Was Brady Set Up?
September 18th, 2020Very telling film study and information offered by NFL Films of last week’s Bucs loss to the slimy Saints.
Yeah, everyone is making a big deal of the pick-six thrown by park-violating, home-invading, NFLPA-ignoring Bucs quarterback Tom Brady.
But in the following feature created and distributed by NFL Films, it sure smells to Joe like Brady got hung out to dry on the play.
Per NFL Films, three times in the first half, the Bucs had a receiver run an out-route known as a “spray release,” though Brady didn’t always throw to that receiver.
As we know after the game, Janoris Jenkins, who had the pick-six, said it was a “Tampa play” because the Bucs ran that route often last year. And after seeing it three times in the first half, Jenkins was just waiting for the Bucs to try it again.
Like a hawk waiting for a rabbit to leave the brush, Jenkins pounced.
So Joe has to lay this at the hands of offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich. Even he should know that if you run a pattern more than a few times, sooner or later your opponent will catch on and sniff it out later.
From the way NFL Films told the story, it is almost as if the Bucs telegraphed what was going to happen before Brady released the ball.
.@JjenkzLockdown and the @Saints defense came prepared for the Bucs spray release, forcing Brady into a crucial mistake in week 1.#NFLTurningPoint pic.twitter.com/K40NJTXy7v
— NFL Films (@NFLFilms) September 17, 2020
September 18th, 2020 at 9:09 am
I think as the season progresses, BL will lose his job calling plays like last year.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:12 am
The OC situation may be worse than I thought if Saints are having nicknames for our plays.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:14 am
That’s not how Greg Cossell saw it. Was on Herd and basically stated receiver ran the correct route and Brady made a bad throw. If he threw it better, no pick. Maybe JJ was onto something but Cossell did not see him as jumping the route and it would have been a completion of Brady executed the play.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:15 am
Reminds me of last year! How many of those out patterns went for pick 6 last year. Same damn play!
Wake up Leftwich!
September 18th, 2020 at 9:16 am
That’s not how Greg Cosell of NFL Films saw it. While being interviewed on Cowherd show he said JJ didn’t make a play on the ball, it was Brady who made a bad throw. Even went so far to say the WR ran the correct route and it would have been a completion of Brady’s pass was on target.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:21 am
Leftwitch & D. Smith are garbage. If BA doesn’t want to do the play calling, then let Brady call his own plays. Replace Smith. I don’t care how much money the lazy ass makes. Although with his lazy ass on the bench with his big salary (thanks loser Licht) he would be completely satisfied. Of course BA & Licht thinks he’s an all-pro.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:24 am
I hate that play.
Risk/reward doesn’t warrant the call.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:26 am
Leftwich ain’t no Sean Payton… early in the game the talking heads said that NO had something like 29 different looks for the same play… BL is a lot like Lovie
September 18th, 2020 at 9:27 am
It sure seemed like they knew that play was coming. Jenkins was not the only defensive player covering there were at least two and they were waiting on the ball.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:28 am
Oh by the way, I almost forgot my joke of the day. BA thinks Lefty is a great OC and should be a HC. Now thats funny.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:29 am
TB12 on pace for 32 ints in BA the clowns pathetic outdated system. Only the Glazer owned bucs could turn the GOAT into a complete JOKE! You can’t build a winner with washed up coaches and quarterbacks.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:32 am
Predictable Byron, how about not running it up the middle every drive on first down.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:33 am
I think if there’s any friction brewing, it will come between Leftwich and Brady. Brady would get into it the Pats OC who has a much better resume then Leftwich. Leftwich play calling is a bit predictable, our best shot is once Brady has some depth into the play book, he starts calling audibles and running the offense with Leftwich listening in.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:40 am
I agree with Joe on this one.
My greatest concern is that Leftwich is going to sink us. CLEARLY Any Offence (unless it keeps on working time after time) HAS TO change up the approach.
