“We Never Complained”
May 4th, 2020
You can like and respect a teammate while at the same time want to scream at the guy for his performance.
It seems Buccaneers savior linebacker Devin White had those kinds of feelings for his former quarterback, the Saints’ new $1 million backup.
Second-year man White told the Tampa Bay 55 podcast he was disappointed in his personal game and the performance of the Bucs last season. But White liked the way the defense gelled and kept its mouth shut in the face of failed offense.
“We was put in a lot of bad situations. You know, we never complained,” White said of the Bucs defense. “We tried to make the best out of it. Like so when we did get a lot of turnovers, our offense turned the ball over and, you know, it overshadowed what we did a lot. Or teams were scoring on us but they were starting close in their own red zone already. … I feel like we played our role and we didn’t complain, and I think that was the main thing that we did.”
Yeah, it’s hard to keep quiet when your quarterback gives the ball away like it’s Halloween candy. Or maybe Bucs players were too quiet? It was only White’s first season, but the Bucs had the highest percentage of drives end in a turnover last year and in 2018. And they were third-worst in that category during the 2017 season and fourth-worst in 2016.
Joe believes this was a revealing take from White.
On the positive side, White reflected back on his rookie season with a lot of love for Team Glazer and team programs that guide rookies to community service. White said he enjoys that most.
Time management represented a big change from his college days, White said, and he noted he put in a ton of work behind the scenes and added “a lot of people use their time differently.”
White brought up his 2019 exit meeting with Bucco Bruce Arians and said he asked the head coach, “Is there any possible way that we can keep our defense together?” He said Arians told him he would try his best and White said he was surprised by how well the Bucs did in that department, noting the defense is a very unselfish group and grew well together.
Nowadays, White said he is up daily at 5:30 a.m. working out in a home gym with a personal trainer, and then it’s all day riding and bathing his five horses himself and working the barn. Then he comes home and settles in with Netflix.
And White’s not complaining about that, either.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:09 am
This dude is gonna lead this defense for years to come. Has all the physical tools and seems to have his head on straight for a young player.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:13 am
Some of the “real” fans have been “complaining” about all the Buc’s being constantly in the top 5 of worst offenses giving away the ball!!!!!!! Glad to see the sheep “finally” recognize this as a problem!!!! But the problem is where were they years ago?????????????
Its another “Realist Repost”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Buc Realist Says:
April 19th, 2018 at 11:11 am
Joe needs to start posting about the “give a-ways” by the offense that negate takeaways!!!!! The offense has been at the bottom of give-a-ways for the last 3 years
2015 (28) tied 22nd
2016 (27) tied 24th
2017 (27) tied 26th
the offense has literally dropped the ball in protecting the rock!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 4th, 2020 at 11:15 am
If he doesn’t fall off one of his horses, I agree.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:16 am
“… …but the Bucs had the highest percentage of drives end in a turnover last year and in 2018. And they were third-worst in that category during the 2017 season and fourth-worst in 2016.”
Good G~d! I knew Winston was a turn-over machine, but this is the first time I’ve seen these statistics showing just how bad it was. Honestly, unless Brady completely and spectacularly falls off “the cliff”, I don’t see how the Bucs can fail this season.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:17 am
“We was put in a lot of bad situations. ”
We all saw it, unfortunately… 30+ times and usually from the very 1st drive of the game and right before half time.. to begin the 2nd half and even at the end with time working against the defense..
Rejoice now for all that is behind us, in the past to be forgotten, looking forward to glory days ahead…
It’s a new day in Tampa Bay.. a new season, new life, fresh hope, a renewed sense of excitement…
May 4th, 2020 at 11:24 am
Jamies supporters in shambles. In BA I trust
May 4th, 2020 at 11:24 am
Those end of year player review meetings with the head coach must have been very similar. Probably from offense and defense players
Decision making and turnovers the hot topc
In order
Brady bridgewater jameis that we’ve been told
Not sure about phillip rivers.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:28 am
Lesson of this story… use chrome instead of google!
