Troubling Words From Greg Schiano
June 27th, 2020
“Mr. Glazer, I have a confession.”
Some fans wonder why Joe trends a little negative when it comes to the Bucs.
The answer lies within the 12-season playoff drought and Team Glazer; ownership has screwed up far too many times.
This all bubbled to the surface again for Joe while listening to ousted former Tampa Bay head coach Greg Schiano on SiriusXM Radio this week.
Back now at Rutgers for his second stint as head coach, Schiano was asked what his big takeaway was from his NFL head coaching experience, something he brings to his current college program.
The former leader of the New Schiano Order in Tampa appeared to drop his guard a bit, sounded a little melancholy and got candid.
“I learned a lot in the NFL; you know, the first thing I learned is that I shouldn’t have left Rutgers [in 2012],” Schiano said. “I did it for the wrong reasons. I was afraid that we were going to end up with no league and I had been there 11 years.
“Opportunity came about that I wasn’t prepared for. I did it. I had promised our players that I had recruited that I would never leave for another college job. I wasn’t going to do that, but when Tampa came along, I did it.”
So Schiano now admits he was unprepared for the Bucs job.
Who’s the “laughingstock” now? Joe would pass that baton to Team Glazer.
Back in 2013, it was Schiano who explained to season ticket holders that he only got the Bucs job because the team was such a mess. And he said it while sitting next to his general manager, Mark Dominik, who was there during the prior regime.
Here’s Schiano’s 2013 quote: “… A situation that, quite frankly, nationally the Buccaneers were the laughingstock of the National Football League. Not bad. Laughingstock,” Schiano told Bucs suiteholders. “That’s why I was hired. If it wasn’t that situation, I don’t get hired.”
So let Joe get this straight: Team Glazer fired Raheem Morris because the feeling was the then-35-year-old coach had lost control of the team (after he was deprived of a legitimate free agency budget and in-house free agents he wanted to re-sign), only to hire a guy who admits he was unprepared (Schiano), and then eventually replace him with another guy who was completely unprepared (Lovie Smith). Next up was Dirk Koetter, whose regime crumbled in large part because of a lack of discipline and respect for coaches.
Who’s in charge?
Joe thanks the football gods daily that culture-changer-in-chief Tom Brady is in town on the heels of another losing season.
As for what Schiano said he actually learned with the Bucs that he uses at Rutgers, he said he learned the game belongs to the players and coaches need to emphasize that.
June 27th, 2020 at 3:54 pm
What’s that old saying? Sh*t rolls down hill? It all starts at the top, good or bad. The Glazers have to take their fair share of the blame.
June 27th, 2020 at 4:00 pm
Wow was that ever a hard time to be a Buc’s fan. Makes my stomach hurt even briefly looking back on the lost decade and a half
June 27th, 2020 at 4:13 pm
Breaking News, Greg Schiano was a terrible head coach for the Bucs.
June 27th, 2020 at 4:20 pm
What coach would have been prepared to clean up rah-rah and talk show Dominick’s garbage pile of a mess!!!!!!!!!!! I will wait for the name of that coach!!!!!!!!!!! Coach Schiano should be considered a hero for the garbage he tossed out of Tampa!!!!!!!!!! His downfall was that team glazer kept talk show dominick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 27th, 2020 at 4:24 pm
Looking at the positive…Schiano did get rid of Kellen Winslow 2. How could his behavior (on team flights, etc.) be tolerated?
June 27th, 2020 at 4:26 pm
There is one helluva difference between how you treat an 18 year old high school kid and a 25-30 year old professional athlete. You can’t pull the latter’s scholarship and you were never able to figure that out. Treat a man like a child and he will likely react badly.
June 27th, 2020 at 4:28 pm
Go BUCS 72…lol. I don’t need to hear Rockstar and Schiano telling me how sh!try Bucs coaching by baby Glazers since Gruden. I do know we have the GOAT QB with a great coaching staff that includes Tom which I’ll take all day.
#RedZoneKillas
GO BUCS!!!
June 27th, 2020 at 5:01 pm
Buc’s ownership is not the worst in the league, but it’s pretty bad nonetheless. Anything is better than scumbag Culverhouse though. If this Brady move works out, they should be able to get back into the fan’s good graces.
June 27th, 2020 at 5:08 pm
You had me until you said Lovie was “completely unprepared”. He took the Bears to the Super Bowl as head coach. How is that not someone prepared to be a head coach in the NFL??
Decision 1 – Hire Josh McCown to be our franchise quarterback
Decision 2 – Cut Darrelle Revis
Joe has a very long list. –Joe
June 27th, 2020 at 5:30 pm
Joe I luv my bucs been with’em since 1976 dude. But I’ve seen so many screwups from this organization. Seems like the old man Glazer was the only owner who knew what he was doing. I still don’t think his sons have a clue. I ride with my Bucs but I surely don’t die with them. I’m also among the minority here that thinks Both Brady and Gronk were terrible moves. But we shall see. Schiano though will be a much better college coach from his NFL experiences.