Thus far Leftwich seems EXTREMELY 2 dimensional. He seems to see in only right or left versus Horizontal, Vertical, and multi Angled. And his menu seems VERY LIMITED…
I guess I take it back that my greatest concern is Leftwich continuing to call the plays. My GREATEST CONCERN IS THAT Arians keeps letting him do it..
September 18th, 2020 at 9:42 am
Mebbe it’s more like Brady is an old fossil who needs to retire. Bucs ownership got played again which is nothing new. The #2 QB behind the relic is a joke, too. Gabbert or whatever his name is. Good thing the Defense is improving.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:54 am
BL – calls play “pick 33 right”
Brady – “are you sure? I don’t think an interception helps us here.”
BL- “it got us to be the third ranked offense last year”
Brady – “I’ll try it, just this once”
BL – thinks “wow! Brady is a pro!”
Brady – executes play
BL – that worked great
Brady -“but now we’re down by 2 scores, we could have scored a td there and been winning”
BL – “we will worry about winning after the two minute warning. Let’s just focus on the next Ronald Jones handoff”
Brady – “wtf did I do?” “I should have paid Brees to retire and became a saint. Maybe it’s not too late and I can get traded”
September 18th, 2020 at 9:55 am
I love it every time this ball is intercepted last year it was a quarterback’s fault now all of a sudden it’s the coach’s fault.
Unbelievable
September 18th, 2020 at 9:58 am
A good OC would show that look in the first half, and then in the second half, have the receiver move similarly off the snap, but at the top of the route turn up or in. Pretty basic stuff to fool your opponent. I’m starting to think our OC has no imagination and terrible game plans.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:59 am
After watching the video, it looks like a combination of a good read by the defense along with a bad throw by Brady.
The throw was a bit behind the receiver. If Brady had thrown it in front of the receiver, it would have been juuuuuuuust outside of the Jenkins catch radius.
‘Ish happens
September 18th, 2020 at 10:00 am
“Slimy Saints” I like that.
I don’t know about that assumption though. How many out routes are run by a receiver in a game? Probably more than 3 or 4.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:01 am
Ridiculous…..it was a terrible throw……way behind Watson…….look at it again…..a decent throw is a completion……Jenkins did nothing but make the catch…..set up my a$$…..
September 18th, 2020 at 10:04 am
Meanwhile, 31 other general managers, head coaches, team assistants, team scouts, ect….saw the same exact things on film that our GM, coaches, assistants, and fans saw. They all saw that Jameis Winston is a bust and will be a backup QB or bridge-the-gap QB. He’ll never be a franchise QB again.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:09 am
No ndog, it was all the receivers’ fault last year……..
Remember?
September 18th, 2020 at 10:10 am
I swear we need to throw that play out of the fcking play book forever. After hearing this Bruce ought to run it as a turn and go after lol and bomb it to miller down the sidelines
September 18th, 2020 at 10:17 am
i thought the throw was a little behind the WR….
so if we put up 30+ vs CAR and get the W, will folks give BL credit or will they say brady/BA called the plays?…lol…
ON TO CAR!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!
September 18th, 2020 at 10:18 am
Watching it live and then playing it back slowly had me come to the conclusion that the ball was thrown to the inside and behind the receiver. I can’t say whether or not Watson was on his mark; however he did nothing to create separation at the break. Watson ran a lazy route and Brady likely threw a poor pass. We’ll see if this continues all year or they get better each week. Only time will tell.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:18 am
I knew Leftwitch was going to have a target on him this year. My prediction is he doesn’t last the season and this will be Bruce’s last year too. Todd Bowled will be the HC next year.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:21 am
its friday…lol…
i cant believe we havent had an article about our week2 opponent….
