“Every Year We Had A Stacked Roster”
July 6th, 2020
In 2017, the nation watched quite a proclamation on Hard Knocks before the same decree was made by a Hall of Famer in 2018 and the boss of the Bucs in 2019.
Then-Bucs coach Dirk Koetter stood in front of his team three years ago and said the Bucs were the most talented team he had seen in Tampa Bay since arriving as offensive coordinator, including his 9-7 club from the year before.
Father Dungy lauded the Bucs’ playoff talent in 2018. And Bucco Bruce Arians dropped the hammer last June. “Talent is not the issue here, is it?” Arians said. “We’ve got plenty of f*cking talent.”
Defensive end/tackle Will Gholston has been around these parts since being drafted by the New Schiano Order in 2013. He’s been making big money for the past three seasons and told WFLA-TV last week that he’s fired up to see how Tom Brady works and leads, and what it’s like to grind with him in practice so Gholston can gauge the change in the team.
“Every year we had a stacked roster, but I want to see if we do what we got to do,” Gholston said.
Yep, “stacked roster” — and a couch seat in January after a 3-5 or worse start to the season.
Joe will beg the football gods to stop the torture of innocent Bucs fans.
Gholston said he and fellow linemen are busting their butts to be ready for training camp, which has Joe all fired up. Hopefully, that also means Vita Vea’s hand surgery isn’t overly debilitating.
“I can’t be accountable for everybody else, but I know most — not even most — all of the D-linemen right now, we’re working, the interior D-linemen,” Gholston said.
July 6th, 2020 at 2:36 pm
“If” the Bucs were so talented, and”if” games will be played this year, then why will there only be about 5 starters left from the 2018 opening day starters????????? That is HUGE turnover!!!!!!!!!! Of course the sheep and Ira have She-mc93 already in the ring of honor, and that is proof that most have overestimated the talent on the roster for many, many years!!!!!!!!!!!!
7-9 losing season, against a very soft schedule, especially the back end of Backup QB’s!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let the excuses flow sheep, and how it will be “SO” different this year!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2020 at 2:45 pm
ElBucoRealisto needs to be blocked. If for nothing else for the overused punctuation.
July 6th, 2020 at 2:47 pm
No preseason games Brady will not have time to adjust to the new offense. I can see all the excuses lining up. 1 and 3 out of the gate. Depending if there is regular schedule we will have time to recover. If there is only 8 or 10 season we are done.
July 6th, 2020 at 2:56 pm
Little Bo Peep you are still as useless as ever, you are not read worthy and you are always losing sheep.
Some of you take this game way too seriously. If you can’t enjoy this offseason acquisitions, you are beyond help and should immediately move over to European Futbol, once there you can whine about all the flopping.
In BA I Trust!
July 6th, 2020 at 3:12 pm
There is 40+ percent roster turnover every season Realist your argument means nothing.
July 6th, 2020 at 3:12 pm
Let’s look at the player shuffle:
Offense loses……Winston, Barber, Perriman, Dotson
Offense Gains……Brady, Gronk, Vaughn, Wirfs, Haeg, Johnson
Defense loses…..Nassib, Allen
Defense Gains….Winfield, Davis
It appears (appears) that the Offense has strengthened and the Defense has not improved.
The wild card here is the additional experience gained by the young secondary.
If we can maintain our run defense while improving our secondary, we should be solid on defense.
If the Oline is improved enough to help our running game with Rojo & Vaughn….then it also should be improved…..
Notice….I say “appears” and “should be”…………we have to prove it on the field.
July 6th, 2020 at 3:13 pm
And that’s every team.
July 6th, 2020 at 3:15 pm
And….does anyone know what has happened to Defense Rules?
July 6th, 2020 at 3:38 pm
This is good stuff, Joe. Thanks. So, I don’t think Koetter was wrong. Going back and looking at the amazing individual pieces, they should have been GREAT that year. But a group of individuals don’t always make a good team…and we know that all too well in Tampa.
July 6th, 2020 at 3:52 pm
I think it really comes down to the team’s leadership and not beating yourself. Winston never saw interceptions as a problem until he didn’t have a job. In fact, he was asking for $30 million a year. I think both the Bucs and Winston will grow a lot from absolute certainty turnovers are unacceptable.
July 6th, 2020 at 4:28 pm
No te olvides de decir “pan duro viejo”, El Buco Realisto.
July 6th, 2020 at 4:50 pm
Defense Rules is still bummed out that he is anti fascist.
He can’t figure out how it happened.
July 6th, 2020 at 4:52 pm
Fair enough, Joe
July 6th, 2020 at 4:53 pm
Tampabaybucsfan,
Yup!
July 6th, 2020 at 4:54 pm
Real, give it up. Joe’s not paying you enough.
July 6th, 2020 at 5:39 pm
Doctor Stroud
Sour dough
July 6th, 2020 at 5:41 pm
What year was that!!