June 27th, 2020 at 5:33 pm
Another reason not to take anything Dominek says about football seriously. Maybe now we can stop seeing his mug on this blog.
June 27th, 2020 at 5:50 pm
The glazers are terrible owners. They went all in with brady at 43.
what could go wrong?
June 27th, 2020 at 5:51 pm
Maybe I’m wrong, but the Glazer kids sure seem to be more Hugh Culverhouse than Malcolm Glazer.
June 27th, 2020 at 5:55 pm
Joe, Lovie was prepared. He just sucked as our HC. He knew what he was doing, but he was dead wrong in what he was doing.
June 27th, 2020 at 5:55 pm
Maybe with all the changes happening in the world, the Glazers finally sell the team and focus on they’re true love of soccer. If Jeter made enough to buy the Marlins, maybe Tom and Giselle can buy the Bucs.
June 27th, 2020 at 6:02 pm
now to be fair there will literally never be another sports owner as bad as Hugh Culverhouse.
June 27th, 2020 at 6:11 pm
And comments and so called fans like Tampabaybucfan, are the “real” reason why the team has been so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a loser statement that was!!!!!!! No standards and apathic fans that not only tolerate this garbage, but “cheer” for it!!!!!!!!! It has been that bad because Tampabaybucfan and the sheep put up with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its sad to hear that the sheep still don’t know how bad the rah-rah and talk show disaster it really was!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy the losing, sheep!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 27th, 2020 at 6:21 pm
Lovie Smith was not unprepared. He made bad decisions. Big difference.
I would not say Koetter was unprepared. His #1 huge mistake was Mike Smith (I admit I for snookered by a flash finish by the D one season.)
I would not say Schiano was unprepared. His style did not work with his players. Maybe he thought he was “unprepared” because he thought toes-on-the-line would work in the NFL.
June 27th, 2020 at 6:28 pm
El Buco Realisto Says:
Tampabaybucfan farts better football than you even knew. In fact, Pablo farts better taco methane football than you ever knew.
But that “reality” aside, Realisto: you know what everyone at JBF likes about you?
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Not a gall dang thing…
You’re like a bloody hangnail in a pair of Allen Edmonds Graysons…
June 27th, 2020 at 6:33 pm
I wouldn’t call someone running a 1990’s/early 2000’s defense in 2014-2015 as being prepared. Teams had Lovie figured out, and he couldn’t/didn’t adjust.
June 27th, 2020 at 6:41 pm
I’m trying to remember what Lovie said after the embarrassing loss to the Titans the 1st game of the 2014 season…Did he say something like The Bucs weren’t ready, or The Bucs weren’t prepared?
June 27th, 2020 at 6:52 pm
Glazers are fundamentally bad owners and probably miserable people as well. Darcy has no business doing anything for a pro team other than picking lipstick for cheerleaders.
We’ve seen the results year after year after year after year.
Howard thinks they’re treading water until they can move the team…because, well….they’re about as loyal and sincere as weasels.
They’re all about short term quick fixes. Why? Because those are easy and require the least amount of effort. What they really like is money. Howard hypothesizes that there’s a lot of in-fighting between the siblings. You’ve got 4 spoiled brats who all want to be the leader. What could possibly go wrong?
June 27th, 2020 at 6:54 pm
Howard is amazed how little blame is thrown there way. It’s like the commenters here all work for the Glazers.
(Good God what a scary job that would be LOL)
June 27th, 2020 at 6:58 pm
They begged Gruden to return (after unceremoniously firing him and tarnishing his legacy with their Glazer dysfunction) but Gruden was way too smart to walk into that ambush….
……Arians was plan B
June 27th, 2020 at 6:59 pm
Remember that time Gruden was kneecapped by Monte Kiffin and then fired for it? Yep. Me too.
Thanks JP Peterson for driving that bus to crazy town.
June 27th, 2020 at 7:01 pm
Once again Cobraboy,
I agree.
Hodad,
You too.
Still waiting for the tragically confused Durango to show up.
June 27th, 2020 at 7:02 pm
Classic team Glazer!
June 27th, 2020 at 7:03 pm
If Howard had to bet, he would say the Brady experiment will be just another Glazer-bourne disaster by October
June 27th, 2020 at 7:05 pm
But Hey!,,,they got their quick fix of offseason relevance and that’s all they really wanted
June 27th, 2020 at 7:08 pm
Mark Dominik was the worst decision of all. He was so unprepared and unqualified. It’s the glazers but also the spineless wannabe rockstar who Joe loves so much.
Joe – no accountability for Dom. He sucked.
