Bruce Arians’ Thought-Provoking Matt Gay Quote

July 29th, 2020

Matt Gay had a rough December, and it seems Bucco Bruce Arians knows why.

But Arians isn’t sharing. Arians was asked about his 26-year-old, second-year kicker yesterday and Arians dropped this somewhat cryptic answer.

“Yeah, I think he learned a lot of things about life off the field in the NFL and how it affects on-field performance,” Arians said of Gay.

“Up [through] November he was having a heck of a year and then he had a bad December. We’ll find out if it was a rookie wall or if it’s a problem. If it’s a problem, we’ll fix it.”

So was something happening off the field in Gay’s world that crept into his kicking? That’s what Arians is implying.

Hey, life happens and kickers are human. But a lot of NFL players have serious personal issues and perform. (Joe could rattle off so many good ones that don’t belong on these pages. Imagine being an NFL player and getting evicted from a Tampa apartment complex because you didn’t pay rent, or imagine securing an in-season protective order so your ex-girlfriend won’t attack you again.)

Joe hopes whatever Arians was referring to is in Gay’s past. Joe would far prefer that Gay’s December struggles were tied to a one-off situation rather than a long-term mentality or mechanics issue. The previous rookie kicking savior battled both.

123 Responses to “Bruce Arians’ Thought-Provoking Matt Gay Quote”

  1. BigHog Says:

    This guy Gay cost Mr. 5,000 his future with the BUCS ….fix it!!

  2. DBS Says:

    Mr Pick6 cost himself his future with the Bucs!!!!

  3. Rayjay1122 Says:

    People have to stop making excuses for Winston. DBS is exactly right!

  4. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Yes, Gay cost Mr Pick 6 his career with the Bucs smh

    But 5k yards!!!

  5. Rayjay1122 Says:

    Football is a team sport. Some positions can be more influencing on outcomes of games. QB and kicker certainly are 2 such positions. If we miss 3 kicks that affect the outcome ore throw 3 pick 6 that affect the outcome, well that right there is 6 losses. Can’t go to post season like that.

    Brady will handle his part. We need Gay to be much more consistent on extra points and the short ranged kicks that he frequently pulls wide of the uprights.

  6. Bucsfanman Says:

    Um, well, in summation:
    Kicker cost us games…
    QB cost us games…
    Defense cost us games…
    Coaching cost us games…

    As to anyone’s “future”, that has always rested on the shoulders of THAT individual.
    I’m pretty sure that Matt Gay didn’t throw 30 INTs, nor was he on the field for those, so…

  7. Clean House Says:

    Jameis Winston led the NFL in total offense.
    Check yo sheet

  8. Jim Says:

    I do think kicking is a bit more “mental” than other positions. Wishing the young man good luck…

  9. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Matt Gay had his firstborn just before the season started……the first 6 months of that experience could have some ups & downs…..other than that, I think his off-field is solid.

  10. Ian Hoeckel Says:

    Drop it already with the 5k bragging. It was a result of the Arians offense and the weapons at the skill positions! Blaine Gabbert or Ryan Griffin could have played 16 games in that offense and topped 5k yards. If any GM in the league thought that 5k pass yards was an automatic qualifier to be a starter, than Jameis Winston wouldn’t be a third stringer a year after leading the league in passing offense.

  11. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Did he not say it was the extreme winds in the north end zone? Gay would of never made in the old Giants Stadium. They used to open the end zone doors before an opponents FG attempt to swirl the winds.

  12. Cobraboy Says:

    @tbbf: yep, that first child and the pressures (and lack of sleep thereof) could have an effect.

    Not to mention moving from the LDS womb in small town Utah to a wide-open Sin City could also have an effect.

  13. BigHog Says:

    Ian: man done bump your head …if that is so, when Mr. 5,000 got hurt, one of them would have played!!!

  14. SB Says:

    BigHog Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 9:41 am
    This guy Gay cost Mr. 5,000 his future with the BUCS ….fix it!!

    Yeah Gay committed 38 Turnovers costing the team 140 points.
    Dumbest comment of the year so far by the biggest Dumba$$ Racist on this site
    Congrats Big Racist!

