Tom Brady, Jameis & Quarterback Gifts
May 4th, 2020
A new report on handouts by quarterbacks shines an interesting light on Bucs franchise quarterback Tom Brady and the current backup QB he replaced.
Joe has long praised Football Outsiders for its dogged work on stats they combine with an open-minded approach and more transparency than the PFF Tribe. That doesn’t mean Joe loves all their stats, only that Joe considers them better than their peers.
Today, Football Outsiders published its analysis of quarterback interceptions and near interceptions from the 2019 season.
The film work was done and revealed Brady had zero tipped balls that led to interceptions last year. In contrast, Jameis Winston had two tipped balls for picks (thanks, O.J.). Ryan Fitzpatrick, Baker Mayfield and Jimmy Garoppolo each had three to lead the NFL.
Joe almost fears for any non-Gronkowski Bucs pass-catcher that leads a football into the hands of the opposition this year.
Brady was middle of the pack with seven dropped interceptions last year (aka defensive gifts), per Football Outsiders. No surprise, Jameis led the NFL with 13.
Interestingly, the NFL’s best at protecting the football through air last season (adjusted interception rate) was Teddy Bridgewater. He attempted about 200 passes while Brady and Jameis were close to 600 each.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:03 pm
News flash everyone, yes you’re going to have more opportunities for interceptions with passes that are thrown more than two feet downfield, SHOCKER!!!!?
This is what happens when you play in a 1970’s offense!!
May 4th, 2020 at 2:06 pm
Uh-oh! MORE data to indicate a certain QB’s tendencies. It has to be fake!
Because…….
YARDS!
May 4th, 2020 at 2:11 pm
Lol…
May 4th, 2020 at 2:13 pm
Does the tipped passes only count when tipped by receivers, or does that include tips at the line of scrimmage by d-linemen? Just curious.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Imagine what last season would have looked like without Godwin and Evans making circus catches on all of those inaccurate passes.
It could have been a real blowout for Jameis, maybe twice as many dropped interceptions.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:16 pm
So… Brady throws about half as many “gifts” as Blameless. I thought we knew that already. And by “we” I mean those actual Bucs fans on this site.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:17 pm
ndog … joe should be paying you,,, for bringing people to his site so he can get more advertising over the controversial JW commentary….
May 4th, 2020 at 2:30 pm
Imagine if these bucs fans knew the amount of drops Jameis receivers throughout the years lol
May 4th, 2020 at 2:33 pm
Sooooooooooooooo
What you’re telling me is Brady adjusted interception is 13.
Jameis Winston’s is 40………………….HOW IS THAT ANYWHERE NEAR COMPARABLE.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:41 pm
Ndog 25 of Winston picks were intermediate lol
May 4th, 2020 at 2:44 pm
Good riddance to Jay-Miss. I’ll take the short, accurate passes that lead to wins over the longer passes that lead to multiple interceptions and the occasional highlight.
May 4th, 2020 at 2:56 pm
I remember an interview with Joe Montana many years ago..
The question asked of him was something like: so why do you contribute all you success to?
Montana himself said – I am not great with the deep passed… The coaches recognized that early in my career and instead of trying to improve on what I was weak at, they focused on short to intermediate passes and let the receivers make the plays,. Mentioned that often they practiced on a 50 yard field….
It worked out very well for him and that team for a decade..
May 4th, 2020 at 3:00 pm
Jamies gets confused and baited within the 10-15 yard range.
May 4th, 2020 at 3:04 pm
Youngbucs… that goes along with the large number of pick sixes. It is often the shorter pass interceptions that get returned for touchdowns…
May 4th, 2020 at 3:37 pm
Jaymiss 40 near interceptions. Ndog checking google to paste his fake stat here again.🍿
May 4th, 2020 at 3:44 pm
Timing, accuracy, hitting WRs in stride…..it all adds up to a more successful offense….
When you add the dropped passes by the DBs…..it looks much worse for JW….
We can debate it all we like but we simply didn’t win enough games….time to move on and we did.