CAR gave up 34 to the raiders…jacobs ran all over them…
ON TO CAR!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 18th, 2020 at 10:24 am
🤔
September 18th, 2020 at 10:26 am
shouldnt the QB have known that as well? i mean this is a fault on all ends. you said jameis would never change the play well brady should have changed it there and honestly it was not a good throw. it reminded me of the exact same thorw to the same WR on the other side of the field last year against houston.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:26 am
Smashsquatch Says:
September 18th, 2020 at 10:18 am
Watching it live and then playing it back slowly had me come to the conclusion that the ball was thrown to the inside and behind the receiver. I can’t say whether or not Watson was on his mark; however he did nothing to create separation at the break. Watson ran a lazy route and Brady likely threw a poor pass. We’ll see if this continues all year or they get better each week. Only time will tell.
BINGO!!!!!!!
simple timing issue combined with Watson running a bad route…..
folks looking for a scapegoat after week1…lol…
R-E-L-A-X…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 18th, 2020 at 10:31 am
I just hate that play. How many of those did Jameis have picked last year? Throw the play in the trash. It IS trash. Try a friggin slant instead maybe.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:33 am
I just don’t understand why he didn’t throw the screen. It was open.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:40 am
That was a bad throw. You CANNOT throw an out pattern behind the receiver. That ball was behind the receiver and it was easily picked off. Bad throw.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:42 am
Ndog: I’ve been thinking the same thing…every time Mr. 5000 threw a pick, it all fell on his shoulders…he had a slow release…he couldn’t read the DEFENCE fast enough…he could never find his secondary reciever…he locked his eyes on his primary reciever …can’t change plays at the line of scrimmage…all on Mr. 5000 ….now we have the GOAT, with all his football acumen…and look what happens, and the YOU PEOPLE MOVEMENT has to find a scapeGOAT! BRING BACK Mr. 5,000 at least he would fight the entire game!! I didn’t see that from NE12, I saw no in my 300 voice…”This is where we fight”…HENNY AND HOG…get yo-self some…SHAKEN but not STIRRED!!
September 18th, 2020 at 10:44 am
That 3rd read – wide side short out – “Spray” route was a pick6 maker for more than 1 QB in BA’s system…..But it sure didn’t help that TB12 was late on the route & throw was way off / behind his target.
September 18th, 2020 at 10:47 am
A bad game from Tom Brady = 2 interceptions
A bad game from Winston = 5 interceptions
September 18th, 2020 at 10:47 am
Which black guy are you all going to blame when Leftwich is gone??? Todd McNair’s fault that Brady is dogsh*t????
September 18th, 2020 at 10:51 am
D-Rome
“Meanwhile, 31 other general managers, head coaches, team assistants, team scouts, ect….saw the same exact things on film that our GM, coaches, assistants, and fans saw. They all saw that Jameis Winston is a bust and will be a backup QB or bridge-the-gap QB. He’ll never be a franchise QB again.”
31 GM, teams blah blah blah- all kiss BS the propaganda master, mr. cools, rear until they realize how much of a lazy fraud he is, by watching him butcher an opportunity to win games with the GOAT, and then publicly trash talk him.
Winston got railroaded, publicly thrown under the bus by this loser coach and GM to save their own behinds publicly.
The talking head, lemmings, group thinkers bought it hook line and sinker and Winston’s stock went down (temporarily) despite being the reigning NFL passing leader.
every qb aside from Rothlesburger three the most pics of their career w BS at the helm. All because his fraud wears a Kangol hat and has a book deal and a sound byte every week, he gets away with it.
It’s going to come to a public and embarrassing end
Check yo sheet
Make Jameis Great Again
September 18th, 2020 at 11:01 am
Beginning to think that Arians is a snake oil salesmen. Bowles may be the only
Good coach on the team. Bryon is a joke.
September 18th, 2020 at 11:07 am
@Marine Buc … “A bad game from Tom Brady = 2 interceptions. A bad game from Winston = 5 interceptions.”
Another perspective Marine: If Tom Brady throws 2 INTs per game, he’d exceed the 31 INTs that Jameis threw last year. Reality? Can’t really tell much from ONE game.