  15. Ndog Says:

    Ian Hoeckel Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 10:10 am
    Drop it already with the 5k bragging. It was a result of the Arians offense and the weapons at the skill positions! Blaine Gabbert or Ryan Griffin could have played 16 games in that offense and topped 5k yards. If any GM in the league thought that 5k pass yards was an automatic qualifier to be a starter, than Jameis Winston wouldn’t be a third stringer a year after leading the league in passing offense.

    See this ⬆️ is what I’m talking about.

    8 people that have walked the planet earth have thrown for 5,000 yards in a NFL season and they have played 100 seasons. And people want to give credit to everyone but the person who did it.

    What is going on in this world?

  16. Ndog Says:

    SB if you can’t admit that Matt Gay lost us at least two games last year then I simply don’t know what to tell you my friend.

  17. Cobraboy Says:

    @Ndog: I guess 31 other NFL teams aren’t giving Jameis Christ credit, either.

    They’re all RAYSSIS!

  18. Ndog Says:

    Where did I mention race?

  19. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Funny how 5 years of failing with Winston some of his closet loves wanted to keep him around, yet wanted Gay gone after a few bad games. Listen Up: Peronal issues or not (they do happen), if Gay doesn’t perform he won’t last the year…despite the Bucs being much less forgiving to him than they were to JW3 who kept the Bucs in the dumpster.

  20. gp Says:

    Yet another story line stolen by the JW clan
    Perhaps this year we won’t be relying on the kicker to win games?

  21. stpetebucsfan Says:

    When you think of all time great NFL players…Namath..Unitas…ok enough old school LMAO…Montana…and yes BRADY…what do you think of immediately?

    Great plays under the brightest lights…great plays in the season when the pressure to perform was at it’s highest.

    In short…disagree with me but IMHO most folks think of GREAT players as being CLUTCH…MONEY…pick your term.

    Seriously…NDOG…Clean House…Big Hog…can you honestly say during his Buc career JW EVER gave the impression of being “money” or “clutch”?

    Name the plays where he was clutch and let us match the MANY failures including the ultimate choke when it was ALL on the line at the end of the season.

    If you guys wish to yammer on about Gay’s missed kicks being the reason for JW’s demise you have to at least confess that if JW lead the team down the field for a game winning drive against Atlanta he would STILL be here!

    Remember what Arians said walking off the field after that game?

  22. Bucsfan951 Says:

    I swear I am so happy to have the puppy back. I truly am!

    How do run a successful business when you lose money nearly half the time you do work?

    I mean, isn’t that what throwing a football is? Jw has 33 “jobs” in the green (tds). Making that money!

    And then he had 30 “jobs” in the red (ints). Lost money! Ouch!!!

    How do you run a successful business like that?

    Don’t give me any crap about how 5k is profit. He might’ve been very proficient in yardage but at the end of the day, it doesn’t mean a damn thing if you lose money in half of your jobs!

    But guys like Npuppy and big hog don’t understand facts like this.

    Some people are business owners and leaders, some are ditch diggers.

  23. BA4President Says:

    Nice one @gp

  24. stpetebucsfan Says:

    NDOG

    “8 people that have walked the planet earth have thrown for 5,000 yards in a NFL season and they have played 100 seasons.”

    Can you EVER provide even a scintilla of balance? SERIOUSLY!

    Balance would follow your first sentence with this one.

    ONE person that has walked the planet earth has thrown for30 TD’s and 30INTS
    in a NFL season and they have played 100 seasons.

    Why confine JW to the top 8 when he’s clearly NUMBER ONE in an area?

  25. Ndog Says:

    gp Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 11:31 am
    Yet another story line stolen by the JW clan
    Perhaps this year we won’t be relying on the kicker to win games?

    You must not realize that almost everyone of Tom Brady’s biggest wins came at the foot of a kicker. Including the one at RJ when he turned the ball over twice whereas our QB turned it over zero times, yet Brady’s kicker was perfect (4-4) while ours missed every FG (0-3) he tried. BTW we lost by 5 points.

  26. Ndog Says:

    stpetebucsfan Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 11:46 am
    NDOG

    “8 people that have walked the planet earth have thrown for 5,000 yards in a NFL season and they have played 100 seasons.”

    Can you EVER provide even a scintilla of balance? SERIOUSLY!

    Balance would follow your first sentence with this one.