“Yeah but lack of run game and kicking! Highest penalized team!”
May 4th, 2020 at 11:29 am
I guess being on a historically bad pace in passing defense, TDs allowed for the first 10 games didn’t matter?
May 4th, 2020 at 11:32 am
I hope LaVonte David gets the league wide recognition he deserves !
May 4th, 2020 at 11:33 am
It is not simply turning over the ball to the other team…..it is a momentum killer on one end and momentum gained on the other…..
How demoralizing it must be for a defense to work so hard to get the ball back to the offense only to have it turn the ball over…
Devin White will absolutely, positively ball out this year.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:34 am
So we are capitalizing the “V” in his last name now? How Rhonde of you.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:34 am
Bird they were discussed Godwin even said as much in an interview before.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:34 am
Well they say turnover differential is the #1 indicator in winning/losing typically… even over points scored.
And it’s ok to have turnovers if you balance it with production. 2 TD to 1 INT for example. Winston only needed to throw 27 more TDs to hit that ratio last year lol.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:35 am
Chrome is Google, no?
May 4th, 2020 at 11:35 am
great article on profootballtalk about the adjusted turnovers for Winston. Removes ints for passes off receivers hands or hail marys and adds INTS for dropped int by defense or being broken up by offensive player. Wintson leads in adjusted Ints with 40. Worst in history.
The pup wont like those stats at all but im sure there are good reasons why and he will explain them all to us.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:37 am
I think our defense scored the most tds in team history last year. For regular season only. Can anybody verify that?
May 4th, 2020 at 11:37 am
Nope. Carson Palmer and Andrew Luck each had 40 once, per a different stats outfit. Oddly enough, both came in their first year with Bucco Bruce Arians as head coach. 🤔
May 4th, 2020 at 11:37 am
But coach! I was partially blind, had a bad knee and needed better coaching. Thank God he’s in NO with better eyes, a repaired knee and better coaching. Hope he enjoys the back up role until they cut him.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:38 am
Yikes! It gets worse! According to an article in PFT, “Winston didn’t only lead the league in interceptions last season with 30. He also led the NFL in dropped interceptions, according to FootballOutsiders.com…That wasn’t just the worst total in the NFL last year. It was the worst total in the NFL as far back as Football Outsiders statistics can track adjusted interceptions, which is the 2007 season. Not only had no quarterback ever hit 40 adjusted interceptions before, but no quarterback had even had 35 in a season. The previous record was 34, set by Jay Cutler in 2009.” #PaidFloridaVacation
May 4th, 2020 at 11:39 am
Joe. article states they started tracking this stat in 2007 and previous record holder was 34 by Cutler in 2009.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:40 am
Joe Says:
May 4th, 2020 at 11:34 am
LaVonte
So we are capitalizing the “V” in his last name now? How Rhonde of you.
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Hugh Culverhouse…..What evahhh
you missed the point
May 4th, 2020 at 11:41 am
Pretty sad to see the sheep finally figure out what they should have known years ago!!!!!!!!!
Way to figure it all out now!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol!!!!!!!!!
It’s time to herd the sheep, and put them back in the pen!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 4th, 2020 at 11:41 am
I told y’all before watch the all22 film not highlights. He does see the field good people are open.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:42 am
Doesn’t
May 4th, 2020 at 11:43 am
This is perfect example of how subjective some stats are. The Tribe had a story a couple of weeks ago about “turnoverable” plays. Or plays that should/could/were turnovers by QBs. They had Jameis tied with Carson Palmer and Andrew Luck with 40.
Oddly enough, all three of those seasons came in those quarterback’s first years with Arians.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:46 am
Joe
Agreed stats can be deceiving and can be skewered to make their side of the story. Also think its interesting, not pointing to you, that people keep using the stats about other QBs with INT in arians first year. Int didnt just become a problem this past season for Winston. Its been his MO since college yet nobody seems to talk about that when they point to ARians first year comparisons. INT and fumbles have been a problem for him his entire career so maybe we can stop the ” Its Arians system” stuff.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:48 am
Anyone noticed that not a single player on the Bucs defended #3 during ANYTHING?