June 27th, 2020 at 7:09 pm
The Glazers building a real team, Bob Kraft style, is so far from reality it’s a joke. You’d be better off asking Kim Kardashian to run things
June 27th, 2020 at 7:10 pm
I hear you brain surgeons constantly bash GM’s and coaches….
Who makes all these countless bad hires???
June 27th, 2020 at 7:13 pm
TBBF is honored to be castigated by El SuckoPessimisto…….
pure jealousy…..fearful of the leader of the “sheep” the Good Shepherd.
June 27th, 2020 at 7:36 pm
Lovie is top 3 in being the worst Bucs coach in its history.
Worst List:
1) Leeman Bennett
2) Lovie Smith
3) Ray Perkins
June 27th, 2020 at 7:56 pm
@joe.. Get rid of elbuco retardo.. PLEASE
June 27th, 2020 at 7:57 pm
@Ocala
I agree with you, except, incompetent loser lovie, had full control!!!!!!!!! He had the juice!!!!!!!!! That makes that whole failure his!!!!!!!!!!! So incompetent loser lovie gets top billing as worst buc coach of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those were sad dark times indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 27th, 2020 at 8:03 pm
El Buco Realisto: Ray Perkins had full control, also. History repeats itself if something isn’t learned from it.
June 27th, 2020 at 8:07 pm
Greg Schanio was in over his head, tried to treat grown men like college kids. His drill Sargent mentality ruined more than just Josh Freemans career. He’s not able to coach at a high level as his recent past proves that.
June 27th, 2020 at 8:11 pm
Man I was really looking forward to seeing what he might do as defensive coordinator in New England.
June 27th, 2020 at 8:14 pm
Because of Man U I’m withholding judgement on the Glazers.
People can be hacked at that move but again it’s the American Way….greed is good how can you bust the Glazers for doing what any of us would have done.
That still leaves the Koetter/JW debacle. If BA turns this around then the Glazers would and should be seen as good owners,,.it it all blows up…then their record will truly suck. Man U is one excuse but that’s now long over. The Bucs need to reach the playoffs this year and be better than one and done by next year.
June 27th, 2020 at 8:48 pm
I love to tell all the bandwagonders and national idiots: BRADY WAS #5 QB IN 2018 AND WON A SUPER BOWL!!!!!
Who were you going to pick up in this very soft 2020 QB FA other than the GOAT QB?
What QB were you gonna trade up for in a pretty weak and questionable QB class?
#RedZoneKillas
GO BUCS!!!
June 27th, 2020 at 8:51 pm
^^And Jameis nailed his coffin with the Bucs week 17 OT^^
June 27th, 2020 at 9:01 pm
Ocala, the first name on that list should be John Mckay. He never did figure out what time outs are for.
June 27th, 2020 at 9:09 pm
Sheanus was like TBR…….a waste or time.
I don’t waste my time.
Go Bucs!!!
June 27th, 2020 at 9:35 pm
As I recall, Schiano was hired because he was a disciplinarian after Lovie Smith did such a horrible job and lost control of the locker room. He was super strict too.
He may not have brought us wins, but he DID get rid of the biggest behavior issues.
June 27th, 2020 at 9:41 pm
El Buco Realisto Says:
“…incompetent loser lovie, had full control!!!!!!!!! He had the juice!!!!!!!!! That makes that whole failure his!”
That’s bullspit.
Only in his first year did he have full control. From that point on he completely lost control. As you may recall, at the time he was fired I was in favor of it, but I was big time hard on Jason Licht, because I felt he was equally responsible.
But I will give him this: he’s grown as a GM since then. He’s still made some bad movies but he’s also made some good moves. Perhaps his best performance was getting us out of cap hell within one year.
And no, we are not in cap hell again. He used the cap he was required to use in order to build this year’s roster. Many of the veteran contracts end next year, which will free up a ton of cash.
We went into this off season with around the third most cap space. That, my friends, is amazing.
June 27th, 2020 at 9:52 pm
As Howard recalls serial pervert KW2 was running wild under Lovie.
Keep it classy Glazers!
June 27th, 2020 at 9:58 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai: It was Lovie, not Licht, who wanted Revis cut because “he didn’t fit his system”. If you have a Pro Bowl CB, one of the best of his era, you make your system fit Revis. To compound this mistake, Lovie signed a bunch of Bears rejects that knew his system, but weren’t good football players (Tim Jennings, Chris Conte, and Major Wright come to mind). As one of the Joe’s says, Lovie set the Bucs franchise back several years, and was one of the worst head coaches, IMHO.
June 27th, 2020 at 9:59 pm
So much fail, and complete dereliction of duty the last 12 years that it boggles the mind. At the very least the Glazers owe the Tampa Bay area an apology.
Howard won’t hold his breath. They probably think they’ve done a great job LOL
June 27th, 2020 at 9:59 pm
Howard: that was Raheem Morris. Schiano got rid of that creep, thank God.