May 4th, 2020 at 3:50 pm
That check down, dink and dunk passing attack they had in NE worked out pretty well, don’t you think? As opposed to the chuck it up and pray offense we have been running.
May 4th, 2020 at 4:13 pm
Teams have torched us with quick slant passes & checkdowns…..time for us to do the torching…..
May 4th, 2020 at 4:28 pm
Teams knew JW he was so predictable, defenses knew what he would do. Interceptions and fumbles with poor cognitive function were all simply easy to see. Any one would be a upgrade, we got the Goat now so relax go take your bitter arse somewhere and let the fans rejoice. amen
May 4th, 2020 at 4:29 pm
Ndog that above stamens the whole thing was for you
May 4th, 2020 at 4:45 pm
I’m glad the Bucs have Brady!
May 4th, 2020 at 4:50 pm
Me too.
May 4th, 2020 at 4:56 pm
We’ve the Goat now and anyone would’ve been an upgrade for Bucs
May 4th, 2020 at 5:05 pm
The worst QB in Bucs’ history will likely never see the field again. He’s playing for the Saints because he was so super cheap and HC Cheater Payton wants BA’s to playbook, which America’s First Round Disaster probably has a copy of. At least it will change with TB at the helm. Joe evaluates Jameis on his good stats and disregards his bad ones, his worst being the number of losses he racked up, which is the only stats that count. Yes they’re team stats but no one was better at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory than Jameis, not even the Buc’s excuses for kickers. Jameis’ career is one big excuse for poor play and poor performance. Now the 12’ year old, stuck in a Man’s body is in Fat City, The Big Sleazy, The City Care Forgot and you think he won’t have off field issues. This Clown is one mistake away from a 1 year ban, and being face down in puke and feces at 4 am with a tranny on Bourbon St. Done and Done.
May 4th, 2020 at 5:24 pm
I just watched Brady’s highlights from 2019, they weren’t all short passes, that’s for sure. Take a look on YouTube.
May 4th, 2020 at 5:28 pm
Tampabaybucsfan- Your wisdom knows no bounds! I swear you’re in my head.
To this day, I cannot, for the life of me, understand why we do not utilize the short game more. Maybe the previous QB couldn’t throw them effectively or didn’t see them? I don’t know.
Imagine Mike and Chris, big-bodied WRs catching slants in stride. Picture Gronk, OJ, or Brate.
Imagine screen passes to RBs and TEs! Checkdowns to open RBs! Oh the humanity!
This is OUR year! Bank it.
May 4th, 2020 at 5:31 pm
Did Football Outsiders also determine the QB who threw the most interceptions because of poor route-running? We know old #3 would lead that stat too because, as we all know, our players run the worst routes of anyone in the league…over & over & over!? SMH.
Also, what constitutes an opponent drop? A ball he gets a hand on, two hands on, hits him in the chest? Because old #3 sure seemed to have more dropped INTs than what’s listed above. I clearly remember two drops in the 49ers’ game (where he threw 3 with 2 pick 6s) off the top of my head.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:11 pm
This guy tossed two pick 6s in the first 2 minutes of the game against the Texans. The second was nullified because of penalty but the int stood that’s unreal.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:30 pm
I come here just to revel in the pain of the JW lovers. Some date magically will appear when they’ll “be right” about whatever the hell it
Is they think we’re missing out on. Meanwhile I’m gonna enjoy these two seasons. Or more. You don’t decide when the GOAT leaves, he does.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:32 pm
Well said BBB. Meanwhile with those horrible route runners we have to endure the Mr 5000 BS. How does one get to 5k with poor route runners?
Maybe the all knowing N O S B O S can enlighten us.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:39 pm
There was a time when all I heard was “Fitzmagic will soon be Fitztragic.” Then he has a sht game and he’s gotta be benched. No excuses were made. No blame on the wide receivers. No Oline blame.
Then you get a seasons worth of that BS from JW and the blame game immediately starts. Hell, it’s never ending. Hope JW has a great career. If not, no sweat of my sack. There’s a bunch of guys who this game chews up and spits out. And they come in all shades, believe it or not.
