corny or cheesy, but there’s merit to that. I felt comfortable being myself and I felt he had my back. If I was doing something bad or wrong he’d let me know, but I felt I could go out there and give it everything I’ve got.
The strongest impression I got from him is he lets you play. He didn’t hinder you or hold you back. He didn’t coach you with kid gloves.
He gave you the bicycle and let you ride it. There were no training wheels. He just said, ‘Here you go, bud, let’s go make it happen.’ And I appreciated that as a young player. It made me feel comfortable to play football. I didn’t have to hold anything back.
Bruce could be tough on you as a coach, but the minute you walk off the field, he’d put his arms around your shoulder and invite you to have dinner with him.
It was over. You’d get yelled at worse than you’ve ever been yelled at before but the next play, it’s dead and gone, which I think is one of his greatest attributes as well.
October 5th, 2020 at 7:38 am
3-1 now lets see what the record is in the next 8 games. Hopefully we will go at least 4-4 that would put us at 7-5 with a great shot a the playoffs. With the Bears, Packers, Raiders, Saints, Rams and Chiefs within the next 8, it will be tough.
October 5th, 2020 at 7:40 am
Jameis who?
October 5th, 2020 at 7:44 am
I’m a fan of both…and you guys act like Jameis didnt make a comeback win against the chargers before lame news…even though last time the defense came up big. Levante david had another strong outing against the chargers years ago.
October 5th, 2020 at 7:46 am
We might not have lost by 20 but we likely would have lost….Do you realize we outscored the Chargers 31-7 to win…..
October 5th, 2020 at 7:46 am
Jameis has fell to the chargers and had a epic comeback. Louis Murphy got hurt that game smh short memory fans I swear
October 5th, 2020 at 7:49 am
Actually Cecil shorts III who got hurt and the bucs won 28-21
October 5th, 2020 at 7:52 am
I guess your mad because it wasnt 38-31 I get it lol…..tommy threw a int… and so did Jamie’s….jameis duel phillip rivers and tommy had herbert..not a fair comparison at all. Let’s be fair if we’re comparing apples to oranges fruit is still fruit lol
October 5th, 2020 at 7:58 am
You can’t dismiss the turnovers by JW
But you can’t dismiss a defense that is making plays when they need to
You can’t dismiss the offensive line playing better in the run game, in four games – we have two one hundred yard games (a real RT and commitment to the run)
The evidence is in what BA said about TB12 pick six yesterday vs. what he said after the Saints game when TB12 threw a pick six
October 5th, 2020 at 8:01 am
Arians is just talking to the bolster confidence of this year’s team. Don’t let yer bias toward Arians make more of a fool of of you Joe.
October 5th, 2020 at 8:04 am
We’re 3-1, coming off a great game by our new QB, and Joe comes up with this. Probably one of the worst articles I’ve read on here in some time.
Chumming the waters for the #3 nuthuggers. I agree with smoothbayrider, we know which Joe wrote this one. You guys read between the lines very poorly. Joe has written what, 20 postgame articles since the win. This is just one take like any other. Joe doesn’t chum for anything. Don’t have to. Arians brought up last year with a strange reference that doesn’t add up, not Joe. And like most people, you’d be wrong on who wrote what.–Joe Starting his own site for the #3 nuthuggers sounds a great idea. They can all sit around and compare notes on #3’s stats this year.
October 5th, 2020 at 8:04 am
The play is similar though…brady is inconsistent at times..the pick six and if any of those corners was decent they would have had few picks…and tommy also missed miller 3x before connecting like Jameis lol…only improvement this team made since last year. Fast starts,we can actually run,and our kickers cost us 3pts instead of 6-9pts. But defensively we’re the same bucs.
October 5th, 2020 at 8:06 am
Way to setup the straw man, Joe.
You might have thought about the Colts game. Arians probably thought about every game he coached Jay-Miss and every film session he watched on Jay-Miss. There is no doubt that Arians and his staff evaluated every skill set, every throw, every loss of poise, and every immature action taken by Jay-Miss and came to the same conclusion that EVERY OTHER TEAM IN THE NFL came to: Jameis Winston is a bust and a career backup.
October 5th, 2020 at 8:06 am
And oh yeah we have less 3 and outs than last year. If we didnt win alot of people would have alot to say about that first half.