The 2 INTs certainly didn’t help, but they didn’t lose us the game IMO. Saints not only wanted it more from the very start, but they were also much better coached on offense & S/Ts (our defense held up reasonably well all things considered). Our play designs & play-calling just seemed to be too plodding & ‘predictable’. Someone needs to light a fire under some butts. And oh ya, ME13 needs to sit until his hammy is REALLY healed (anyone else notice him dragging the leg between plays?).
September 18th, 2020 at 11:10 am
Regardless of the play call why is it that its overlooked that it was a bad pass thrown by Brady. We he threw the ball he knew it was a bad pass. Also why is it that every time Justin Watson runs a deep out it turns into a pick 6? Now on the other hand you have to give the DB some credit for jumping the route. Even if the ball is place in a good spot if the DB recognizes the route they still can under cut the route. Bottom line no excuses this year. Super Bowl or Bust. It doesn’t matter who messes up we need to call them out. Lets not forget this offense his high risk reward and turnover so it comes with the territory. So I expect Brady will turn the ball over regardless because of this offensive scheme.
September 18th, 2020 at 11:16 am
I’ve been saying since last year that Byron Leftwich is a crappy OC. Hopefully more will see it. Jameis was a poor decision maker but it wasn’t because of Leftwich, but he sure didn’t help him.
September 18th, 2020 at 11:17 am
Jeff-
just beginning?
September 18th, 2020 at 11:29 am
I think it’s a combination of predictable play calling, bad throw/ decision making, and lack of confidence in his LT. If you look D.Smith gets killed and Brady releases the ball early. Lots of bad.
September 18th, 2020 at 11:35 am
1 game.
Calm down.
September 18th, 2020 at 11:56 am
Ndog and his trusty sidekick…. big racist ladies and gentlemen.
Righting all the systemic wrongs that this franchise has committed against the Soiled Messiah.
True warriors!
September 18th, 2020 at 11:59 am
Y’all don’t listen to nothing it was a screen that was there rb was wide open!!! Brady made bad choice end of discussion 🤯
September 18th, 2020 at 12:05 pm
That play was brutal and got uglier with every replay. The goat got milked dry.
September 18th, 2020 at 12:16 pm
Brady made a bad decision. But of course some one has to try an get the poor me racist crowd going again. It’s Friday and you are still dwelling on last weeks game. I can’t imagine why. Or can I?
September 18th, 2020 at 12:30 pm
Thank you Youngbucs people watch the play again the screen to the left was going to be a big play. Brady didn’t let it develop and then threw behind Watson. However I will agree that BL play calling and this scheme is nothing to write home about.
September 18th, 2020 at 12:34 pm
Youngbucs I thought Brady was going to make all the right decisions when he throws the ball . I told all yall that Bruce Arians offense is not a good offense . I’ve heard all last year that it was Jamies fault . And the pass was inaccurate when Jamies threw a interceptions . But for Brady it’s the receiver fault are he’s in a new offense so give him a chance . And this was my favorite excuse that Brady shouldn’t have to throw the ball across the field . But Jamies was supposed to and I told yall that Brady looked bad the pass 2 years and if we can’t run the ball we are going to lose . Brady looked bad whe the Patriots couldn’t run the ball . But all yall said it was his weapons and now he had every thing he needs even 4 runningbacks . I told you superbowl or bust no excuses ……
September 18th, 2020 at 1:18 pm
Please, please, please just win a game so we can shut these people up?! PLEASE?!
My goodness. All week they’ve talked about Brady’s poor play. Now that they’re dissecting the play and say it’s a bad play and bad coaching, you complain that they’re not blaming Brady!
September 18th, 2020 at 1:23 pm
From ONE game “we” have determined that we should not have brought in the GOAT and have retained Mr. Turnover himself.
Mr. Turnover who, through FIVE years was the league leader in….