    ONE person that has walked the planet earth has thrown for30 TD’s and 30INTS
    in a NFL season and they have played 100 seasons.

    Why confine JW to the top 8 when he’s clearly NUMBER ONE in an area?

    All I ask is if you are going to argue please make sense.
    There are QBs that have thrown 30 or more picks before the only difference is they didn’t also throw for 33 TDs. Again to my point it’s cute the whole 30 for 30 thing but it has zero substance to it when you completely ignore that first of all it’s not 30 for 30 it’s 33 for 30 and also when a QB plays for a team with a historical bad defense and basically no running game yes he is going to throw more picks cause he is their only chance to win and everyone knows it! I have said it before and will again. If we had any team around OUR QB last year this team would have been 11-5 last year while changing nothing about the QBs performance.

    8 Giants game defense and kicker were horrible
    9 Seahawks defense was horrible
    10 First Saints game defense and oline were horrible
    11 Second Atlanta game our kickers missed 3 FGs and our defense gives up 2 4th quarter drives to tie the game

    Heck we could have even gone 12-4 if the ref is not an idiot and first blow the whistle in the Titans game.

    So if you guys want to sit around and act like the QB is why this team didn’t win last year that’s fine by me but the FACTS say different no matter how many 30 for 30 jokes you want to make. And that’s not even counting that we lead the NFL in penalties.

  27. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Jesus we talk about Saints players in every comment section now.

  28. Bucsfan951 Says:

    For my boy NPUPPY

    winston tds and ints by quarter:
1st quarter: 8/10

    2nd quarter: 15/6

    3rd quarter: 4/3

    4th quarter: 6/10
ot: 0/1
    throwing attemps 1-10 in all the games: 6 tds/11 ints
    ints within their own 1-20 yard line: 8 ints

    ints within their own 21-50: 16 ints

    This shows jw got the team in trouble early and often. 24 ints in their own territory!

    But wait, there’s more….

  29. Bucsfan951 Says:

    For my baby PUPPY

    1. Niners game. Lost 31-17. Points off Winston t/o: 15
    2. Panthers game. Lost 37-26. points off of Winston t/o: 16
    3. Titans game. Lost 27-23. Points off of Winston t/o: 14
    4. Saints game. Lost 34-17. Points off of Winston t/o: 14. Also had an int at the saints 1 yard line. Should’ve scored td. That’s actually 21 points lost.
    5. Colts game. Won 38-35. Points off of Winston turnovers: 14
    6. Texans game. Lost 23-20. Points off of Winston turnovers: 10 points. Also int on a game winning drive with 1:31 to go.
    7. Falcons game. Lost 28-22. Points off of Winston turnovers: 13 points. Pick 6 to end that game and perhaps his Buccaneers career.
    10 games with multiple ints.

  30. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Sorry, I do it to piss of the Saints fans that are on this page…

  31. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Fair enough.

  32. TampaTown Says:

    I thought he couldn’t make kicks in the south end zone.

  33. Ndog Says:

    Like I said change nothing about the play of the best QB this franchise has ever had from last year and if we had anything around him we go 11-5. There is no argument to that FACT no matter how much anyone wants to scream about interceptions.

  34. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    Being Gay is a hard job. Try handling all those balls he has to handle each and every day.

  35. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    I didn’t know Ndog was talking about Jeff Garcia or Doug Williams.

  36. Oneilbucs Says:

    Gay lost 3 games for us regardless how yall feel about Jamies. Gaints, Seahawks , Falcons , we would have made the playoffs . So if the same thing happens this year will it be Brady fault or his ??

  37. Ndog Says:

    No player has ever lead the league in passing and the next year not been a starter for his team.

    No player has ever thrown for 5,000 yards and not been the starter for next year.

    So everyone seems to think we are going to be the first franchise to do both of the above and it’s going to work out.

    👍

  38. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    You know he isn’t a starter on any team right?

    Why is that?

  39. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bucfan51 The Falcons game he missed 4 field goals . If he makes 1 kick we win .

  40. Ndog Says:

    Fun fact Doug Williams highest QB rating while with the Bucs is lower than Jameis’s lowest. Let that sink in folks, let that sink in. Doug Williams wasn’t half the QB Jameis is, and it’s not even close.