October 5th, 2020 at 8:08 am
You want to make a new flash…article why Brady is on pace to ruin ME13….that’s the real issue.mike finally had a good game playing while hurt
October 5th, 2020 at 8:10 am
“YOU LIKE THAT?!?”
October 5th, 2020 at 8:13 am
Anonymous, you are correct. With Tom Brady under center the odds of winning a football game are very good. With Jay-Miss under center the odds of losing a football game are very good.
For five years Joe complained on a near weekly basis about the Bucs’ slow starts. With Tom Brady on this Bucs team, with mostly the same players Jay-Miss played with, the Bucs have scored more points in the first quarter than any other team in the NFL. We’re finally getting the fast starts that Joe has been complaining about for YEARS yet somehow he’s back to writing stories about a draft BUST and a career backup.
1) This story is about Bruce Arians’ comments.
2) The Bucs ranked 3rd in the NFL in first-quarter scoring last year. Slow starts, for Joe, were never just about offense, dating back many years.–Joe
October 5th, 2020 at 8:14 am
What we need to do is launch shady McCoy for a new blocking TE asap or a serviceable nickel back to take smb spot….the kids a liability in the secondary. I seen serial loafing yesterday
October 5th, 2020 at 8:25 am
Americas favorite 3rd string QB
October 5th, 2020 at 8:25 am
I agree . If Jameis was down 24-7 after already throwing a pick six, he’d be in panic mode , locking on to receivers , and forcing the ball down field into double and triple coverage and probably end up with multiple interceptions .
October 5th, 2020 at 8:44 am
Joe…what is the issue. He is probably right. And for a variety of reasons, not all Jameis’s.
Yes…Jameis would have probably pressed and the game would have gone down the drain. Ints/ Pick Sixes, fumbles, and such, which we know very well from experience.
Secondly, the team likely wouldn’t have had faith that Jameis was bringing them back without doing those things, and the belief that that game was recoverable would have been lacking. And without the entire team stepping it up, with the exception of the D backs, this game would have been lost.
A QB has to make some heroic comebacks a few times before the guys will believe in their hearts that he is capable of doing such things. Brady has done it many times. Jameis hasnn’t.
October 5th, 2020 at 8:44 am
Clean house
Just curious? Did you meet up with jameis after a win in tallahassee?
A lot of man love from you …going his direction…wow
He moves your needle too?
October 5th, 2020 at 8:58 am
Tom Brady’s reads seem to take milliseconds. Jameis’ reads sometimes were never completed before he had spent so much time doing it that the OL/RB could no longer hold the defense off.
Experience – yes. Decisiveness – yes. Cognitive processing – maybe.
October 5th, 2020 at 8:58 am
Bird…Mr. Wiggly stiffy?
October 5th, 2020 at 9:02 am
Confirmed Bird!! Clean House was always checking his Sheets while in Tally with Jameis hugged up next to him!!
October 5th, 2020 at 9:09 am
It can be said that Interceptions seem to be commonplace in Arians offenses, no matter who the Quarter Back is.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:15 am
We may not have lost by 21 to Carolina in London or the Saints in Tampa last year but those games weren’t nearly as close as the final score and we were never competitive. He was probably referring to those games.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:17 am
We would not have lost by 20 last year!!!!!
Jameis would have lead us to a few meaningless td’s in the 4th and we would have lost by 4, then most would have blamed the d and kicker.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:22 am
BUCS fans should be thankful for Jameis. If it wasn’t for Jameis’ turnovers, BUCS will not have Tom “the GOAT” Brady in our team.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:25 am
Yea because there’s no possible way he’s talking about the team in general right joe? Seems like you missed a paragraph in this post. Joe writes for Joe, not anyone else. Same approach since Day 1 here 12+ years ago.–Joe
🙄 What ever I get it gotta feed the trolls also 😂. For someone who says the hate ESPN it’s starting to feel like ESPN around here🙄
October 5th, 2020 at 9:25 am
They
October 5th, 2020 at 9:38 am
Huh?
I heard nothing about Winston in Arian’s statement.
I did hear a statement of team attitude.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:39 am
I’m with Joe on this one. Arians brought it up which makes it noteworthy. in fact the second I heard that I assume there would be an article about it. Voila. Joe’s just doing what good journalists do, reporting the story behind the scenes. As he said there were many other articles since the victory. This is just one.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:42 am
who cares about JW….
he’s a BUST!!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!
October 5th, 2020 at 9:46 am
(a la Ferris Bueller)……NDOG? NDOG? NDOG???