May 4th, 2020 at 11:51 am
Just read an article on prop football talk. A stats website published an article that jameis also led the league in dropped interceptions. They took out all interceptions that were by dropped or tipped balls by receivers and end of game Hail Marys and it would equate to 40 interceptions last year. The most ever since they started tracking that stat in 2007. Second highest ever was cutler in 2009 at 34. So purely his fault adjusted interception total last year should have been 40. And yet ndog and others still act like it wasn’t his fault. They talk like he is suddenly going to shake 2 years of college and 5 years of nfl high interception totals. He is who he is there is 7 years of tape now.
May 4th, 2020 at 11:54 am
I knew once he signed with another team we would start hearing some bucs players start to open up about how much they thought he was killing the teams chances week in and week out. I’m sure there will be plenty more of these stories especially the week before each game with the saints
May 4th, 2020 at 12:01 pm
Do you think Jameis complained about that s#$% defense he had to deal with for 4.5 years?
May 4th, 2020 at 12:14 pm
He contributed to the bad defense you speak of for 4.5 years.
May 4th, 2020 at 12:15 pm
Yeah I’m seeing just 30 INT for Luck’s highest adjusted total.
And only 18 real INTs as any high point for any year.. Both dramatically less turnovers and that was his rookie year not year 5 after having a bunch of other coaching.
May 4th, 2020 at 12:21 pm
And by the way the defense carried the team in weeks 1-2 don’t forget that.
May 4th, 2020 at 12:22 pm
We should’ve been 2-0 out the gate last season.
May 4th, 2020 at 12:23 pm
Funny ,i didnt see jameis complaining while his defense was crapping the bed agaisnt every backup qb the team faced.
May 4th, 2020 at 12:29 pm
Regarding Winstons interception 40 total from Rumor Mill
… It was the worst total in the NFL as far back as Football Outsiders statistics can track adjusted interceptions, which is the 2007 season. Not only had no quarterback ever hit 40 adjusted interceptions before, but no quarterback had even had 35 in a season. The previous record was 34, set by Jay Cutler in 2009.
Just saying…I guess it depends on how you analyze such things….
May 4th, 2020 at 12:37 pm
This dude is amazing!! I knew he was the right pick!! A linebacker can change a team!! Ask Nickerson!! ….. He is a leader and he may have been quiet last year cause he was a rookie but you better not slack on your job anymore!! Brady gonna teach him how to lead!!! Love this dude!!! And Winston is a joke and obviously his defense hated his play!!! Maybe liked the guy but hated him as their QB!! And I don’t blame them!!! What makes me the most upset is all the trash Winston has been talking!! Like he was balln and it was everyone else fault!!! He’s an idiot!!!! Idk how anyone can defend him after the comments he made!!! He’s so fake he just oozes fake!!! Like eating Ws and that aww shucks attitude!!! Fake fake fake!!!!
May 4th, 2020 at 12:41 pm
I love this and it’s typical Bucs fan. Lets all pile on one guy and we have a historically worst past defense last year for the first 10 games I wonder if James complained about the Rams game or after the Saints game, or after the Giants game, or after the Seahawks game, or after the Cardinals game we’ll just ignore all those right and say those didn’t happen with very limited turnovers in some cases none and God awful defense with points and yards going berserk from other team but I guess that’s fine right that’s fine.
May 4th, 2020 at 12:46 pm
Quick question how do you give up a ton of yards when working on a short field all the time?
Also where is the personal accountability on his end? So is he saying that they didn’t flat out SUCK in the FIRST 10 WEEKS OF THE SEASON!!?!?!?!?!