….I know, I know “but 5,000 yards”!
It’s just sad.
September 18th, 2020 at 1:26 pm
When stuff like this keep surfacing; it makes me re-think the firing of Winston….🤔
September 18th, 2020 at 1:27 pm
When I played WR as a teenager we would run a similar route two or three times early in the game to hopefully bait the CB. You see eventually we would run the route and pump fake that route and the WR would turn up field down the sideline. We called it a chair route and it worked like a charm. Gotta have the CB try to jump the route though. If he does it was all over because the safety could not get to the sideline quick enough.
September 18th, 2020 at 1:27 pm
When stuff like this keep surfacing; it makes me re-think the firing of Winston….🤔
September 18th, 2020 at 1:30 pm
When stuff like this keep surfacing; it makes me re-think the firing of Winston….🤔… and by the way, with this kind of playcalling…..you guys really think that Carolina will be a walk-in-the-park kind of game?
September 18th, 2020 at 1:48 pm
I think Brady probably gave Leftwich the benefit of the doubt last week. I would expect him to start calling more of his own plays on the field as the season goes along.
I do not like seeing a QB that’s been in the NFL for as long as Brady staring at the play sheet on his forearm every time a play call comes in. It seems like they’re forcing the Arians offense down his throat instead of letting him do what he’s comfortable doing.
Leftwich will sink the entire season if they aren’t careful.
September 18th, 2020 at 1:52 pm
These routes need to die. They were stupid calls last year to ask Winston to try and throw them again and again and they’re ever more stupid this year with a 43-year old QB. You don’t see many other NFL teams asking their QBs to make these types of throws WITH GOOD REASON.
September 18th, 2020 at 1:55 pm
No one forced TB to throw the pass. He’s a 20 year vet. So, blaming Arnold Jackson Leftwich for that ain’t right.
September 18th, 2020 at 2:03 pm
Look at the play in question. It’s all on Brady. You’re supposed to throw that right before the receiver breaks towards the sideline. Brady threw it after the break. Jenkins reacted to the break, so that half second between when Tom should have thrown it vs. when he did was the difference between an INT and a completion (or at worst a pass breakup). Tough to tell if that’s Brady being hesitant because of not being comfortable in the offense or because of age. My opinion is that it’s the former.
September 18th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Bronna Taylor 🙄 … Don’t date major drug dealers and your chances of being shot by a cop go down to zero!!! When are we going to inject personal responsibility back into this country!?!
September 18th, 2020 at 2:17 pm
Oneilbucs Says:
September 18th, 2020 at 12:34 pm
Youngbucs I thought Brady was going to make all the right decisions when he throws the ball . I told all yall that Bruce Arians offense is not a good offense . I’ve heard all last year that it was Jamies fault .
Hi, I’m here to plays devils advocate. Isn’t that the same offense that turned out a 5k yard passer? That offense can’t be all that bad
No, you heard it was JW’S fault last year along with the previous years. Again, he has been a turnover machine since entering the league. Correct me if I am wrong but doesn’t he lead the league in turnovers since entering the league?
September 18th, 2020 at 3:47 pm
Tackleblockwin- B-I-N-G-O!!!
September 18th, 2020 at 3:48 pm
951- “Correct me if I am wrong but doesn’t he lead the league in turnovers since entering the league?”
Unequivocally CORRECT!
September 18th, 2020 at 3:59 pm
TOM Says:
“Leftwitch & D. Smith are garbage. If BA doesn’t want to do the play calling, then let Brady call his own plays. Replace Smith……….”
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Boy, I agreed 100%……nothing to add.
September 18th, 2020 at 4:28 pm
Etzel- I was thinking the same thing. From Jameis to BL and D.Smith. The best part is they read the article and watch the video that clearly states it was a designed play (screen pass to Fornette) to the left and Brady switched it. There answer is that it the OC’s fault.