  41. bucsfan951 Says:

    oh no!!! i dropped FACTS on the PUPPY and then he comes back with “Like I said change nothing about the play of the best QB this franchise has ever had from last year”

    hey PUP, without horrible turnovers by the qb, the defense could look better than what they appear on paper!

    i think we can all agree that the qb, kicker, defense, run game, and o line could use improvement from last yr.

    but you cant deny the turnovers didnt kill this team. you simply cant deny that

    you cant think that after doing your job (defense holding up) the offense comes onto the field and turns the ball over. what do you think that does for the morale of the defense?

    i guess you like doing your job,start to take a break, and then have to go right back to working due to your co worker not doing his job. you tell me you wouldnt get mad at your co worker for not doing their job?

  42. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    LOL Ndog the way QB was played 3 decades ago WAS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and much more complex then it is today.

  43. Ndog Says:

    Tampabuscsbro Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 12:59 pm
    You know he isn’t a starter on any team right?

    Why is that?

    Easy answer, perception.

  44. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    HOL UP

    What perception what perception would sway 32 NFL GMs and organizations?

  45. bucsfan951 Says:

    oneil

    read my post above. same could be said for jw, too!

  46. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bucfan51 the bad part is that we had a young quarterback that kept us a top 5 ranked offense every year he’s been here with no running game . So I think that’s what a lot of seen the past 5 years. And our defense gave up the most yards in passing . But I respect your opinion bro we just disagree on that situation.

  47. Ndog Says:

    The year the Bucs went 10-6 with Williams here was his stat line:

    41.8 comp% 2448 yards 18TDs 24 INTs

    He threw 6 less picks than Jameis in only 397 attempts, which is 229 less than Jameis!!!!!!!

  48. Bush's Coke Spoon Says:

    Bucsfan951 Says:
    “But wait, there’s more….”
    .
    .
    ROFL

  49. Ndog Says:

    Change nothing about the play of the best QB this franchise has ever had from last year and if we had anything around him we go 11-5.

    TOs had nothing to do with the Seahawks, Giants, first NO game or the last Atlanta game if there was a TEAM around our QB, period end of story.

    No cares about how people look on paper I watch the games and saw our defense get torched time and time again by Brissett, Murray, Wilson, Bridgewater, Brees and Matt Ryan carved us up in the 4th quarter of the last game. TOs had nothing to do with that happening and you can believe the media narrative that this defense wasn’t that bad but I watched it every week and outside of a few games vs bum QBs they were absolutely THAT BAD!

  50. bucsfan951 Says:

    oneil

    fitz had the offense humming, too! where his credit?

  51. bucsfan951 Says:

    ndog comparing todays qbs to a qb from the 70’s/80’s haha

    now ive read it all!

  52. bucsfan951 Says:

    again npuppy

    read above! same could be said for jw during games last season.

    why dont you answer me on if you would be mad if you had to go back to work due to your co worker not doing his job?

    answer me that question

  53. bucsfan951 Says:

    oneil

    i got you. jw did great things. he has potential. but again, turnovers kill! its just that simple. clean up the turnovers and play smart ball and jw will be a great qb.

    you dont win games turning the ball over on average 2 times a game. toss in that 7 of them are automatic tds…

  54. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bucfan51 fiz had 2 good games and with the second game you have to put to good halfs to make 1 game . The first game the saints played the run even Payton said that . The second game against the eagles he had 1 good half when the eagles found out we couldn’t run the ball we only scored 3 points the hold second half he couldn’t do anything else. Then the Pittsburgh game we know what happened the first half and the second half they played prevent and he put up points but they started back playing hard and he couldn’t do anything . That = to 2 games but you see the main problem is running game that’s been the only real problem on our team . Now that we have Brady everybody in the national media is talking about we need a balance offense now that Brady is here . I think this was a bad idea . But that’s just my opinion.

  55. Steven007 Says:

    Ndoo, using your logic neither Bradshaw nor Namath would be in the Hall of Fame but wait for it… JW would! Haha 😂

  56. Rayjay1122 Says:

    Sad part is that a Bucs life dictates tha1. We spend 1st overall pick on QB.

    2. QB does not get 2nd contract.

    3. QB gets vision corrected and is signed by division rival.

    4. Takes over after Brees departs and torches Bucs for years to come.

    I hope that does not happen of course but it is the historic trend with our Bucs.