Please oh please someone come on here and try to say this defense was anything but pathetic most of the year, PLEASE DO IT!!!
May 4th, 2020 at 12:47 pm
Ndog 😭😭😭
May 4th, 2020 at 12:49 pm
Life can be funny. One persons obsession or totally engrossing hobby can be another persons addiction.
Luckily for D White his hobby/addiction is horses. That’s awesome on so many levels. I’m impressed that he still cleans his own barns in the off season…wonder how long that will last? I think that’s probably good for his soul and relaxing. Shoveling horse manure can have a perspective producing effect.
I’m sure he has a special bond with his animals, his family. He has an appreciation for their athletic talent.
I think that D Whites lifestyle removes most of the horrible temptations and replaces them with a very grounded and quiet existence away from the shouting and cheering of a football stadium.
May 4th, 2020 at 12:49 pm
“Maybe liked the guy but hated him as their QB!! ”
That is a concept that has been overlooked and even ignored by Bucs fans over the years.
Yes!. I have heard all the character flaw and situations he has been in… I get the negative response from those people..
I get the whole dislike because of the FSU connection and even the sad existence that it is because of race..
I never met the guy and will not stand I judgement over him as a person.. not my place!
But as a QB, he was a detriment to the team and a winning mindset… He was as much the problem as any others were..
NOW that those issues have been corrected, bring on The 2020 Bucs season!
May 4th, 2020 at 12:58 pm
Joe Says:
May 4th, 2020 at 11:35 am
Lesson of this story… use chrome instead of google!
Chrome is Google, no?
I don’t know, you tell me. You’re the computer dude.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:01 pm
I can’t imagine not being glad Jameis is gone , too hard to watch him throw the game with his pick 6’s Glad he is the Saints problem now. I was a supporter during the uber mess but the multipic games was a major downer.Thankyou BA for doing what was necessary to move on!
May 4th, 2020 at 1:03 pm
@Lord Cornelius 11:34AM.
Yes, sir! 2:1 TD/INT ratio at a MINIMUM, that’s the ticket!
tickrdr
May 4th, 2020 at 1:06 pm
Our cornerbacks never got to pad their stats playing against Winston like 16 other teams did every year.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:08 pm
Posted previously, please ignore.
tickrdr Says:
January 10th, 2020 at 12:06 pm
50% of Bucs’ fans say turnovers don’t matter.
50% of Bucs’ fans think they do?
Since 2015, the Bucs have played 80 games, 16 per year.
They won the turnover battle some of the time and went 22 – 6.
They tied the turnover battle some of the time and went 4 – 7.
They lost the turnover battle the majority of the time (51%) and went 6 – 35.
tickrdr
AKA as “clueless fan”
BTW: For ALL of those games, they pretty much had the SAME defense, the SAME running game, the SAME kickers, the SAME plays, the SAME RJS, etc. etc.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:08 pm
Yes sum theys happy now….now I see that there were some other guys (QB’s) that had a multitude of turnovers in they’re first YEAR under BA…But Mr. 5,000 didn’t get to year two with BA ….so I guess his improvement will show up this season in that BLACK AND GOLD and since certain people think I traffic in racism, …full stop!!
May 4th, 2020 at 1:12 pm
He started his Buc NFL career with a pick 6 and ended it with a pick 6. What a career he had in Bucs !
May 4th, 2020 at 1:18 pm
Giants game TD drives: 75, 75, 80, 75 (4 drives over 75 yards)
Seattle game TD drives: 75, 60, 85, 75, 75 (4 drives over 75 yards)
Rams game TD drives: 50, 75, 75, 75 (3 drives over 75 yards)
NO game TD drives: 75, 75, 75, 91 (4 drives over 75 yards)
Arz game TD drives: 96, 75, 75 (3 drives over 75 yards)
Atl game allowed two 4th quarter drives to tie the game: 37 and 65
So we’re going to pretend that these ⬆️ didn’t happen?