October 5th, 2020 at 9:46 am
I like Winston, and I really wanted him to work out as a franchise QB. But BA put all his chips on the table by letting Winston walk and signing Brady. BA was praised by some and criticized by others on this move but at the end of the day this was his move. It might not be fair to blame everything on Winston but at the end of the day he was in a contract year and didn’t show enough to give the bucs confidence to lock him in long term. Further more he didn’t give the any of the other 31 other GM’s and coaches any confidence in his ability either being that hes a 2nd or 3rd stringer with the Saints.
Right or wrong our bucs are 3-1 and leading in the division. BA, Licht and Brady get a ton of credit for that.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:48 am
Matters to no one, except one of the Joes and Ndog.
To summerize, JayMiss is now a NO Saint. He’s safe on the sideline holding a clipboard for Brees.
Peace, out.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:53 am
Why isn’t that everyone thinks his comment is directed at just Winston everytime. In this case I felt he meant the whole team would have given up. They would have done it with presnap penalities and a questionable defense..
Just trying to create a story as always
October 5th, 2020 at 9:53 am
Ditto to what Boston Boy said. I believe Arians was referring to the entire team, not just #3. Of course, the Joe’s can spin it however they want. In this case, it’s to feed the nuthuggers and continue with the not-so-well-hidden bias.
October 5th, 2020 at 9:56 am
Joe
Don’t bring up the past
You ran out of stuff to write?
We got the Bears on Thursday
October 5th, 2020 at 10:05 am
It’s hard to pass the ball with a red handful of crab legs.
October 5th, 2020 at 10:07 am
Last year they would of found a way to barely lose it.
October 5th, 2020 at 10:11 am
The difference between this year and last year is we are running the ball more and this is not Bruce Arians playbook . And other than yesterday our defense has been ranked number 5 in defense . That’s the difference if we would have ran the ball this much last year Jamies would have done great . You can’t deny his numbers without a running game and a good defense .
October 5th, 2020 at 10:27 am
I think we would still be 3-1 with last years team. The schedule is cupcake so far and barely winning these games
October 5th, 2020 at 10:27 am
He plays for another team. Let it go already.
October 5th, 2020 at 10:30 am
0-14 when trailing by 14 points. Crab Legs made his bed Dude
October 5th, 2020 at 10:46 am
Not even counting the QB position this 2020 team is more talented than the 2019 version. All the young players are better. The only losses were Nassib and Perriman. Perriman didn’t show up until the last 4 weeks of the season. So yes the 2019 team may not have come back to win because they weren’t as good as this team.
October 5th, 2020 at 10:47 am
I knew as soon as B.A. said that, the media would jump on the blame Jameis narrative, but that’s not how I heard it and I’m sure that’s not what B.A. meant by it, he was comparing this year’s “team’s” confidence overall compared to last year’s team.
October 5th, 2020 at 11:05 am
Mike
Sounds about right to me!
Clean House
Meaningless yards without ability to limit turnovers! Worst stats by any of the 8 to achieve that mark!
October 5th, 2020 at 11:05 am
LaMarcus. No way we are 3-1 with America’s Turnover Machine as QB!! Check yo Sheets, especially with Jameis in them with you!!
October 5th, 2020 at 11:11 am
I think Ariens is making another off the cuff remark. Just like he did when Brady through the 2 interceptions in the first game and he blamed the loss on Brady. Ariens lacks a mouth filter so all his comments have to be taken with many grains of salt. GoBucs.
October 5th, 2020 at 11:16 am
Oh please. BA said out of own JW needed a run game and good defense and NONE of that happened. Now we do
October 5th, 2020 at 11:16 am
Tony D
You’re right! He mentioned something to that effect a month ago.
October 5th, 2020 at 11:42 am
Best thing we ever did was to let him leave – Blameless Winston was a terrible pick and set us back 4+ years as a team. Look at us now. That is what a real QB looks like. Go Bucs!
Also – Winston just threw 2 INTs sitting on the bench. Mad skills.
October 5th, 2020 at 11:46 am
[That’s not very nice. In fact, it is gross. — Joe]
October 5th, 2020 at 11:55 am
Clean House,
How many yards does Jamoist have this year?????
Check yo sheet.
If he was so good, someone would have paid him.
They chose to go other directions. Actions speak volumes.
Go Bucs!!!
October 5th, 2020 at 12:00 pm
I said the same thing after the game.