  57. stpetebucsfan Says:

    NDOG

    Do you suppose a QB who is more concerned about ball security holds the ball when he could have had a TD on occasion. Many simply decide that the ratio of TD to INT is unacceptable.

    IE…If you constructed a chart for all 32 QB’s and told one group bombs away we want TD’s at any cost…one group was told be very cautious…and the third group like Brady were told…take your shots WHEN you have them….the resulting balance of TD’s and INT’s would be very predictable.

    Let any NFL QB have 30 ints without getting BENCHED and there is a good chance he could toss 30 and 5000 yards.

  58. Ndog Says:

    Um 951 Jameis has had to deal with his entire team not doing their job since the day he got here. Have you been watching? Remember the Capitol Collapse? The Patriots game I referred to earlier, the Thursday night Falcons game where he was almost perfect but we lost? This has been going on for 5 years!!

  59. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bucfan51 the things I have against Jamies is to me he tried to hard . Sometimes a quarterback needs to play for him self like Rogers does . But to me it still on the coaching staff to give him what he needs to be successful . They should have gave him more of a short passing game with a running game because that’s what ever young quarterback needs when you go to a 2 and 14 team . And the bucs put everything on him and told him that it’s all on you . Remember he was just 20 years old and not to mention that the national media hated him from the jump. Look how they cuddle Sam Donald.

  60. All lives matter Says:

    Prior to being drafted didn’t Gay already have mental issues he had been dealing with? I seem to remember an article scribed by JBF about his mental journey to the NFL.

  61. Joe Says:

    Prior to being drafted didn’t Gay already have mental issues he had been dealing with?

    Yes.

  62. Ndog Says:

    stpetebucsfan yes that’s a valid point and exactly why you don’t see any team worth anything put 100% of the success of the team on one player. This is an overall organizational failure and why blaming the one person trying to win games alone is criminal.

  63. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    How do you claim to know anything about football when you compare how QB was played in the 70’s and 80’s to today. Like it’s hand in hand.

  64. SufferingSince76 Says:

    Geez. Here we go again.

  65. Ndog Says:

    In addition doesn’t it make you all sick that Jameis, or anyone really, has had to deal with the garbage this franchise has had around him his whole career and now that we finally have at least a decent defense Mr. Silver Spoon himself gets to walk in and have it all just like he has his entire career? He’s gotten to play for the greatest coach ever, some of the best defenses ever, two of the best kickers ever, the best TE ever, the 2nd best WR ever and now he lets a young QB deal with a complete rebuild them swoops in to take his job just when it’s ready to roll. To me it is disgusting and I can’t stand him more than I did before which is pretty much impossible to believe.

  66. Ndog Says:

    So was the stat below ever good regardless of era?

    41.8 comp% 2448 yards 18TDs 24 INTs

  67. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Hey Ndog answer the question why Jameis is a backup if he is anywhere near as good as you say it is.

  68. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    also about doug williams that one year is below average by era.

    Also how is it disgusting that Tom Brady went to a team he wanted to in FA?

    we upgraded at QB.

  69. Ndog Says:

    Tampabuscsbro Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 1:56 pm
    Hey Ndog answer the question why Jameis is a backup if he is anywhere near as good as you say it is.

    Perception

  70. Ndog Says:

    Tampabuscsbro Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 1:58 pm

    we upgraded at QB.

    We did not upgrade at QB

  71. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    What perception?

  72. Ndog Says:

    The same perception quite a few people around here had about him before he was drafted that has nothing to do with football.

  73. Bucsfan951 Says:

    So NPUPPY, the difference from last yr to this yr is that much? Setting the signing of Brady aside, the team has gotten that much better from last yr to this yr? All of the problems (in your eyes) have been fixed through free agency and the draft?

    That’s what you’re insinuating when you say “ to take his job just when it’s ready to roll. ”

    So you’re telling me the team is over the hump due to this yrs f/a and draft?

  74. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Rayjay

    You left out .5) Monkey’s fly out of my butt. JW torching us for years to come will happen about the same time.