May 4th, 2020 at 6:40 pm
Jameis consistently misread underneath linebackers. Probably felt comfortable going outside
May 4th, 2020 at 6:46 pm
Could it be because Jay Miss stares down his receivers and can’t read defenses?
May 4th, 2020 at 7:42 pm
Craig Says:
May 4th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Imagine what last season would have looked like without Godwin and Evans making circus catches on all of those inaccurate passes.
How can you just come on here and flat out lie? You disgust me.
May 4th, 2020 at 7:48 pm
I sick of this inaccurate pass BS because how is it inaccurate when the receiver comes down with the catch ….a great catch is made (that’s why their paid the big bucks) why can’t it be a great pass dropped in the bucket…pit where only the receiver has a chance to catch it….let me tell you people something when it works it’s all good when it doesn’t…it’s just a part of the game!!you can’t bash any QB who is told to get it downfield and when he does it it’s inaccurate..HOW? GTFOH with that BS…either it was a complete pass..bad pass (over or under thrown) which falls into that inaccurate lane!!! 5,000 yards passing with an above average completion percentage does not equal to just throwing up inaccurate passes …it says Great Pass Catchers and Mr.5,000 check’n the sheets and BALL’N!!! Let us see what Goat The Great White Hope brings to town. I’m here …and I ain’t scared of no clap back!! All up in yo grill with mines …anybody not taking a nap !!
May 4th, 2020 at 8:00 pm
I love this place. 😎
May 4th, 2020 at 8:06 pm
News flash: Jw is gone, get used to it, he is getting paid less than a nobody like Brett Hundley, and it may be questionable if he is even worth that much. We have the universally acknowledged GOAT, even though he is in his final days and may not play another down in the National Covid League, so… Jaboo Who?
May 4th, 2020 at 8:15 pm
Jameis should have stuck to baseball. He’d hold the record for most walks, strikeouts, most homeruns and most hit batters by a relief pitcher.
May 4th, 2020 at 8:21 pm
The Mr Pick-6 lovers long for the day, any day that they’ll be able to say, “I told you so!”, no matter how insignificant. Good luck holding out for you meaningless little victories you might receive. I am glad Mr Pick-6 is gone. I’d been ok for him as a $7 million backup to hopefully learn something but that didn’t happen. I have no concerns at all of Mr Pick-6 haunting us. None. Will he ever quarterback a team that beats us? Maybe, but it won’t be often. Go Bucs! Go current Bucs!
May 4th, 2020 at 8:25 pm
Ndog Says:
May 4th, 2020 at 7:42 pm
Craig Says:
May 4th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Imagine what last season would have looked like without Godwin and Evans making circus catches on all of those inaccurate passes.
How can you just come on here and flat out lie? You disgust me.
Great comeback and analysis! Thanks Ndog… (sarcasm)
May 4th, 2020 at 8:28 pm
BigMacAttack,
Your comment about the tranny had me rolling!
May 4th, 2020 at 8:59 pm
Read JW donated 30K to Tampa restaurants. Classy move.
May 4th, 2020 at 9:23 pm
NDOG
😂 LOL
WOW! Just stop dude.
Winston has more turnovers than any quarterback since he’s entered the league… By far!
I don’t give a crap that he’s throwing down field, that’s his fault. The coaches and the offense calls for him to check down more, that’s why he’s gone. He would not do it.
Bruce Arians said as much.
The guy would not check down. Instead he would panic and throw it where it doesn’t belong.
Everyone understands this offense is a little more downhill.
Everyone understands sometimes there’s tipped balls
And sometimes a receiver runs the wrong route.
But when you were lapping the field in turnovers over the course of your career, give it up.
NO MORE EXCUSES
Maybe riding the bench for a year and watching Brees checkdown o stead of throwing a pick will get they his head.
Doubt it though ….
The elephant in the room no one ever seems to talk about is—
The dude is not very accurate. Rarely have you ever seen him just hitting a receiver in stride so they can keep running and make a move
May 4th, 2020 at 9:31 pm
“You can’t go broke putting money in the bank”. I’ve heard it 50 times, Jameis probably heard it 500 times. I wonder if Google explains the phrase?