June 27th, 2020 at 10:04 pm
Thanks. You’re right. It was Club Raheem, not Lovie.
To be fair, I doubt Lovie would put up with a blatant sociopath either
June 27th, 2020 at 10:06 pm
imo if Gump translates this current roster into winning I will be willing to look at him as a reasonable GM.
June 27th, 2020 at 10:07 pm
Amazing how KW2 got away with that stuff given how the Glazers keep a close personal eye on the goings-on with their team.
BWAAHAHAHAHA!!!
June 27th, 2020 at 10:08 pm
I’ll be here all week! (Unless the Glazers send their goons to my IP LOL)
June 27th, 2020 at 10:10 pm
Raheem’s famous quote “I will tolerate you until I can replace you”. The first time I saw that perv rubbing out a chubby on a team flight, let’s just say I wouldn’t have tolerated that.
June 27th, 2020 at 10:13 pm
Howard: I dealt with Hugh Culverhouse as the Bucs owner. The Glazers are like Al Davis (before he became senile) compared to Culverhouse.
June 27th, 2020 at 11:02 pm
He was the down fall of the bucs . He got rid of key players on our defense . He’s the real reason we have been at the bottom .
June 27th, 2020 at 11:27 pm
He was better than Lovie and Raheem
June 28th, 2020 at 5:00 am
And…the relevance to how all this history impacts the Bucs in 2020?
Unless you histrionically enjoy stewing in the negative past, I’m not quite sure why the incessant need for self-flogulation.
Seize the NOW!
June 28th, 2020 at 6:57 am
Schiano didn’t ruin Freeman’s career. Cocaine allegedly ruined Josh Freeman’s career. Too many fans get that confused!!!!!
June 28th, 2020 at 7:58 am
“Blah, blah, blah……Coach Schiano should be considered a hero…..blah, blah, blah”, said El Dicko Realisto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just another example why El Dicko is truly a dumb azz wacko!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 28th, 2020 at 8:07 am
Who are the coaches hired by? Shouldn’t there be a vetting process?
Stop blaming coaches. Leadership starts at the top. It’s the foundation of the team. A team mirrors its ownership.
We KNEW Schiano was not prepared! We KNEW Raheem was not prepared! The jury remains out on Koetter but, they allowed him to retain Smitty 2 years too long, so.
It’s not a coincidence that the Steelers have had 3 HCs since the Buc’s inception. LEADERSHIP!
June 28th, 2020 at 9:14 am
You know who were unprepared? Brothers who inherited the team, barely did anything in their lives, and forced us to watch all the learning pains ☺️
June 28th, 2020 at 11:21 am
“…the game belongs to the players….” That is exactly what HC BA says time and again. Its their team, he can only prepare them to play.
In BA we trust!
June 28th, 2020 at 11:31 am
Joe in Michigan Says:
I first heard that from Willie Wood, my head coach in 1975. HE heard it from hios old head coach, Vince Lombardi.
I also heard it from Lou Holtz in 1976.
That saying has been around pro football since…well…pro football. Hell, Radio Morris’s parents weren’t born yet when that phrase was first uttered.
June 28th, 2020 at 12:55 pm
Cobraboy: You played for the Philadelphia Bell?
June 28th, 2020 at 2:53 pm
@Joe in Michigan: yes, 1975, one of my pro stops. Fun times. I love Willie Wood. We had quite the coaching staff there.
June 28th, 2020 at 3:45 pm
If the next two seasons are a failure with Brady and Arians, I won’t watch the games ever again until new owners come in. I mean anyone who can screw up that combination with Tod Bowles running the defense that would just be beyond pathetic. I don’t see this season being a failure but then again, Leftwich is still here anything could happen. Brady will get destroyed if he is told to hold the ball as long as Jameis did.
June 28th, 2020 at 3:51 pm
Cobraboy: Cool! Who was your favorite teammate? Coach?
June 28th, 2020 at 6:22 pm
@Joe in Michigan: several favorite teammates, some friends today, some RIP.
In no particular order, Vinnie Papale (he of Invincible, the movie), Ben Davidson, George Mira, Dennis Homan, “King” Corcoran, Tim Rossovich, Claude Watts, Greg Butler, David Knight, John Roman, Tom Schuman and Frank Polito.
Favorite coach, without question, Willie Wood and his staff (with Herb Adderly, Leroy Kelly, Myron Pattios, Bill McPeak and Frank Gallagher.) I also really liked Joe Gardi. I could tell stories…
It was definitely a different era of football than today’s modern game, for sure.
June 28th, 2020 at 10:31 pm
Cobraboy: Thanks for sharing! I’m sure you have some great stories to tell! I worked for a guy that played for Bill Parcells at one time (in college, Parcells was his Defensive Coordinator), man, that guy had some great stories!