May 4th, 2020 at 1:23 pm
So the offense didn’t complain about this trash but I guess that’s ok cause you like this guy right? What is disgusting is that this shows the players are buying into the crap their lying, backstabbing, two faced coach has been telling them.
Talk sh!t Devin, damn straight you sure showed the league how great you are vs David Blough, Gardner Minshew, Jacob Brissett.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:23 pm
Bucs defense 2019:
5th overall in total TAKEAWAYS, including scoring SIX defensive TDs, with 28 total.
Yet, they couldn’t overcome 41 total GIVEAWAYS by the offense, including SEVEN pick6’s for free touchdowns, not to mention numerous “short” fields.
( e.g. vs. Tenn where INTs returned to the 6 and 10 yard lines for eventual TDs.)
tickrdr
BTW#2:
Total giveaways:
Bucs 41
Panthers 35 (5-11)
Giants 33 (4-12)
Chargers 31 (5-11)
Bengals 30 (2-14)
Steelers 30 (8-8)
Browns 28 (6-10)
Dolphins 26 (5-11)
Falcons 25 (7-9)
Jets 25 (7-9)
Not ONE single winning record among them.
But you don’t think there could possibly be a correlation……….yeah, me neither.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:28 pm
Giants game TD drives: 75, 75, 80, 75 (4 drives over 75 yards)
Seattle game TD drives: 75, 60, 85, 75, 75 (4 drives over 75 yards)
Rams game TD drives: 50, 75, 75, 75 (3 drives over 75 yards)
NO game TD drives: 75, 75, 75, 91 (4 drives over 75 yards)
Arz game TD drives: 96, 75, 75 (3 drives over 75 yards)
Atl game allowed two 4th quarter drives to tie the game: 37 and 65
So what was the excuse in these⬆️ games?
May 4th, 2020 at 1:29 pm
Like I’ve been saying 100 years of football says turnovers matter.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:33 pm
You know what else matters TOP and points. So when your defense let’s teams go on 75+ yard drives all day it’s kinda hard to beat them but I know that’s ok cause the scapegoat doesn’t play defense.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:35 pm
18 TD drives allowed of 75 yards plus I’m just 5 games by one team and you people think the defense has the right to talk sh!t.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:39 pm
Ndog points do matter how about the hidden points???? 6 defensive tds negated how many points off turnovers by the offense??? 112??? 121????
May 4th, 2020 at 1:40 pm
You’re he doesn’t play defense ndog he plays offense for both teams!!!!!!
May 4th, 2020 at 1:40 pm
Right
May 4th, 2020 at 1:43 pm
I see completely pass over all of the FACTs on the 75+ yard drives and TOP don’t ya.
I got a news flash for you people, you use that points off of TO numbers when they aren’t all on one person. But that’s ok keep lying to make yourself feel better. When we are getting destroyed by the same guy you ran outta here then you will look even more CLUELESS than you do now.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:44 pm
I know how everyone in this country just loves data, the raw, scientific, and proven kind so I’ll keep it short.
50 years of NFL data show that when teams win the turnover battle, they win ~70% of their games
For a more “microscopic” approach, read tickrdr at 1:08 above.
I know, but the yards….
May 4th, 2020 at 1:44 pm
Exactly nothing about the crappy defense cause got nothing, but hate and a lack of football knowledge.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:46 pm
Ndog you know they have saints blogs??????
May 4th, 2020 at 1:50 pm
“I wonder if James complained about the Rams game or after the Saints game, or after the Giants game, or after the Seahawks game, or after the Cardinals game we’ll just ignore all those right and say those didn’t happen.”
I don’t know if he complained or not…the D didn’t complain about him during the season. And it wouldn’t effect his game anyway…after all..he was just ballin. And ask yourself, how many times did Jameis seem to ignore the end of the game situation? Maybe that is why he rarely pulled out a last minute win, or made that big first down that allowed us to run out a game and not require the D to come back on the field. He always was just ballin….heck with the game situation.