BTW spray is a release technique not a play call.
September 18th, 2020 at 4:57 pm
Leftwich was terrible early last year, then he got called out by publicly by Arians to open up the offense and things looked much much better. The actual playcalling was more diverse and less predictable until the end of the year when everyone went down at WRs and we had bums we never heard out in there on 3rd down.
Arians needs to do his chewing out, because that Saints game was a terribly called game – everyone in the chat during the game was calling what was coming up next, he was ultra predictable. If people just sitting at home on their fat rear ends can figure this stuff out, coaches who get paid 7-figures can certainly do so as well.
BUT, going back to last year, how different would things have been if Arians had been calling plays himself. Would our now 26-year old 5000+ yard 2nd most TDs 3rd leading scoring QB have played even better? I have not doubt.
September 18th, 2020 at 6:49 pm
Didn’t Arians say a few days before the Saints game that the Bucs were going to use 25% (or something like that) of the playbook? The Saints game was our preseason. Sunday hopefully will see a more expanded playbook.
September 18th, 2020 at 7:56 pm
What a inch of fair weather fans. You guys stink. You know who you are.
September 18th, 2020 at 7:58 pm
I’m not blaming Brady just like I didn’t blame Jamies for every interceptions last year . But the only thing I’m trying to show yall is regardless of who the quarterback is if you don’t have a running game it makes it hard to win . I was telling yall this last year and during the summer . Yall told me it was just another excuse for Jamies . Brady is 43 years old so I never expect him to play like he’s 23 . Bruce Arians offense is outdated and we should have just brought in the Patriots offense for Brady and let him be a game manager . We could have let Rosen learn that offense and we would have been good .
September 18th, 2020 at 8:57 pm
Ive been screaming for this clowns head since before he ever called his first play as a bucs coach. He was an average at best qb, and he has never been succesful as a play caller. Jameis regressed in his fifth year which just doesnt usually happen as bad as he did, and now a six time super bowl winning qb comes in here and stinks up the joint?
Wake up people.Byron leftwich will NEVER be in the same conversation as a top, or even above average play caller.Jameis made Byron look good and Byron made Jameis and is now making Brady look bad.
Byron Leftwich is the Mike Smith of our offense and I called it the DAY he was hired, just like I called it the DAY Smitty was hired.Look at what Bowles has done with this defense.
Changing the playcalling and putting Brady in charge of the game plans will make for a quick 180 turnaround.
Weak link leftwich will make this team lose against any legit opponent , and Arians is responsible for keeping him around.
September 18th, 2020 at 9:19 pm
Sooooo…let me get this correct, BA’s system is out dated ….but bring in Old GOAT’s system from NE, which he has been in for the past 20 years, I’m putting down the HENNYl…please somebody make this work for me!! Why can’t we just say no OTA’s and no SPRING TRAINING is not a good mix for a QB changing teams and systems….he’s THE GOAT, not SUPERMAN, not a FOOTBALL GOD!!! HENNY AND HOG…get yo-self some!!! SHAKEN but not STIRRED!!!
September 18th, 2020 at 10:28 pm
There was NOTHING wrong with the play call. It was terrible execution by Brady.
He threw the ball late and behind the receiver. If he throws it just before Watson makes his break and throws it to the outside shoulder, it’s probably a completion…
At the very least, it’s an incompletion.
Poor execution and Brady can’t make that mistake. That’s some Jameis Winston quarterbacking…
September 18th, 2020 at 11:05 pm
Let’s be real here ,,,, there were at least 6 picks ( half of a good qb year), AT LEAST 6 that the D knew the exact play that was coming ,,,,,, I’m not talking about good or great technique , I’m talking Byron doing the exact same play script …….. go back and look at the int s on first drives and crucial third downs
September 19th, 2020 at 9:05 am
I’m not going to let yall used Leftwich as the new scapegoat. Right now it looks like that Brady was the worng quarterback for this trash playbook .