  75. Cobraboy Says:

    Ndog Says:

    The same perception quite a few people around here had about him before he was drafted that has nothing to do with football.

    a) Immaturity?

    b) Turnovers?

    c) Emotional outbursts and temper tantrums at his coach?

    d) Rapes?

    e) Crablegs?

    f) Obscene speech?

    g) Something else?

    h) All of the Above?

    Which one?

  76. Ndog Says:

    Bucsfan951 Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 2:28 pm
    So NPUPPY, the difference from last yr to this yr is that much? Setting the signing of Brady aside, the team has gotten that much better from last yr to this yr? All of the problems (in your eyes) have been fixed through free agency and the draft?

    That’s what you’re insinuating when you say “ to take his job just when it’s ready to roll. ”

    So you’re telling me the team is over the hump due to this yrs f/a and draft?

    Um in case you missed when the defense started playing better and we still had Godwin and Evans we won 5 in a row. So yeah we were going to win this year, health provided, with Jameis just as much or more than with Brady. Of course now Brady also has the benefit of Gronk so that cannot be ignored.

  77. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Oh yes, the 4 (not 5) game win streak

    The one where the defense got 12 turnovers within that time.

    Jw had 11 tds to 7 turnovers.

    And they really faced some stiff competition… I mean, falcons, jags, colts and lions were really tough opponents! All teams who finished below 500 by the way.

    You keep doing you, NPUPPY!

  78. Oneilbucs Says:

    Cobraboy Brady curse out his coaches on the side line plenty of times but that’s call passion when he does it . Rape charges not guilty . And crab legs was because the wrong person was working that night . I’m sure those players got free stuff from that store. And remember big Ben was convicted and paid off 2 women. And the other stuff he was just being a young guy just like Payton Manning and that trainer .

  79. Youngbucs Says:

    😭😭😭😭😭

  80. Oneilbucs Says:

    This Brady thing I just don’t know he looked bad last year when he didn’t have a running game .

  81. bucsfan951 Says:

    oneil

    ill take 2019 brady numbers over 2019 jw numbers all day long!!!

    one had 8 ints the entire year while one had 7 pick 6’s alone hahaha

    not even close!

  82. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bucfan51 I understand when you talking about numbers because Brady ain’t going to take chances like Jamies had to but the only thing is that we don’t have a defense like the Patriots.

  83. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bucfan51 And Brady ain’t throwing the ball down field like Jamies either. The running game has been the problem with our team not the quarterback . Jamies is 26 years old and came to a bad team and every category . But we will see what happens because that’s all any of us can do .

  84. Oneilbucs Says:

    Ndog they just don’t understand what we are talking about when comes to football . It’s a team sport and Brady is used to playing on complete teams and we ain’t one of them . Our defense is not superbowl ready .

  85. Ndog Says:

    So 951 you’re saying the defense isn’t that good?

  86. stpetebucsfan Says:

    It’s a bit amusing. A thread about a second year kicker exploded with over 80 comments.

    But not because of the kicker…but because the kicker happens to be JW’s most convenient excuse…and there are sooo many excuses gotta go with convenience.

    So how many QB’s have five years to determine their future with a franchise and it comes down to a rookie kicker missing a couple of kicks?

    So the JW debate continues unabated and probably will until JW finally fades away like an old soldier.

    I’m honestly curious as to whether JW dresses for that first game against us.
    Am I mistaken or are NFL teams only permitted to dress two QB’s? Or is that just a custom? If JW doesn’t dress he obviously will not be able to hurt us.

  87. Bucsfan951 Says:

    NPUPPY

    I know you’re reading comprehension skills aren’t the best so here we go. This was said previously by me.

    “i think we can all agree that the qb, kicker, defense, run game, and o line could use improvement from last yr.”

    Yes, the defense is unproven and until they can prove they can put it all together for more than 4-5 games, they aren’t that good in my eyes.

  88. Bucsfan951 Says:

    O’Neil Says “ Ndog they just don’t understand what we are talking about when comes to football”

    No, I do understand. Jw is that dude who starts the house fire and then occasionally saves everyone.

    Again, 24 ints within bucs territory and 11 ints between throw 1-10 to start a game. That’s called shooting your self in the foot.

    Do you understand what type of “football talk” I’m talking about?

  89. Bucsfan951 Says:

    St Pete

    I hope jw does dress AND play. He’ll spot the Bucs 14 points from his turnovers.