May 4th, 2020 at 1:57 pm
You people keep bringing up yards while just completely ignoring that we were number 3 in the NFL in scoring with basically no run game, crappy kicker and a starting RT who currently is not in the league.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:00 pm
I am not a Saints fan but I will be damned if I am going to let people bold face lie and trash a player when they are flat out wrong. F that you people are so fing stupid it makes me sick.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:01 pm
The sad part, is that the few that tried to “complain” were labeled as “cancers” and not allowed to have their say!!!!!!! Then were falsely reported that they were trying to ruin jw3 career!!!!!!!!! Its sad that the truth is slowly coming out, and that other truths have been covered up!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s time to herd the sheep, and put them back in the pen!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 4th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Geez, the rabid dog is so smitten with Blameless that he attacks our MLB! This is nuts. You are not a Bucs fan so stay off the site.
I can’t imagine all the times that D had to look at each other while strapping on the helmets after yet another JW turnover or 3&out. It had to be far more excruciating on the sidelines than it was from my living room… and it was really painful from my living room! They all say JW was a great guy… but at some point that winning smile and “we’ll clean it up next time” act (and we know it was an act by virtue of his last press conference) had to wear really thin.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:04 pm
No surprise to me that Both Luck and Carson Palmer also had 40 interceptions in the Bruce Arians Offense.
Babe Ruth had a lot of strikeouts, the year he hit 60 home Runs.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:31 pm
So NDog are we just going to ignore all the pick sixes and Interceptions thrown were this alleged absolute garbage defense had to defend from inside their own 30?
You are asking for a 85 monsters of the midway to be able to compensate for that.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:33 pm
Where do you guys get 40 ints by Luck and Palmer? Unless you are combining two players totals. Jameis almost did it in one.
Bruce Arians was Andrew Luck’s first offensive coordinator. In their only season together, Luck completed 54.4% of his passes for 4,374 yards with 23 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. Indianapolis advanced to the postseason with a 11-5 record after a season in which it went 2-14. The Colts lost their wild-card round matchup 24-9 to the Baltimore Ravens.
Palmer was brought in by Arians when the coach took over the Arizona Cardinals in 2013. The veteran quarterback had a rough first season, throwing 22 interceptions to go along with 24 touchdowns.
That is only forty when you add both players together. Jameis would have had 40 if the D hadn’t dropped them in one season.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:34 pm
Weatcap since when does telling the truth not make you a Bucs fan?
May 4th, 2020 at 2:37 pm
But at some point doesn’t the defense have to STOP DANIEL JONES, TEDDY BRIDGEWATER, OR ANY OTHER QB not named David Blough or Gardner Minshew?
No I guess not it’s been ok for them to suck cause it was all the QBs fault. Well I hope they are ready cause if they done win now I guarantee you they will get blamed cause we sure know the coach won’t take blame and it already appears our MLB won’t either. Way to a real leader their tough guy.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:52 pm
Ndog is still ignoring basic stats and holding everything to a double standard.
Terrific.
May 4th, 2020 at 3:27 pm
Ndog
Are you hourly or salary?
May 4th, 2020 at 3:27 pm
Where do you guys get 40 ints by Luck and Palmer? Unless you are combining two players totals. Jameis almost did it in one.
Bruce Arians was Andrew Luck’s first offensive coordinator. In their only season together, Luck completed 54.4% of his passes for 4,374 yards with 23 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. Indianapolis advanced to the postseason with a 11-5 record after a season in which it went 2-14. The Colts lost their wild-card round matchup 24-9 to the Baltimore Ravens.
Palmer was brought in by Arians when the coach took over the Arizona Cardinals in 2013. The veteran quarterback had a rough first season, throwing 22 interceptions to go along with 24 touchdowns.
That is only forty when you add both players together. Jameis would have had 40 if the D hadn’t dropped them in one season.