I was not thinking directly of Jameis but the whole team!
October 5th, 2020 at 12:07 pm
Let it go Brucie. You startin to sound like our leader in Washington. Besides if you were such a great qb whisperer. you failed with jameis.
October 5th, 2020 at 12:35 pm
What have you won? 4 games in and you are already crowning yourself champions . Let’s wait and see your record at season end.
October 5th, 2020 at 1:18 pm
CONTEXT MATTERS, THOUGH.
Question… how many games last season did the Bucs have a lead at any point during the game?
“Did You Know…”
During the 2020 season, after 4 games, the Bucs have had the lead in ALL FOUR GAMES at least at some point in each game.
The Winston-led Bucs rarely had leads in games. This is brutally inaccurate. –Joe They were always playing catch-up from behind. And much of that was because the Defense gave up early scores. But a lot of that was also due to Winston’s giveaways turning into early points for the other team.
I don’t think Arians was only taking a shot at Winston. The team WAS soft at times. They lacked confidence. They seemed to lack the ability to stay focused for an entire 4 quarters. They did often seem like they would QUIT on games.
I DO think a lot of that had to with Winston. You have a team fighting its tail off in a very physical game that football is, only to have your QB at any given moment give the ball away, it does take the air out of you.
Winston’s erratic play often didn’t give the Defense a chance to REST and a chance to look over photos/film to make adjustments mid-game. THIS MATTERS more than people realize in football. Especially the REST part.
Look at the team now? Brady often sustains drives. He plays with poise and confidence. The team absorbs that confidence and calmness. They don’t PANIC. They rarely get FRUSTRATED.
All of this matters. Brady has improved this team in so many ways that people don’t realize.
Jameis Winston “had his teammates backs” but did he HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE for mistakes? Tom Brady holds people accountable. Brady helps them keep their focus or they know their leader won’t be happy.
Again, all of this matters. So Arians is right. Last year’s team, on both sides of the ball, would have folded like a cheap suit.
October 5th, 2020 at 1:26 pm
Jameis is an idiot!!…. too
October 5th, 2020 at 2:00 pm
Lamarcus
Again. Maybe you should go back to the sidelines
The defense has one new player And They are without d end
Jpp back but he was back at end of year when jameis lost
And look at defense on sunday. It got torched like in years past
And brady threw a pick six. And kicker missed kick
But new bucs won. Brady won
So suck it. And stop calling everyone garbage. Its all negative.
You are garbage 😂
October 5th, 2020 at 2:01 pm
I knew as soon as BA said that this website would run with it. Keep crying about Jameis Winston being held accountable for tossing record breaking INTs and losing us games. He’s gone and the world continues without a ripple
October 5th, 2020 at 2:06 pm
Are you saying he’s wrong? We’ve seen that for 5 years under Winston. No one had a problem blaming glennon, mccown, freeman or Fitzpatrick. Fans and media have given Winston the award for most excuses in franchise history and it ain’t close.
October 5th, 2020 at 2:10 pm
Arians isn’t wrong. That’s how I felt from the second quarter on. I just kept waiting for what was going to go wrong next and thinking of last year. This year, the defense stiffened and the offense had some spark in both the run game and the pass game.
October 5th, 2020 at 2:18 pm
I’ll just say this:
Jameis threw less interception each year of his career compared to year before, UNTIL Bruce Arians came in. Then he had the most ever.
You know who else also threw the most interceptions of their entire career under Bruce Arians?
– Peyton Manning
– Big Ben
– Andrew Luck
– Carson Palmer.
Just sayin. #QuarterbackWhisperer
October 5th, 2020 at 2:33 pm
Scrolled these comments and only saw our Defense mentioned once or twice. They gave up ZERO points in the 4th quarter. 7 in the 3rd.
Oline gave up ZERO SACKS on 46 pass attempts yesterday. Kept Brady untouched in the 2nd half. I know we love trashing Jameis, but try putting your thinking caps on. I saw nothing but hate on here last year, lamenting our former qb for “digging us out of holes he created.” Especially when we went 5-1 down the stretch. Brady plays terrible 1st half (including a pick 6) and the narrative is “only Brady can lead us back. Jameis would never..”. The truth is, we have a team around our QB for the first time in forever.
October 5th, 2020 at 2:36 pm
The difference with Brady is the team always has a calm confidence. With Winston, it was always a prayer and a hope. You just never knew. You either got a comeback or a disaster. And yes, with Winston, we always played catch up, so it was more stressful watching him lead the offense.