  90. gp Says:

    Bucsfan951 Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    St Pete

    I hope jw does dress AND play. He’ll spot the Bucs 14 points from his turnovers.

    Actually, it would be twelve points.
    The kicker *still* has to add the extra points!
    Remember the kicker?
    What the article was about?

  91. bucsfan951 Says:

    gp

    two tds and a safety… duh!

  92. gp Says:

    bucsfan951 Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 5:15 pm

    gp

    two tds and a safety… duh!

    Ya got me there! LOL

  93. SB Says:

    Ndog Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 10:48 am
    SB if you can’t admit that Matt Gay lost us at least two games last year then I simply don’t know what to tell you my friend.

    ……..

    First off, I am not your friend. Secondly if you can’t admit that your Love lost us at least 3 games then you aren’t worth talking to.

  94. Ndog Says:

    So SB I noticed you didn’t dispute that he lost us 2-3 games. So avoidance is your game I see. See unlike most I will readily admit Jameis played poorly in some games BUT he has a tad more to do than a kicker, or do you think their jobs are equal? People miss the entire point, in that if the team around a QB doesn’t do their job a team won’t win games. See while people want to blame one player the reality is nothing will change if the defense and kicker play the way they played most of the past 5 years regardless of who’s playing QB.

  95. Youngbucs Says:

    😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🙄

  96. bucsfan951 Says:

    NPUPPY

    in your eyes, how many games did jw lose for the bucs last season?

  97. SB Says:

    N……..So glad to see that you know more than at least 32 Billionaires
    And 32 Millionaire HCs.
    Just because you have to ask “would you like fries with that order” all day doesn’t necessarily make you smarter at football than them.
    However, if you want to think so then feel ‘free’.

  98. SB Says:

    Jameis is a Backup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Get through your thick skulls JW apologists!

  99. SB Says:

    SO Glad you are back N.
    Great to have humor here.

  100. Ndog Says:

    He lost one game the Houston game.

  101. Cobraboy Says:

    @oneilbucs: you don’t se a difference in a full-grown man chewingcon an NFL coach, and a punk college kid melting down and exploding at a college coach in the national championship game?

    You guys/gals/xirs are just *full* of Jameis Christ excuses.

    You might want to wipe your nose.

    There are reasons both Jameis Christ and Cam Newton had hard times fining jobs this season.

    Other QB’s? A seller’s market…

  102. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    The only thing that is inarguable is Jay Miss is #3 in NOLA, making about 1M. He and his agent had other thoughts about his value. They miscalculated the market. However, in a couple years Jay Miss will be flipping burgers if he’s a poor money manager.

  103. DBS Says:

    There is another thing you can’t argue. He Is Gone! No Longer A Buccaneer!!

  104. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Oh NPUPPY, 1 game? You don’t believe that do you?

    Geez PUPPY, do I have to do all the work? Let me refresh your memory of the 2019 season.

    1. Niners game. Lost 31-17. Points off Winston t/o: 15
    2. Panthers game. Lost 37-26. points off of Winston t/o: 16
    3. Titans game. Lost 27-23. Points off of Winston t/o: 14
    4. Saints game. Lost 34-17. Points off of Winston t/o: 14. Also had an int at the saints 1 yard line. Should’ve scored td. That’s actually 21 points lost.
    5. Colts game. Won 38-35. Points off of Winston turnovers: 14
    6. Texans game. Lost 23-20. Points off of Winston turnovers: 10 points. Also int on a game winning drive with 1:31 to go.
    7. Falcons game. Lost 28-22. Points off of Winston turnovers: 13 points. Pick 6 to end that game
    10 games with multiple ints.

    Might want to make sure you were watching the same game since you say you watch every single one.

  105. Oneilbucs Says:

    Cobraboy Jamies only lost 1 game in college so you called him punk . But Brady gets the pass maybe because he’s white.

  106. Oneilbucs Says:

    Cobraboy Jamies passed up money from Pittsburgh and it was more than what he got from New Orleans.

  107. Bucsfan951 Says:

    O’Neil

    Who reported the contract offer from Pittsburgh to JW?

  108. Oneilbucs Says:

    ESPN look it up …

  109. Youngbucs Says:

    Oneilbucs it wasn’t ESPN you don’t know who said it but continue lying I’m just sitting back taking it all in.