May 4th, 2020 at 3:29 pm
I think Warren Sapp said it best on Dan Patrick show. You can’t just blame Jameis for 7-9. He scored more than enough points to get more than 7 wins. The defense didn’t hold up their end of the bargain til the last month of the season. 3rd in pts scored despite the turnovers.
May 4th, 2020 at 3:48 pm
Go Bucs it’s a New Day!!!
May 4th, 2020 at 4:10 pm
Go Bucs…. in BA I trust !!
May 4th, 2020 at 4:36 pm
Ndog are you talkin crap about Devin White now. Your pathetic, too bad your not in front of our def line, it would be nice to see him squash you.
May 4th, 2020 at 5:10 pm
No it’s not White’s that he is getting a pass for having a HORRIBLE defense for most of the year it’s his lying, backstabbing, two faced head coaches fault. This is why this team has no accountability the defense can suck beyond belief and the captain can come out and say we didn’t complain.
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May 4th, 2020 at 6:12 pm
All I’m going to say if these comments were not taken out of context I have lost a lot of respect for this player. Jameis played here for 5 years and always took accountability and never threw another unit under the bus. That is what real leaders do and this franchise has done nothing but throw him under the bus since the last game ended. But what should we expect from a franchise that has a classless head coach. Of all the mistakes this franchise has made, and there have been plenty, hiring this two faced, primadonna to lead this franchise might go down as the worst.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:13 pm
I like 2 face coach that got rid of a turnover machine even Devin white knows Jamies sucks, I wonder how the defenders look at him in the lockerroom after all the suffering he makes them go through on the field with his turnovers.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:24 pm
If anyone even hints that Jameis Winston wasn’t the greatest QB and person (he is a documented predator) they have ever played with or known it makes them a bad person.
Truly is ironic.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:26 pm
Oh yeah that’s right I am not allowed to say things Joe doesn’t like that have court documentation and the FSU goon squad helping him out with.
ANYHOW
If anyone even hints that Jameis Winston wasn’t the greatest QB and person they have ever played with or known it makes them a bad person.
Truly is ironic.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:32 pm
Not a bad person just a bad teammate especially when the unit you were on has been trash for the last 10 years, including over half this season.
May 4th, 2020 at 7:11 pm
Ndog only cares cause he’s a race.ist black guy… That’s all!! Nothing else to it!! He knows Winston was horrible but he can’t allow his bias too not get the best of him
May 4th, 2020 at 7:14 pm
Btw pewter report had an excellent article on an ufa who may make an impact this year!! You know if anyone wants to read what real sports writers are writing these days!! They are really good! I like just about everything they put out!! … Sorry Joe just taking your suggestion to not read your articles!! 😁
May 4th, 2020 at 7:16 pm
And Winston been trash for 5years I don’t care about padded stats!!!
May 4th, 2020 at 7:17 pm
Yeah ndog wouldn’t wanna hold the black guy responsible for his actions right?? Just ignore all the praise they heaped on him all year right?… You’re so see through dude
May 4th, 2020 at 7:39 pm
Very mature young man. Future looks good for this defense.
May 4th, 2020 at 8:04 pm
You morons get dumber by the day, I’m white bro. I couldn’t give a crap about race, but you keep running that mouth like you have any idea what your talking about.
BTW I went and listened to the entire interview and he said he wasn’t excited that Brady was replacing Jameis, he was excited because Brady is his favorite player. He went out of his way to say he didn’t want Jameis gone but was happy that we got his favorite player. But of course it wouldn’t have fit the narrative to post that so of course it was left off.
May 4th, 2020 at 8:13 pm
When you know you have a defense that is a work in progress, one would think you should protect the football to help them out… especially if you are going to leave your own defense in short yardage situations.
May 4th, 2020 at 8:27 pm
Again ⬇️
18 TD drives allowed of 75 yards plus in just 5 games by this defense that “was put in a lot of bad positions”. They put the offense in plenty of bad positions as well.