October 5th, 2020 at 2:44 pm
unbelievable Says:
October 5th, 2020 at 2:18 pm
I’ll just say this:
Jameis threw less interception each year of his career compared to year before, UNTIL Bruce Arians came in. Then he had the most ever.
You know who else also threw the most interceptions of their entire career under Bruce Arians?
– Peyton Manning
– Big Ben
– Andrew Luck
– Carson Palmer.
Just sayin. #QuarterbackWhisperer
JW INT% by the year
2015:2.8%
2016:3.2%
2017:2.5%
2018:3.7%
2019:4.8%
Yes, his “ints” went down but he also didn’t play in 8 games between 2017-18.
Face it, the dude is a turnover machine.
But hey, at least he hasn’t turned the ball over this year!
October 5th, 2020 at 3:03 pm
Feelings are not facts. Jameis brought the Bucs back twice (just off the top of Joe’s head) in two games where they trailed by 14 in the first half; one opponent was a playoff team.
And the Bucs never lost by 20 last year.
October 5th, 2020 at 3:20 pm
Say it Ain’t so Joe!!! JayMiss, America’s THIRD String Quarterback!! JayMiss, America’s Turnover Machine!
October 5th, 2020 at 3:21 pm
Thanks for the facts Joe !!!! If you don’t hate Jamies then you are not a real bucs fan . Or if you don’t hope he fails or get kick out on the league then you are not a real bucs fan according to this fan base .
October 5th, 2020 at 3:21 pm
Joe , how far down the line is it gonna be before we stop mentioning Jameis Winston’s name every day ? Asking for all of us real Bucs fans who can’t stand NDog, Cleanhouse, Anthem, and DaPostman ?
October 5th, 2020 at 3:22 pm
JayMiss plays backyard football!! Not good when decent Defenses with Decent D coordinators play your tendencies like a fiddle!!
October 5th, 2020 at 3:29 pm
Penny I have to agree with you bro I’ve been saying the same thing . And guess what this is not the same playbook and we are running the ball more as well for the play action pass we didn’t do that last year . Jamies did a good job for what he was told to do and that’s with no running game and he was told to keep slanging it up the field . While with Brady after the first game they change the hold playbook to a more short passing game .
October 5th, 2020 at 3:35 pm
The problem I have with our fan base is when the next young quarterback comes in . I see we still haven’t learned nothing from this year dealing with quarterbacks . This should be the new playbook for the next quarterback . I told yall that if you can run the ball just a little it will help any quarterback and play good defense that’s what ever quarterback need.
October 5th, 2020 at 3:39 pm
Great win for the bucs but for me it’s still superbowl or bust !!!! That will never change with me . But I will enjoy this year and wait and see next year . I still believe that Josh Rosen will be good in this offense with us running the ball like this . Go bucs !@!
October 5th, 2020 at 4:11 pm
BS is a classless loser riding Brady’s coattails
He’s a sloppy, no filter, buffoon.
I’m enjoying watching TB12, and am seeing why he is the GOAT, ebven he throws pick sixes and is on pace for 8 this year a quarter way through.
I think highly of JW- one of the best in the NFL- check yo sheets…
Saints were smart to pick him up, he’s sitting behind one of the all time greats, as he should.
He’s getting some much needed rest, after gutting it out and playing injured in BS idiotic, hit the qb, chuck it downfield offense.
The team seems to have matured in several areas that JW did not have the benefit of.
I don’t blame them going with TB12- thinknits great- I’m thoroughly enjoying it.
I do blame them for being classless finger pointing losers.
October 5th, 2020 at 4:12 pm
Simple as that!
October 5th, 2020 at 5:31 pm
Yup.
Dead accurate.
I don’t know fans get so angry about this either. It’s simply the truth. That’s not to say Jameis didn’t have a big part of the blame for our losing as well, he certainly did. But I don’t know why so many fans must act like it’s 100% one way the other.
Anyhow, we finally have a complete team now, and that includes a different QB.
The problem I see is we don’t have a QB for the future, we have one for 2020, and maybe 2021.
October 5th, 2020 at 5:47 pm
You know, I agree totally. Even though I am super pumped about where we are right now, this is just patently untrue. Winston never played behind a line half as good as what Brady has his entire career including this one. On top of that a much improved TE and RB corps. Winston would probably be very close to Brady’s performance this year.