  110. Youngbucs Says:

    1 person said that but you’ll say anything to save face.

  111. SB Says:

    Ndog Says:
    July 29th, 2020 at 7:20 pm
    He lost one game the Houston game.

    ……………..

    LOLOL
    Just when I thought the dumbest comment in the last decade was already made!!!!!! 🙂
    You are the king N!

  112. Ndog Says:

    My memory is just fine I know who REALLY caused the TOs in the other games and I actually hold other players accountable I don’t look at a wrong route, a ball batted up in the air by a TE or a early snap off the face mask the QBs fault. I actually judge by what happens not what the narrative is.

    I’ve went game by game and you know it so I’m not wasting my time again. And frankly it is insulting people’s intelligence to say points off of a QBs TOs when anyone with eyes knows that many of the TOs were on other players. But that’s ok you keep posting clear fabrications I know the truth no matter how many times people post fiction.

    I love debating with you guys but I really can’t understand how you just choose to ignore the truth that is right there on the film, it is amazing to me, truly amazing.

  113. Ndog Says:

    For example 951, SB just do me one favor please, go to the Carolina game where Jameis had all the pics and look at the Chris Godwin interception and please tell me whose fault that was on that play?

  114. Bucsfan951 Says:

    O’Neil

    I just googled it… absolutely nothing on it. It comes up as an analyst saying he would be a good fit but absolutely nothing about them offering a contract.

    Do you want to try again? You have another outlet that reported it?

  115. Bucsfan951 Says:

    PUPPY

    You are a funny person! Absolutely funny! Yes, JW lost only 1 game with over 30 turnovers and 7pick 6’s… 1 freaking game!

    There’s absolutely no debating you. You think you opinion is the correct one and that’s it!

    Serious question and plz answer honestly. Have you ever been tested for any type of narcissism?

  116. Ndog Says:

    951 I don’t think only my opinion matters, I think only the truth matters. This is not a matter of opinion it is a matter of FACTS. Like I said go watch that play and tell us who’s fault it was?

    And to answer your question no I have not taken a test of that nature. And I’m wrong quite often trust me, but when something is staring me right in the face I don’t deny it either, that’s all I’m saying.

  117. Bucsfan951 Says:

    You use 1 or 2 times of someone else’s mistakes to mask the 30+ other mistakes.

    You swear like that doesn’t happen to all of the other qbs in this league for the last 100 years.

    Again, keep making the excuses for your boy.

    Here is a fun fact. He’s fighting for the #2 back up qb position. This after nobody wanted him as their starter.

  118. Ndog Says:

    Ok 951 I’ll quit trying to actually talk to you. Bye sir.

  119. Cobraboy Says:

    Oneilbucs Says:

    Cobraboy Jamies only lost 1 game in college so you called him punk . But Brady gets the pass maybe because he’s white.

    Really?

    Brady threw a temper tantrum at his coach in the national championship game?

    For real?

    And NOW you want to pull the race card on the GOAT?

    You got issues, young casual fan dude…

    And, no, I do NOT believe Jameis Christ had any other offers in the NFL.

    I suspect you and Ndog are giving each other reach-arounds, fappoing to a JC poster…

  120. Bucsfan951 Says:

    NPUPPY with that “I’m taking my ball and going home” mentality.

    Again, you don’t like what you hear and that’s it! It’s your opinion or no opinion.

    Narcissism level at 💯

    Don’t worry, I’ll continue to comment on your posts, proving you wrong!

  121. Oneilbucs Says:

    Cobraboy You call it race card but it’s facts and yet he still help his team won . But we will see what happens this year . But I can tell you this win lose or draw we have no future plan in place after this year and that’s the main thing you don’t understand. Brady is 43 years old and can’t move. Then he came to a team that can’t run the ball or the coach just don’t call run plays. And he came to a team that can’t stop a nose bleed and you really think that 1 guy is going to change that lol lol lol . And last year Brady looked bad with out a running game .

  122. adam from ny Says:

    is matt gay the next josh freeman?

  123. Bucsfan951 Says:

    O’Neil

    Still waiting on you to tell me who reported the jw Steelers contract offer…

    You better not tell me it’s a dude on Twitter with 3k followers bc that ain’t gonna cut it.