May 4th, 2020 at 9:05 pm
So are we going to just completely ignore the turnovers inside our own 30 and Pick Sixes that shotgun blasted this team in the foot more then said 18 TD drives that Ndog keeps going on about?
May 4th, 2020 at 9:47 pm
Tampabuscsbro Says:
May 4th, 2020 at 9:05 pm
So are we going to just completely ignore the turnovers inside our own 30 and Pick Sixes that shotgun blasted this team in the foot more then said 18 TD drives that Ndog keeps going on about?
Yeah that’s ignored, bro that is mentioned about 20 times every article, what I provide is the other side. You know the part the Bucs don’t want anyone to know so they can scapegoat the he!! out of Jameis.
May 4th, 2020 at 9:56 pm
NDOG is speaking facts. Anytime the bucs got a lead. The defense ended giving up a long drive… Those DB’s need to chill with all the chit chat. No excuses now. Man up or Shut up. Crazy that over the last 6 years the bucs Defensive Backs talk more than other Defensive backfield in the league, but havent stopped anyone. BUCS DEFENSE IS ALLLLLLLL TALK.
May 5th, 2020 at 12:25 am
@Ndog – Funny — there are no articles about JW3 “I never complained” over last five years when Bucs offense led LATE in 4th Quarter only to have Bucs Mike Smith sieve Defense surrender stupid TD’s or field goal points late in games> that resulted in losses that were all on the defense. Fans have NEVER heard a “peep” from JW pointing fingers when there were no turnovers.
Interesting that we are hearing from “Bucs D” leaders saying they “never complained” about JW turnovers – the same “Bucs D” leaders who could not prevent a Seahawks rookie WR scoring copious TD’s like he was a seasoned veteran. The same “Bucs D” leaders who could not stop Daniel Jones, a Giants rookie QB, from passing a TD at critical time…And so on…. Oh – and no finger-pointing by JW.
At end of day, if Bucs were leading in 4th Q, and no turnovers by Offense, the D should shut opposing offense down and Bucs Win > right? That situation happened so many times in JW’s career as Bucs QB and ended in Bucs D surrendering points at end of games that resulted in losses. Not on offense or JW.
JW always took the high road in his post-game press conferences and never pointed his fingers at the D. I get that the Bucs D got frustrated in last 8 games…..but WOW – imagine JW frustration for last 72 games….
Tompa has benefit of an amazing D and Pro-Bowl WR’s/TE’s. And new RB’s….
Super Bowl or BUST! No EXCUSES….
May 5th, 2020 at 5:58 am
Having played the TEAM sport we all knew this is how the D felt about Jameis.. Glad to see White call him out while not being disrespectful…,
BYE JAMEIS…,,, ONLY N DOG will miss u…
May 5th, 2020 at 6:03 am
@ REDZONE-
Fair points on the overall D throughout his tenure… I do feel last yr they played better & it could be said that Jameis cost us more games than the D.. once the DB’s got some experience they were better… however you are not wrong w that take on Mike Smith & Lovie D’s…
May 5th, 2020 at 8:09 am
Its over. Its finally over! Its like waking up from a bad dream
May 5th, 2020 at 8:39 am
941 oh please 🙄 Jameis Winston is all talk and broken promises. You guys need to take your pity party somewhere else. It’s stale over we don’t care good riddance!!!!!
May 5th, 2020 at 10:01 am
Between what Joe wrote plus a few comments added, imo this is the post mortem on Winston
Herm Edwards nailed it. You’re paid to win the game. These numbers show where the blockage was. Woulda voulda shoulda will be and the rest can’t fix this. I hope jw can do it.
One thing I don’t like is some of the comments saying jameis was similar to Doug Williams. I don’t see that at all.
Doug was about winning. He used the defense to win, or Ricky bell, or Kevin house or Jimmy Giles. Sometimes he protected a weakness. Jw never had that type of sense imo. He couldn’t see what to do. If he would study Doug I think that’s his best path but what do I know, right?