October 5th, 2020 at 5:54 pm
Stains should be reprimanded and fined by the NFL. Pure lack of class and awful taste. Pick 6 Brady needs to be traded
October 5th, 2020 at 6:17 pm
Great win!! We won that game for only 1 reason. Their dumbs coach didn’t take a knee before halftime. Period. You idiots act like Jameis never had a come from behind win. Even with the GOAT- we don’t win that game if they take a knee before halftime. 3-1 and rollin’!! We got the GOAT and Jameis still got the shaft, both things can exist simultaneously.
October 5th, 2020 at 7:42 pm
Get your 45mil and go Brady. He will not be back next yr for 15mil lol impossible
October 5th, 2020 at 8:04 pm
No accidents here; seen it over and over. Honestly, I was astonished to see the pick-6; thought the Bucs were going to jump way out front. Regardless, this was a good win. Did you see how the ball got spread around. Here’s the deal with Brady: He is a winner. In the playoffs, many games come down to one play, and he wants the ball. Wait till you see him manage the clock; he’s a master. The only reason he has so many INTS, is because it’s a new team. That will subside. And, yes, he makes the team better, as he is a total team guy. Gronk will heat up, and he will make big plays. Don’t forget, there wasn’t much of a preseason; just jump right in. This team has a great chance to win in every big game. Enjoy…
October 5th, 2020 at 8:31 pm
Vinny Testeverde, Trent Dilfer, Josh Freeman, and now Jameis Winston. All failed first round quarterbacks with the Buccaneers. Was it all their fault? Nope. Though I love my team, on the whole, it’s been one of the most pathetic franchises in sports history. As bad as it gets ownership (not worth saying his name) to just simply bad (Glazers) ownership is a huge part of it. The Glazers have had spurts of having their heads on straight, but they are far from consistent. Lots of bad coaching and gm’s too, but it starts at the top in football, just like everything else in life.
When the above mentioned quarterbacks left the team, I could give a flying f what they did football wise unless they were playing us. Our team has been around for only 44 years, but we’ve wasted 20 of them on failed quarterbacks. Sad and pitiful. 😜
October 5th, 2020 at 9:00 pm
Wow – just now catching up on JBF site today, and seeing that there are 110+ posts on this topic. And no, I did not read all 110 posts. So here are my 2 Cents thoughts.
BA’s comments were vague, however like @Joe’s, I am not buying that BA’s comments were about the last year’s entire team. I think BA was throwing shade on JW, and blaming JW for his first losing record as a head coach.
BA’s mentality/behavior is exactly what will hold the Bucs back from winning a SB under BA as a coach. In history (I am open to being corrected), there has NEVER been a successful head coach, or SB winning Coach, or HOF Coach, who went out of his way to blame a former player, especially a QB, for a losing record. BA’s sentiments might have been shared in private circles, granted. But to be so public with comments — bad look, BA!
I find it SHAMEFUL that a 67 yr old Coach would go out of his way to railroad a young player like Jamies who still has a future in the league for purposes of cementing his own legacy. And yes, JW is 3rd string, yada yada. JW still has time. Move on, this is about BA.
Peyton M, Ben R, Andrew L were transcendent QB’s who would have succeeded w/o BA as their QB Coach, OC or Head coach. Those QB’s were incredible and superbly talented, BEFORE BA ever coached them. Lot of good coaches in NFL that might have impacted their success. Did BA help them or their careers? Likely. Yet, BA claims to be the QB whisperer because he had these once-in-a-lifetime QBs as his QB’s. Then add a 10+ yr Vet in Carson Palmer in AZ. (who threw the most INT’s in his career in first year under BA…hmm?)
I have a nice Job resume, albeit with some clunkers I would love to omit on my resume which would pad my success/results for future jobs, but I have to own the clunkers. BA chooses to conveniently OMIT JW in his mentions as QB whisperer success. Pre 2019 season, BA said JW just needed a running game and solid D to be successful. Payton Barber – yikes, Dare – please? Rojo still has brick hands. D finally got their groove late in the 2019 year. And I’m not making excuses for JW. My post is about BA. What did BA do as QB whisperer during last year’s season to change the dynamic for JW, other than saying, KEEP SLINGING IT??? (and gain 20 lbs to take hits)
Brady is an AMAZING, 20yr, 6-Ring Vet, who is delivering what we expected. I suspect BA is going to claim “Whisperer moniker” for Brady now? Fine.