May 4th, 2020 at 10:03 pm
Nah David you don’t get it do you.
It’s always someone elses fault on this backstabbing team. The team is bad and everyone on this team uses Jameis Winston as their scape goat from Bruce Arians to Shaq to Devin White to Mike Evans.
All of them are overrated bad players Winston never did anything wrong he is just the unluckiest QB to literally ever live.
May 4th, 2020 at 10:38 pm
Answer this if Jameis is so bad then why in the only season we had a running game he made the probowl (I know alternative but still). Then the only times he had a decent defense for any stretch of games we won multiple games in a row (2016 and this year)? So when we had what any good teams had we won games what else do you want?
May 4th, 2020 at 11:03 pm
Ndog every QB is going to be good if you have a 1500 yard running back two pro bowl wide receivers and a top ten defense. That’s the point you can’t have all that and a qb on a 30 million dollar contract he has to elevate the team. He doesn’t. Answer this what would you say are record would have been last year if Tom Brady was our quarterback. I would say at worse 10-6
May 4th, 2020 at 11:10 pm
Ndog, you know the best thing about capitalism? Supply and demand. Every item in the economy gravitates to its own reasonably fair price based on its characteristics and quality. The NFL has determined that Brett Hundley > Jameis Winston. JW is a Ferrari that is a magnificent, perfectly tuned performance machine, but half the time you take it out for a spin, it throws a con rod. So if you want to get to work and back you’re far better off driving anything else… even if it’s an old (Jeep) Patriot…
May 4th, 2020 at 11:37 pm
I agree with @Ndog. Tompa Brady has the total package needed for the Bucs TEAM to finally have a chance to compete across the board > D, Oline, RB. WR’s have been there. Kicker has his year of yips behind him. So Super Bowl or BUST!
No excuses – Every team is dealing COVID issues. Bucs have the GOAT = Super Bowl or BUST
May 5th, 2020 at 4:52 am
“Bucs franchise quarterback Tom Brady and the current backup QB he replaced.”
Very interesting change in lexicon. Like it. And how about that salary of the Winston gentleman. Getting what is due. Karma can be rough.
May 5th, 2020 at 5:46 am
Ndog-
Sp that’s really 43 picks.. only Kyle Petty thinks that’s cool..
You know nothing about football surprised you enjoy watching something that seems to escape your ability to grasp it… Good luck man..,
May 5th, 2020 at 5:52 am
& NDog
Pleases don’t ever say someone made the probowl when Jameis was really the 2nd Alternate. So not only was he NOT SELECTED but some other guy turned down an invite so Jameis could go..
ONLY YOU!!’ Would reference that as a success and tout it.., real men would be embarrassed about that & wouldn’t share it amongst there peers…
NO PLAYER IS BRAGGING ABOUT BEING A 2nd alternate… YOU TRULY are CLUELESS
May 5th, 2020 at 6:12 am
This whole argument is like saying you wouldn’t want Kobe on your basketball team because he won multiple titles with the Lakers- you want to stick with the guy your team drafted because maybe one day he will lead your team to the title.
Just dumb.
May 5th, 2020 at 7:16 am
Jamie’s Winston thru first 5 years in the league:
GP: 72
1563/2548 61.3%
19,737 yds
121 TDs
88 INTs
169 Sacks
Peyton Manning thru first 5 years in the league:
GP: 80
1749/2817 62.1%
20618 yds
138 TDs
100 INTs
108 Sacks
So to summarize he is second in the history of the NFL thru his first 5 years in yardage (above Dan Marino). Has 19 less TDS and 14 less interceptions along with 60 more sacks.
May 5th, 2020 at 8:33 am
😂😂😂
May 5th, 2020 at 8:40 am
Youngbucs Brady don’t even throw the ball that far down field the hold first half of the game .