July 6th, 2020 at 5:49 pm
Man, the crazy people on this site are still finding ways to make this about the best defensive tackle we have ever had outside of sapp
July 6th, 2020 at 6:45 pm
Saints shall send brady into retirement the right way with Tampa out of playoffs
July 6th, 2020 at 6:53 pm
Much of the time, we were playing with only 10 men on offense…
Even 3/4 or half the QB Brady was should be a massive improvement..
Don’t help the other team score twice a game and they would have won several more games these past few years!
July 6th, 2020 at 7:09 pm
Hi folks!! GO BUCS!!
July 6th, 2020 at 7:10 pm
@El Buco Realisto you couldn’t be more correct!!!n This organization has been all about excuses for how many years?? What a joke TEAM GLAZER is.
July 6th, 2020 at 7:37 pm
Nah, the Glazer fellas are coming on strong these days.
I like the moves they have been making.
GO BUCS!!!
July 6th, 2020 at 7:38 pm
How many sock puppets does Realisto own?
July 6th, 2020 at 7:40 pm
Some confuse excuses for reasons……there are reasons why a team loses….penalties, turnovers, poor kicking, talent-void, poor coaching,game-plans, schemes, and simply over-matched……
No excuses are permissible. But the reasons are undeniable and have been present for much too long.
What is truly inexcusable is a multi-year track record of poor draft choices.
July 6th, 2020 at 7:41 pm
I forgot injuries…..
July 6th, 2020 at 8:20 pm
We need to acquire more young assets across the defensive line.
TRADE FOR – DE/DT CHRIS JONES
Potential Line-Up
RDE Chris Jones
NT Vita Vea
LDT Ndamukong Suh
That’s damn near disrespectful. I mean who the hell do you block?
You would have to commit so many resources to Jones, Suh, Vita, Shaq and JPP.
That blitzing nickel back and or the inside backers would eat you alive. Bowles could run all kinds of games and stunts with Chris Jones in the lineup.
July 6th, 2020 at 8:29 pm
It doesn’t matter how much talent you have if you have a sub-standard QB.
That problem is fixed now, hopefully. Now we can watch for that talent to rise to the top, I think it will.
For me the question is special teams, the defensive backfield figured it out about halfway through last season. With a new free-range safety they will be as good as the scheme allows.
July 6th, 2020 at 8:44 pm
Stacked…LMAO
July 6th, 2020 at 9:19 pm
Test
July 6th, 2020 at 10:16 pm
TBBF
D.R. responded once over the Holiday He and the family were spending time on a Georgia Lake.
July 6th, 2020 at 10:31 pm
LUVMYBUCS: I appreciate your enthusiasm for the Bucs and always wanting to see the team improve, but Chris Jones makes $16 million for 2020. Kansas City just won the Super Bowl, I doubt he’s in a big hurry to leave.
July 6th, 2020 at 10:53 pm
Any word of any Bucs are thinking of sitting out the season? Am I going to be able to go to Vegas and watch Tampa roll Vegas? I’m thinking not
July 6th, 2020 at 11:42 pm
Patrick Mahomes just adds ten years to his contract which is now worth 450 million.
Covid may mess with contracts but not when you have Mahomes talent.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/07/06/patrick-mahomes-contract-extension-chiefs-10-years/
July 7th, 2020 at 12:11 am
Good for Mahomes. The Bucs have made their share of bad moves, but the Chicago Bears…I’m friends with a lot of Bears fans up here, and when they think of what the Bears could’ve had instead of Mitch Trubisky…That’s what makes the NFL Draft so interesting, you never know how it will turn out.
July 7th, 2020 at 9:02 am
When your QB gives the ball away at a historic pace and can’t make chain moving passes to extend drives, the rest of your team can be stacked and it won’t matter a lick.
I don’t think anyone truly realizes how many offensive drives were stopped by that guy. The interceptions were just a few pieces of a bigger puzzle. The amount of check downs he was late on and the times he couldn’t hit receivers in stride cost this team just as many points and first downs as the turnovers.
If it was just about the interceptions he would have found a team willing to pay him more than $900k. He has a slow release, slow read, and no control on his throws.
Imagine what he would have looked like with Brady’s supporting cast last year. Winston had two legit All-Pro’s to throw to. Brady had a mid-30’s slot receiver. Winston was just another long waste of time and resources.
July 7th, 2020 at 10:18 am
You do know when you lose the turnover battle consistently, you normally lose 80% of the time. With Jameis under center for 5 yearS, the Bucs have lead the league in turnovers when the league average is down. You can’t consistently expect to overcome turnovers on a weekly basis.
July 7th, 2020 at 11:32 am
“ If” the Bucs were so talented, and”if” games will be played this year, then why will there only be about 5 starters left from the 2018 opening day starters?????????”
Evans
Godwin
RoJo
D Smith
Marpet
Jensen
Brate
Howard
Well gee, that’s more than 5 of the same people just on offense alone…
I’m shocked that rhealist is wrong yet again. Just shocked.