Brady is a UNICORN QB, and is THE coach on the field for Bucs. So lucky Bucs have Brady paired with amazing weapons (ME13-stud) and a D that is reminiscent of Brooks/Sapps time. Yet – be aware, fans. BA’s “chickens will come home to roost”. And wonder who he will blame at that time?
October 5th, 2020 at 11:14 pm
Anyone ever heard of defensive stops last year. Winston played only on offense. How you put up 30+ points a game and still lose?
October 5th, 2020 at 11:22 pm
Youngbucs did I lie about anything I post ? No can you be honest about how we are running the ball more and this is not the same playbook just like I said it would be in the summer .
October 5th, 2020 at 11:41 pm
The love and hate affair with the most polarizing football player of all time, Famous Jameis Winston, continues! Brady has 2 pick 6’s and is on pace for 8. Jameis never came close to 8 pick sixes. #TradeBrady #ShutUpBruce
October 6th, 2020 at 12:27 am
Um…7 pick sixes is close to 8.
October 6th, 2020 at 7:06 am
It’s hard to take an article seriously where the author refers to him or herself in the 3rd person. I’ve heard of JBF before, but never read much and now I won’t bother.
Defending Winstonberger is just a method to grab eyeballs. Joe did not defend Jameis Winston in this post. There’s nothing to defend. The Bucs moved on from a consistently average quarterback to a consistently better quarterback.–Joe Joe I guess based on the # of comments it worked.
Is Brady still great? Too early to tell but I love his competitiveness and thanks to Anthony Lynn and his OC’s brain collapse at the end of the first half, they let the Bucs back into it, and then TB sliced them up in the 2nd. But that deep out pick 6 was a near repeat of week 1, just the other side of the field. Thrown a bit late, way too inside…has to be a concern. But the way he spreads the ball around is beautiful. If they get Godwin back it will be a fun offense.
The prior QB was given 5 years and somehow thought he would be entitled to a huge contract. No one wanted him. The Chargers could have had him, but drafted Herbert instead. I’m not sure if Brees got hurt that they wouldn’t just go with Hill anyway. It’s great that we don’t have to watch him throw terrible picks any longer. Bad person, bad QB.
October 6th, 2020 at 4:38 pm
This years Bucs team is greatly improved in all facets, from kicking, running, O-line and defense.
That’s not the same as saying it was all Winston.
Btw, Brady is on record interception and pick 6 pace already.
Winston beat Matty Ice and ATL as well as took Russell Wilson and the Seahawks to overtime with the 30th ranked rushing attack and the 27th ranked defense.
The great Tom Brady would have been knocked out and demolished if he played for the Bucs last season.
At least 10 interceptions were due to reciever error.
Let’s not forget crucial drops and missed key kicks.
Winston set another NFL record for passing yards as well as passes downfield.
I understand that pigmentation is correlated to QB tolerance. Btw, how’s Fitzmagic doing?
**Jameis Winston has the same career numbers as Peyton Manning had 5 years into his career.
Peyton turned out alright.
October 6th, 2020 at 5:02 pm
@Big E buc fan: really ??? Your avting l8ke the whole team is completley different now with brady ha ha how about players jumping on board just to play with brady luke fournette saying for the first time he has a qb…and if all you idiots think winston would be in first place in the division right mofo please check yo sheet it never happend with Winston oh he beat Atl wow everyone does chexk yo sheet Brady is takingba very talented last place team to first in thier division with very good chances in making the sb..did JW have sb chances??? HELLL NOOOO …check yo sheet!!! Look at daks numbers and they cant win a game check yo sheet Brady is straight up methodically marxhing the ball down the field and guess what he dont need to run either nobody is faster than a throw …and a running qb has never won a sb or much less made it a SB can did it and got his ass beat by denver check yo sheet!!! The GOAT is here ladies and gents get ready for a SB go bucs!!!!!
October 7th, 2020 at 8:58 pm
You are so dumb man!! Lol 🤣. …… The colts game came to mind because it’s the ONLY game in which Winston actually won the game for them!!! He was horrible man and wrong for this system!! HE LOST GAMES FOR THEM!!! Just because he had one moment to shine and actually completed the come back with a win just means the colts were unlucky!!!! ….
October 12th, 2020 at 1:08 am
Brandon,
You forget the two touchdowns dropped by Mike?