May 5th, 2020 at 8:44 am
Pewter you can show facts and these people will make a excuse for Payton but for Jamies it’s because he sucks . Lol lol
May 5th, 2020 at 8:51 am
I really dont care about anyone’s opinion of Winston… but you guys gotta stop with these Peyton Manning comps. Seriously, lol.
The difference between Peyton and Jameis that people apparently dont realize or choose to ignore is that the Colts were successful in those 5 seasons. Three 10+ win seasons which means 3 playoff appearances in Mannings first 5 years.
Winning trumps all. If Jameis throws 30 picks but the Bucs make the playoffs he is still the Bucs QB in 2020.
May 5th, 2020 at 8:53 am
Knuckle sandwich Your comment is dumb because this ain’t boxing . Football and basketball or team sports . Brady has always had a good defense and a running game . The bucs has neither so why do yall keep saying 6 rings ? He was carried by Sonny Mitchell and his defense and the last playoff run . And what happened last year when teams knew that they couldn’t run the ball he looked bad . So now that he’s here it’s no excuses superbowl or bust ……
May 5th, 2020 at 9:41 am
Oneil & Pewter you are Right!!
The FACTS SAY Peyton Manning was never a back up QB much less a 3rd string QB… who may make 1 million.. your statistical comparison are useless..
JW is not a gonna get a gold jacket maybe a Members Only for Jameis..he is the only 30 INT 7 pick 6 guy so it’s fitting the ONLY MEMBER..
As Joeyppems said.. W’s is what counts & Peyton won as he mentioned
May 5th, 2020 at 10:27 am
Noles so maybe race plays apart of it because they gave Payton a chance to get better right ???
May 5th, 2020 at 10:37 am
Noles now go back and compare the teams Payton played on versus Jamies teams and then you will see why Payton teams won . Wins and loses is a team stat not quarterback stat . A lot of yall are national media sheeps so I understand why you feel that way . Football is a team sport Payton never played linebacker , Conerback , defensive line or safety or runningback or offensive line or wr or special teams . You need all of these things to win one game . Go learn about the game first then post your comments and don’t feel bad because a lot of people on this site knows nothing about football they are national media sheeps .
May 5th, 2020 at 11:01 am
@Oneilbucs
You can make any excuse you want about why the Colts won with Peyton early on. You can make any excuse you want about why the Bucs didnt win with Jameis. It doesnt matter about it being a team stat. It doesnt matter who get credit for the W.
Winning allows you to overlook the negatives. If Jameis threw 30 picks but the Bucs went 12-4, nobody is talking about the 30 picks the way they are now. Perfect example is the 2017 Jags. That dominant defense carried them to the AFC championship game… nobody was talking then about how bad Bortles was because it didnt matter because they were winning.
When you lose, you put a microscope on what went wrong. You focus on the negatives to improve them. And even people that stan Jameis cant argue that his turnovers were the biggest negative for the team in 2019.
Success allows you to ignore the negatives. I dont remember people complaining about the turnovers after the 2016 season even though they were still there. Why? The team went 9-7 and flirted with the playoffs. They had success.
If the team was good enough in 2019 to overckme the turnovers and win anyway, nobody would be talking about them.
And you can go ahead and leave race out of it. Peyton was given a “2nd chance” because they went 13-3 in his sophmore year. 3 playoff appearances in his first 5 seasons. The team was successful with him at QB.
May 5th, 2020 at 11:17 am
Oneilbucs we don’t care you can go back to rooting for the Texans.
May 5th, 2020 at 10:12 pm
youngbucs I’ve never been a Texans fan . I’ve been a bucs fan since 1995 . I’m born and raised in Texas and still live in Houston . I guess I was raised different from a lot of Tampa fans . I will never be happy with other teams scraps . I believe in building our own team it’s not about Jamies . It’s about holding our organization accountable for not being able to sign the right coaching staff and letting good players walk . And never being able to develop a quarterback it can’t be every quarterback that comes to Tampa all of sudden they ain’t good no more when they come to Tampa . And I will say it again . If the bucs bring in another old quarterback to be able starter with out a rookie to develop than yall can have this losing fan base and organization . Because they are playing yall just to sale tickets . I won’t let them play me .